Roundup: US Open Begins Today, College Football Begins Thursday & Get Well Soon, Rick Majerus

All, College Basketball, College Football, Douchy Agents, Food, Frauds, Golf, Lance Armstrong, Media Gossip/Musings, NFL, Penn State Scandal, Politics, Roundup, Twitter, Video Jason McIntyre August 27th. 2012, 8:14am

Amber Heard … Judd Apatow’s daughter is 14 and has over 66,000 twitter followers … grizzly bear mauls man in Denali National Park … strong candidate for most bizarre story of the year … “Man with big rock attacks Seattle police station” … a depressing college tuition chart … Charlie Crist endorses Obama … “Does Psalms 137 describe the symptoms of a stroke?” …RIP Neil Armstrong … former Governor to wed his mistress … Todd McShay’s wife is an event planner … how have the last three years been on the middle class? … the Palms in Vegas is undergoing a massive overhaul … the US Open will have great food …

What happens when an LSU fan goes into Alabama country. [NYT]

Rick Majerus won’t coach St. Louis this season due to a major heart issue. [Post-Dispatch]

Golfers are mostly boring to read about, but I recommend this Nick Watney feature. [Golf Digest]

The Ravens dumped kicker Billy Cundiff, and go into the season with an undrafted rookie kicker. [Sun]

Football friends: Chiefs coach and Jayhawks coach. [Star]

We usually slam agents here, but Max Eisenbud, Maria Sharapova’s agent, is good people. [Times]

“What kind of football program is Gene Chizik running?” [AL.com]

If you watch NFL pregame shows – I’m sorry – out with Frank Caliendo, in with someone named Rob Riggle. [USA Today]

After the Vontae Davis trade, columnists asks if Miami coach Joe Philbin knows what he’s doing. [Sun-Sentinel]

Losery Penn State trustee feels the school has been treated unfairly. [Penn Live]

What happens to US-born kids when their parents get deported? [AP]

Sally Jenkins with a spirited defense of Lance Armstrong. Or, depending on how you read it, the column is enough of a rip job of the USADA to make you want to back Armstrong. [Wash Post]

Roger Clemens returned to baseball, in case you missed it. [Fox Sports Southwest]

Warning: At the 24-second mark, you’ll cover your mouth and yell at the girl to look out. According to the news clip that introduced the story, she survived, but had to have her foot amputated. [via Cartmaniak]

There was a bull on the loose at a Fair in Pennsylvania over the weekend. Ten people were injured, but nobody was seriously hurt.

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260 Responses to “Roundup: US Open Begins Today, College Football Begins Thursday & Get Well Soon, Rick Majerus”

