Peyton Manning’s Arm Strength Downfield an Issue? He’s Thrown Three Interceptions on Nine Deep Throws This Year
Peyton Manning got off to a great start in Pittsburgh, taking advantage of the absence of James Harrison and Ryan Clark, and leading some clinical drives. He also only threw two passes that are classified as deep by the official NFL play by play. He got into a rhythm throwing the shorter routes, and the touchdown pass to Demaryius Thomas that went for a big play was behind the line of scrimmage.
With Atlanta having some injuries in the secondary, the Broncos appeared to come out with a game plan to attack the Falcons with deeper seam passes after having not thrown downfield the week before. All three were intercepted. Those interceptions came on similar routes against different defensive coverages. They did not look like sharp passes, and on at least one, he was fooled by the outside corner. Then again, we’ve seen similar “all-verticals” throws from Manning where the outside corner tried to get to that position and could not.
After that, Manning and Denver changed again, and for most of the rest of the first half, he again worked the shorter passes. The next pass downfield was the 17 yard touchdown pass to Thomas along the sideline at the end of the first half that wasn’t exactly a tight hard spiral, but Thomas made a great toe tap catch. Here’s Manning’s breakdown for the year through two games.
SHORT THROWS: 39 of 54 (72.2%), 423 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INT
DEEP THROWS: 4 of 9 (44.4%), 71 yards, 1 TD, 3 INTs*
*I’ll note that Paul Pabst says Manning is 0 for 5 on throws of more than 20 yards this year, with the three interceptions. Play-by-play records can be inconsistent but usually treat 15+ yards in air as deep throws, so it’s possible that all four completions came just short of 20 yards.
Manning has said that he’s not back yet, and it’s a work in progress. Elway, earlier this week, said his arm strength is “probably not where he wants it to be. I don’t know if it’ll ever be where he wants it to be, but to me, it’s plenty adequate right now.”
Plenty adequate turned into a potential problem on the deep seam routes that he likes to hit as a counter to the crosses and curls (Chris Brown of Smart Football detailed the various Manning pass concepts). We’ll see if those were just some interceptions that will balance out, or if teams will notice that Manning has thrown only 14% of his throws deep and not with as much success, and adjust.
To put that in some perspective, Manning’s last five years featured the following deep throw percentages: 21.0%, 20.3%, 19.6%, 21.3%, 21.8%. Using Advanced NFL Stats percentages, the only quarterbacks with a lower deep throw percentage last year than Manning’s current one were Colt McCoy, Josh Freeman, and Dan Orlovsky.
It’s early, and these things tend to balance out, though like I said, it looked like Denver wanted to come out and attack a certain way, and that was changed by the early interceptions. If he can’t hit that route, it will have an effect. Manning is still a maestro, but the cat-and-mouse game becomes a little tougher until he gets the rust–or the lingering weakness-shaken off.
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24 Responses to “Peyton Manning’s Arm Strength Downfield an Issue? He’s Thrown Three Interceptions on Nine Deep Throws This Year”
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September 18th, 2012 at 10:23 AM
He hummed all three of those. All three would’ve still been INT’s 5 years ago.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:24 AM
I feel like, at times, Peyton throws interceptions out of spite.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:24 AM
The new noodle ball.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:26 AM
I feel like last night was his attempt to outdo Eli, just didnt come together at the end.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Lisk – Did you watch Revolution last night?
September 18th, 2012 at 10:27 AM
As little mention as possible of that atrocity should be made in public.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:29 AM
I don’t know about arm strength being an issue. Those looked like bad reads that Aaron Rodgers couldn’t have fired in there for a completion, either.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:30 AM
The 2nd INT was a horrible, Joey Harrington-esque decision. Not much to do with arm strength there.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Chad Johnson on his way to Philly? Is this a work out or a signing?
September 18th, 2012 at 10:30 AM
As little mention as possible of that atrocity should be made in public. Nada
I didn’t know if it was a requirement made by the EIC of his employees.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
I said this exact thing to the wife last night after his 3rd INT in the 1st Q.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:36 AM
Hummed? I’d say floated. arm didn’t look strong enough to make deep throws in the first half.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:37 AM
i don’t recall Peyton’s arm strength ever being one of his, um, strengths.
he’s always thrown a terrible looking, extremely accurate ball, IMO.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Do. Not. Want.
/Iggles fan
September 18th, 2012 at 10:40 AM
First pick was an under-throw, if you put that 10 yards down the field would have been a huge game. That’s the scariest part for Peyton fans, he made the right read just couldn’t execute.
/Pours one out for Peyton’s giant passing cone
//With that rusting neck he’s playing with blinders on
September 18th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
I don’t doubt Manning’s arm strength isn’t back all the way. As such, he needs to adjust his thought process. Those first two picks were really bad decisions. If that were Vick throwing those balls (whose arm strength is never in question), he’d be getting skewered on talk radio for bad decisions; not arm strength.
They have got to be planning contingencies for game plans and such, because you can bet teams are going to notice now.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:48 AM
I don’t even bother killing Vick for bonehead interceptions anymore. He obviously can’t help it. I don’t want to beat a dead dog.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
The third one was thrown just fine. The DB just made a great play.
September 18th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Okay, the first one was floated, the second one was a flat out bad decision, and the third one was rifled high, but I think arm strength was at the very most a secondary factor in all 3 being picked.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:04 AM
All three of them were about his lack of arm strength. The third one was high because he overthrew it mechanically. Even the TD he threw was a duck.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:16 AM
They showed his arm strength “mph” graphic during the Steelers game. He only was like 2 or 3 mph lower than when he was healthy. I don’t think its much of an issue. The first pick was floated because he was trying a touch pass not because he just didn’t have the arm strength. Just because it is a down-field ball doesn’t mean you have to rifle it.
September 18th, 2012 at 11:20 AM
That’s what I thought. Mechanically, at times it looked like he was still adjusting to not being able to make the same throws he used be able to make, or at least not being able to make those throws the same way. I’d expect him to figure it out though. Soon.
September 18th, 2012 at 1:25 PM
Let’s not pretend Peyton Manning never threw interceptions or wobbly ducks before his injury. As for all these arm chair QB mechanic experts, I’m not sure yet if we should say Manning looks any different now just because for the first time we are actively looking for chinks in the armor. Maybe he will have ongoing lingering effects from his neck surgeries, maybe he’ll be just fine. We need more than one poor quarter to make that call though. I thought his picks were more a brain problem than an arm problem, but I’m also being an arm chair expert.
September 18th, 2012 at 4:56 PM
He’s still smart as hell, but he’s now got a noodle arm to go with his noodle head. Peyton will never lead another team to the playoffs.