Michigan Winning the National Title Isn’t That Outrageous
Bob Asmussen of the Champaign News-Gazette had the audacity to rank the Michigan Wolverines as #1 in the AP Poll. The gall of that individual! How dare he not think exactly like everyone else? Michigan is ranked 8th by the collective wisdom of the AP voters, so they clearly have no chance. Everyone knows that it’s USC vs. the winner of Alabama and LSU.
By the way, the average preseason rank of the eventual national champion in the BCS championship era is 7.4. Five national champions since 1998 were ranked lower than Michigan this year: Tennessee in 1998 (10th), Oklahoma in 2000 (19th), Ohio State in 2002 (13th), LSU in 2003 (14th), and Auburn in 2010 (22nd). Florida in 2006 was ranked one spot higher than Michigan this year.
In fact, as many teams ranked 7th or lower have won national championships as those who were ranked in the top three. Yet, only two of the sixty voters put a team that did not finish in the top three in cumulative voting in their #1 spot. A team that was in the national championship game two years ago and won the Pac-12 last year did not get any first place votes – 25 fewer than another team from their conference. I’m going on record as picking Oregon to win the Pac-12.
Back to Michigan. Maybe Asmussen is completely off his rocker. Maybe the team he ranked number one won’t win the title. Based on recent history, though, there’s a good chance every voter is wrong. We don’t know nearly as much as we think we do. So kudos to you, Bob.
Previously: Bob Asmussen of Champaign News-Gazette Voted Michigan No. 1 in AP Poll
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August 20th, 2012 at 2:43 PM
Spartans > Wolverines
August 20th, 2012 at 2:44 PM
Sure it is.
And actually, it’s the winner of the 2nd USC/Oregon game vs the winner of LSU/Bama.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:45 PM
it’s completely outrageous. COMPLETELY.
you did not provide a single piece of legitimate evidence to support your outrageous claim. they lost their best defender on a defense without many good ones and im assuming denard robinson will still be charged with throwing in addition to running so…
horrible.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:45 PM
If Michigan wins the NC I’ll permanently change my gravatar to a block M.
/8-4
August 20th, 2012 at 2:45 PM
Nobody knows anything, so for idiots to get up in arms over someone’s best guess is pretty dumb.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:45 PM
i know, yes know, that michigan will not win the national championship this year.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:47 PM
The collective wisdom of all sportswriters thinks the Walmart Wolverines are the 8th best team in the land. If you knew ONLY that, it wouldn’t be outrageous to think they come out on top. Will they? Probably not.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:50 PM
it’s outrageous because of all the things not mentioned.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:50 PM
it’s completely outrageous. COMPLETELY.
you did not provide a single piece of legitimate evidence to support your outrageous claim. they lost their best defender on a defense without many good ones and im assuming denard robinson will still be charged with throwing in addition to running so…
horrible.
You’re horrible.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:51 PM
well, clearly im not understanding this concept of “only knowing the rankings” or whatever…anyways, my overall theme is fuck michigan.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:51 PM
Oh good an actual sports post! Thanks Lisk!
August 20th, 2012 at 2:52 PM
/shakes keys
August 20th, 2012 at 2:52 PM
Well, I’m confused.
The other day, TBL ran a post making fun of this guy for picking Michigan No. 1.
Today, TBL, runs a post defending this guy for picking Michigan No. 1.
Oh.
Silly me! It’s TBL.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:52 PM
cmon, seriously?
August 20th, 2012 at 2:52 PM
The problem with this whole post is that in no way should Michigan be anywhere near the top 10, right alone the top spot.
That defense will be picked apart again this year. They are the 5th best team in the Big 10. Wisky, Sparty, Brasky, and OSU are all better.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:53 PM
i know…i revel in it.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:53 PM
Someone thinking that Tennessee could win a championship going from Peyton Manning to Tee Martin at quarterback would have been an idiot.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:54 PM
Just the odds of any B1G team beating USC, LSU or Bama are zero, forget all the other factors.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:55 PM
You mean WhiteBoyChokey McGatorBait?
/narrative
August 20th, 2012 at 2:55 PM
Someone thinking that Tennessee could win a championship going from Peyton Manning to Tee Martin at quarterback would have been an idiot.
Ryan Leaf may not have the game management skills of Peyton Manning, but I’m telling you, he’s going to be a star in the NFL.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:55 PM
I think sportswriters got together and elected this guy to pick somebody outrageous to be #1 just so they could talk about that team being #1, and how preseason polls are dumb, with links to their own preseason polls, with no actual outrage or consequence since this guy will look prescient or foolish in WEEK ONE.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:55 PM
Fuck Clint Stoerner. Seriously, fuck that guy.
