Paul Ryan’s Dogs Are Named “Boomer” and “Sooner” Despite Growing Up & Living in Wisconsin
Paul Ryan is from Wisconsin and attended college at Miami University (Ohio). Somehow, he met and married an native Oklahoman tax attorney who attended Wellesley College in Massachusetts. The couple married in Oklahoma on December 2 – the same day that OU took on Kansas State in the 2000 Big 12 championship game. Ryan’s younger brother, Tobin, recently told to the delegates from Oklahoma about the wedding at the Republican National Convention. From the Oklahoman:
He said the couple’s December 2000 wedding date coincided with the Big 12 Championship; he also said it was the Sooners against the Cowboys, which, as many Oklahomans know, wasn’t correct, or even possible. It was the Sooners against Kansas State. But, then, Tobin Ryan is a Notre Dame graduate.
See, he didn’t go to a college with a real football program. So in this case when a Ryan tells a story that isn’t completely truthful, it’s understandable. Moving on…
At the reception, which was held at the Petroleum Club in downtown Oklahoma City, there was “the normal reception in the wedding hall and then you’ve got a room that’s almost equally as big next to it with a big-screen TV, and you’ve got toasts going on here and you had to just drag people to come out from the TV (room)” from which loud roars would periodically erupt, Ryan told the delegates.
Somehow, despite the fact that Paul Ryan is a Wisconsin native who attended a university in Ohio and planned a wedding on the day of the Big 12 championship, Ryan decided to name his dogs “Boomer” and “Sooner.” Typical politician. Although… the fact that someone who grew up in B1G country named his dogs after Big 12 football shows a willingness to reach across the aisle for compromise. Right? Either that, or we’ve got another flip-flopper on our hands! Can you really vote for a candidate who roots for college football teams out both sides of his mouth?

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August 30th, 2012 at 9:54 AM
No love for Wisconsin. Otherwise, he’d name his dogs “clogged arteries” and “constantly drunk”
August 30th, 2012 at 10:01 AM
See, he didn’t go to a college with a real football program.
I presume he researched his position on rape-generated pregnancies by talking to fellow Miami student Grey Peen.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:02 AM
Were “Boomer” and “Sooner” conceived on a dog rape stand?
August 30th, 2012 at 10:03 AM
If startles me that this man has procreated and will shape and mold other human beings.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:05 AM
Hahaha. gotta love people who judge the quality of food by the size of the portions!
August 30th, 2012 at 10:06 AM
They were originally named “Ayn” and “Rand” until he realized that wasn’t as popular as first believed
August 30th, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Surprised the dogs aren’t named “Goldman” and “Sachs.”
Sounds like any South Louisiana wedding during college football season. If you’re gonna get married on a Saturday, you’re competing against LSU for an audience.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:09 AM
We would have also accepted “John” and “Galt” here.
“John” and “Galt”.
/my first boss gave me that book
//it was unreadable crap
August 30th, 2012 at 10:10 AM
Nice. My brother-in-law’s family had two goats when he was a kid named “Fancy” and “Pants. And then Fancy died so they just had a goat named Pants for like 10 years.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:10 AM
I know someone whose engagement broke off because his bride-to-be scheduled their honeymoon cruise the same weekend LSU had a home game. The groom told her to have a good time while he was at the game.
That was the last straw, after she’d already agreed to paint the house purple and gold.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:12 AM
So that’s why Romney chose him…he’s a Sports Bigamist!
August 30th, 2012 at 10:13 AM
Perhaps I’m missing something here. His wife is from a long line of prominent Oklahomans. This doesn’t seem odd to me at all.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:13 AM
That was the last straw, after she’d already agreed to paint the house purple and gold
You had me until this line
August 30th, 2012 at 10:14 AM
You ever just look at someone and know that you’d have nothing in common with them and probably just want to punch them in the face during every interaction? After viewing the picture in this post, I’m confident my assumption about this guy is correct.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:14 AM
I bet he didn’t even go to LSU.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:15 AM
It’s not like he named the dog after himself.
/BO’d
August 30th, 2012 at 10:16 AM
I’m married to a WI girl. Let’s just say she’s less-than-enthusiastic about him representing her state in a national election.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Man next thing he’ll claim to be both a Blackhawks and Red Wings fan.
Also, Jamie Lannister clearly fathered at least one of those children.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:17 AM
You get one room. After that, you’re a weirdo.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:17 AM
(Heres a picture of some Oklahoma poon to stop all your damn thinking)
August 30th, 2012 at 10:18 AM
Well that moves him from unlikeable to pure evil.
Wellesley and Miami U, ugg, douchebags.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:19 AM
obligatory
i mean, i dont wanna be one of those retards that said they’d leave the country if GWB was re-elected, but romney/ryan stirs those types of feelings up in me. obama blows, but good god…those two are PURE FUCKING EVIL.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:20 AM
/agrees with Spence
//goes home to take a shower
August 30th, 2012 at 10:21 AM
CRM has kids?
August 30th, 2012 at 10:22 AM
i read it out of curiosity around the last election since it kept coming up. it was an easy read, didn’t agree with the messaging, but i was at least curious about where it went. read 1000 of the pages, then got to the 66 page essay at the end and nearly burned the book. I’ve never once had any desire to burn a book until then, if i were rich, i would make it my life’s mission to not only have a new pair of socks every day, but i’d put those socks on and then burn another copy of Atlas Shrugged.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:23 AM
And my wife mistakenly got a graduate degree from Ohio State, a stain forever on my families name. That doesnt mean that I allow any acknowledgement of that junior college shithole in my house.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:24 AM
shithole, shithole…oh you mean the orifice on teenaged boys that sandusky repeatedly penetrated on penn state’s campus. got it.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:24 AM
Goddamn, I hate politics and politicians.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:24 AM
Enlighten me how they are evil.
/not trying to start a lively debate, er, yelling match
//genuinely curious
///make it short and sweet
////apologies to all in advance
August 30th, 2012 at 10:25 AM
That’s good internettin’
August 30th, 2012 at 10:25 AM
They’re obscenely wealthy politicians. End of discussion.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Should have named the dogs Lombardi and Lambeau.
