John Clayton Has Mark Sanchez Just Ahead of Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III in his QB Rankings
John Clayton has his always entertaining Quarterback rankings out. Last year, he declared Joe Flacco an elite quarterback. We learn in his column that he views “Elite” as quarterbacks who can throw for 4,000 or more yards and elevate their team to the playoffs. Clayton then notes that 4 of his 5 healthy elite quarterbacks made the playoffs last year (thank you Norv Turner face) and 5 of his NFC Elite passers were in the postseason.
Of course, this is hindsight bias. His “elite” passers last year did not produce as well, with Josh Freeman, and Stafford wasn’t in the group a year ago. In hindsight, yes, the quarterbacks that Clayton calls elite made the playoffs. There is a large difference between Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady, and the guys toward the bottom of the “Elite.”
So, he probably gets some of the correlation and causation mixed up. Elite quarterbacks play with good defenses. Cam Newton, who threw for 4,000+ yards as a rookie, is somehow not elite as the #1 overall pick moving into year two, because his defense was dreadful last year. (5th in points scored, but 27th in points allowed in 2011). Jay Cutler is apparently not elite because it would ruin this playoff narrative. The Bears were on target for the playoffs until Cutler stopped being the starter because of injury and Caleb Hanie happened. Cutler didn’t lead them there = not elite, I guess.
Further down, the list, though, is the most bizarre ordering. Mark Sanchez is at 23rd. Andrew Luck is at 24th. Robert Griffin III is at 25th. Is there literally anyone who would take Sanchez over those two right now? I’m not even talking future development, differences in salary or anything like that. I know they have not taken a snap yet in a NFL regular season game, but I’d like to think that the choice of Luck over Sanchez (hypothetically if the Jets were given such a choice) would be made faster than Rex Ryan could get his socks on.
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August 23rd, 2012 at 3:18 PM
WE’RE NOT LAST! WE’RE NOT LAST! WE’RE NOT LAST!
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Big Grey is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to high in Clayton’s ratings.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Is there literally anyone who would take Sanchez over those two right now? I’m not even talking future development, differences in salary or anything like that. I know they have not taken a snap yet in a NFL regular season game, but I’d like to think that the choice of Luck over Sanchez (hypothetically if the Jets were given such a choice) would be made faster than Rex Ryan could get his socks on. Lisk
Are you trying to make your boss cry?
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:19 PM
but when he’s standing next to flynn…by golly…that’s the 27th best qb in the NFL!!!
what a hack.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:20 PM
well…there is at least one person who thinks Sanchez is a top 8 qb….
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:20 PM
Was good to know you Lisk
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:21 PM
shit, i wouldnt take sanchez over weeden. that’d be a gross step backwards.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:21 PM
Captain Checkdown, Sir Floats Alot, and Romo ahead of Stafford? Did Vlad write this list?
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:22 PM
Stafford and Cutler are better than Vick, Schaub, and Matt fucking Ryan.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:22 PM
Where is TBL!
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:23 PM
/next page…ranks 3rd rounder above two first round picks
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Nice to see Krang doing some work to piss everyone off.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:24 PM
hahaha.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:24 PM
there are like three “down” arrows on that entire list. are you sure gruden didn’t write that?
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:24 PM
he’s going to fire faster fastballs at ray rice’s feet?
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:26 PM
after dissing him after winning the super bowl, it’s time to give aaron rodgers credit the year after he didn’t.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:26 PM
Bert will shrug and then throw the old Donovan McNabb special on a crossing route.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:28 PM
WHAT?
has clayton ever seen matt ryan play? he’s never been an up-tempo no huddle guy.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:28 PM
This is just stupid.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:28 PM
he’s going to fire faster fastballs at ray rice’s feet?
translation: more game changing INTs and looks of disgust from ray-ray and reed.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:29 PM
He is taking more ownership of the offense and plans to be more aggressive through the air.
i meant that phrase.
/crap
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:30 PM
I would pay hundreds to see ray-ray or Reed beat the crap out of Flacco after he blows another game.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:31 PM
/ Reads caption
// Stands
/// Applauds
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:31 PM
i love how baby hands’ arrow is now pointing up even after five previous seasons where that arrow was nose deep in the ground.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:32 PM
yep…mcdaniels’ and his high volume offense that ran a ton of plays won’t be as successful as brian schottenheimer’s grind it out offense that didnt put many points on the board with decent players on offense.
clayton mustve been high on crack when he wrote this.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:33 PM
Ray-Ray can make more than a simple beating happen.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:33 PM
And braiding his rat tail.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:34 PM
Nah, that’s just normal Clayton.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:35 PM
Jim Leyland’s a pussy if he doesn’t keep Verlander out there for the 10th if the Tigers don’t win it in the bottom on the 9th.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:36 PM
clayton mustve been high on crack when he wrote this.
