Augusta National Admits First Two Women – Condoleezza Rice and Darla Moore

All, Golf, Women's Sports Stephen Douglas August 20th. 2012, 11:27am

Condoleezza Rice and Darla Moore have become the first two female members of Augusta National Golf Club, the home of the Masters. Rice, the former Secretary of State is also Augusta’s first Cleveland Browns fan. Moore is the vice president of a private investment company. Augusta Chairman Billy Payne seemed pleased to welcome women into Augusta. Via USA Today:

“These accomplished women share our passion for the game of golf and both are well known and respected by our membership. It will be a proud moment when we present Condoleezza and Darla their Green Jackets when the Club opens this fall.

“This is a significant and positive time in our Club’s history and, on behalf of our membership, I wanted to take this opportunity to welcome them and all of our new members into the Augusta National family.”

Let’s all welcome Augusta into the 21st Century. [USA Today]

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134 Responses to “Augusta National Admits First Two Women – Condoleezza Rice and Darla Moore”

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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
5-hour long rounds for everyone!
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
huzzah!
i dont think augusta deserved the criticism since it’s their members’ private property, but glad to see them do the ethical thing and let female members in.
also…call me, condi.
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
Let’s all welcome Augusta into the 21st Century. [USA Today]
Because all the way back in the 1990′s those bitches were slaving over a stove and not allowed to vote, right?
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SouvenirCity Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
i dont think augusta deserved the criticism since it’s their members’ private property
Fucking A this.
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Jimmy Chitwood Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
I’ve always been amazed at how upset people get over a private course choosing who they want to and/or don’t want to admit.
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
I’ve always been amazed at how upset people get over a private course choosing who they want to and/or don’t want to admit.
^^^^
upper-middle class non-Jewish white guy
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ms621 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Next step? Admitting poor people.
/submits application with request for waiver of initiation fee.
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
I’ve always been amazed at how upset people get over a private course choosing who they want to and/or don’t want to admit.
playing devil’s advocate…im always amazed that people who play golf enough to treat it like an investment asset could possibly be exclusionary when they know damn well the golf ball don’t care who you are.
the golf ball’s the ultimate judge…if you don’t want black people or chicks or whomever in your club, you’re being treasonous against the game itself.
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rittyrich Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
This better not mean they’re going to have more commercials on their Masters broadcasts.
Let’s all welcome Augusta into the 21st Century. [USA Today]
The 21st Century meaning the century where we ignore the rights of private citizens acting legally on private property?
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ms621 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
the golf ball’s the ultimate judge…if you don’t want black people or chicks or whomever in your club, you’re being treasonous against the game itself.
Someone’s been smoking Carl Spackler’s blend of Kentucky Bluegrass and Northern California Sensamilla.
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Milk Steak To Go Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
i dont think augusta deserved the criticism since it’s their members’ private property
I don’t know why Augusta got the backlash- that should have been directed squarely at the PGA.
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Rich people: “Why is everyone so upset about the economy and wanting handouts, if you work hard, you’ll be fine!”
White people: “Why is everyone so uspet about racism, it doesn’t really exist any more”
Male people: “Women get paid just as much as men and have the same opportunities we have”
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Let’s all welcome Augusta into the early 20th Century
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mizerle06 is sarah phillips Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
the golf ball’s the ultimate judge…if you don’t want black people or chicks or whomever in your club, you’re being treasonous against the game itself.
does this mean all members at Augusta will shave 10 strokes off their games now that they’ve admitted a black chick?
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ohheelyeah Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
i dont think augusta deserved the criticism since it’s their members’ private property
a million times this.
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
This better not mean they’re going to have more commercials on their Masters broadcasts.
the masters brought to you by coach! more flower shots! garden 3 challenge! kitchenathalon!
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scripty Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
/submits application with request for waiver of initiation fee.
just offer to be the dealer on card nights. mention you make a great old fashioned. log into that old LinkedIn page and make sure it’s current. Good luck.
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rittyrich Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
the golf ball’s the ultimate judge…if you don’t want black people or chicks or whomever in your club, you’re being treasonous against the game itself.
That isn’t the case though. Because if the golf ball don’t lie, and the golf ball could talk, it would tell a lot of people to get the F off the course.