/Belt
August 30th, 2012 at 10:27 AM
Rooting for Oklahoma, duh.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:27 AM
Dorsey I and Dorsey II
/Put Levens in Canton
August 30th, 2012 at 10:29 AM
I for one look forward to the Paul Ryan reality show.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:29 AM
paul ryan attacked obama for…
-a GM plant closing under GWB’s admin
-TARP, additions to medicare, tax cuts and both wars creating this deficit that ryan voted for
-demanding institutional discrimination against homosexuals
-taxing the poor more
…and im not going to get into their chameleon-like public personas or romney’s disgusting professional record. i mean, shit man…WE BUILT IT? romney’s idea of building something is investing 5%, taking out a loan for the rest, saddling that company with debt and consulting fees and reaping the profits…THAT’S WHAT WE WANT IN A PRESIDENT!?!?!?!?
August 30th, 2012 at 10:29 AM
I’m certain the person that edited “Atlas Shrugged” is in the same family blood line as the person who edits Peter King’s MMQB.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:30 AM
The FoxNews link CJ put at the start of the RoundUp is pretty damning. He basically is using “fiscal responsibility” as a buzz word to try to let greedy rich people keep more of their money. The Republican Party is basically greedy rich people using the Christian values guise to convince poor people to help them get richer. It’s disgusting.
And in the interest of full disclosure, I’m a NH Republican, and absolutely hate that I’ve had to become a Democrat just to maintain any self-respect.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:30 AM
I love politics, but I am just counting down the days until this election is over. I am so tired of both sides and how fake and out of touch with actual Americans.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:31 AM
Sounds like he’s got a lot of practice being President already, he’d fit in great.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:31 AM
That’s just piss poor, lazy punditry right there. Call someone evil and try to end the debate. Don’t forget they use racist code words too like “welfare” and “work”.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:31 AM
god damnit, he’s reagan.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
…and im not going to get into their chameleon-like public personas
to be fair, obama is night and day from when he ran in 08.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Were “Boomer” and “Sooner” conceived on a dog means of conception stand?
/correct’d
//evil cunts
August 30th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
i outlined it in comment 36.
that’s some piss poor, lazy punditry reading on your part.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
A negro faggot killed Jimmy Chitwood’s parents and it’s been all downhill from there.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Worse are the people who can’t see that, and believe the stuff they (both sides) say.
Every time the clip of Desmond Howard vs. the Patriots gets played in my household I inch closer to a divorce.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:33 AM
also, chitwood…click the fucking link first. explains a decent portion of my stance on them both today. good god, i’m the lazy one?
August 30th, 2012 at 10:34 AM
You are correct, sir.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:34 AM
That’s about as close to fact as opinion can get.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:34 AM
I am imposing a Facebook moratorium until after the election.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:34 AM
We need someone from Real Street.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:34 AM
Serious question for the Republicans here. Do you honestly think Romney will win? I am not trying to be arrogant or mean with this question, it’s just something I have wondered.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:35 AM
Tonights special guest speaker is Hologram Reagan. I am super excited for that.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:35 AM
Can we throw him in a lake and see if he can swim?
August 30th, 2012 at 10:35 AM
/Salem
August 30th, 2012 at 10:35 AM
/ Throws nuts at nut
That’s how we feed gay animals in the terrorist zoo.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:36 AM
I am so tired of both sides and how fake and out of touch with actual Americans.
i watched for a few minutes last night, and thought the same thing. when people are cheering for dems or repubs, i dont get it. its not like they are going to really do shit for us anyways. they just get up there and blab.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:36 AM
yes, and i’m sure people who think Atlas Shrugged is well written probably think the Twilight series was on to something with the subtext that women shouldn’t be educated, should give up everything for a man, and the first time you have sex a malevolent life force will grow within you and kill you during the birthing process, unless you’re turned into a sparkling vampire.
/overheard far too many discusions of this at work.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:37 AM
I’ve been trained not to listen to most of what they say. I’m depressed about voting. I’m proud I have the right and will always do it, but just like the last election I didn’t enjoy who I was voting for. Why can’t there just be a knight on a white horse save everything and win 98% of the vote.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:37 AM
No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public, as the pundit said.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:37 AM
@sallykohn
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August 30th, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Sexy grandMILF Helen Mirren as Ayn Rand >>> actual Ayn Rand
August 30th, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Based solely on the polls, I’d give the edge to Obama right now. Romney will basically have to make a clean sweep of the toss-up states.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:40 AM
They know he’s not winning. They don’t even like him. They’re just a rudderless ship. They want to rid Washington of insiders, yet get excited about the selection of a Washington insider as Vice President. Dumb.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
I feel like I’m watching a modern “Triumph of the Will” or caricatured music video when I watch a politician speak in front of thousands of cheering maniacs, such as last night. That guy is up there lying. Straight lying to your fucking face. And you’re in the crowd waving signs and flags, and you’re clapping and waving and crying and high-fiving. It’s just fucking disgusting.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Another question. If the Republicans went full-on after the moderate vote, softened on some hard-right stances, would they win because they draw the undecided/moderate vote in the swing states? Or would they lose because the hard-core Republicans wouldn’t have high enough turn-out in those states.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
that’s a huge hurdle to clear and it will take a perfect storm in his favor to do that.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Best comment yet.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Honestly, I want Obama to lose more than I want Romney to win. That dude’s been an absolute disaster, and it’s not conceivable that anyone could be worse.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Being at the Obama inauguration was one of the most amazing and disappointing events in my life. Made me realize how much people really don’t have a clue about politicians.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:43 AM
If that’s what you’re subjected to, you should get dispensation for drinking at your desk.
Helen Mirren breasts are two of my very favorite things about England.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:44 AM
the base will always turn out for either side when push comes to shove. it makes no sense for either party to become extreme in comparison to the last Republican to actually get lifetime dems to vote for him.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:44 AM
yes, obama’s been horrible, but how much of that can be attributed to GOP stonewalling of anything he tries to do?
and you can’t imagine anyone worse? well romney’s one of the guys that got our country into this fucking economic morass, so tell me how that’s an improvement…
addition by subtraction doesn’t work when the person filling that abyss prefers division by multiplication.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
The rhetoric coming out of the RNC is reminiscent of the rhetoric coming out of the DNC in 2004 when Kerry ran.