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A.P. Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:21 AM
Ill take your word for it on the accident video. Also, i think you switched letters in amber’s name by accident
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squawkbox Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:22 AM
According to the news clip that introduced the story, she survived, but had to have her foot amputated.
Will not watch. That’s no way to start a Monday.
Humblebrag or stupidity-check: I flew in to Ft Myers and then drove to Naples last night.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:23 AM
Holy shit that video with the train is horrific.
As a Ravens fan I feel bad for Cundiff. The guy was a huge weapon during his time in Baltimore, particularly before the NFL moved kickoffs up five yards. He would almost always start prevent a return by blasting the ball deep into the end zone for touchbacks. Inexcusable to miss that kick in the playoffs, but Lee Evans was the true turd in that game and Cundiff should be remembered more fondly than he will be.
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José Pippen Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:24 AM
I love Amber Herad, or as I like to call her, Amber Heard
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The Stigs American Cousin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:29 AM
Please, for the love of all that is holy, stop putting the superior Round Up picture on the outside.
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A.P. Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:31 AM
/turns on carnival-sized popcorn machine
//hands out bags to everyone
///awaits a Jets post
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:31 AM
Good call on posting the 1969 Times article for the obit, J-Mac.
Armstrong only had 17 seconds of fuel left in the lunar module when he finally set it down. 17 more seconds and Pete Conrad is immortalized instead.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:31 AM
WOOOOOO! Pats lock up Aaron Hernandez Long term!
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:33 AM
in with someone named Rob Riggle.
Riggle is a great character actor but just does the bit over and over. He was the cop with the taser in police HQ in The Hangover and was the guy who had a heart attack talking to Will Ferrell at work in Step Brothers.
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kazzythekid Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:33 AM
Only 1 Breaking Bad left ….but thank god The Newsroom is over!
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HtownHacker Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:33 AM
After the Vontae Davis trade, columnists asks if Miami coach Joe Philbin knows what he’s doing. [Sun-Sentinel]
Not very confident that they’ll work out, but the Dolphins have certainly made some “interesting” moves lately.
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A.P. Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:34 AM
Perhaps McShay’s wife is more interesting than her husband.
/fire kiper and mcshay
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A.P. Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:35 AM
US Open starts today!
/tennis honk
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RexKramerDangerSeeker Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:35 AM
Riggle is a great character actor but just does the bit over and over.
I would have gone with Daily Show correspondent for the first 9 points of reference and then thrown in a tenth for “and he’s in most every comedy movie of the last 5 years”.
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:36 AM
a depressing college tuition chart
that says the jump is do to school’s building and investing and passing it on to students. Yes. But government funding for state schools is way off to. Ohio state colleges were funded 87% by the government in the 70′s. In 2015, that’ll be 13% approximately. These factors and the leap in employee costs and pensions are all significant. Therfore, pay the players.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:36 AM
“Why is it that the NCAA, which includes among its members universities and colleges that graduate 20 percent of their basketball players and 50 percent of their football players, sanctioning Penn State for allowing athletics to trump academics when it’s Penn State that graduates 88 percent of its football players?” asked an angry trustee, Joel Myers.
Add this to the “good point” pile.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:36 AM
Armstrong only had 17 seconds of fuel left in the lunar module when he finally set it down. 17 more seconds and Pete Conrad is immortalized instead.
well, armstrong would have been immortalized, too, but way back in 1969 for another reason had he run out of fuel.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:39 AM
Only 1 Breaking Bad left
that was definitely one of the better episodes of the series last night. the walls are closing in
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:41 AM
Sally Jenkins with a spirited defense of Lance Armstrong.
Shut her down. I give Lance’s PR flak/bulldog credit though, that was some really spirited work he sent over for Jenkins to publish.
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Mantis Toboggan Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:42 AM
“Just shut the fuck up, and let me die in peace.”
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cracker jack Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:42 AM
someone named Rob Riggle.
Seriously?
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Urinal Mint wants to meet up for pizza Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:42 AM
The gift that keeps on giving
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cracker jack Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:43 AM
but thank god The Newsroom is over!
I swear television seasons are getting shorter and shorter these days.
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spencer096 Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:43 AM
Golfers are mostly boring to read about, but I recommend this Nick Watney feature.
agree disagree…read something about ben hogan or lee trevino. aint boring, that’s for sure.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:44 AM
I swear television seasons are getting shorter and shorter these days.
13-15 should be the max for any modern drama. Networks do themseleves a disservice with these 22-24 episode seasons. Way too much filler, meaningless subplots and stalling.
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kazzythekid Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:44 AM
“Say my name!”
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Urinal Mint wants to meet up for pizza Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:44 AM
Golfers are mostly boring to read about, but I recommend this Nick Watney feature. [Golf Digest]
Is this due to them staying out of jail, not sending cock pics out, or (for the most part) handling their finances reasonably?
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spencer096 Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:45 AM
also i think it’s funny that you “recommend” a feature on one of the most boring golfers. HE LIKES RAP! JUXTAPOSITION! ZOMG!
interesting golfer to read about.
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:46 AM
It’s odd in a way that Armstrong, Collins and Aldrin never went into space again. I alos read that note about how Armstrong (as flight commander) was given the choice (to strengthen his crew) and replace Aldrin with Jim Lovell, but he didn’t want to take Lovell off his command of Apollo 13. Ultimately, Lovell never got to step on the moon.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:48 AM
well, armstrong would have been immortalized, too, but way back in 1969 for another reason had he run out of fuel.
Well….yeah.
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spencer096 Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:48 AM
I alos read that note about how Armstrong (as flight commander) was given the choice (to strengthen his crew) and replace Aldrin with Jim Lovell, but he didn’t want to take Lovell off his command of Apollo 13.
strengthen the crew by getting rid of buzz aldrin? i guess that would’ve worked on paper until buzz aldrin punched a hole through it.
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payaso Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:49 AM
Judd Apatow’s daughter is 14 and has over 66,000 twitter followers
She’ll have her own HBO “dramedy” soon enough.
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:50 AM
Todd McShay’s wife is an event planner
Good call on the wide lens photo.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:51 AM
It’s odd in a way that Armstrong, Collins and Aldrin never went into space again. I alos read that note about how Armstrong (as flight commander) was given the choice (to strengthen his crew) and replace Aldrin with Jim Lovell, but he didn’t want to take Lovell off his command of Apollo 13. Ultimately, Lovell never got to step on the moon.
Not many of those guys fly into space more than once. Lovell had Apollo 8 and 13, but only after Alan Shepard got an ear infection and Lovell’s crew got bumped up to prime. Gus Grissom went up in Mercury and Gemini, and was scheduled to command Apollo 1 before dying in the training capsule fire. I think Gene Cernan went up twice, too.
There just weren’t a lot of slots available and lots of astronauts in the queue.
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spencer096 Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:51 AM
amber heard is awesome.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:53 AM
13-15 should be the max for any modern drama. Networks do themseleves a disservice with these 22-24 episode seasons. Way too much filler, meaningless subplots and stalling.
unless you’re “True Blood” and manage to show 13 episodes is about 10 too many.
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RexKramerDangerSeeker Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:54 AM
amber heard is awesome.
The above pic is awesome and she was quite fetching in The Rum Diary.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:54 AM
Not many of those guys fly into space more than once. Lovell had Apollo 8 and 13, but only after Alan Shepard got an ear infection and Lovell’s crew got bumped up to prime. Gus Grissom went up in Mercury and Gemini, and was scheduled to command Apollo 1 before dying in the training capsule fire. I think Gene Cernan went up twice, too.
There just weren’t a lot of slots available and lots of astronauts in the queue.
that and the training for each mission was so long, wasn’t it? guys were prepping for apollo 11 when apollo 8 was getting ready for launch, etc.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:55 AM
unless you’re “True Blood” and manage to show 13 episodes is about 10 too many.
I didn’t know anyone still watched that show.
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:56 AM
Gene Cernan was the last man to walk on the moon. He also is the only person to go on the moon twice. Legend.
Pre-NASA, there was test flight where the two pilots where Chuck Yeager and Neil Armstrong. Hell yes.
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squawkbox Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:56 AM
Amber Heard
I’d love just one night to try to convince her to join the other team. Whether she switches or not – I don’t really care.
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kazzythekid Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:57 AM
At least we get to trade Walter White for Chalky White in a couple weeks.
/I hope we see Ms. Schroder’s tits this season
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:58 AM
that and the training for each mission was so long, wasn’t it? guys were prepping for apollo 11 when apollo 8 was getting ready for launch, etc.
Pretty much, yeah. And each subsequent mission assumed the success of the first. That didn’t always happen. It took the Gemini program three tries to complete the first spacewalk, which backed up other missions.
I think when Lovell was moved up to Apollo 13 there were real questions about whether his veteran crew could be ready, and there was still six months before the launch.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:58 AM
I didn’t know anyone still watched that show.
i’ve been unfortunate enough to watch it this season. i read the recap for the finale last night, i don’t think i’ll be watching it next season.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:01 AM
Pre-NASA, there was test flight where the two pilots where Chuck Yeager and Neil Armstrong. Hell yes.
