<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:rawvoice="http://www.rawvoice.com/rawvoiceRssModule/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Good of the Game? Nonsense. NFL Owners Gambled on Usual Hard Line Negotiating Style Working and Lost</title> <atom:link href="http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/</link> <description>Sports, Media, Entertainment</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 04:16:06 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: QueeferSutherland</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-2/#comment-1775378</link> <dc:creator>QueeferSutherland</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:42:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775378</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;his nonsense that the league caved is not accurate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Are the real officials back at work before the owners wanted them to be? Yes? Then they caved.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>his nonsense that the league caved is not accurate.</p></blockquote><p>Are the real officials back at work before the owners wanted them to be? Yes? Then they caved.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nada</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-2/#comment-1775335</link> <dc:creator>Nada</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:24:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775335</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;‘Rush’ Episode aired in 1999.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;X-Files&lt;/em&gt; was really a documentary smuggled to us by patriots from the future./ Conspiracy theory&#039;d]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>‘Rush’ Episode aired in 1999.</p></blockquote><p><em>X-Files</em> was really a documentary smuggled to us by patriots from the future.</p><p>/ Conspiracy theory&#8217;d</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nada</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775332</link> <dc:creator>Nada</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:22:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775332</guid> <description><![CDATA[Is that a grown-up Jimmy Neutron in the pic?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that a grown-up Jimmy Neutron in the pic?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: pigskin28</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775318</link> <dc:creator>pigskin28</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:13:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775318</guid> <description><![CDATA[This just seems another garbage bash the League post. This nonsense that the league caved is not accurate. Not according to what am reading is the outcome. It was never about the upfront moneys, but the pension and accountability. And it seems the league will have their way.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just seems another garbage bash the League post. This nonsense that the league caved is not accurate. Not according to what am reading is the outcome. It was never about the upfront moneys, but the pension and accountability. And it seems the league will have their way.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: illformula</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775291</link> <dc:creator>illformula</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:43:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775291</guid> <description><![CDATA[the NFLPA should take notes from the officials b/c the got hosed during their CBA negotiations.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the NFLPA should take notes from the officials b/c the got hosed during their CBA negotiations.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jthussler</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775289</link> <dc:creator>jthussler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:41:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775289</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Lol. I don’t know whether to be flattered, or creeped out, by “jthussler” not only following but apparently bookmarking a tweet of mine from 4 weeks ago, considering I don’t really have any idea who he is (at least not by his current name).&lt;/blockquote&gt;RT&#039;d into my feed this week. Take it however you want it I couldn&#039;t care less.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Lol. I don’t know whether to be flattered, or creeped out, by “jthussler” not only following but apparently bookmarking a tweet of mine from 4 weeks ago, considering I don’t really have any idea who he is (at least not by his current name).</p></blockquote><p>RT&#8217;d into my feed this week. Take it however you want it I couldn&#8217;t care less.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sousedbergin</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775286</link> <dc:creator>sousedbergin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:39:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775286</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Again, comparing it to smoking, nobody has sympathy for a person my age who gets lung cancer, we knew the risks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;From a litigation stand point (way out my depth) as an employer required to provide work place safety standards using best practices you cannot employ people in a smoking environment. Argue that the NFL was ignoring head trauma for years* and is performing a &#039;make-up call&#039; with rule changes presently after years of unsafe workplace standards. From a legal standpoint it&#039;s on the NFL but of course from a personal standpoint the onus is on the individual ultimately.* X-files last night when the teenagers become super fast for standing in a cave Scully made a comment on unbelievable head trauma seen in tests that could only be associated with someone elderly or a 15 year pro-football career. &#039;Rush&#039; Episode aired in 1999.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Again, comparing it to smoking, nobody has sympathy for a person my age who gets lung cancer, we knew the risks.</p></blockquote><p>From a litigation stand point (way out my depth) as an employer required to provide work place safety standards using best practices you cannot employ people in a smoking environment. Argue that the NFL was ignoring head trauma for years* and is performing a &#8216;make-up call&#8217; with rule changes presently after years of unsafe workplace standards. From a legal standpoint it&#8217;s on the NFL but of course from a personal standpoint the onus is on the individual ultimately.