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Jimmy Chitwood Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
upper-middle class non-Jewish white guy
Your assumption isn’t even close. More like, Guy who isn’t bothered by the choices of the members of a private golf course.
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Rich people: “Why is everyone so upset about the economy and wanting handouts, if you work hard, you’ll be fine!”
White people: “Why is everyone so uspet about racism, it doesn’t really exist any more”
Male people: “Women get paid just as much as men and have the same opportunities we have”
hey, lemme borrow your car. YOU ASSHOLE, WHY CAN’T I BORROW YOUR CAR? YOU SHOULD LET ME BORROW YOUR CAR BECAUSE I WANT IT.
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Milk Steak To Go Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
the golf ball’s the ultimate judge…if you don’t want black people or chicks or whomever in your club, you’re being treasonous against the game itself.
They make golf balls for chicks, should they make one for blacks?
/shows self out
//will proabbly come back
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
That isn’t the case though. Because if the golf ball don’t lie, and the golf ball could talk, it would tell a lot of people to get the F off the course.
i know…which is why i was playing a naive devil’s advocate.
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scripty Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
For the Aususta membership issue, it’s odd that nobody went after the players. The club’s policies were stated and legal. The players were the ones that could have boycotted. I always felt that wrath was mis-directed.
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
This better not mean they’re going to have Midol commercials on their Masters broadcasts.
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molemaninthemorning Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Martha Burke’s relevance is fading faster than Lindsay Lohan’s looks!
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
They make golf balls for chicks, should they make one for blacks?
they already do.
/runs away
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ms621 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Rich people: “Why is everyone so upset about the economy and wanting handouts, if you work hard, you’ll be fine!”
White people: “Why is everyone so uspet about racism, it doesn’t really exist any more”
Male people: “Women get paid just as much as men and have the same opportunities we have”
Reminds me of this.
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
the golf ball don’t lie
Then how can you play it as it lies? Answer that, Dan Jenkins!
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Its incredible that the most famous golf course in America was allowed to be blatantly sexist until today, and no one cared.
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rittyrich Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
For the Aususta membership issue, it’s odd that nobody went after the players. The club’s policies were stated and legal. The players were the ones that could have boycotted. I always felt that wrath was mis-directed.
Fat chance. Every one of those players has been stuck behind Nancy Rottencrotch and her foursome hitting their 5th, 6th, 7th shots into the short par-4 12th after the first 11 holes took them 3 1/2 hours.
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scripty Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Condoleezza Rice and Darla Moore have become the first two female members of Augusta National Golf Club
SOME RANDOM BROADS named Condoleezza Rice and Darla Moore have become the first two rfemale members of Augusta National Golf Club.
/fixed for site golf editorial policy
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ms621 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Its incredible that the most famous golf course in America was allowed to be blatantly sexist until today, and no one cared.
Obvious contrarian is obvious.
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Then how can you play it as it lies?
i play it as it fibs.
/kicks into fairway
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
it’s odd that nobody went after the players
A professional athlete’s sense of ethics and fair play generally gives way when it conflicts with his or her pocketbook.
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
/kicks into fairway
Ah, the foot wedge. Most reliable club in my bag.
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
Its incredible that the most famous golf course in America was allowed to be blatantly sexist until today, and no one cared.
i cared…i thought it was preposterous and horrible. i meant everything i said while being a naive devil’s advocate…but it’s their property, they can do what they like. what can’t you understand about that?
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A.P. Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Trim your rough!
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
Anyway, I thought Augusta already had a female member.
Oh, that’s right, Mickeltits is only an honorary member.
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scripty Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
I took 3 weeks off the game for VAC and some work & personal matters. Went out on FRI and shot my handicap (14) despite being 7 over after 3 holes. Felt good. Look to play twice this week.
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
For the Aususta membership issue, it’s odd that nobody went after the players. The club’s policies were stated and legal. The players were the ones that could have boycotted. I always felt that wrath was mis-directed.
they’re here for a tournament, not to change a club’s policy. that’s retarded.
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sousedbergin Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Sounds like a Mexican.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
i meant everything i said while being a naive devil’s advocate…but it’s their property, they can do what they like. what can’t you understand about that
I understand it fine. I just don’t understand how no one forced the issue. Had Augusta not allowed black members I can’t imagine that policy would have remained in place this long.