In other words, I think they know their candidate blows, so let’s just see how much shit we can throw at the wall and see what will stick.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
I think they are afraid to do that. Hell if one guy should and could have done it, it would have been McCain four years ago. Instead he did the exact opposite and that worked out well.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
This pissed me off. I was really thinking about voting for McCain till he picked his running mate.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
/looks at bait
//thinks about it
///swims away
August 30th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Another question. If the Republicans went full-on after the moderate vote, softened on some hard-right stances, would they win because they draw the undecided/moderate vote in the swing states?
Here is a funny thought. If Romney had kept his stance on the social issues he had when he was Gov of Mass, but yet somehow made it out of the Republican primary, he could win. The problem is that the Republican party Brass are run by the Evangelicals that they lose out on the rest.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Holy shit I was just about to type that after hitting refresh.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:47 AM
I can conceive of worse.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:48 AM
They don’t make their money being moderate.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:49 AM
Deep down I wanted to give Romney the benefit of the doubt and think he was playing the game, and if elected, he’d be like he was in MA, but I just am not willing to risk that. Especially since I’m so far removed from MA right now I couldn’t say how well his policies there have worked.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:49 AM
do you think you are an expert on every single topic?
I need to go buy some bread. Please tell me what brand I should buy
August 30th, 2012 at 10:50 AM
So could Chuck and Sally Heath
August 30th, 2012 at 10:51 AM
Iron Kids.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:51 AM
no…i have a strong opinion on things i give a shit about, this being one of them. i don’t talk basketball, baseball or anything else i don’t know shit about so fuck off.
and you should buy ezekiel cinnamon raisin bread.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
i’d be more likely to vote republican if they said “you know what, freedom means you live your life as you want it, you make decisions on your faith not mine, no more laws for the masses based on the faith of some. and everyone deserves to make decisions about their own health regardless of gender.”
August 30th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Sunbeam
August 30th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Go the tortilla route
August 30th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Whitewheat
August 30th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
McCain did the same thing. Reagan (that cunt) would be ostracised as a RINO from the GOP as an example of how far right the party has moved. ‘Obamacare’ came from a conservative think tank and they deride it as Marxist. Party which pandered to anti-tax, Rand, religious fundamentalists for years now has to answer to them making the GOP unelectable.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Yeah, Spencer. This is a forum for confirmed experts of specific topics only. Ignore the button that says “Submit Comment”, it actually is supposed to say “ONLY SUBMIT AN OPINION IF YOU ARE A RENOWNED EXPERT”
/since when does anyone here know shit about anything? that’s why we are here instead of on our own TV shows
August 30th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
spencer, you and I will always hate each other’s college football teams, but you’re a good dude
August 30th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
It’s already evident that Obama is terrified to draw attention to his abysmal record, therefore he will (and is) demonizing the other guy. I understand that tactic, given the alternative.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
That actually sounds really good.
/scribbles bread idea in my notebook.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
/high five
August 30th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
Forgive me if I’m way off, but isn’t that not far from Ron Paul?
August 30th, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Mexican bread is the best bread.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:55 AM
couldnt you say the EXACT SAME THING about romney’s campaign?
the one bit of rhetoric i love is that “obama’s never ran anything.” well…technically, not true. he’s run the country the past four years…
August 30th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Nevermind, I was thinking of something he had said which sounded like that, but he’s a little too Christian to really believe that.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Ryan sounded great last night. Very poised. Very confident. Too bad he lied several times in his speech. I’d like him more if he just stuck to the facts.
Boomer and Sooner
August 30th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Comments 89-91 posted at the exact same time, with the exact same line quoted, yet three different bread types.
/sign of the Apocalypse
August 30th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
how has Romney been demonized?
August 30th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
I would vote for Ron Paul if that speech ended there. Unfortunately Pauls ‘crazy smart’ ideas come with a good scoop of crazy.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Bimbo
August 30th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Spencer, what kind of bread should I buy?
August 30th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
i think we really need todd charske’s opinion on this whole politics thing.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Though I would like to hear some opinions here about Ron Paul, because I know little about him, but there has been more than once I heard something he said that I liked.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
I think they have to drop that narrative since Paul Ryan is a career politician who likes to think he’s not a career politician
August 30th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb60nFeJsNc
August 30th, 2012 at 11:00 AM
Can’t wait to go to the Bama/Michigan game and stand on the Bama sideline
August 30th, 2012 at 11:00 AM
He makes for a good soundbyte but then you dig into his political philosophy and there’s a stench…this is also what I think about Gary Johnson
August 30th, 2012 at 11:00 AM
Has anyone said that this election cycle? Not saying they haven’t, I just haven’t seen it. I know that he’s definitely run something…he’s run this country straight into the ground!
/HIGH FIVE!
He’s been called a racist and it’s been said that he wants old people to die…and he’s been called evil by posters here, if that counts.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Romney hast been “demonized”, its called showing why I think I’m a better candidate than the person running against me.
/happens every four years
August 30th, 2012 at 11:02 AM
challah…or maybe a brioche.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:03 AM
Lot of ontological wording bullshit here.
Allow me to demonstrate:
It’s already evident that Obama is terrified to draw attention to his abysmal record, therefore he will (and is) demonizing the other guy. I understand that tactic, given the alternative
I can literally read you talking yourself into your own arguments.
Idea: I think Obama is gay
Written: Already Evident to everyone that Obama is gay.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:03 AM
August 30th, 2012 at 11:04 AM
In other words, what every GOP candidate has done since 1988.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:04 AM
someone said it last night…for some reason i wanna say it was rick santorum, but that just doesn’t seem right.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:05 AM
probably a lot of it…from day one the republican leaderships goal was to make obama a one term president. When you have leadership declaring that stance, how would they possibly work together to fix anything? It has been 4 years or gridlock solely because one side is flat out refusing to do anything positive because god forbid it could help the president’s re-election odds. Its pathetic.