Yeager and those supersonic test pilots really looked down on the Mercury 7 for a long time. They were baffled as to why these guys who would essentially sit in a pod on top of a giant missile then fall into the ocean were getting all this attention when they were flying actual jets (like the X-15) at Mach 3 50 miles in the air.
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KC Resident Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:03 AM
in with someone named Rob Riggle.
Well, then. I see this has already been addressed.
/still not watching the pre-game show.
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Tom Joads Ghost Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:07 AM
OT
Hey Spence, update from the weekend, 2nd gross, Ist net. Started day 2 three back, caught the leader on 8, went one up on 9…..and promptly puked it up. Just blew it
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squawkbox Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:08 AM
When they performed a pat-down search of the man and reached “the waistline area,” officers could feel something vibrating. The man then informed them he also had a sex toy inserted inside him.
Go thank a police officer today for doing his job.
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hailleroy Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:08 AM
Pretty cool site on the Apollo 11; also recommend In the Shadow of the Moon doc for a history of the Apollo program as told by the astronauts
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hailleroy Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:09 AM
Well dammit
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:13 AM
I’m pretty sure the day of the moon landing was one of four red letter days in Plain Dealer history. I think my Dad still has them all.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:13 AM
recommend In the Shadow of the Moon doc for a history of the Apollo program as told by the astronauts
Shadow of the Moon is a great doc. Collins really shines there.
Also, anyone with Netflix should immediately put When We Left Earth into their queue. Its a six-part documentary about the space program from Mercury to the Shuttle missions, and it’s told using footage restored and converted into HD frame by frame. Armstrong, Cernan, Lovell, Duke, Scott Aldrin, Carpenter — almost everyone alive from the 60s and 70s who is still alive spoke on camera for this documentary. Really amazing stuff all the way around.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:14 AM
“Everyone alive who is still alive.” Christ.
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The Wayne Fontes Safari Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:15 AM
Rick Majerus won’t coach St. Louis this season due to a major heart issue.
Needs to go see the magic man.
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:17 AM
Spencer check this auction:
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:18 AM
Thanks Queefer I am going to try to buy that someplaece
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:18 AM
Over my weekend of learning about Neil Armstrong I came across this wiki page — which is pretty incredible and I never knew existed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_Astronaut
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heldover Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:19 AM
Armstrong only had 17 seconds of fuel left in the lunar module when he finally set it down. 17 more seconds and Pete Conrad is immortalized instead.
My ultimate fear is that we lose somebody in the Mars mission prep and everybody gets all “THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!” and we scrap all plans to go to Mars.
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hailleroy Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:19 AM
When We Left Earth is great
Agree on Collins in Moon – I’ve always thought he had the toughest job in history; fly the first crew to land on the Moon and then sit there and watch from 60 miles away and never get a chance to land. But he nails it in the doc; comes across as a really, really cool guy
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:19 AM
Spencer check this auction:
Holy shit that’s awesome.
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Der Kaiser Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:20 AM
If you watch NFL pregame shows – I’m sorry – out with Frank Caliendo, in with someone named Rob Riggle. [USA Today]
Was humor always a part of pre-game shows or is this something the network recently (over past 10 years) decided to insert into their show? I feel like “Inside the NBA” is to blame for this. They are by far the best pre-game show. But that works because Charles Barkley is genuinely funny. But other networks have sadly reached a conclusion that they too can emulate the “Inside the NBA” model. Therefore you have things like the clip below where Shannon Sharpe is desperately fishing for laugh and rest of the panel is reacting like they are audience members at showtime at apolo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g3pttNPSTE
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molemaninthemorning Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:22 AM
Losery is a solid word in the lexicon of all taken seriously journalists.
Also, it’s bullshit that we shoot bears after they kill a guy. Hey MAYBE you crunchy cocksuckers don’t go plodding through their homes and you won’t get lit up. Fucking outdoorsmen.
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José Pippen Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:22 AM
I didn’t know anyone still watched that show.
i’ve been unfortunate enough to watch it this season. i read the recap for the finale last night, i don’t think i’ll be watching it next season.
I got to episode 5 of this season before finally I threw in the towel. It feels good to quit watching shitty shows. I tortured myself through the last 4 seasons of Entourage for no damn reason; never again.
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NinoBrown Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:23 AM
“Say My Name, Say My Name” Walter White as Destiny’s Child.
It is all starting to fall apart now, he will go after Jesse next, already training his replacement.
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heldover Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:23 AM
Also, anyone with Netflix should immediately put When We Left Earth into their queue. Its a six-part documentary about the space program from Mercury to the Shuttle missions, and it’s told using footage restored and converted into HD frame by frame. Armstrong, Cernan, Lovell, Duke, Scott Aldrin, Carpenter — almost everyone alive from the 60s and 70s who is still alive spoke on camera for this documentary. Really amazing stuff all the way around.
Will do. Tried to find Right Stuff on Netflix Instant, but no dice. So this will be good to see. I settled on the Mythbusters episode where they debunk the conspiracy theorists.
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heldover Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:24 AM
Also, it’s bullshit that we shoot bears after they kill a guy. Hey MAYBE you crunchy cocksuckers don’t go plodding through their homes and you won’t get lit up. Fucking outdoorsmen.
From the ‘Meth thinks everybody in the Gulf region deserves what they get” playbook.
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hailleroy Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:24 AM
Grizz – that is awesome; never had heard of that before
If you haven’t seen them already, check out the images of the different landing sites that one of the new orbiters captured. amazing that a lot of what went up there 40 years ago is still visible
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molemaninthemorning Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:25 AM
Those paper headlines are awesome. Can’t imagine how bad they smell given the yellowing and the fact that they’re from Ohio.
My favorite part of WWII that doesn’t get discussed much is the line of subs the Nazis had lined up on our coast.
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Der Kaiser Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:25 AM
I’ve stuck it out with “The Office” for the entirety of its run. Will watch every episode for the final season coming up. Once I start watching, I usually won’t quit a show mid-run. “The Newsroom” being an exception.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:26 AM
My ultimate fear is that we lose somebody in the Mars mission prep and everybody gets all “THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!” and we scrap all plans to go to Mars.
Agreed. Shit there was a real fear that the Apollo program would be canceled after the fire that killed Grissom, a legend at the time. The world is much different now. I wonder if a Mars program could survive anything less than perfection.
What struck me the most reading about Armstrong and the rest of those guys is how complacent we’ve become about space. Not only have we lost our sense of wonder and national sense of accomplishment, but we no longer romanticize the stars. These guys flew into the fucking universe. They walked on another world. And American, by and large, don’t give a shit anymore.
We need another generation of heroes like these guys to jumps start another revolution. How many kids do you think would go into areospace engineering today if we still cranked out men of this caliber and made sure the world recognized their accomplishments?
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arkbadger Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:27 AM
Spencer check this auction:
that’s pretty bad ass. I’ve got some older sports stuff dating back to the late 80′s and early 90′s, nothing like that though.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:28 AM
I got to episode 5 of this season before finally I threw in the towel. It feels good to quit watching shitty shows. I tortured myself through the last 4 seasons of Entourage for no damn reason; never again.
I think that’s when i mentally clocked out, we have some friends from down the street come over monday nights to watch the show, so i’ve just been trying to enjoy it and not think about it. it’s been impossible though.
apparently alan ball is leaving the show, too, so even he sees how shitty it is.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:28 AM
Tried to find Right Stuff on Netflix Instant, but no dice.
It was on there for a long time but disappeared from my queue earlier this year. Ever read the book? Fantastic.
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NinoBrown Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:28 AM
Was humor always a part of pre-game shows or is this something the network recently (over past 10 years) decided to insert into their show?
I think only FOX has a “comedian” on the show, you have to fill time when they keep expanding the pre-game shows. The days of Brent, Irv and Jimmy the Greek are gone.
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molemaninthemorning Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:29 AM
From the ‘Meth thinks everybody in the Gulf region deserves what they get” playbook.
Not even close.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:30 AM
I’ve stuck it out with “The Office” for the entirety of its run. Will watch every episode for the final season coming up.
I’ll record it and watch a few at the same time, but as long as that nellie woman is on the show i’ll avoid it if possible.
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Der Kaiser Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:32 AM
I think only FOX has a “comedian” on the show, you have to fill time when they keep expanding the pre-game shows. The days of Brent, Irv and Jimmy the Greek are gone.
Well Fox is blatant about it. But CBS is convinced Shannon Sharpe is Chris Rock of NFL. The amount of over-laughing that happens in that show at Sharpe’s “jokes” is just ridiculous.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:32 AM
I quit on The Office before Carrell left. Just couldn’t take it anymore. Managed to watch all of The Newsroom, though. Horrific romantic subplots aside, the show is compulsively watchable when sticking to the actual business of the news.
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Mantis Toboggan Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:33 AM
Was humor always a part of pre-game shows or is this something the network recently (over past 10 years) decided to insert into their show?
I find CBS’ advertisements with the whole pregame crew doing a fake laugh when one drops a football painfully hilarious.
