<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:rawvoice="http://www.rawvoice.com/rawvoiceRssModule/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Marty Schottenheimer Will Never Be in the Hall of Fame, Tom Coughlin Will, Because of Fumbles and Fate</title> <atom:link href="http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/</link> <description>Sports, Media, Entertainment</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 13:50:08 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah!</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757586</link> <dc:creator>Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah!</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 12:49:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757586</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Stayed around? Marty didnt limp along with the same franchise chocking up wins. Dude went to bad team after bad team and turned them into winners. Last place to #1 seeds. Then he leaves and those teams went back to being losers. Great coach.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Coughlin took an expansion team to the Conference Championship game in his second season.  He left an expansion team with a winning record.  He brought discipline to an undisciplined Giants team with a rookie QB, and made them 2 time (and counting) Super Bowl Champs. Add to that, he personally made Tiki Barber a back who now has consideration for the Hall.  If you want to state the merits of Marty being in the Hall, that&#039;s fine.  But there&#039;s no need to diminish Coughlin&#039;s achievements in order to build up the minimal achievements of Marty.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Stayed around? Marty didnt limp along with the same franchise chocking up wins. Dude went to bad team after bad team and turned them into winners. Last place to #1 seeds. Then he leaves and those teams went back to being losers. Great coach.</p></blockquote><p>Coughlin took an expansion team to the Conference Championship game in his second season.  He left an expansion team with a winning record.  He brought discipline to an undisciplined Giants team with a rookie QB, and made them 2 time (and counting) Super Bowl Champs. Add to that, he personally made Tiki Barber a back who now has consideration for the Hall.  If you want to state the merits of Marty being in the Hall, that&#8217;s fine.  But there&#8217;s no need to diminish Coughlin&#8217;s achievements in order to build up the minimal achievements of Marty.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Liquor</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757408</link> <dc:creator>Liquor</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:31:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757408</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Marty stayed around long enough to accumulate some numbers&lt;/blockquote&gt; Stayed around?  Marty didnt limp along with the same franchise chocking up wins.  Dude went to bad team after bad team and turned them into winners.  Last place to #1 seeds.  Then he leaves and those teams went back to being losers.  Great coach.WWW - we will win]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Marty stayed around long enough to accumulate some numbers</p></blockquote><p>Stayed around?  Marty didnt limp along with the same franchise chocking up wins.  Dude went to bad team after bad team and turned them into winners.  Last place to #1 seeds.  Then he leaves and those teams went back to being losers.  Great coach.</p><p>WWW &#8211; we will win</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Some Random Old Dude</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757358</link> <dc:creator>Some Random Old Dude</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:01:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757358</guid> <description><![CDATA[&quot;There&#039;s a gleam, men...&quot;I miss Marty.  Would take him over Norval &lt;em&gt;raght naaaow&lt;/em&gt;.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s a gleam, men&#8230;&#8221;</p><p>I miss Marty.  Would take him over Norval <em>raght naaaow</em>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: VladimirCrouton</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757336</link> <dc:creator>VladimirCrouton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:49:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757336</guid> <description><![CDATA[MMJoin the party pal/in that other thread //die hard]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MM</p><p>Join the party pal</p><p>/in that other thread<br /> //die hard</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Monster is Meth</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757328</link> <dc:creator>Monster is Meth</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:38:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757328</guid> <description><![CDATA[Pretty good, Nada. Since I worked the holiday I only have a 4 day week this week. Gotta take the small victories when you get them, ya know? A drive through the desert and Utah huh? Haven&#039;t been out that way since I was a kid, so don&#039;t remember too clearly but it sounds like that&#039;d be a relaxing, borderline mind-numbingly boring, drive. Enlighten me.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty good, Nada. Since I worked the holiday I only have a 4 day week this week. Gotta take the small victories when you get them, ya know? A drive through the desert and Utah huh? Haven&#8217;t been out that way since I was a kid, so don&#8217;t remember too clearly but it sounds like that&#8217;d be a relaxing, borderline mind-numbingly boring, drive. Enlighten me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nada</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757320</link> <dc:creator>Nada</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:31:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757320</guid> <description><![CDATA[Meth, how&#039;s it going? I&#039;m in San Fran right now. Drove through the Utah and Nevada deserts the last coupla days. Whoa.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meth, how&#8217;s it going? I&#8217;m in San Fran right now. Drove through the Utah and Nevada deserts the last coupla days. Whoa.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Monster is Meth</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757318</link> <dc:creator>Monster is Meth</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:29:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757318</guid> <description><![CDATA[Or fun.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or fun.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Monster is Meth</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757314</link> <dc:creator>Monster is Meth</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:25:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757314</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Have some popcorn.&lt;/em&gt;No Youtube videos at work. Or popcorn.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Have some popcorn.</em></p><p>No Youtube videos at work. Or popcorn.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nada</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757311</link> <dc:creator>Nada</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:22:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757311</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;“What are you looking at? You’re laborers – you should be laboring. That’s what you get for not having an education!”&lt;/blockquote&gt;Have some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG3g8Saea5E&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;popcorn&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“What are you looking at? You’re laborers – you should be laboring. That’s what you get for not having an education!”