Say Romney wins, don’t you think the dems will do the same thing? sure they will, which means another worthless congress while everyone else suffers
August 30th, 2012 at 11:05 AM
“Well how would he know? President Obama has never run a company. He hasn’t even run a garage sale or seen the inside of a lemonade stand,”
-Reince Priebus last night
August 30th, 2012 at 11:05 AM
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…democracy simply doesn’t work
August 30th, 2012 at 11:05 AM
oh, you’re making shit up, or stretching the truth a wee bit to fit your narrative. But after your boy’s performance last night, I see that’s a play right out of the Young Republican Handbook. You want to see true demonization of a person, go to a Tea Party rally.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:06 AM
Uh … yeah. Just this week, in fact.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:06 AM
have you read the reasons we’re calling him evil? im spelling out my thesis fairly clearly here…feel free to debate any of those talking points.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:06 AM
Question for the Obama supporters – do you want him to win based on what he’s already done, what he’s capable of doing if given the right cooperation, or because he’s better than the alternative?
August 30th, 2012 at 11:07 AM
Oh sure, now you are making up quotes and attributing them to ridiculous obviously fake names.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:08 AM
Earnestly all of the above despite being too far right wing.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:08 AM
the two biggest instances of stonewalling in the last 20 years are Clinton’s second term with the impeachment nonsense, and Obama’s first term.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others!
August 30th, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Also have $275 dollars wagered that he will win.
/Whiskey dollars
August 30th, 2012 at 11:10 AM
a) DEF NOT based on what he’s done…i don’t want him going drone crazy over medical marijuana dispensaries.
b) yes to what he COULD do if he had a cooperative legislature
c) ABSOLUTELY he’s better alternative to romney
if the GOP had a legit, quality candidate, id vote for him in a heartbeat. the obama administration hasn’t been good for the country at all so far, not denying that…how much of that is his fault is a debate for another day.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:10 AM
This is in stark contrast to the Democratic leadership under Bush’s presidency who did everything they could to make sure he was re-elected.(???)
Explain how there was gridlock the first two years of Obama’s presidency when Democrats had complete control of the legislative and executive branches.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:11 AM
I’m not even an Obama supporter, I was for Hillary in 2008 and veered closest to Paul this time around. But I will vote for R-Money the day the mercury in Hades hits absolute zero.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:11 AM
It wouldn’t happen because the Dems are not as hardcore to their party as the Repubs are. You have the Blue-dog dems who tend to cater to their conservative peeps and so they will go across on those issues. Repubs tend to stick together much more than Dems do.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:13 AM
They had control, barely, with a bare minimum. “Complete control”? Nonsense. GOP had enough numbers in both houses to block things through procedural moves, fillibusters, etc.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:13 AM
Explain how there was gridlock the first two years of Obama’s presidency when Democrats had complete control of the legislative and executive branches.
Check your facts dude. It was less than 9 months and you know that NOTHING happens when a president is first elected. So cut that down to 3 months. There were 3 months before he lost the majority.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:14 AM
Is the new stance of Democrats that they will not vote for rich guys?
August 30th, 2012 at 11:15 AM
both sides are assholes that don’t give a shit about any of us.
VIOLENT REVOLUTION!!!
August 30th, 2012 at 11:15 AM
What politician isnt rich?
August 30th, 2012 at 11:16 AM
This is bad
August 30th, 2012 at 11:16 AM
Except maybe that guy who was in charge from 2001 through 2009.
/ Used to think Carter was the worst modern president; not anymore
August 30th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
It could be bloodless since every 2 years we can wipe out Congress and a third of the Senate but alas…just keep pushing the red lever and hope a food pellet comes out
August 30th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
was it woodrow wilson who was given a ford because he couldnt afford his own car?
August 30th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
/pours one out for Olympia Snowe
August 30th, 2012 at 11:19 AM
They both suck.
/fin
August 30th, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Russ Feingold wasn’t wealthy compared to other prominent Senators…so of course Ron Johnson outspent him severely and claimed an embarrassing victory
August 30th, 2012 at 11:20 AM
I asked the question about rich politicians because I’m seeing a lot of statements slamming Romney based on the fact that he’s (gasp!) rich.
Note I didn’t say that’s the ONLY reason folks don’t like him (so please, no crying) but it seems to be a consistent theme.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Local elections don’t move the needle.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Except maybe that guy who was in charge from 2001 through 2009.
using obama supporter logic, bush inherited the financial mess since clinton passed the bill to allow every living thing on earth to get a mortgage and allowed I banks and C banks to merge.
he is on his own for the rest of his mess. though.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
it’s not that he’s rich, it’s how he GOT rich…inheritance and gutting companies with his private equity firm’s salacious practices. that’s what’s unsettling.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
All of the above. Healthcare reform. Increased funding for education. The recovery act, stabilized the economy and unemployment rate, which could have easily been at a much higher number than it is currently. What he could have done? Just look at some of the things such as light rail that were chopped out of the budget in order to appease stonewalling Republicans. What he can do? Republicans are desperately scared of a second term Obama for this very reason.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
Let’s do this:
2 pro choice women supreme court
Pulled out of Iraq
Ended DOMA
U.S. Auto Industry Bailed out saved the industry
Passed Health Care Reform (already ended pre-existing conditions bullshit)
Passed Wall Street Reform (should have gone further)
Stimulus Bill prevented depression
Removed Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program
Boosted Fuel Efficiency Standards (this is huge)
Credit Card Reforms (can’t raise rates without notice)
Stronger Pay Equality Laws
On pace to reduce defense spending $450 billion
Regulated shitty for-profit colleges
Increase funding for Broadband Coverage
Eliminated restrictions on Stem Cell Research
Not bad for a 2 year window.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
I dough not know who I am going to vote for or what this country really kneads. I would like a candidate that would go against the grain, but neither candidate this year gets a rise out of me. I guess I am going to have to millet over but no need for all of us to get rye’ld up at each other.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
I had a longer comment that was eaten by the website but in essence;
yes they did but it doesn’t make it ok to continue to do it. You would think the leaders of our 2 major political parties would decide that country is more important that party politics but…
August 30th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Which is amusingly sad since your city alderman has more of an effect on your everyday life than the POTUS (and I’m no better, have an idea of what the name of mine is but can’t recall)…our system of government was set up so the president didn’t have supreme power yet the electorate seems to think he does
August 30th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Passed Wall Street Reform (should have gone further)
this was absolutely toothless as shit and should be a mark against him.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
155 for the win. Awesome.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
My sources (the internet) report that Democrats controlled Congress from 2007-2010.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
i just hope NASA isn’t fucked more than it’s already getting fucked…
August 30th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
haha.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
inheritance and gutting companies with his private equity firm’s salacious practices. that’s what’s unsettling
I understand this is pretty crappy, but should it matter in my voting for him based on how he would run the country? I understand we have to factor in values and all with choosing a candidate but if this is the main deterrent in voting for him maybe I’m not seeing the hate
August 30th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
I do blame Obama for this; he worried too much about bipartisanship and compromise.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
I won’t vilify the rich, especially those who earned their way to the top. But someone like Romney is filthy rich – one of the types who don’t understand what you and I go through every day. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and placed in golden diapers. What we’re doing right now – sitting on computers at a desk job, going to the office cafeteria to buy a slice of pizza and a Coke Zero for lunch, hopping in our six-year-old used cars to drive to our single-floor houses or one-bedroom apartments, then repeating it tomorrow – he doesn’t understand. But we’re the ones who keep this country going.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Obama was slammed for being (gasp!) educated. With all his Harvard degreeness. Called an elitest.