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molemaninthemorning Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:34 AM
These guys flew into the fucking universe. They walked on another world. And American, by and large, don’t give a shit anymore.
We don’t care about science anymore unless it makes our lives easier or more complicated. We’re not impressed by space travel but we’ll shit ourselves when the next iPhone is announced. It will be hailed as revolutionary and a modern marvel, while the most interest we have in real science will be limited to people sharing a pithy alien picture George Takei’s intern just found on a four month old tumblr post.
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s1rweeze Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:34 AM
recommend In the Shadow of the Moon doc for a history of the Apollo program as told by the astronauts
Totally agree, this was a great doc. Absolutely incredible that those guys were inventing an entire industry on the fly. Must’ve been beyond nerve-wracking to watch the moon landing live.
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NinoBrown Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:35 AM
Well Fox is blatant about it. But CBS is convinced Shannon Sharpe is Chris Rock of NFL. The amount of over-laughing that happens in that show at Sharpe’s “jokes” is just ridiculous.
One of the reasons I dont watch CBS’s show. I like James Brown too, he needs to go back to Fox.
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Der Kaiser Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:37 AM
I quit on The Office before Carrell left. Just couldn’t take it anymore. Managed to watch all of The Newsroom, though. Horrific romantic subplots aside, the show is compulsively watchable when sticking to the actual business of the news.
Last season was so bad, I am 100% convinced that writers were intentionally sabotaging the show. You couldn’t write a show THAT bad without actually trying. But I invested 7 seasons up to that point, might as well see how it ends.
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
Yesterday I asked my 4.5 yr old if he knew that man walked on the moon once. He was so interested and we went through a bunch of pictures from a Neil Armstrong photo essay. It was really cool to see his mind turning all this information over.
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s1rweeze Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
One of the reasons I dont watch CBS’s show. I like James Brown too, he needs to go back to Fox.
I’ve been saying this forever, but since everyone loves throwback jerseys (most of them anyway) why not just have a Throwback Week, where all coverage, graphics, uniforms, etc are all as they were in say, 1988?
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
We don’t care about science anymore unless it makes our lives easier or more complicated.
True, but the technology developed by NASA in support of space travel has shaped our modern lives more than almost anyone realizes.
I was more bemoaning our general lack of passion for discovery. There’s no push by Americans to go back to space, return to the moon, or reach Mars. Or rather, there’s no concerned effort. I think people would like to see us return to space or reach Mars. Someone with Obama’s rhetorical skills could throw down and sell a Kennedy challenge, setting a goal to reach Mars by 2025. Sure, Republicans would freak but fuck them. Let them be obstructionists to a national crusade. Jobs, pride, accomplishment — we’re in sore need of these, and all are by-products of a space race.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
We don’t care about science anymore unless it makes our lives easier or more complicated. We’re not impressed by space travel but we’ll shit ourselves when the next iPhone is announced. It will be hailed as revolutionary and a modern marvel, while the most interest we have in real science will be limited to people sharing a pithy alien picture George Takei’s intern just found on a four month old tumblr post.
we need to get another cold war going with some good propaganda to make people care.
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:41 AM
where all coverage, graphics, uniforms, etc are all as they were in say, 1988?
Bob Costas will do a segment on touchdown dances.
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molemaninthemorning Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:41 AM
Steve Carrell was my least favorite thing about the office. He hasn’t been funny since he left The Daily Show, to me. His entire career since then is basically one of two things: a ripoff of the voice modulation disorder character Ferrell did on SNL, or the following setup – *looks into camera while on speaker phone, makes goofy face* *looks at phone, says something awkward* *looks back at camera* BOOM SEVEN SEASONS OF HILARITY!
I loved Spader but cannot stand Catherine Tate. She was alright on Doctor Who but holy shit.
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s1rweeze Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:43 AM
Bob Costas will do a segment on touchdown dances.
Featuring a sit down interview with Ickey Woods
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:43 AM
Jobs, pride, accomplishment — we’re in sore need of these, and all are by-products of a space race.
Well, that’s the key. A race. That’d have to be the reason, to defeat somebody to a goal or national security/information issue.
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:43 AM
A legendary youtube video is a 72 year old Buzz Aldrin dropping the dude who thought the moon landings were hoaxes.
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KC Resident Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:43 AM
Throwback Week, where all coverage, graphics, uniforms, etc are all as they were in say, 1988?
Brent Musburger wasn’t all that.
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molemaninthemorning Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:44 AM
True, but the technology developed by NASA in support of space travel has shaped our modern lives more than almost anyone realizes.
I know, people just don’t care. Our collective attention span doesn’t have the tolerance for a decade long project, sadly. I agree with you on everything here.
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hailleroy Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:44 AM
Yesterday I asked my 4.5 yr old if he knew that man walked on the moon once. He was so interested and we went through a bunch of pictures from a Neil Armstrong photo essay. It was really cool to see his mind turning all this information over.
I’ve dont the same with my 7-year old. Since Armstrong was a Boilermaker, he’s heard me talk him up (and the Space program in general) a bunch.
I think the most frustrating part is what mole mentions – we just dont seem to care anymore. I told my wife I wanted to go to each convention and start knocking skulls together like coconuts until the clowns there realize that there arte more important things to focus on than trying to figure out who is allowed to get married or if being rich is a crime. Someone tweeted this AM that if Neil knew he would have to share the front page with news about Snooki having a kid, he would have just stayed ont he Moon.
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s1rweeze Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:44 AM
*looks into camera while on speaker phone, makes goofy face* *looks at phone, says something awkward* *looks back at camera*
You just summed up why I’m unable to sit through any episode. Wayyy too much smirking and “Isn’t this WACKY???” posturing.
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ButtersBC Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:44 AM
why not just have a Throwback Week, where all coverage, graphics, uniforms, etc are all as they were in say, 1988?
Not sure Pat Summerall can drink at that pace anymore
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s1rweeze Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:45 AM
Well, that’s the key. A race. That’d have to be the reason, to defeat somebody to a goal or national security/information issue.
So you’re saying we should throw down China’s punk card?
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:46 AM
Can’t imagine how bad they smell given the yellowing and the fact that they’re from Ohio
In Pittsburgh they had a newspaper strike and the only people impacted where unlucky business travelers since Pittspuke residents are all illiterate.
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molemaninthemorning Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:47 AM
Since Armstrong was a Boilermaker, he’s heard me talk him up (and the Space program in general) a bunch.
How many times did Neil blow out his knee?
/Hummel’d
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hailleroy Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:48 AM
I think people would like to see us return to space or reach Mars.
Can you imagine ANYONE (with the possible exception of Sir Richard Branson, who may just end up doing it anyway) having the stones to make a “We Choose to go to the Moon” speech in today’s environment?
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:48 AM
Well, that’s the key. A race. That’d have to be the reason, to defeat somebody to a goal or national security/information issue.
So we invent a race. Hold off the looming threat of the Chicoms or whatever.
Or better yet, we frame it in terms of American exceptionalism. We’re supposed to be on Mars. This is just an extension of manifest destiny, the pioneer spirit ingrained in each American’s DNA.
It wouldn’t be an easy sell, which is why it would take someone like Obama to close the deal. But I think you’d see Americans respond to an American challenge.
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hailleroy Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:48 AM
How many times did Neil blow out his knee?
Dammit
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NDub Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:49 AM
I’m with those who’ve mentioned the desire to travel the cosmos. People are so focused on themselves that they forget just how large the world and universe are. It’s pathetic.
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:49 AM
Just tell everybody theirs oil on Mars. We’ll be there by 2013.
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:50 AM
*there’s
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:50 AM
Can you imagine ANYONE (with the possible exception of Sir Richard Branson, who may just end up doing it anyway) having the stones to make a “We Choose to go to the Moon” speech in today’s environment?
I dunno, I think someone like Obama could sell it in a second term. Americans don’t like to be told we can’t do something. We like a challenge. The answer to the question “Why?” taps into something we all — right, center, left — want to believe about this country: that we’re the best, and the best should lead the way to the next world.
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Caribou Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:50 AM
Over my weekend of learning about Neil Armstrong I came across this wiki page — which is pretty incredible and I never knew existed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_Astronaut
Very cool find.
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:52 AM
People of both parties: “Yeah there’s no reason we should keep cutting into the NASA budget. It’s really just a minor thing when you look at the legacy programs like Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid.”
/does nothing about SSI and Medicare.
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NDub Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:53 AM
So we invent a race. Hold off the looming threat of the Chicoms or whatever.
Or better yet, we frame it in terms of American exceptionalism. We’re supposed to be on Mars. This is just an extension of manifest destiny, the pioneer spirit ingrained in each American’s DNA.
It wouldn’t be an easy sell, which is why it would take someone like Obama to close the deal. But I think you’d see Americans respond to an American challenge.
I wonder if this will be the argument in 5-10 years when hopefully our economy is better. Until then we’ll hear the argument “Why should I care about spending billions of dollars on Mars or space when we should use it on balancing our budget or creating jobs?!” Already heard it, actually.
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Der Kaiser Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:53 AM