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Jimmy Chitwood Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Props to Augusta for doing this on their own terms/timing.
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molemaninthemorning Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Sounds like a Mexican.
¡APAGARLO!
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
When will Augusta see the light and accept poor white male 28-handicappers as members?!
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Spencer, Heel, Mullet…
Almost done with the putter: https://twitter.com/widewordofsport/status/237576944269524992/photo/1
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:51 AM
Props to Augusta for doing this on their own terms/timing.
They don’t deserve credit for anything here. That’s like patting yourself on the back for hiring a black guy.
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:51 AM
Sounds like a Mexican.
Dude, Mexican is not the preferred nomenclature. Undocumented Quasi-Murcan, please.
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
That block of metal is a chunk of lead that, with considerable effort, I was able to locate and melt with a torch to make custom weights to sink into the bottom.
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scripty Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
they’re here for a tournament, not to change a club’s policy. that’s retarded.
No different than an individual not accepting work from a contractor b/c the contractor was racist/sexist/unethical.
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ms621 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
That block of metal is a chunk of lead that, with considerable effort, I was able to locate and melt with a torch to make custom weights to sink into the bottom.
Next step: hermetically sealed bomb shelter, right?
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Props to Augusta for doing this on their own terms/timing.
yes, they are pioneers in their acceptance of minorities. we should all strive to follow their example.
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arkbadger Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
Its incredible that the most famous golf course in America was allowed to be blatantly sexist until today, and no one cared.
people cared, just not the people in charge. what part of private club do you not understand? I don’t think many people agreed with it, but many people aren’t members either, just kind of how it works.
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Roethlishotdog Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
I’m just surprised Spence hasn’t started a comment-bukkake on Sergio getting the w this week
/he still has 2 holes to blow a 3 shot lead.
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Babar 2.0 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
Hopefully this opens up the possibility to have my application accepted at Curves.
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
That’s like patting yourself on the back for hiring a black guy.
This reminds me of the time Reagan. at a White House reception for mayors from around the country, walked up to a guy and said, “How are you, Mr. Mayor? I’m glad to meet you. How are things in your city?”
The guy was Samuel Pierce, Reagan’s HUD secretary and only black cabinet member.
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Jimmy Chitwood Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
They don’t deserve credit for anything here. That’s like patting yourself on the back for hiring a black guy.
Augusta has been hiring black folks for years, so that’s just ridiculous.
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SouvenirCity Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
They don’t deserve credit for anything here.
They don’t deserve criticism for exercising their right as a private athletic club. Still don’t see this outrage for Butler, Black Sheep, Bob O’Link & Old Elm which are all still male only clubs in the Chicagoland area.
Was unaware we had so many professional golfers here who were personally affected by this.
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
they’re here for a tournament, not to change a club’s policy. that’s retarded.
No different than an individual not accepting work from a contractor b/c the contractor was racist/sexist/unethical.
Or refusing to buy a delicious chicken sandwich from a homophobic, discriminatory company?
/ Runs away, cackling
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scripty Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
The Associate Press article also states that Condi Rice was put on the grounds comittee. In their first meeting last month, Rice strongly advocated that Augusta National attack Atlanta Athletic Club and nearby Augusta Country Club do their stockpiling of fertilizers and other potential WMD components.
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MP III Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
They don’t deserve credit for anything here. That’s like patting yourself on the back for hiring a black guy.
true, but they also had every right as a private club to do what the hell they want.
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ms621 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
In their first meeting last month, Rice strongly advocated that Augusta National attack Atlanta Athletic Club and nearby Augusta Country Club do their stockpiling of fertilizers and other potential WMD components.
Nice.
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The Wayne Fontes Safari Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Was unaware we had so many professional golfers here who were personally affected by this.
Apparently feigning outrage leads to ones increased feeling of self-worth.
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Augusta has been hiring black folks for years
Dude, that’s not the preferred nomenclature. Negroes, please.
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molemaninthemorning Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Augusta has been hiring black folks for years, so that’s just ridiculous.
How many of them were named George?
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Tim Ryan Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 11:59 AM
the golf ball’s the ultimate judge…if you don’t want black people or chicks or whomever in your club, you’re being treasonous against the game itself.