/Cost Ohio State’s best team ever a national championship
//Losing to Nick Satan didn’t help either
August 20th, 2012 at 2:56 PM
that someone should’ve taken a look at the rest of that insanely loaded team.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:56 PM
I ♥ Lisk
August 20th, 2012 at 2:56 PM
Same with Chris Todd to Cam Newton. Who saw that coming?
August 20th, 2012 at 2:56 PM
Speaking of “Gator”, I watched The Other Guys on Saturday. Holy shit what a terrible movie that was.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:57 PM
horrible.
You’re horrible.
I laughed.
I’m certain this post was just a ruse to get Maggs out of hiding.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:57 PM
Cleet receiving the “timeout” by the EIC is outrageous. What’s up with that nonsense?
August 20th, 2012 at 2:58 PM
Not really, cuz that defense was loaded.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:58 PM
He is football’s greatest arm punter, can’t think of any QB that I’ve said ‘that’s a terrible throw/decision’ only to have it be a 45 yard completion every single time.
/See vs Lady of the Lake or Spartans 2011
August 20th, 2012 at 2:58 PM
What did Cleet do? Besides have actual knowledge of how the NCAA works?
August 20th, 2012 at 2:58 PM
I’m certain this post was just a ruse to get Maggs out of hiding.
I would LOVE to see him return.
August 20th, 2012 at 2:58 PM
Go Irish
August 20th, 2012 at 2:58 PM
Someone got a time out?
August 20th, 2012 at 2:59 PM
Well, Spurrier did pick ‘em to win the CiTrUs Bowl.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:00 PM
What did Cleet do? Besides have actual knowledge of how the NCAA works?
He’s half-French.
/seriously, what did he do?
August 20th, 2012 at 3:00 PM
Wrong.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:00 PM
Cleet and Butters both.
I don’t get it.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:00 PM
GD Reggie Fish fielding a punt inside the 10 yard line sums up Houston Nutt’s tenure at Arkansas perfectly.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:00 PM
Sorry, it’s a reflex.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
HOKEAMANIA!!!!!!!!!!
August 20th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
Seriously, if Maggs were to return, that might make my day.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:02 PM
Cleet and Butters both.
My money is on St. Bear next.
/sorry, had to
August 20th, 2012 at 3:02 PM
What post did this time out happen in?
August 20th, 2012 at 3:02 PM
Briefly saw it on twitter. I think it’s because he made a mean remark about the Jets. Sounds about right.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:02 PM
This. Would have saved me a ton of grief over the last 6 years based on the Disaster in the Desert.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:03 PM
People still talk about the Jets? Oh, you mean to tell jokes! I get it now. What a freaking laughingstock that team is going to be.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:04 PM
Free Cleet!
Free Butters!
August 20th, 2012 at 3:04 PM
What post did this time out happen in?
Butters was last week. For something completely innocuous. He wasn’t being mean or anything. He was just asking TBL to clarify whatever point was made in the post.
No clue on Cleet.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:05 PM
that someone should’ve taken a look at the rest of that insanely loaded team.
That insanely loaded team was ranked 10th in the preseason poll, after finishing 7th the year before. It was Crystal Clear in hindsight, though.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:05 PM
I really wanted to take the under on them at 8 when I was in Vegas last week. Couldn’t pull the trigger and decided that money would be better spent on a new shirt instead.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:06 PM
butters got a time out? oh hamburgers.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:06 PM
Oh, fudge.
/ Braces for the banhammer based on multiple weekend comments
// Screw that, come and get me!
August 20th, 2012 at 3:07 PM
Briefly saw it on twitter. I think it’s because he made a mean remark about the Jets. Sounds about right.
Yep that sounds exactly right.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:09 PM
//raises fist in solidarity
August 20th, 2012 at 3:10 PM
Pshaw.
Michigan has about as much chance of winning the title as a black woman does of being accepted as a member by Augusta National.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:12 PM
dude, they lost their QB and c and returned everyone else from a team that lost to a #1 and #2 in 1997. there’s a case there that wasn’t just hindsight because they were truly a power at that point, something michigan is not. mich doesn’t have 4- and 5-star backups like tennessee had nor did they face a brutal gauntlet of a schedule.
im arguing about the wrong things today.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Doctors have told me you cannot get legitimately banned.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Yes….yes it is.
Lisk, love ya buddy, but this is the worst post you’ve contributed to this site. Nothing you say is untrue…but you build zero case for why Michigan is even remotely a contender. They aren’t. A minimum of three losses.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:13 PM
Doctors have told me you cannot get legitimately banned.
It’s a good time to be a Democrat in Missouri this week.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:14 PM
We expect facts! And charts! And graphs!
August 20th, 2012 at 3:15 PM
Clint fucking Stoerner fumbling had a lot to do with that.
lots of bad memories getting dug up here, assholes
August 20th, 2012 at 3:15 PM
The loss to Alabama will be early enough in the season that they can then backdoor their way into the NC game after an easy rest-of-season schedule.