NBC does the best NFL pre-game show. Faint praise, but still. If they somehow could get rid of Bob Van High Horse Costas, that’d the great. One thing that really surprised me is how candid Tony Dungy is. I really thought he would give viewers the coach speak and temper any criticism so his former colleagues wouldn’t be mad at him. But if he sees something he doesn’t like, he comes out a say it.
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sousedbergin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:53 AM
The gift that keeps on giving
Taking my pants off.
This is mean but I found this hilarious.
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RexKramerDangerSeeker Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:53 AM
We need another generation of heroes like these guys to jumps start another revolution. How many kids do you think would go into areospace engineering today if we still cranked out men of this caliber and made sure the world recognized their accomplishments?
This is what we’re seeing coming out of private industry now. The guys who grew up fascinated by space, Armstrong, the shuttle program, and have gone on to internet riches are the ones to watch for.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:53 AM
So we invent a race. Hold off the looming threat of the Chicoms or whatever.
Or better yet, we frame it in terms of American exceptionalism. We’re supposed to be on Mars. This is just an extension of manifest destiny, the pioneer spirit ingrained in each American’s DNA.
It wouldn’t be an easy sell, which is why it would take someone like Obama to close the deal. But I think you’d see Americans respond to an American challenge.
not happening with all these asshole deficit hawks who want to run a national economy like a lower middle class family budget.
no better way to create jobs than to create a whole new industry – Manned Missions to Mars and long term privatized colonization and travel.
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Caribou Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:57 AM
After the Vontae Davis trade, columnists asks if Miami coach Joe Philbin knows what he’s doing. [Sun-Sentinel]
Question is, “Does David Hyde know what he’s writing about?”. Philbin is cleaning house. Can’t blame him,several junk players on the team and if your not into buying what the coach/team is selling, it’s time for you to move. Vontae is extremely talented, but lacked discipline and was routinely burned. 9 INTs in 3 yrs, not much there. They got a 2nd round pick and a conditional pick as well. Not bad.
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s1rweeze Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:57 AM
NBC does the best NFL pre-game show. Faint praise, but still. If they somehow could get rid of Bob Van High Horse Costas, that’d the great. One thing that really surprised me is how candid Tony Dungy is. I really thought he would give viewers the coach speak and temper any criticism so his former colleagues wouldn’t be mad at him. But if he sees something he doesn’t like, he comes out a say it.
I agree with all that, and I think Harrison is even better than Dungy.
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hailleroy Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:58 AM
Rex – agreed. I made my kids watch the Dragon rendezvous with the ISS because I think that may end up being every bit as important to the next stage of space exploration as the Gemini program was in the 60′s. Musk, Branson, Bezos and the rest of the insanely rich internet billionaires are the ones with the dollars and vision to take the next step
Alternately, I think the fact that the Chinese are racing ahead in space may open the door to a response from the US along the lines you guys are suggesting. Nationalism and Xenophobia may have a positive outcome yet…
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:58 AM
I’m in for all of these things — I think space travel is important and every progession made is good in both the short and long term.
The only thing i am worried about is that if what happens in “Event Horizon” actually happen in real life — I’m out if that is a possibility. That movie still scares me.
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TrinityPills Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:58 AM
What happens when an LSU fan goes into Alabama country.
I lost interest after the third paragraph when it became obvious that this LSU fan wasn’t on a retalliatory t-bagging crusade.
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sousedbergin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:58 AM
People of both parties: “Yeah there’s no reason we should keep cutting into the NASA budget. It’s really just a minor thing when you look at the legacy programs like Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid.”
/does nothing about SSI and Medicare.
Decrease the rate of incarceration by 50%, that’s a real legacy cost, the amount saved would be more than double the cost needed to fund Nasa.
/Crazy Yankees and your jails
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:58 AM
Until then we’ll hear the argument “Why should I care about spending billions of dollars on Mars or space when we should use it on balancing our budget or creating jobs?!” Already heard it, actually.
Sure, and that’s the argument Republicans give for any program they disagree with. But lets offset the NASA increase with defense cuts or SSI reform. We have the money.
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NDub Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:59 AM
This is what we’re seeing coming out of private industry now. The guys who grew up fascinated by space, Armstrong, the shuttle program, and have gone on to internet riches are the ones to watch for.
Uh huh. I think there’s a reason we’ve got Richard Branson and his Virgin Galactic, and SpaceX. It’s not only because the private sector technology is catching up, but because these forward-thinking (and rich) individuals realize they’ve got to take the lead on exploration.
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Der Kaiser Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:59 AM
How about creating a truly world-wide space program? You could reel in America, the EU, and emerging markets like India and Brazil to lessen the financial burden on individual countries. Each nation puts a certain percentage of their GDP each year toward this space program and we put together a manned mission to Mars in 20 years.
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hailleroy Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:59 AM
And just like that, an article on how privatization of space has the potential to succeed
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:01 AM
They got a 2nd round pick and a conditional pick as well. Not bad.
considering if he started on the bench or underperformed that 2nd rounder turns into a 4th or 5th.
Irsay is just the idiot who publicly gave the dolphins the opportunity to ask for more than Davis was worth.
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RexKramerDangerSeeker Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:02 AM
How about creating a truly world-wide space program?
/Changes holiday gift donations on behalf of family and friends from The Human Fund to World-Wide Space Program Fund.
//Hyena’d
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Coach Mike Woodson, Atlanta Hawks Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:03 AM
Decrease the rate of incarceration by 50%, that’s a real legacy cost, the amount saved would be more than double the cost needed to fund Nasa.
/Crazy Yankees and your jails
Don’t forget about defense spending, too.
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NDub Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:03 AM
I read a story during the days around the Curiosity landing that cited these statistics: Americans spend $7 billion annually on potato chips. The Mars Science Laboratory, which includes Curiosity, costs $2.5 billion. Total.
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NinoBrown Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:05 AM
RIP Neil Armstrong
So Neil really said “Thats one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind”
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Caribou Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:05 AM
What happens when an LSU fan goes into Alabama country.
This writer is not too bright. I was expecting him to relay some type of story about taking photos and being brushed away, like he was. This typical on ALL campuses, at least the ones that anyone gives a shit about. The same thing is at Penn State with a blue tarp around the outside fence. You walk up and start snapping photos, at a non-fan gathering for any team, you will be immediately escorted away. I hate to tell the writer, he’s on private property as well.
/Roll Tide.
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squawkbox Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:05 AM
I’m old – old enough that I watched the moon walk live with my dad in full black and white. It was pretty late at night but it was just about the coolest thing ever. Dad drinking Schlitz, eating pretzels. Complete awesomeness.
My Aunt later worked with Michael Collins (Apollo 11 Command Module pilot) and received from him several envelopes of large crystal clear NASA Gemini and Apollo photos (approx 18×24, over 150 of them) that I break out once in a while just to remind me of it all. My kids really dig em too. Great stuff.
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squawkbox Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:06 AM
potato chips >>>> Tang (the drink, that is)
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:07 AM
The only downside to privatized space exploration is cost. These guys hemorrhage money and have a very narrow window for success. SpaceX was one failed launch away from bankruptcy as recently as last year. Pulled resources and shared goals are also a problem. I’d prefer to have NASA running the show.
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NDub Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:07 AM
That’s really cool squawkbox.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:07 AM
I read a story during the days around the Curiosity landing that cited these statistics: Americans spend $7 billion annually on potato chips. The Mars Science Laboratory, which includes Curiosity, costs $2.5 billion. Total.
easy solution
1. NASA Buys Frito Lays
2. Repackages Lays chips as “Mars Chips”
3. ???
4. Manned Exploration of Mars
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Coach Mike Woodson, Atlanta Hawks Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:08 AM
You could reel in America, the EU, and emerging markets like India and Brazil to lessen the financial burden on individual countries.
Something like ~75% of people in India don’t have refrigerators. They have other priorities.
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RexKramerDangerSeeker Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:09 AM
So Neil really said “Thats one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind”
Saw him speak at an event commemorating the 100th anniversary of powered flight and he reiterated that.
/fuck you, state of North Carolina
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:09 AM
Americans spend $7 billion annually on potato chips. The Mars Science Laboratory, which includes Curiosity, costs $2.5 billion. Total.
FUCK YOU BLOOMBERG I SHOULD BE ABLE TO EAT AS MUCH SHITTY FOOD AS I WANT. WHY ARE YOU TAKING AWAY MY POTATO CHIPS TO FUND YOUR STUPID MARTIAN ROCK HUNT YOU DICK!!!
Sincerely,
The Conservative Response to That Fact
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sousedbergin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:09 AM
Americans spend $7 billion annually on potato chips
You fat as fuck fat asses are fat as fuck and have fat asses.
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:14 AM
If any large percentage of that seven billion is spent on Pringles I’m gonna be pissed.
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heldover Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:15 AM
Can you imagine ANYONE (with the possible exception of Sir Richard Branson, who may just end up doing it anyway) having the stones to make a “We Choose to go to the Moon” speech in today’s environment?
Newt Gingrich wanted to put a colony on the moon. He was laughed it. I was going to suddenly turn around and support the guy, but he was THE ONLY one (Dem or Rep) to take an active position on space travel and exploration.
And we already have a “plan” to get on Mars by 2030. I want NASA to say something like, “Let the private industry focus on NEO and ISS vacations and asteroid mining. We’re going to put a man on Mars in 10 years.”
That’d get my “America! Fuck Yeah!” boner and “Science is AWESOME!” boner to cross-breed.