and the repubs never brought up the fact the John Kerry was…rich. Married to a ketchup heiress, no never.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
absolutely…he’s asking those of us that aren’t enormously wealthy to pay more taxes while he cuts our social programs while in his previous decade+’s breaths, didn’t do any of that shit himself.
he’s promoting his experience running a business, right? well shouldn’t we look at HOW he ran that business instead of just taking his word that he did a great job?
August 30th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Can no longer over-leverage themselves to the point of Global meltdown as they fucking did.
As I said should have gone further.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Yeah, the 1/3 1/3 1/3 distribution of “power” isn’t really reflected in the coverage. I will say to be a Congress person in today’s age of media and the like is a sacrifice I could never do. I can’t remember the last “positive” story I’ve read/seen in the news about a member of the House or Senate.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
The nerve of him, trying to actually work with his “co-workers”
August 30th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
nope…because fuck congress and the supreme court too. fuck all of DC.
agin…VIOLENT REVOLUTION!!!
August 30th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
he’s asking those of us that aren’t enormously wealthy to pay more taxes while he cuts our social programs while in his previous decade+’s breaths, didn’t do any of that shit himself
This is what I wanted. Thank you
August 30th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Can no longer over-leverage themselves to the point of Global meltdown as they fucking did.
yet they still carry leverage ratios that are so far out of whack it boggles the mind. again, toothless. if nothing else, it just wasted everyone’s time trying to sift through it all.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
he should have realized after McConnell (i think, either him or Boehner) said they wanted to make him a 1 term prez, that bipartisanship was never going to happen
August 30th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
You feel this way about the Kennedy’s too, I suppose? What’s the big deal about our president “understanding” the plight of every single person in the country?
August 30th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
Can no longer over-leverage themselves to the point of Global meltdown as they fucking did.
As I said should have gone further
he should have hammered the shit out of the I banks, seperated them from the Commercial banks.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
“You say you want a revolution, well you know…” heard that on a Nike commercial
August 30th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Just think what he’ll do to the country if he’s basing his experience on running businesses. His experience was to come in and slash jobs/outsource. He’s going to come in and slash any type of program that provides services to the poor/elderly while reducing taxes on the wealthy. He refuses to actually provide any type of budget while his running mate has a budget that does exactly what I mentioned above that he claims is different from his non existent plan. He’s also not showing us any of his tax returns to see where the money that he made from that business has ended up. He claims to have paid somewhere around 13% tax and then tries to claim that when you throw in his charitable donations that his tax rate was really 20%. So even his charity work was only done to reduce his taxes.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Well, since campaign fundraising is the prime focus of every member of Congress, and they are all essentially controlled by deep-pocket lobbyists, there are no positive stories about them.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
i feel that JFK was one of the worst presidents we’ve had since the depression. look at the shit that dude got us into!!!
August 30th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
Again I ask – When is the last time the opposing party worked really hard to get their opponent re-elected? How old are you anyway?
August 30th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
Also reformed mortgage lending and provided greater oversight to federal agencies.
Do you think Romney will regulate Wall Street?
August 30th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
He’s also not showing us any of his tax returns to see where the money that he made from that business has ended up
nor should he have to. none of them should. nobody pays the full amount of taxes, and i dont need my time wasted tracking down some asshole’s W2.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
You do a fine job if misdirecting arguments to fit your point of view, instead of directly responding to the actual comment made.
I wasn’t alive for JFK and Ted really had nothing to do with me. John Kerry married into a filthy rich family and I’m not too keen on that guy.
I can’t stop laughing at your second question.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
and a lot of that was to the mormon church and other mormon charities as well…which is technically fine, but ethically, is it charity if he’s funding trips for missions for a religion that’s almost completely insular? is it still charity if there’s a religious qualification attached to it? “oh, you’re a baptist? sorry, no romneybucks for you.”
August 30th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Why assume that because someone has business experience he or she will do a good job running the government?
Business and government are entirely different animals. The goal of one is to make money, the goal of the other is to provide for the security and the general welfare of its citizens.
Harry Truman was a bad businessman and a good president. Jimmy Carter was a good businessman and a bad president.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
well jimmy carter didn’t campaign during the whole iran embassy hostage thing. that wasn’t helping himself…
August 30th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Also reformed mortgage lending and provided greater oversight to federal agencies.
Do you think Romney will regulate Wall Street?
and that reform did little. i have a few buddies with crap credit and no liquidity that got a 5% mortgage. some reform.
and no, romney wont do a damn thing to wall street.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Totally agree.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
then how will anything ever change for the better?? No legislation unless either side has a rock solid, filibuster proof majority? How is this ok??
And I didn’t say “work really hard to get the other guy re-elected” but you dont think there is a difference between your extreme to actually working together, compromising, and putting legislation out there that actually benefits the country? Come the fuck on
August 30th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
FDR was a rich blue blood and he was a fair, charitable leader…
August 30th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
It’s part of the process. As far as I can tell, being a mid-20′s person myself, there’s this sense of entitlement from anyone in their 20′s that – fresh out of college – they should have a 3,000 sq ft house with a 2 car garage and two brand new BMW’s parked in it. It doesn’t work that way. You have to walk before you can run….
August 30th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Was it a millionaire who said “imagine no possessions”?