</p></blockquote><p>Have some <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG3g8Saea5E" rel="nofollow">popcorn</a>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nada</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757308</link> <dc:creator>Nada</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:20:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757308</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Marty Schottenheimer Will Never Be in the Hall of Fame&lt;/blockquote&gt;Wrong, just wrong. He will eventually.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Marty Schottenheimer Will Never Be in the Hall of Fame</p></blockquote><p>Wrong, just wrong. He will eventually.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: VladimirCrouton</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757299</link> <dc:creator>VladimirCrouton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:11:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757299</guid> <description><![CDATA[Why can&#039;t everyone just stay in one thread dammit. It was sickening seeing ESPN talk about Art Modell glowingly today. Fuck that guy. The Silverdome was garbage. And is Boise St. still joining the Big East?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t everyone just stay in one thread dammit. It was sickening seeing ESPN talk about Art Modell glowingly today. Fuck that guy. The Silverdome was garbage. And is Boise St. still joining the Big East?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah!</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757296</link> <dc:creator>Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah!</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:05:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757296</guid> <description><![CDATA[It also cracks me up how stats guys ridicule &quot;the eye test&quot; and play up the notion of luck.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also cracks me up how stats guys ridicule &#8220;the eye test&#8221; and play up the notion of luck.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: scripty</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757294</link> <dc:creator>scripty</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:04:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757294</guid> <description><![CDATA[Pontiac Silverdome had no a.c.  I was there for the World Cup games in 94 in the upper deck.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pontiac Silverdome had no a.c.  I was there for the World Cup games in 94 in the upper deck.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah!</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757293</link> <dc:creator>Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah!</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:03:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757293</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Marty was way better than both Coughlin and Cowher, both of whom likely make it in.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Way better at what?  Marty stayed around long enough to accumulate some numbers, so what?  His defenses were predictable and he couldn&#039;t develop an offensive philosophy to save his life.  Great regular season coach.  If Mike Smith stays around long enough, he&#039;ll get those wins too.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Marty was way better than both Coughlin and Cowher, both of whom likely make it in.</p></blockquote><p>Way better at what?  Marty stayed around long enough to accumulate some numbers, so what?  His defenses were predictable and he couldn&#8217;t develop an offensive philosophy to save his life.  Great regular season coach.  If Mike Smith stays around long enough, he&#8217;ll get those wins too.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Walking Underwear</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757289</link> <dc:creator>Walking Underwear</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 00:54:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757289</guid> <description><![CDATA[A.p. is it true the carrier dome has no ac? How embarrasing for an hvac company and syracuse. I heard it was like 110 in there for nw game]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A.p. is it true the carrier dome has no ac? How embarrasing for an hvac company and syracuse. I heard it was like 110 in there for nw game</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Walking Underwear</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757287</link> <dc:creator>Walking Underwear</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 00:48:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757287</guid> <description><![CDATA[Billick made the radio rounds today...had nothing but great things to say bout modell]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billick made the radio rounds today&#8230;had nothing but great things to say bout modell</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: scripty</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757284</link> <dc:creator>scripty</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 00:39:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757284</guid> <description><![CDATA[Art Modell fired Paul Brown, fired Bill Belicheck - two of the best coaches in history.  He also de facto fired Marty.  3 of the top 10 coaches in wins.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Modell fired Paul Brown, fired Bill Belicheck &#8211; two of the best coaches in history.  He also de facto fired Marty.  3 of the top 10 coaches in wins.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: scripty</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757277</link> <dc:creator>scripty</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 23:59:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757277</guid> <description><![CDATA[Cowher&#039;s got some bad playoff losses too.  Probably b/c he&#039;s from the Marty coaching tree.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cowher&#8217;s got some bad playoff losses too.  Probably b/c he&#8217;s from the Marty coaching tree.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Liquor</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757268</link> <dc:creator>Liquor</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 23:40:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757268</guid> <description><![CDATA[Marty was way better than both Coughlin and Cowher, both of whom likely make it in.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty was way better than both Coughlin and Cowher, both of whom likely make it in.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Monster is Meth</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/06/marty-schottenheimer-will-never-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-tom-coughlin-will-because-of-fumbles-and-fate/comment-page-1/#comment-1757261</link> <dc:creator>Monster is Meth</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 23:22:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=198018#comment-1757261</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;“What are you looking at? You’re laborers – you should be laboring. That’s what you get for not having an education!”&lt;/em&gt;Is that a line from that movie? If so, and there&#039;s more like it, I may have to see that.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“What are you looking at? You’re laborers – you should be laboring. That’s what you get for not having an education!”</em></p><p>Is that a line from that movie? If so, and there&#8217;s more like it, I may have to see that.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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