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NDub Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Check out this shit, guys. NASA’s annual budget and its percentage of the federal budget.
It’s less than half of one percent of the 2012 federal budget.
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sousedbergin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:18 AM
Americans spend $7 billion annually on potato chips
$22 per person per year.
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NDub Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:18 AM
Newt Gingrich wanted to put a colony on the moon. He was laughed it. I was going to suddenly turn around and support the guy, but he was THE ONLY one (Dem or Rep) to take an active position on space travel and exploration.
And we already have a “plan” to get on Mars by 2030. I want NASA to say something like, “Let the private industry focus on NEO and ISS vacations and asteroid mining. We’re going to put a man on Mars in 10 years.”
That’d get my “America! Fuck Yeah!” boner and “Science is AWESOME!” boner to cross-breed.
A Moon colony is cool and all, but I “laughed” at him because I think we need to go further than that. Mars, asteroids, fucking Europa or Titan, etc. But I did appreciate him taking a position and showing initiative. I really did.
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:19 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy_theories
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sousedbergin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:21 AM
A Moon colony is cool
Needs:
1. Whiskey
2. A pool
3. Really fast internet
As a potential moon colonist those are my demands.
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Let’s say Mars gets colonized — would you go? The caveat is that you can never come back to Earth.
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NDub Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Anyone seen the film “Moon”? Fucking fantastic. Sam Rockwell was awesome and Duncan Jones made a helluva movie with a limited budget.
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NDub Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:24 AM
Let’s say Mars gets colonized — would you go? The caveat is that you can never come back to Earth.
There’s a lot to that. Are other people already living there? If so, have they lived there for a decade or three? Or am I going as a person in the first colony?
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molemaninthemorning Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:25 AM
/fuck you, state of North Carolina
lol @ Ohio and their air balloon claim.
It’s on our license plate, bitch. DEAL WITH IT
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:25 AM
There’s a lot to that. Are other people already living there? If so, have they lived there for a decade or three? Or am I going as a person in the first colony?
In this hypothetical you are in the second wave of people going. Between 2-5 years after the initial growing pains or Mars colonization.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Gingrich says crazy things all the time. I laughed at him not because it was necessarily a bad idea (although I don’t think we need a moon colony), but because it was just another nutso statement with no hint of follow through.
Aldrin punching the conspiracy nut job in the face is glorious.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Let’s say Mars gets colonized — would you go? The caveat is that you can never come back to Earth.
If i had no family and was in my 40′s, definitely would go.
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squawkbox Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Tang (not the drink, that is) >>>> potato chips
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Crist is still just ticked that Rubio kicked his a$$. He was the king of the RINO’s.
On another note I can’t wait to comne to this site the day after the election when Romney has won. So much fun.
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:30 AM
come*
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Anyone seen the film “Moon”? Fucking fantastic. Sam Rockwell was awesome and Duncan Jones made a helluva movie with a limited budget.
Moon owns. Rockwell totally robbed of a Best Actor nomination.
To those having the Would You Go? conversation: read Red Mars. Scarily realistic exploration of the topic. In short, the first people there get mighty irritated when the rest of the world begins to arrive.
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heldover Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:30 AM
In this hypothetical you are in the second wave of people going. Between 2-5 years after the initial growing pains or Mars colonization.
How many people were in the first wave and how many are in this second wave? I mean, I’m already married, so my answer is unfortunately “no,” but what other specifics can you lay out there?
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Der Kaiser Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
On another note I can’t wait to comne to this site the day after the election when Romney has won. So much fun.
Will you also show up if Obama wins?
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:33 AM
Will you also show up when Obama wins?
Gotta be realistic.
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sousedbergin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:33 AM
I can’t wait to comne to this site the day after the election when Romney has won
I bet $50 that Obama wins. If you are not a fucking commie you will take this bet.
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:34 AM
Will you also show up if Obama wins?
Oh yes. Must. Have. Roundup.
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:36 AM
Let’s say Mars gets colonized — would you go? The caveat is that you can never come back to Earth.
Yes, for the 3-boobed hookers.
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cracker jack Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:37 AM
Let’s say Mars gets colonized — would you go? The caveat is that you can never come back to Earth.
Um, is someone going to make the atmosphere liveable? If so, ok.
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cracker jack Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:38 AM
The average recorded temperature on Mars is -63° C (-81° F) with a maximum temperature of 20° C (68° F) and a minimum of -140° C (-220° F).
We’re gonna have to bring some of our global warming abilities with us to Mars to make it comfortable.
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:38 AM
How many people were in the first wave and how many are in this second wave? I mean, I’m already married, so my answer is unfortunately “no,” but what other specifics can you lay out there?
500 people went first. You are part of the next 500. Less than half died on the first trip, but you are assured the survival rate of the next 500 should be better.
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Also, some people at work are talking about this “2016″ doc about “Obama’s secret agenda” (actual quote from co worker). Is this like a opposite Michael Moore doc?
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NDub Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:40 AM
500 people went first. You are part of the next 500. Less than half died on the first trip, but you are assured the survival rate of the next 500 should be better.
And this is free? Like, I just do some training and education about life there and I’m on my way? Also, what do I do when I live there? Because, yes, living on Mars is cool, but I gotta find ways to occupy my time. Am I working? What do the rest of the people do?
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phillymantis915 Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
I bet $50 that Obama wins. If you are not a fucking commie you will take this bet.
Obama is winning with 300+ electoral votes.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
On another note I can’t wait to comne to this site the day after the election when Romney has won. So much fun.
guess you’re buying into the RNC coverage, huh?
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cracker jack Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Also, some people at work are talking about this “2016″ doc about “Obama’s secret agenda” (actual quote from co worker). Is this like a opposite Michael Moore doc?
For sure this is Obama’s Fahrenheit 911
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NDub Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Also, some people at work are talking about this “2016″ doc about “Obama’s secret agenda” (actual quote from co worker). Is this like a opposite Michael Moore doc?
Ask ImJustSayin. He strikes me as the type of asshole who’d be easily influenced by right wing extremist views.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:43 AM
500 people went first. You are part of the next 500. Less than half died on the first trip, but you are assured the survival rate of the next 500 should be better.
what happened to the ones who died? Was it radiation? Did it turn them to mutant zombies, and my time on Mars would be leader of the Zombie Eradication Team, building custom weapons from scientific gear in attempts to prevent the zombie horde from overrunning the rest of the colonists?
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Jim Harbaugh Scramble Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:44 AM
guess you’re buying into the RNC coverage, huh?
Rear naked choke?
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
And this is free? Like, I just do some training and education about life there and I’m on my way? Also, what do I do when I live there? Because, yes, living on Mars is cool, but I gotta find ways to occupy my time. Am I working? What do the rest of the people do?
Is it ok if I end this hypothetical? I am not this creative with sci-fi stuff.
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Der Kaiser Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Also, some people at work are talking about this “2016″ doc about “Obama’s secret agenda” (actual quote from co worker). Is this like a opposite Michael Moore doc?
Dinesh D’Souza is a vile creature.
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sousedbergin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
I bet $50 that Obama wins. If you are not a fucking commie you will take this bet.
Obama is winning with 300+ electoral votes.
Unless he starts publicly banging white high-school girls it’s a lock.
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NDub Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Is it ok if I end this hypothetical? I am not this creative with sci-fi stuff.
Ha ha! Had you answered those questions, there’s no doubt I’d have more.
How about this: If given the opportunity today to go to Mars as the second colony of 500 people, after half of the previous 500 died, I would not go. Regardless if assured survival rate is about 80% this time around. Even if this was the only chance of my life, I wouldn’t do it.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:48 AM
And this is free? Like, I just do some training and education about life there and I’m on my way? Also, what do I do when I live there? Because, yes, living on Mars is cool, but I gotta find ways to occupy my time. Am I working? What do the rest of the people do?
Is it ok if I end this hypothetical? I am not this creative with sci-fi stuff.
Nope, let’s keep it rolling.
Let’s say you’re a solar panel engineer and you have a lot of free time to spend in the underground grotto’s the scientists built to house their orgies.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:50 AM
What if the Earth was in bad shape and getting worse (10 billion+ population, food and water shortages, fossil fuel scarcity, massive poverty)? Would that sway your vote?
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:51 AM
Unless he starts publicly banging white high-school girls it’s a lock.
What do you think the percentage of people who would vote for him because of this be? 3%? 5%?
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:51 AM
My gosh you people are going to freak out when Romney wins. And I haven’t seen 2016 yet but definitely plan on it. Can’t wait in fact.
But by all means just keep reading the NY Times and watching MSNBC. A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
As for the Mars thing — I saw this question on Reddit awhile back, not many details. But I would agree with NDub’s logic, I don’t think I would with those chances.
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cracker jack Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Ok, are we just going to ignore that Mars is unliveable in these hypotheticals? Are we creating underground fortresses there or something? Bio domes?