/ Costello’d
August 30th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Another question. If the Republicans went full-on after the moderate vote, softened on some hard-right stances, would they win because they draw the undecided/moderate vote in the swing states? Or would they lose because the hard-core Republicans wouldn’t have high enough turn-out in those states.
Here, I’ll give you the blueprint:
1. If you’re going to remain “pro-life” then you’ve got to open up to the “except in cases of rape, incest or to protect the life of the mother.”
2. Lay off the cheap pops. Quit with the “official language” and “flag burning” amendment crap. It’s never going to pass and just proves to be a distraction ultimately. Let the Democrats do that kinda shit and call them out on it. You need to start painting (and acting) like the Republican Party is the party of grown-ups.
3. Paint the Democrats (modern Democrats) as talking big but failing to follow through with their promises or doing anything about the things they complain about.
4. Go to the oil companies and say, “We’re going to make available some areas for you to drill. HOWEVAH, if something goes wrong, it’s YOUR ASS that’s getting buried.”
5. Raise the federal minimum wage and make it so it adjusts for inflation every four years.
6. Be pro business by selling businesses on the idea of helping their own employees be better consumers. There, I just dressed up the “pay your workers” debate.
7. If you wanna be anti-gay or whatever because it goes against your values or whatever, fine. But then you’ve got to figure a way so that the gays can visit each other in the hospital and get benefits without having to jump through hoops.
8. Since you’re the party for adults, tell the public now is the time for having frank discussions on what needs to be cut and by how much. Personally I’d angle for more military cuts, but whatever. And cutting back on military spending MUST be in the cards. Everybody has to take a cut, particularly the groups that are spending the most money.
9. Go to American companies and offer exclusive government contracts. Tell the Big 3 car companies that the first company to develop a mail truck that gets 35 mpg or runs on something other than gas gets a long-term deal to produce the new fleet of mail trucks. Whoever creates the first 60 mpg sedan first gets a deal to produce that fleet for govt workers, etc.
10. Tell everybody–EVERYBODY–that we’re cutting back on the deductions everybody gets during income tax season. If you’re serious about reducing the debt, then everybody is going to have make sacrifices come tax time. And this doesn’t have to be a permanent thing: say that four the next four to six years or something.
11. Abandon the notion of a flat tax.
There’s more I haven’t thought of.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
At times like this, I miss Molly Ivins.
On George Bush the Less:
“Poor George. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth.”
On George Bush the Lesser:
“He was born on third base but thinks he hit a triple.”
August 30th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
i lean a tad right, but i kind of hope obama gets elected and just steamrolls what he wants knowing he wont have to run again. it might suck, but it probably cannot make the current situation much worse.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Charitable with taxpayer money, that is.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
You’re damn right. That sense of entitlement allowed tons of idiots to buy houses and burst that bubble.
I’m not ashamed to admit I’ve more than doubled my annual income since my first job out of college (I’m late 20s now). But I’m middle class as fuck and the only way I’ll ever get into the 250K+ bracket is by busting my ass and probably making a few friends along the way. If I do, I’ll never forget what it was like climbing that ladder. Romney doesn’t understand that. Fucker was born on the roof the ladder led to.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
I’m voting for write-in candidate “heldover” on my Presidential ballot in November.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
Also, “pro-life” to me means “anti-death penalty.” If you are against ending the life of some but putting others to death, you are not “pro-life.”
August 30th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
where are you getting this from?
all i want is a govt that doesn’t waste taxpayer dollars, runs efficiently, regardless of party lines has the country’s best interests in mind and doesn’t take bribes from companies that can buy legislation. how is that entitled?
August 30th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
And he and his cohorts want to kick the ladder away.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
See, here’s the problem. They aren’t even walking. They are posting on an internet board, complaining about lack of achievement, while at “work.” That’s not walking. That’s laying on the couch bitching about things that are controllable, but only if you actually try to control it. Most entitled generation ever.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Ended the depression was rather charitable you cur.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Yeah. I can’t much argue that. I’m mid-20′s and do fairly well but as you put it ‘middle class as fuck’ and when the guy tells me he only paid 13% – yeah, I get a little miffed. I make God knows how much less and pay more than 13%….But, at the end of the day, “don’t hate the player, hate the game.” I have no problem with closing many of these loopholes that would allow him to get a rate such as that and pay less than he should.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
If you don’t understand the difference, you’re either an idiot or you’re intentionally being obtuse.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
August 30th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
You don’t think actually saying that you will do what you can to make Obama a one term president is a little different than working towards your party’s goals? The current Republican leadership fought him every step of the way and now are so full of it that they even have the nerve to blame him for things like TARP/auto bailout which they voted for (I’m looking at you Paul Ryan). Throw in the fact that Republicans who worked on Simpson Bowles then turned around and killed it (again Paul Ryan).
August 30th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
hey, don’t hate on me that i have time to comment on this all morning because ive got my caseload currently sitting at 132% updated and in great order. of course, it’s entitled of me to ask for a little bump up in compensation because im salty that my 132% caseload garners the same salary as my coworkers who are below 80%…
August 30th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Reminds me of the idiot legislators in Louisiana who voted to direct taxpayer funds to religious schools, then nearly had an aneurysm when they learned that meant Islamic and other non-Christian schools qualified for that funding.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
By most entitled you mean worst off in terms of debt, wages, employment opportunities, rights, rate of incarceration, medical access and cost of living.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
I’m an idiot, explain the difference to me.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Life begins at conception according to your ilk…not sure where it says in the Bible that a person can forfeit their right to it through deeds (aside from the Old Testament but I thought Christians had to back away from that since it also says eating shellfish is an abomination and it’s okay to sell your kids into slavery)
August 30th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Spence I’d argue your goals are more well thought out and selfless than an average ‘just out of college’ person has and that should be commended….I’m just saying the average shithead on the 6 year ‘parents are paying plan’ isn’t going to have the same well thought out goals, etc. that you do.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Andy Dufrense said that to the Warden and he extra time in solitary.