Naturally.
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MP III Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
can i get into a school like grambling, alcorn state? really, i have always wondered if that would work.
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molemaninthemorning Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
No Homers.
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ms621 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
Apparently feigning outrage leads to ones increased feeling of self-worth.
Sometimes I think that there is something to be said for countries that don’t allow personal freedom of expression.
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Average_Joe Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
5-hour long rounds for everyone!
Nice one.
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
But do they have any members named Cervik or Wang?
Elitists. Harumph.
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RexKramerDangerSeeker Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
I don’t think we should be talking about this.
/hernia
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
They don’t deserve criticism for exercising their right as a private athletic club. Still don’t see this outrage for Butler, Black Sheep, Bob O’Link & Old Elm which are all still male only clubs in the Chicagoland area.
when they host an annual national tournament then i’m sure they will get the attention Augusta has received.
private golf club + national exposure + spotlight = different public perceptions and expectations.
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ms621 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
can i get into a school like grambling, alcorn state? really, i have always wondered if that would work.
Yes. Grambling had a white quarterback a few years ago.
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Jimmy Chitwood Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
That’s like patting yourself on the back for hiring a black guy.
This reminds me of the time Reagan. at a White House reception for mayors from around the country, walked up to a guy and said, “How are you, Mr. Mayor? I’m glad to meet you. How are things in your city?”
The guy was Samuel Pierce, Reagan’s HUD secretary and only black cabinet member.
I’m not seeing how one reminds you of the other. Did you just want to tell that story?
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
can i get into a school like grambling, alcorn state? really, i have always wondered if that would work.
Honey Badger is wondering the same thing.
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Coach Mike Woodson, Atlanta Hawks Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
The guy was Samuel Pierce, Reagan’s HUD secretary and only black cabinet member.
To be fair, he said the same thing to Nancy a few hours later.
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Scouser Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
IBM’s a huge sponsor of the US Open, right?
IBM CEOs usually get a membership to Augusta.
Current IBM CEO is a woman.
They had to start off with some women and not extend membership 1st to said CEO.
QED
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Grambling had a white quarterback a few years ago.
Was his name Mike Vick?
Did you just want to tell that story?
Yes. But the comment did in fact bring that story to mind.
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sousedbergin Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Was unaware we had so many professional golfers here who were personally affected by this.
Apparently feigning outrage leads to ones increased feeling of self-worth.
Bunch of low income nobodies. Are these morons getting dumber or just louder?
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
true, but they also had every right as a private club to do what the hell they want.
and they also could have said, you know what? We don’t like this attention, we have no plans to change our ways, let someone else host the masters and we’ll keep this little slice of heave we call the 1950′s to ourselves.
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molemaninthemorning Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
can i get into a school like grambling, alcorn state? really, i have always wondered if that would work.
NC’s previous governor, Mike Easley, went to law school at NC Central which is an HBC.
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
Are these morons getting dumber or just louder?
I’d also like to be getting drunker, but I have six more hours to go.
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Jimmy Chitwood Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
Augusta has been hiring black folks for years
Dude, that’s not the preferred nomenclature. Negroes, please.
If “folks” is good enough for Tavis Smiley, it’s good enough for me.
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SouvenirCity Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
private golf club + national exposure + spotlight = different public perceptions and expectations.
Sounds like unfair expectations to me. They exercised a right because it’s private property. Is it sexist? Hell yeah it is. Are they perfectly within their rights to do? Sure are!
Tell me again how this affects you? Oh that’s right. It doesn’t in the least. I’m not a member at Augusta either. It’s because I’m not a good golfer, not because of my gender or ethnicity.
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
we’ll keep this little slice of heave we call the 1950′s to ourselves
My slice makes me heave, too.
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
I’m just surprised Spence hasn’t started a comment-bukkake on Sergio getting the w this week
/he still has 2 holes to blow a 3 shot lead.
dont wanna jinx it.
can i get into a school like grambling, alcorn state? really, i have always wondered if that would work.
you should see how many white kids are in the HBCU golf events…it’s cringe inducing.
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MP III Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
and they also could have said, you know what? We don’t like this attention, we have no plans to change our ways, let someone else host the masters and we’ll keep this little slice of heave we call the 1950′s to ourselves.
seems fair.