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
We’re gonna have to bring some of our global warming abilities with us to Mars to make it comfortable.
The Ohio GOP candidate (Mandel) just came out and said the science on global warming was sketchy.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
What if the Earth was in bad shape and getting worse (10 billion+ population, food and water shortages, fossil fuel scarcity, massive poverty)? Would that sway your vote?
at that point i’d go just so i can build a new government, abolish the two party system.
although i’d be stuck with ron paul acolytes in most cases.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
Ok, are we just going to ignore that Mars is unliveable in these hypotheticals? Are we creating underground fortresses there or something? Bio domes?
We’re assuming livable biomes with terraforming to begin immediately.
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sousedbergin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
But by all means just keep reading the NY Times and watching MSNBC. A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.
Make the bet you pussy.
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NDub Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:55 AM
CJ – We’re not just sending people there unprepared. If there’s colonies of citizens going, that means the base for livability has been established. The technology and resources are there.
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Make the bet you pussy.
Freak out engaged!
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NDub Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
ImJustTrollin
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mizerle06 is sarah phillips Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
while the most interest we have in real science will be limited to people sharing a pithy alien picture George Takei’s intern just found on a four month old tumblr post.
link to picture?
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
My gosh you people are going to freak out when Romney wins. And I haven’t seen 2016 yet but definitely plan on it. Can’t wait in fact.
dude’s got a long way to go and he hasn’t even had to debate his positions yet. a lot of things can happen, but there was a time when it looked like John Kerry was a lock to beat GWB
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:03 AM
Romney is going to get is privileged ass handed to him in the debates. Cannot wait to see him try and defend his asinine positions against someone with skills and intelligence. Almost as funny as him trying to relate to ordinary people.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Also, what is 2016? Is this like Obama’s Swift Boat thing?
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phillymantis915 Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:05 AM
Romney also has a major disadvantage in getting the electoral votes needed. No way is he winning PA, OH, MI, WI, VA, CO, NV or even FL once the seniors find out how fucked they would be under the Ryan voucher program.
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Rodney King's Pool Cleaners Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:07 AM
“Romney also has a major disadvantage in getting the electoral votes needed. No way is he winning PA, OH, MI, WI, VA, CO, NV or even FL once the seniors find out how fucked they would be under the Ryan voucher program.”
Congratulations on accurate recital of your Obama talking points. You, sir, are an uninformed idiot.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:07 AM
I think he’s got a chance in PA and VA, particularly the latter. The GOP’s voter disenfranchisement program will keep a lot of Democrats from voting in PA, and Romney/his billionaire backers are throwing a ton of money into VA.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:08 AM
Romney is going to get is privileged ass handed to him in the debates. Cannot wait to see him try and defend his asinine positions against someone with skills and intelligence. Almost as funny as him trying to relate to ordinary people.
he hasn’t had to go into detail about his plans, the less he does the more you’ll hear the democrats say he knows his positions are so out of touch he won’t tell you what they are until he’s already been elected, for fear of not getting your vote.
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:08 AM
Romney is going to get is privileged ass handed to him in the debates. Cannot wait to see him try and defend his asinine positions against someone with skills and intelligence. Almost as funny as him trying to relate to ordinary people.
This is going to be a HUGE problem for Romney. Though hopefully he does that really bizzare “full turn face the person who is talking to me” move that he did at the GOP debates.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:12 AM
I think he’s got a chance in PA and VA, particularly the latter. The GOP’s voter disenfranchisement program will keep a lot of Democrats from voting in PA, and Romney/his billionaire backers are throwing a ton of money into VA.
if the disenfranchised voters play a role, it will be a larger legal battle than 2000 was, seeing as how it’s illegal for a state to do so, the election will be contested for a long time. I’d be surprised if the supreme court got involved and essentially said the voting rights act and the 15th amendment was null and void
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Romney is going to get is privileged ass handed to him in the debates. Cannot wait to see him try and defend his asinine positions against someone with skills and intelligence. Almost as funny as him trying to relate to ordinary people.
So does this mean Obama is going to use his teleprompter on stage? Otherwise he’ll be telling people they “didn’t build that”. No, Obama has been a failure and he is going to lose. And the day after will be fun.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:13 AM
he hasn’t had to go into detail about his plans, the less he does the more you’ll hear the democrats say he knows his positions are so out of touch he won’t tell you what they are until he’s already been elected, for fear of not getting your vote.
He’s going to get pressed in the debates. He’ll have to come up with something outside of talking points.
And god forbid his tax returns leak before the election. That happens and he loses by a modern partisan political environment landslide.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:14 AM
So does this mean Obama is going to use his teleprompter on stage? Otherwise he’ll be telling people they “didn’t build that”. No, Obama has been a failure and he is going to lose. And the day after will be fun.
This guy is like PurdueMatt with down syndrome.
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NDub Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:15 AM
This is going to be a HUGE problem for Romney. Though hopefully he does that really bizzare “full turn face the person who is talking to me” move that he did at the GOP debates.
“I’ll tell you what. Ten-thousand bucks? Ten-thousand-dollar bet?”
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:16 AM
No, Obama has been a failure and he is going to lose.
bet you think we’d be better off if the bailout didn’t happen and the recession turned into a depression, too, right?
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
The best Mitt Romney moment was the “who let the dogs out” quote when he was taking a picture with the black girls. Yes it was from 2008 — doesn’t mean it’s not awesome.
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phillymantis915 Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
I think he’s got a chance in PA and VA, particularly the latter. The GOP’s voter disenfranchisement program will keep a lot of Democrats from voting in PA, and Romney/his billionaire backers are throwing a ton of money into VA.
Obama has a 9 point lead in PA. I don’t think he needs to worry.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Obama gets to hit Romney in the debates about the tax returns, right? After all the birther nonsense perpetrated by a diseased racist subculture and endorsed by the GOP, he’s well within his rights to demand Romney release his returns, right, and hammer him if he doesn’t?
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
bet you think we’d be better off if the bailout didn’t happen and the recession turned into a depression, too, right?
Truthfully no. TARP was unfortunately necessary. The stimulus on the other hand might has well have been flushed down the toilet.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Obama has a 9 point lead in PA. I don’t think he needs to worry.
Registered or likely voters? Because likely matters a hell of a lot more.
Obama has a 70 percent chance of winning in 538s models with PA, VA and Ohio light blue (FL, NC, MO are red).
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A.P. Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Obama and romney are both shitty candidates
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
Obama gets to hit Romney in the debates about the tax returns, right? After all the birther nonsense perpetrated by a diseased racist subculture and endorsed by the GOP, he’s well within his rights to demand Romney release his returns, right, and hammer him if he doesn’t?
Do you really think people care that Romney hasn’t released his tax returns? Really? And I mean people besides the normal MSNBC audience. If that is the “smoking gun” then this election will end up being easier for Romney than I thought.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:23 AM
Truthfully no. TARP was unfortunately necessary. The stimulus on the other hand might has well have been flushed down the toilet.
do you want to provide any details how obama failed? i’m always curious about this sort of thing.
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:23 AM
Do you really think people care that Romney hasn’t released his tax returns?
Clearly the Romney campaign cares.
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:23 AM
Obama has a 70 percent chance of winning in 538s models with PA, VA and Ohio light blue (FL, NC, MO are red).
538 is Nate Silver right? Yeah, he is the New York Times way of telling lefties what they want and need to hear.
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ol' scrappy grinder Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:23 AM
The best Mitt Romney moment was the “who let the dogs out” quote when he was taking a picture with the black girls. Yes it was from 2008 — doesn’t mean it’s not awesome.
That was outstanding. But at least Mitt v1.7 wen’t out of his way to court non-white votes at that time. v2.1′s idea of minorities is old white people who drive Caddys and smoke Kools.
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phillymantis915 Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Registered or likely voters? Because likely matters a hell of a lot more.
Registered. Inquirer did a poll last week that got 9. All other polls have been around 7-8. Obama has huge advantage in SE PA.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Do you really think people care that Romney hasn’t released his tax returns? Really? And I mean people besides the normal MSNBC audience. If that is the “smoking gun” then this election will end up being easier for Romney than I thought.
I think that if Romney is found to have paid no taxes on tens of millions of dollars of annual income, that’s the nail in the coffin. I already think he’s done but that would destroy any remaining credibility he has with anyone outside the far right.
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
I think that if Romney is found to have paid no taxes on tens of millions of dollars of annual income, that’s the nail in the coffin. I already think he’s done but that would destroy any remaining credibility he has with anyone outside the far right.
Oh, hello Harry Reid. Are those voices talking to you again?
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:27 AM
538 is Nate Silver right? Yeah, he is the New York Times way of telling lefties what they want and need to hear.
This guy is awesome.
Philly, I think PA is close. That 9-point registered voter advantage probably only translates to a 3 or 4 point lead among likely. He’ll probably win but you’re going to see a lot of GOP “volunteers” in the cities kicking anyone they can off the rolls. They’ll make sure every ID is checked, lines remain long, and as few people as possible get to cast their votes.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Do you really think people care that Romney hasn’t released his tax returns? Really? And I mean people besides the normal MSNBC audience. If that is the “smoking gun” then this election will end up being easier for Romney than I thought.