/haven’t looked at their schedule
//Fuck Michigan
August 20th, 2012 at 3:15 PM
i think that’s my problem…his case is kinda “we just don’t know what’s going to happen” where im thinking, based on the title, that he’s going to be building a case as to why michigan could.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:16 PM
It will pass….
I see nothing but idiots in every direction I look in this state….and don’t get me started about the ones across the border.
/apologies to Lisk and KC Res
August 20th, 2012 at 3:16 PM
We expect facts! And charts! And graphs!
And squiggly red lines!
August 20th, 2012 at 3:16 PM
well, they gotta play wisconsin this year, unlike 2011. that’ll be fun without mike martin.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:18 PM
It will pass….
Yeah, rape comments by politicians that get picked up by national outlets don’t usually lead to major problems for a candidate.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:21 PM
I see nothing but idiots in every direction I look in this state….and don’t get me started about the ones across the border.
/apologies to Lisk and KC Res
Hey, leave Kansas out of this.
/Looks around.
Nevermind.
“It will pass….”
He will resign tomorrow. Or so I’ve read. McCaskill doing work.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Alabama Crimson Tide L
Air Force Falcons W
UMass Minutemen W
at Cunts W
at Purdue Boilermakers W
Illinois W
Michigan State Who the fuck knows?
at Nebraska W
at Minnesota Golden W
Northwestern Wildcats W
Iowa Hawkeyes W
Ohio State Buckeyes W
Whisky in the title game. 3 games go their way and the Alabama game is close I could see them in the mix.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
it’s going to make me feel so dirty cheering for Bama that first game of the season, but I’m going to have to do it. yuck.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
please…urban’s gonna stomp that shit like an annoying gnat.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
I think I am semi-banned. Some of my legitimate comments get through, while others do not. I know every one pops up as moderated, so I quietly head-nod Jason when one gets through.
Lisk – I take it that you are implying that Michigan can secure a place in the national championship game, thus they could technically win the title? I can agree with these hypothetical implications, but only when suspended in a vacuum devoid of roster assessments, schedule, and teams ahead of them in the rankings.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Good. Regardless of political affliation, idiots should not be allowed in to office. You don’t “mis-speak” in terms of something like this. You are just a fucking idiot. It’s just a shame that other fucking idiots are the ones voting.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
I’d love for them to come to the Shoe undefeated and have their shit handed to them.
I’d also love for them to come to the Shoe winless and have their shit handed to them.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Best rape-related politician: Todd Akin
Best rape-related athlete: Big Ben (edges Kobe)
Best rape-related band/song: Nirvana
August 20th, 2012 at 3:25 PM
YOUR MOM!
August 20th, 2012 at 3:25 PM
That’s some fine trolling. But Purdue is much better this year. MSU’s defense is still awesome. Nebraska has a better offense this year.
Michigan sucks. Deal with it.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:26 PM
The latest sounds like he will be staying in the race “We need a conservative senate”…and then, of course, asks for money.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:27 PM
I’m a huge Michigan fan and I just don’t see it.
The schedule is tough, there are huge question marks on the defensive line, and the defense wasn’t as good as the numbers looked at times last year. Michigan was also pretty lucky with fumble recoveries last year, so that should regress to mean a little.
Offensively, there isn’t a game breaker at WR, or really anyone who can get open against quality man coverage. Michigan has a lot of problem this year, but they still might be good enough to win their division. I think the point of this post should be preseason rankings are a pointless waste of time.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:27 PM
I want soused to do some color commentating on college football broadcasts coast to coast. He’d be like Bob Ueker meets Harry Carey meets Don Cherry meets Captain Morgan.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:29 PM
For those interested…
August 20th, 2012 at 3:29 PM
They probably lose to at least 2 of: Cunts, MSU, Wiconsin, OSU
August 20th, 2012 at 3:31 PM
Todd Akin @ToddAkin
I am in this race to win. We need a conservative Senate. Help me defeat Claire by donating:
For those interested…
Sounds about right.
If McCaskill holds this seat, this will be called Akin’s ‘macaca’ moment.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:32 PM
The latest sounds like he will be staying in the race “We need a conservative senate”…and then, of course, asks for money.
Not arguing. Just rehashing what I’ve read. All the national organizations are saying he won’t get their money for advertising.
I kind of hope he stays in. The Comedy meter may break.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:32 PM
If McCaskill holds this seat, this will be called Akin’s ‘macaca’ moment.
Too late.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:33 PM
Michigan just had the most fraudulent 11 win season this side of Boise.
/Kellen Moore sucks
August 20th, 2012 at 3:34 PM
I remember not too long ago when a South Carolina state senator used the n-word to refer to his opponent, and won re-election by his biggest margin ever.