/Shawshank’d
August 30th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
IIRC, the Bible says, “Thou shalt not kill.” Don’t remember seeing any footnotes attached that allow for the death penalty.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Close the loopholes, cut spending (especially defense) and rid us of the Bush tax cuts. That’ll get us back toward the black.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:51 AM
Let’s do this:
2 pro choice women supreme court
Pulled out of Iraq
Ended DOMA
U.S. Auto Industry Bailed out saved the industry
Passed Health Care Reform (already ended pre-existing conditions bullshit)
Passed Wall Street Reform (should have gone further)
Stimulus Bill prevented depression
Removed Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program
Boosted Fuel Efficiency Standards (this is huge)
Credit Card Reforms (can’t raise rates without notice)
Stronger Pay Equality Laws
On pace to reduce defense spending $450 billion
Regulated shitty for-profit colleges
Increase funding for Broadband Coverage
Eliminated restrictions on Stem Cell Research
Not bad for a 2 year window.
Fuck, if he touches on all of this and basically says, “now imagine what we can do with another four years” I think he’s got it won.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
dikembe…appreciate it, and im glad youre not taking anyhthing i say personally. and i know im quite naive…i know there are machinations in place that can’t just be cast aside.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Not trying to be an internet tough guy but I have so much rage at that outrageous ignorance and lack of knowledge I would have fucked you up.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Solid work.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
More points for the “New and Improved GOP”:
12. Make “establishing term limits” part of your party platform.
13. Stand behind this one sentence phrase: An equal day’s pay for an equal day’s work. Boom.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
One involves killing someone who killed someone else. The other involves killing someone who did not kill someone else.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
This. I made five figures last year and paid a higher tax rate that the multimillionaire.
I paid more in taxes last year than GE did.
And before anyone jumps in with that “job creator” argument — yes, I help create jobs, through spending. Corporations don’t “create” jobs; consumers create jobs.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
he does have a valid point.
what good does bitching do without action? why complain about our lot in life when we can get to work on our own upward mobility? nothing wrong with taking that stance…
tho, i complain about paul ryan because he’s a god damned cunt, that’s why.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
that’s it…im starting a violent revolution. craig’s right…why waste time at work here commenting? we got torches to light and pitchforks to distribute! lets burn DC to the fucking ground!!!
August 30th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
Again, you cannot be “pro-life” if you advocate for having someone put to death. ou can be “anti-abortion” while still supporting the death penalty, but NOT “pro-life.”
Perhaps you are the idiot here for failing to understand that.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Also, “pro-life” to me means “anti-death penalty.” If you are against ending the life of some but putting others to death, you are not “pro-life.”
Right. Forgot about that.
14. Abolish the death penalty. Convince the American people that the incessant appeals process and having to keep these assholes confined away from the rest of the population is costing too much money.
15. Find a way to blend science and faith. “We believe God created the Earth and Universe, and science is our way of understanding God’s majesty” and shit. Something like that.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Expect a knock on your office door and shit-eating grin (like Gomie on Sunday night) from an FBI agent in five minutes spencer.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
That would be awesome but it would never happen.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
so what you’re saying is abortion cases should be seen in front of a jury of our own peers? that’s actually not a bad idea…gets the whore-ish ness out of it and allows for medically necessary (or in case of “legitimate rape”) to be approved institutionally.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:59 AM
Dude I vote and write editorials and volunteered at a campaign I liked. I educated myself and can write about my personal stance on all issues. Generally hate joining everything as it seems like my tacit approval. Short of beating the piss out of dumb people in charge what the fuck should I do?
August 30th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
According to Catholic dogma, a life is a life. Only God has the authority to create life and destroy life. At least the Catholics are consistent on that topic.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
then it’s ok to get rid of an unwanted life afterall.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
don’t stop short, for starters. LETS GET EM.
i call boehner and kasich…i love ohio too much to let those bastards get away. this is personal.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
Close the loopholes, cut spending (especially defense) and rid us of the Bush tax cuts. That’ll get us back toward the black.
SPOT ON.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
You have to at least let me watch you take out Boehner. Please.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Easy way to end the abortion argument? Tell everyone to shut their pie holes and let the two responsible parties in each case – the mother and the father – decide what is best. Conservatives want to climb all over Democrats for building a ‘nanny state’ but how is telling a woman what she can and cannot do to her body any different?
August 30th, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Yeah, but you’re doing all that in Canada, so it’s pointless.
/ ‘Murican’d
August 30th, 2012 at 12:03 PM
YES!!!August 30th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
we can take him out like in casino…in a cornfield with bats. as long as i get the first hit, he’s fair game.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
Does it?
August 30th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
The voice of reason. You’ll never get elected in this town!
August 30th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
careful…if you can’t tell a woman what she can do with her body, that same logic insinuates you can’t tell anyone what drugs they can or cannot ingest. something im fully in favor of…
August 30th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
I am so for this.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:07 PM
That’s the Texas way — it’s better to execute a thousand innocent people rather than let one killer escape death.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:09 PM
Instead of term limits, make it a single term for any office. Length of term could be four to seven years. If at any time during that term you engage in campaign fundraising, you lose your office and are banned from occupying another for, oh, ten years.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:10 PM
I’m with you there. Sure things like coke, meth, etc., can be damaging and deadly when an idiot ingests too much but I say the more we take Darwinism out of this world the more we’re only screwing ourselves…
August 30th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
I’ve never done drugs in my life – not even weed. It’s just never appealed to me. Until very recently, I was against legalization. But I couldn’t come up with a reason why. I shouldn’t tell others that they can’t smoke the green.
kaiserwilhelm wrote a pretty good proposal yesterday for the legalization process that essentially allows people to grow it and smoke it in the privacy of their own homes, keeps it illegal in public, and the gov’t taxes the hell out of it.
Saves money and resources wasted on battling it and actually generates some revenue for the government to go after the really nasty drugs that cause people to do crazy shit.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
here’s the way i see it…$22b goes to the DEA each year to do NOTHING. legalize the shit they’re not keeping out of the country, regulate and tax it, and spend ONE OR TWO PERCENT of the DEA’s budget on public rehab and drug education…boom, more efficient use of taxpayer dollars.
as for the rest? give it to NASA.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
There is always the Breaking Bad hydrocloric acid disposal method
August 30th, 2012 at 12:13 PM
i always am skeptical of figures mentioning tax revenue from pot…once pot becomes legal, people will realize that it’s not really worth $1k+ per pound.
we’d probably save more by simply not prosecuting it than we would off of any tax revenue.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:13 PM
Damn. Look at Jesse all extra Yo’d out there.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:16 PM
Making certain drugs legal, but I’m assuming you dudes would be in favor of a legal age like alcohol right?