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The Wayne Fontes Safari Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Are these morons getting dumber or just louder?
Depends on the angle of my monitor.
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
I’m not a member at Augusta either. It’s because I’m not a good golfer, not because of my gender or ethnicity.
I think it’s really becaue you’re a Browns fan. Also because you’re not rich and prefer something more weedilicious to a post-round Manhattan.
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:09 PM
you should see how many white kids are in the HBCU golf events…it’s cringe inducing.
Why cringe-inducing? Schools want golf teams (perhaps to meet NCAA mandates on number of sports), recruit best players they can find. Those are the players they found.
Jackson State, IIRC, has a pretty decent team.
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:10 PM
Why cringe-inducing?
because these white kids play in something called “the minority collegiate golf championship.”
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St. Bear Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
Tell me again how this affects you? Oh that’s right. It doesn’t in the least. I’m not a member at Augusta either. It’s because I’m not a good golfer, not because of my gender or ethnicity.
Reasons you are not a member at Augusta.
1. Money
2. Power
3. Money
4. Influence
5. Money
6. Money
7. Handicap
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:13 PM
Reasons you are not a member at Augusta.
1. Money
2. Power
3. Money
4. Influence
5. Money
6. Money
7. Handicap
really has nothing to do with it. warren buffett and bill gates play matches and neither break 100 regularly.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:13 PM
Sounds like unfair expectations to me. They exercised a right because it’s private property. Is it sexist? Hell yeah it is. Are they perfectly within their rights to do? Sure are!
Tell me again how this affects you? Oh that’s right. It doesn’t in the least. I’m not a member at Augusta either. It’s because I’m not a good golfer, not because of my gender or ethnicity.
oh shit, i forgot, we can only comment on things and have opinions on TBL when the story directly affects us.
unfair expectations? you get in the public spotlight and the expectations change. simple fact. private citizens/private organizations are held to a higher standard in the public eye.
sure, they can do what they want, it’s their right, but unfortunately anyone who is arguing for their rights to do what they want should recognize being a private entity in the public spotlight carries different public perceptions.
that’s what i’m saying, it’s not as simple as just saying, they can do what they want.
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St. Bear Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:14 PM
really has nothing to do with it. warren buffett and bill gates play matches and neither break 100 regularly.
I know, that’s my point. But I got tired of typing the word money.
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:16 PM
because these white kids play in something called “the minority collegiate golf championship.”
Technically, they’re minorities on their campuses. Ipso facto …
warren buffett and bill gates play matches and neither break 100 regularly.
Good to know there is at least one thing in life I surpass these guys at.
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Milk Steak To Go Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:16 PM
Lots of Libertarians up in this piece.
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
that’s what i’m saying, it’s not as simple as just saying, they can do what they want.
it is as simple as that…unless the players refuse to play, CBS refuses to broadcast, and then every other network follows suit, the club has all the leverage.
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ms621 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:20 PM
sure, they can do what they want, it’s their right, but unfortunately anyone who is arguing for their rights to do what they want should recognize being a private entity in the public spotlight carries different public perceptions.
The crux of this seems to be whether or not the rights of a private club are held above the public perception of egalitarianism we all like to believe exists. I lean, personally, towards yes.
Picketing Augusta National has always missed the point. If individuals felt truly outraged that a major PGA event is held at a place that, until today, restricted membership only to men, then the picketing should have taken place at PGA Headquarters.
Outrage at a private club’s policies, so long as they are within the law, reeks of misdirected populist fervor.
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ms621 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:22 PM
Lots of Libertarians up in this piece.
The recognition of the sacrosanct nature of personal property comes straight from John Locke. Libertarianism is the simply the extreme form of this belief.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
Libertarianism is the simply the extreme form of this belief
Marxism and Libertarianism would both work wonders in a Utopia. Application in the real world… not so much.
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ms621 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:24 PM
Marxism and Libertarianism would both work wonders in a Utopia. Application in the real world… not so much.
Agreed.
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:24 PM
Picketing Augusta National has always missed the point. If individuals felt truly outraged that a major PGA event is held at a place that, until today, restricted membership only to men, then the picketing should have taken place at PGA Headquarters.
it counts towards the PGA/euro/japan tour money list, but it’s not affiliated with any of em past that. kinda like how the us open is a usga event, not a PGA Tour one.