</p><p>* X-files last night when the teenagers become super fast for standing in a cave Scully made a comment on unbelievable head trauma seen in tests that could only be associated with someone elderly or a 15 year pro-football career. &#8216;Rush&#8217; Episode aired in 1999.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: starkweather</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775284</link> <dc:creator>starkweather</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:38:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775284</guid> <description><![CDATA[Miggie&#039;s reply on that tweet made me laugh. Now that everybody&#039;s pretty much done with this thread and nobody&#039;s here to answer, doesn&#039;t it make a difference for the refs that their union ranks are loaded down with lawyers? That probably helps them when it&#039;s time to bargain. But I actually agree with Mike that it&#039;s a long-term win for the owners, anyway. They didn&#039;t give the refs everything they wanted]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miggie&#8217;s reply on that tweet made me laugh. Now that everybody&#8217;s pretty much done with this thread and nobody&#8217;s here to answer, doesn&#8217;t it make a difference for the refs that their union ranks are loaded down with lawyers? That probably helps them when it&#8217;s time to bargain. But I actually agree with Mike that it&#8217;s a long-term win for the owners, anyway. They didn&#8217;t give the refs everything they wanted</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MaddMatt</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775283</link> <dc:creator>MaddMatt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:38:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775283</guid> <description><![CDATA[did they lose money? If not, they didn&#039;t lose.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did they lose money? If not, they didn&#8217;t lose.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Milk Steak To Go</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775281</link> <dc:creator>Milk Steak To Go</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:36:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775281</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;[T]he small distance between winning and lose &lt;strong&gt;(and job security) &lt;/strong&gt;can understandably push people to test the limits and is part of the reason we love football so much.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Bolded is key for players.  Because of the salary structure (non-guaranteed contracts) players are encouraged to hide injuries, including concussions, because they won&#039;t get paid.  Maybe they make it through that year, but the team threaten to cut the player, leading to a re-negotiation or the player is cut.So there&#039;s a tension between player safety and player job security.  In other words, why would I report an injury when I know doing so may cost me money?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>[T]he small distance between winning and lose <strong>(and job security) </strong>can understandably push people to test the limits and is part of the reason we love football so much.</p></blockquote><p>Bolded is key for players.  Because of the salary structure (non-guaranteed contracts) players are encouraged to hide injuries, including concussions, because they won&#8217;t get paid.  Maybe they make it through that year, but the team threaten to cut the player, leading to a re-negotiation or the player is cut.</p><p>So there&#8217;s a tension between player safety and player job security.  In other words, why would I report an injury when I know doing so may cost me money?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: somewhereoverthedwaynebowe</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775277</link> <dc:creator>somewhereoverthedwaynebowe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:32:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775277</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt; I don’t know whether to be flattered, or creeped out, by “jthussler” not only following but apparently bookmarking a tweet of mine from 4 weeks ago, considering I don’t really have any idea who he is (at least not by his current name).&lt;/em&gt;It&#039;s really not that hard to scroll down a couple pages.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> I don’t know whether to be flattered, or creeped out, by “jthussler” not only following but apparently bookmarking a tweet of mine from 4 weeks ago, considering I don’t really have any idea who he is (at least not by his current name).</em></p><p>It&#8217;s really not that hard to scroll down a couple pages.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tim Ryan</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775275</link> <dc:creator>Tim Ryan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:32:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775275</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Lol. I don’t know whether to be flattered, or creeped out, by “jthussler” not only following but apparently bookmarking a tweet of mine from 4 weeks ago, considering I don’t really have any idea who he is (at least not by his current name).&lt;/blockquote&gt;It appears he had that one in the holster all week, waiting to fire.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Lol. I don’t know whether to be flattered, or creeped out, by “jthussler” not only following but apparently bookmarking a tweet of mine from 4 weeks ago, considering I don’t really have any idea who he is (at least not by his current name).</p></blockquote><p>It appears he had that one in the holster all week, waiting to fire.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mr. C</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775273</link> <dc:creator>Mr. C</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:30:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775273</guid> <description><![CDATA[Kid&#039;s got great hair in that pic.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kid&#8217;s got great hair in that pic.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike NYC</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775272</link> <dc:creator>Mike NYC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:30:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775272</guid> <description><![CDATA[Lol. I don&#039;t know whether to be flattered, or creeped out, by &quot;jthussler&quot; not only following but apparently bookmarking a tweet of mine from 4 weeks ago, considering I don&#039;t really have any idea who he is (at least not by his current name).]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol. I don&#8217;t know whether to be flattered, or creeped out, by &#8220;jthussler&#8221; not only following but apparently bookmarking a tweet of mine from 4 weeks ago, considering I don&#8217;t really have any idea who he is (at least not by his current name).