August 30th, 2012 at 12:17 PM
I’ll say this too – and as a very seasoned man of the green – the synthetic shit they’re putting out now is ten times worse in all facets than the au natural. It does the job, sure, but the side effects (IE laziness, munchies, passing out, etc.) that don’t even effect me now come on about 10 times as hard as I can ever recall. I even noticed things like insomnia and dependency start to pop up — issues I’d never had before.
Anyway, yeah, either look towards legalizing or be prepared to deal with a lot of shit that is going to come from these synthetics.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:17 PM
oh of course…you know im a teetotaler when it comes to booze tho. i think that shit’s just as bad as coke or heroin.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:18 PM
Absolutely. No beef with that at all. I’d even be fine if they jerked it up to 21, though that’s easy to say once you’re well past the age…
August 30th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
oh my god, you aint kidding man!!! the first time i tried salvia, i fucking flipped shit for 20 minutes and i was well seasoned at the time. i couldnt imagine what someone not used to getting stoned wouldve gone through…
August 30th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
Yeah, no kiddies. Probably 18 just like regular tobacco.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
Yeah, but you cant really be a ‘casual’ user of heroin.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:20 PM
18 should be the legal age of both pot and alcohol.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:20 PM
I get a “high” from taking 2-3 pulls from an apple cinnamon disc on the hooka. If I do it when drunk I just want to melt into the couch.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:21 PM
there are a lot of people that can’t be a causal drinker either…
counterpoint…id rather have someone passed out in their home on heroin than driving around drunk. heroin on it’s own is only a danger to the user, it’s the stealing, crime, prostitution, etc to supply the heroin that’s the problem.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:22 PM
No no, I’m saying NOBODY can be a casual user of heroin. That’s why it’s more dangerous. Much of the country are casual drinkers.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:22 PM
What are you? Nineteen, or Persian? Jesus CHRIST.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
The diseases they transmit to others are also a problem.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:24 PM
Rights? Medical access? COA? You must be kidding. Way too many “wants” are considered “needs” by this generation. What exact right are you missing that I had when I was 25? What medical access? Cost of living? You’ve been fed a lie.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Ha! My body isn’t used to tobacco, man.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
again, dangerous only to the user…that casual drinker’s getting in his car and driving home. 2010…487 deaths by heroin, 8,644 by booze. granted there are MILLIONS more using alcohol than heroin, but in any event, using heroin’s no more dangerous than basejumping, auto racing or crossfit.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
No, you wouldn’t have. You may have tried…
We can compare resumes if you’d like–professional and academic. You don’t want to do that, either.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
What in the hell are you talking about?
August 30th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
Its no more dangerous than the opiates pharmaceutical companies sell legally.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
only if you shoot up with them…otherwise, they don’t have any diseases you can’t get from sex or a doorknob.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:27 PM
This post is about as dumb as it gets. The wife is from Oklahoma so its pretty obvious she named the dogs. Talk about making something out of nothing. Waste of time, better luck next post.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:28 PM
I don’t know. Whatever that little flavored slab disc thing put on the bowl is.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:29 PM
This argument has no room for well thought out logic. Now, get to the pitch fork lighting.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Nothing like coming to the post at the leaven’th hour to tell everyone they just wasted time.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
grain flow forged mizuno mpitchfork-69 with KBS C-tapers s+ if you were wondering.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
So can we make heroin only legal if injested otherwise?
August 30th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
I believe they call that ‘soon to be burn carpet’ flavored
August 30th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
This is the reaction I have most times when the convo here becomes about drugs, golf, or Breaking Bad.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
not a bad idea…kinda like making ammo insanely expensive and regulated, not guns, if you regulated the shit out of syringes, users would have to smoke or snort it, which isn’t nearly the same high as shooting it right into your bloodstream.
not that i have personal experience…just anecdotes from users ive talekd with and heard interviews from.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
The only drug I’ve ever done that I genuinely did not like the way it made me feel because of the effects was dip.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
Yes but your buddy might just kill you over that last pill.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
A million times this!! My mother went from smoker to raging alcoholic to now being doped up on Oxy and almost bedridden.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
mmm…copenhagen.
/drools…into starbucks cup
August 30th, 2012 at 12:34 PM
Whoever threw the 1K per pound line out there is getting a hook up or buying some schwiggity.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:35 PM
wholesale bro…why would i mention street value? in any event, if pot’s legal, it’d be dollars per pound, not thousands of dollars.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:35 PM
I’ve heard the buzzes on it are quite different.
I only need a few pulls from the hookah. Any more and I feel like shit.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:36 PM
grain flow forged mizuno mpitchfork-69 with KBS C-tapers s+ if you were wondering.
these mp 59s are shocking. i had some buddies try them on the course the other day, and let them know they had just hit a MB after they smoked it.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:38 PM
Mine’s a gouger. They legalize it I can probably get 10 bucks knocked off.
And, yeah, you right. I was mentally thinking of a quap.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
….. uh, no?
August 30th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
Yes and no. It will be taxed. So that means just like cigarettes I will have to drive to the Indian res to save some money on my pound.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
There are what, like 450 grams in a pound? A cigarette is a gram of tobacco or so? It will still be a few hundred dollars. But I guess the overall overhead would drop, in theory.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:05 PM
Paul Ryan’s wife’s uncle is Dave Boren. Dave Boren is the President of the University of Oklahoma.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:06 PM
In 2010, tobacco was grown on 337,450 acres. U.S. tobacco yields have been variable, they peaked in 1994 at 2,358 pounds per acre compared to a low of 1,811 pounds per acre in 1983. In 2010, yield per acre was 2,133 pounds and the average price per pound was $1.77.
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im not talking about how much it would cost in stores. if it’s legal, it’s a crop.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:08 PM
Once again, what in the hell are you talking about? What is a “hooka”?
August 30th, 2012 at 1:29 PM
A potential victim of Craig James the Playa
August 30th, 2012 at 1:30 PM
Also if you are currently winning Pub Trivia Night they are not allowed to cut you off.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:50 PM
I paid my bar tab on a regular basis by winning pub trivia night when I lived in San Francisco, where every pub has a trivia night.