Professor crack
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Wait until the opening kickoff, then the Browns can assume their rightful place in the NFL heirarchy.
/ Which is last
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:37 PM
I love that the arrow is down on Gabbert. He has looked phenomenal in this preseason. At the very list the arrow should be up because Gabbert can’t be any worse than last season. In sum, fuck John Clayton.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:38 PM
as long as jax and STL are around, the browns will always be 3rd last.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:38 PM
Daunte Culpepper is on his list?!?
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:38 PM
I could see maybe an argument to be made on the “this guy sucks so bad maybe the opposite works out and it clicks this year” principle.
But this is Mark Sanchez we’re talking about. 5.5 YPA and a cloud of dust.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:39 PM
After Namath, the least-deserving member of the Pro Football HOF.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:39 PM
John Clayton is the Dick Morris of football analysts. Mysteriously employed, always wrong, ridiculous hair.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:39 PM
Ponder actually made the list?
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:41 PM
BABY STEPS!
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:42 PM
please…lynn swann is CLEARLY the least deserving member.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:43 PM
spare me the crap about era’s…swann had 336 catches in his career, or as anquan boldin or larry fitzgerald or cris carter or TO call “a decent three year stretch.”
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:45 PM
marvin harrison wont get in because he’s a thug and quiet, TO won’t get in because he’s a diva and cris carter won’t get in because of prejudice, but lynn fucking swann and his 336 career cateches is in because of two SB catches and being media friendly.
god damnit fuck the steelers so fuckign much.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:46 PM
how many steeler fans does it take to change a tire?
none unless it’s a blowout, in which case they’ll all show up.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:47 PM
how do you castrate a steeler fan?
kick his sister in the chin.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:49 PM
Swann got in, but Drew Pearson won’t. That’s a fucking crime.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:49 PM
Spence, don’t forget about Stallworth.
Also, Jan Stenerud. So what if he was kicking sheep bladders full of concrete. The Chefs are the most over-represented team in the Hall comparative to actual success.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:49 PM
what do you call cheese that’s not yours?
nacho cheese
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:49 PM
what’s the difference between roadkill and steeler fans?
the skid marks are in front of the roadkill.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:50 PM
After Namath, the least-deserving member of the Pro Football HOF
most overrated piece of shit in the nfl HOF.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:51 PM
honestly, it depends on the direction your coming from.
/no homo
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:52 PM
also no business in the HOF: Franco Harris
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:52 PM
how do you castrate a steeler fan?
kick his sister in the chin.
nicely done.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:52 PM
what’s the difference between an nba player and an elevator?
an elevator can raise a child.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:52 PM
Maybe Pearson should shove the voters in the back as they’re voting.
/before my time and I still hate him
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:57 PM
Awesome…
/stealing this
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:00 PM
People wouldn’t hold it against him if he hadn’t always been catching the touchdowns.
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:02 PM
I watched that game and can still taste the sick in my mouth.
/ Oh, yeah, Aikman doesn’t belong either
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:03 PM
amen…one of the most overrated QB’s of all time.
now ken anderson? he deserves it even though, fuck the bengals.
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:06 PM
Could some kind Giants’ fan remind me if it is possible to spell the word ‘elite’ without using the letters in their QB’s first name?
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:06 PM
Boomer > Bernie
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:07 PM
But he’s from Norway!
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:08 PM
that’s horseshit…bernie’s genes dont make his kids autistic, his make his kids pornstars.
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:10 PM
/takes out calculator
//applies transitive relationships
Pornstars > Austic kids
///your math checks out, Spencer
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:10 PM
Could some kind Giants’ fan remind me if it is possible to spell the word ‘elite’ without using the letters in their QB’s first name?
Try a Yahoo message board.
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:11 PM
Lynn Swann is in the Hall because writers/voters sometimes believe the only time a player plays in a game is during the Super Bowl. Body of work is thrown out the window and Lynn Swann’s is terrible. Meanwhile, Andre Reed and Cris Carter are the top 5 most prolific WR ever and don’t get a sniff.
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:12 PM
No love for Ray Guy? Jeff Feagles might get in as well.
/lobbying for the grossly underrepresented.
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:22 PM
Shane Lechler oughta go in when he’s done booting punts into the stratosphere at sea level.
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:23 PM
Not enough Niners in the hall for my liking.
/glares at Cowboy fans
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:29 PM
/checks wikipedia
/realizes there is more Niners than Cowboys in the hall
/Joe Montana is the GOAT
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:33 PM
Agreed, on both counts.
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:34 PM
I thought Sylvia was the goat?
/ Albee’d
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:36 PM
Ray Guy’s career is an example of typical Raiders organizational bluster. Lechler’s twice the punter and Feagles could have a good case.