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: geoffreyvs hired a PR firm to get his son's coach fired; now I'm running for Senate!</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775271</link> <dc:creator>geoffreyvs hired a PR firm to get his son's coach fired; now I'm running for Senate!</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:29:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775271</guid> <description><![CDATA[Liskodamus]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liskodamus</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775270</link> <dc:creator>Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:29:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775270</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t totally buy this point of the argument, but the idea is that competent officials are able to maintain order in a game and prevent the physicality from going from “hard-nosed football” to “dirty and cheap.” There is no doubt the replacement failed miserably at this.Of course, the blame lies in many and players and coaches, who perpetuated it. However, the small distance between winning and lose (and job security) can understandably push people to test the limits and is part of the reason we love football so much. So I can understand why it happens.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Guess that&#039;s fair. Can see where&#039;s there&#039;s blame with the league, but we should keep this in mind when this crop of players doesn&#039;t live past fifty. Again, comparing it to smoking, nobody has sympathy for a person my age who gets lung cancer, we knew the risks.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t totally buy this point of the argument, but the idea is that competent officials are able to maintain order in a game and prevent the physicality from going from “hard-nosed football” to “dirty and cheap.” There is no doubt the replacement failed miserably at this.</p><p>Of course, the blame lies in many and players and coaches, who perpetuated it. However, the small distance between winning and lose (and job security) can understandably push people to test the limits and is part of the reason we love football so much. So I can understand why it happens.</p></blockquote><p>Guess that&#8217;s fair. Can see where&#8217;s there&#8217;s blame with the league, but we should keep this in mind when this crop of players doesn&#8217;t live past fifty. Again, comparing it to smoking, nobody has sympathy for a person my age who gets lung cancer, we knew the risks.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TimmyTheEnchanter</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775269</link> <dc:creator>TimmyTheEnchanter</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:28:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775269</guid> <description><![CDATA[Ohhellyeah, for a guy who typically has an opinion that favors the owners, are you calling them dumb for settling this? You think they should have just kept the lockout forever since demand is inelastic?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohhellyeah, for a guy who typically has an opinion that favors the owners, are you calling them dumb for settling this? You think they should have just kept the lockout forever since demand is inelastic?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tim Ryan</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775268</link> <dc:creator>Tim Ryan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:27:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775268</guid> <description><![CDATA[@ohheelyeah: No one is saying that. The NFL is far too strong a product to truly suffer from this. As Kramer would say, that&#039;s cooky talk.BUT, they handled this stretch of hell like their PR staff was headed by Snooki and a box of edible thongs.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ohheelyeah: No one is saying that. The NFL is far too strong a product to truly suffer from this. As Kramer would say, that&#8217;s cooky talk.</p><p>BUT, they handled this stretch of hell like their PR staff was headed by Snooki and a box of edible thongs.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Faulkner</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775267</link> <dc:creator>Faulkner</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:27:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775267</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Lotta people saying this, but I bet the NFL suffers ZERO fallout from this. For every fan they lose, I bet another one starts following. I doubt anyone but the owners lose a dime in revenue other than what they lost in paying the regular refs. This does nothing to change the inelastic demand of the NFL. The machine wont be stopped, and it certainly wont lose money or fans from this.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Exact same argument was used to say that the owners and Goodell wouldn&#039;t budge one inch in negotiations.  It was wrong then, and it&#039;s wrong now.  Labor unrest always has a negative impact, even if it&#039;s not reflected immediately on the P&amp;L.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Lotta people saying this, but I bet the NFL suffers ZERO fallout from this. For every fan they lose, I bet another one starts following. I doubt anyone but the owners lose a dime in revenue other than what they lost in paying the regular refs. This does nothing to change the inelastic demand of the NFL. The machine wont be stopped, and it certainly wont lose money or fans from this.</p></blockquote><p>Exact same argument was used to say that the owners and Goodell wouldn&#8217;t budge one inch in negotiations.  It was wrong then, and it&#8217;s wrong now.  Labor unrest always has a negative impact, even if it&#8217;s not reflected immediately on the P&amp;L.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jthussler</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/27/good-of-the-game-nonsense-nfl-owners-gambled-on-usual-hard-line-negotiating-style-working-and-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1775266</link> <dc:creator>jthussler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:26:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=210761#comment-1775266</guid> <description><![CDATA[https://twitter.com/MikeNYC24/status/240943933469908994]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://twitter.com/MikeNYC24/status/240943933469908994" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/MikeNYC24/status/240943933469908994</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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