Never underestimate the intelligence of the voting public.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:34 PM
I don’t care either way, excited about OSU, Mich ST games. Cunts will get blown out. A great deal of Michigan chances fall with how well Danny O’Brien can play.
It would be more Basil Marceaux meets Triumph the Insult Dog and just terrible.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:34 PM
If McCaskill holds this seat, this will be called Akin’s ‘macaca’ moment.
Too late.
Well I certainly feel less creative now.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:35 PM
Truth
August 20th, 2012 at 3:38 PM
…but Jackson Vahue was actually found guilty!!!!
August 20th, 2012 at 3:43 PM
Yeah! Make it so.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
Lisk, I didn’t know you could troll so hard. Well done.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:47 PM
ark –
Check out comment #22. You’ve seconded my hatred for Stoerner. Although for different end-game reasons…
August 20th, 2012 at 3:48 PM
Not so fast
August 20th, 2012 at 3:54 PM
Lisk, love ya buddy, but this is the worst post you’ve contributed to this site. Nothing you say is untrue…but you build zero case for why Michigan is even remotely a contender. They aren’t. A minimum of three losses.
I’ve contributed way worse. And I don’t think Michigan will win. Texas would be my team outside the top 5 as the national title sleeper. I’m just pointing out that one person picking a team that the collective has at #8 isn’t even close to the craziest thing.
But you’re horrible too.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:55 PM
yeah, saw it after the fact. funny* that we both mentioned the same game from 14 years ago. although the victory in Fayetteville over Tenn. almost made it worth it. still gives me chills watching highlights.
*not funny at all
August 20th, 2012 at 3:57 PM
roll tide roll
/september 1st
August 20th, 2012 at 3:59 PM
i think that’s my problem…his case is kinda “we just don’t know what’s going to happen” where im thinking, based on the title, that he’s going to be building a case as to why michigan could.
There’s a big difference between “Michigan will win the national title” and “it’s not completely outrageous for someone to vote Michigan to win the national title.”
I’m sorry that I didn’t write to your expectations, though. Always something I strive for.
August 20th, 2012 at 3:59 PM
Lisk, you’re alright with me
/not horrible
August 20th, 2012 at 4:03 PM
Lisk – why in the world are you saying Michigan is going to win the NC this year? I mean, come on! Ridiculous! You didn’t provide any evidence! I feel dumber after reading this and I’m a bammer fan!
/sarcasm
//Michigan does suck
August 20th, 2012 at 4:10 PM
i think your misinterpreting my hyperbolic sarcastic outrage for real outrage, but i digress…
“michigan winning the NC isn’t that outrageous” suggests that there is some reasoning for that scenario to come true…and while there is, since we can’t predict the future, the title suggested a different premise than “not outrageous for someone to vote michigan number 1.”
August 20th, 2012 at 4:11 PM
and i still want lauren tannehill to take a poop on your chest.
August 20th, 2012 at 4:13 PM
Told ya’
/would have had a better point had I not spent time researching the wrong stats
August 20th, 2012 at 4:14 PM
Snarky Lisk is fun.
August 20th, 2012 at 4:14 PM
I’ve still got 12 fucking months of Tim Tebow running through my head
/something about ducks quack birds something something
August 20th, 2012 at 4:16 PM
The point is that pre-season rankings mean little, and teams not receiving votes often do well, and teams with poor rankings often get first-place votes. This has very little to do with a bunch of frat boys running around at a state school drinking their way to an overrated education.
August 20th, 2012 at 4:20 PM
Spencer,
I present the last case I made for a team that you agreed with.
August 20th, 2012 at 4:22 PM
wait…i agreed with an optimistic assessment of the cleveland browns? I FEEL THE EARTH SHATTERING…oh, wait…nevermind, those are just fracking earthquakes.
/looks at how that prediction turned out
//cries
August 20th, 2012 at 4:26 PM
wait…i agreed with an optimistic assessment of the cleveland browns?
no one was surprised; you’ve been optimistic about Sergio for years.
August 20th, 2012 at 4:29 PM
man, yall just don’t know how great it is for something to pay off way, way down the road.
now i don’t either…BUT STILL.
August 20th, 2012 at 4:33 PM
man, yall just don’t know how great it is for something to pay off way, way down the road.
like praying?
August 20th, 2012 at 4:46 PM
The big 10 is horrible this year, thereby somewhat making legitimate this guy’s ridiculous argument.
Someone in the big 10 will go undefeated this year (Why not Mich?) pushing them to whatever the playoff thing is (I love college football but I honestly am not certain as to the actual format of the postseason this year.)
Mich actually winning in the post season against a legitimate opponent is a notion that renders the argument weak.
August 20th, 2012 at 6:30 PM
Michigan’s issues throwing the ball will cost them at least a couple tightly contested games this season.