it’s about perception, it doesn’t take much to paint him as having something to hide, and how can you trust this man if he won’t be truthful. also, if he used tax loopholes to actually avoid paying taxes… that’s definitely not going to play well
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Queefer — I’ve been reading the wiki pages of the Red Mars books, looks pretty sweet
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cracker jack Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Registered. Inquirer did a poll last week that got 9. All other polls have been around 7-8. Obama has huge advantage in SE PA.
Arent there registered voters in PA who dont have current IDs?
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
it’s about perception, it doesn’t take much to paint him as having something to hide, and how can you trust this man if he won’t be truthful. also, if he used tax loopholes to actually avoid paying taxes… that’s definitely not going to play well
Again, this plays to your lefty crowd. MSNBC is all about tax returns. But every time folks are polled about what is most important to them this election #1 is economy and #2 is deficits. Romney leads on both issues comfortably. Everything else is just backgound noise.
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phillymantis915 Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
Arent there registered voters in PA who dont have current IDs?
The Inqy poll was specific in that they only polled voters who had current IDs.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
Queefer — I’ve been reading the wiki pages of the Red Mars books, looks pretty sweet
Its a very interesting read that unfortunately tends to forget its a novel and not a textbook at times. The ideas put forth are fascinating and extremely realistic, everything from the science behind the planet to the actions of the characters. But then he’ll spend 20 pages talking about Mars’ geography or 10 pages on ice formations. It becomes really hard to establish momentum. I finished the first one more out of obligation than actual desire, and didn’t have it in me to keep going. I’ll probably take another shot at the sequels sometime down the road.
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
but there was a time when it looked like John Kerry was a lock to beat GWB
Has there ever been any talk of why they didn’t go upside on the Swift Boat group? Vintage misdirection if ever.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Arent there registered voters in PA who dont have current IDs?
About 700,000, yes.
But every time folks are polled about what is most important to them this election #1 is economy and #2 is deficits. Romney leads on both issues comfortably.
One, that’s not true, and two, then why isn’t he leading in the polls of, say, who people want to be president?
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Also, PA is not necessary for a Romney win. If he did win there this will be over early on election night. Ohio, Florida, Virginia will be the keys to Romney victory.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Again, this plays to your lefty crowd. MSNBC is all about tax returns. But every time folks are polled about what is most important to them this election #1 is economy and #2 is deficits. Romney leads on both issues comfortably. Everything else is just backgound noise.
not really, voters aren’t going to vote for someone they don’t have a good feeling about. and if they aren’t 100% sure about Romney they won’t “switch horses in midstream”.
besides, Romney/Ryan are getting almost 0% of the black vote and an equally low number of hispanics, and women who aren’t already card carrying members of pro life groups won’t vote for him. Seniors who rely on medicare/medicaid will get the messaging that romney/ryan will want to take their away.
that’s not the strategy to win if you start to alienate voters to appeal to a small section of your base.
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
One, that’s not true, and two, then why isn’t he leading in the polls of, say, who people want to be president?
Polls are actually pretty much tied now, and Romney has much more upside at this point. And Obama is not going to “school” Romney in the debates. Do you really believe this? Romney will also have much more money to spend now that convention is over.
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mizerle06 is sarah phillips Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
“The overall decline [in household income] since June 2009 was larger than the 2.6 percent decline that occurred” during the recession from December 2007 to June 2009. For household income, in other words, the Obama recovery has been worse than the Bush recession.
…
The new income data reveal other eye-opening trends. The group that has suffered the most during the Obama Presidency has been black Americans, whose real incomes have fallen by more than 11%.
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Every age group has seen a decline in income—except the elderly. Those between the ages of 65 and 75 saw an average 6.5% gain in income, though most are not working and collect Medicare and Social Security.
the good news for Obama is he’s running against Mitt Romney.
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
I’m stil convinced a moderate republican would win the presidency every time.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
The GOP will win white Christian voters and that’s it. Obama will annihilate him in the popular vote and win the electoral vote by 3-4 percent. Dems keep the Senate thank to the GOP’s endless folly of nominating crazy people for political office and gain some margin back in the House.
To anyone who doesn’t hate Obama, Romney comes off as a fraud of the highest order: a career political trust-fund baby with no core to speak of. Likability is huge in an election, and Romney simply isn’t likable, even to Republicans, who will nonetheless hold their noses and pull the lever because they hate that a smart black guy is sitting in the chair.
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scripty Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Let me save you some time:
post GOP convention – Romney gains points
post DEM convention – Obama gets some/more points back
Need to wait til the debates and just see how OH and FL are going. At one point the Indians and Orioles were on pace to win their divisions.
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
I’m stil convinced a moderate republican would win the presidency every time.
McCain and Dole pretty much destroyed this theory.
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spencer096 Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
romney must die.
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Nada Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Tang (the drink, that is)
Chicks must really dig astronauts, ’cause it says here that astronauts get all the tang they want.
/ Kelso’d
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Man QueeferSutherland is a true believer. Dude you need to get out more around the country. You’re living in a bubble apparently.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
I’m stil convinced a moderate republican would win the presidency every time.
As am I, although the current Democratic platform is essentially moderate conservatism.
Also, right-wingbat: the polls are not essentially tied (70 percent chance of winning according to the esteemed 538), and how does Romney have more upside? His convention is first so Obama gets the last word and poll bump, he hasn’t gotten his ass kicked in the debates yet, and he has three months for his return to leak/continue to look like a rich asshole.
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Nada Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
I’m stil convinced a moderate republican would win the presidency every time.
McCain and Dole pretty much destroyed this theory.
McCain and Dole both veered hard to the right during the primaries to win over the wingnuts, and it cost them in the general election, IMO.
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
esteemed 538
Now that is high comedy
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sousedbergin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
The only base Romney had was the elderly and he alienated them with Paul Ryan.
The way the tea party and GOP have treated women is going to hand deliver this election to Obama.
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heldover Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
The first Wednesday in November’s Roundup will be EPIC.
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Grizz Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
McCain and Dole both veered hard to the right during the primaries to win over the wingnuts, and it cost them in the general election, IMO.
This is what I’m saying — I am a registered Republican, but I am having a hard time convincing myself to vote for Willard.
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
The first Wednesday in November’s Roundup will be EPIC.
Truer words were never spoken. QueeferSutherland will need to be checked on by some of you people.
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ThatsSoTaguchi (Now With Zip) Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
Truer words were never spoken. QueeferSutherland will need to be checked on by some of you people.</em>
What you saying exactly?
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ThatsSoTaguchi (Now With Zip) Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
boo this man. boo him.
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sousedbergin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
boooooooooooooooooooo
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ImJustSayin Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Dog whistles going off!!!!!!
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:59 AM
I am having a hard time convincing myself to vote for Willard.
When the name Mitt is preferable to something else, you know your parents really did you wrong.
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Walking Underwear Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:59 AM
amazing to me that there had been no fatal bear attacks in denali in its 100-year history
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Mantis Toboggan Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 11:59 AM
Dems keep the Senate thank to the GOP’s endless folly of nominating crazy people for political office and gain some margin back in the House.
Agreed it’s a tragedy that Linda McMahon has a chance to be an United States senator.
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Nada Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
amazing to me that there had been no fatal bear attacks in denali in its 100-year history
No one was ever stupid enough to creep up on a grizzly for a photo before.
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Walking Underwear Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
The first Wednesday in November’s Roundup will be EPIC.
the one oct. 8 should be fun
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Sharron Angle, Todd Akin, Rand Paul, Linda McMahon, Herman Cain, Rick Santorum, Allen West, Michelle Bachmann, James Inhofe
MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY REPRESENT THIS COUNTRY IN GOVERNMENT POSITIONS HOW THE FUCK IS THIS POSSIBLE????
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Romney talked to Politico today about his governing plan. No specifics, but some pathetic attempts to pretend he cares about women, including this gem:
His Cabinet would be dominated by people from the private sector, citing Meg Whitman of Hewlett-Packard as a model for female leaders he would like to surround himself with. Debra L. Lee, the CEO of Black Entertainment Television, is also a leader he would take a close look at, though he couldn’t recall her name, just her title: “From all reports, a highly effective manager.”
“Yeah, I can’t remember her name, but its that black woman my pollsters told me to mention.”
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Walking Underwear Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 12:12 PM
No one was ever stupid enough to creep up on a grizzly for a photo before.
i doubt this. some lucky folks, as well as most that actually take the precautions prescribed
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heldover Says:
August 27th, 2012 at 12:21 PM
I’m stil convinced a moderate republican would win the presidency every time.
I’d buy that for a dollar.