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ms621 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
it counts towards the PGA/euro/japan tour money list, but it’s not affiliated with any of em past that. kinda like how the us open is a usga event, not a PGA Tour one.
Ok, well the point still remains.
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
Ok, well the point still remains.
it doesn’t…the club has all the say regarding the tournament from tv rights to concessions.
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scripty Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:27 PM
the school that won the women’s minority golf championship had all whites on their golf team.
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kaiserwilhelmreems is commenting too quickly Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:27 PM
it is as simple as that…unless the players refuse to play, CBS refuses to broadcast, and then every other network follows suit, the club has all the leverage.
but that doesn’t make their public perception go away.
i agree, private citizens and clubs can do what they want. but as soon as you get into the public spotlight, all bets are off in terms of what your expectations are. that’s why a different standard is applied to them than other clubs who aren’t in the public spotlight
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scripty Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:28 PM
tiger’s coach Foley went to one of the minority schools on a partial golf scholly, I think
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ms621 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
it doesn’t…the club has all the say regarding the tournament from tv rights to concessions.
I was talking about the other point.
But since you said that, let me ask you this: how did this situation come about? I assume that there was a contract signed between the two at some point and that there is an end to that contract. Yes?
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Milk Steak To Go Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
Marxism and Libertarianism would both work wonders in a Utopia. Application in the real world… not so much.
A true libertarian would advocate for, at minimum, the repeal of the 14th Amendment. God bless Rand Paul.
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Walking Underwear Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:35 PM
just wait til one of them beats a member
/nice word choice i know
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
A true libertarian would advocate for, at minimum, the repeal of all amendments, including the bill of rights.
Because if the founding fathers really wanted that for us, they would have put it in the constitution!
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spencer096 Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:52 PM
But since you said that, let me ask you this: how did this situation come about? I assume that there was a contract signed between the two at some point and that there is an end to that contract. Yes?
CBS gives them more leeway so they can get the rights in future negotiations.
but the tournament itself is an invitational held by the club and it’s tradition sets it apart from other similar types of tourneys. the green jacket mafia sure knows how to use the leverage they get.
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St. Bear Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Because if the founding fathers really wanted that for us, they would have put it in the constitution!
Now you’re confusing Liberterians with Constitutionalists. Get your fundamentalists straight.
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:12 PM
Now you’re confusing Liberterians with Constitutionalists. Get your fundamentalists straight.
Ah, I was just poking the hornets’ nest.
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Milk Steak To Go Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:13 PM
A true libertarian would advocate for, at minimum, the repeal of all amendments, including the bill of rights.
That, too. I was getting at getting rid of the notion of a “place of public accomodation.” People should be free to discriminate at will. After all, “the market” will sort it out.
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Milk Steak To Go Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:14 PM
Also, get rid of the Commerce Clause.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:14 PM
These comments are the reason I can’t let go of this place.
Dude, that’s not the preferred nomenclature. Negroes, please.
Reminds me of a retort from the 60s, down south:
I’m not a n*gga, I’m a Neg-ah-ro
When I see a n*gga, I’ll let ya know
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:33 PM
These comments are the reason I can’t let go of this place.
Reminds me of a retort from the 60s, down south:
At least we don’t make you log in through the back door.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:35 PM
At least we don’t make you log in through the back door.
I shake my booty now where’er I want. Yippee!
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Walking Underwear Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:39 PM
hey, this place had blacks long before srod and it will long after srod
respect due
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QueeferSutherland Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:39 PM
People should be free to discriminate at will. After all, “the market” will sort it out.
Not sure if serious
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:42 PM
hey, this place had blacks long before srod and it will long after srod
respect due
Truth.
long after srod
Hey, waitaminnit…you know something I don’t know?
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:43 PM
Augusta National Admits ~~First Two~~ Women Exist–
Would have been almost as surprising.
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Walking Underwear Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:45 PM
Hey, waitaminnit…you know something I don’t know?
yep, you have book tours to do, right?
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:45 PM
Also, get rid of the Commerce Clause.
John Roberts took care of that a couple of months back.
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Nada Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:46 PM
this place had blacks long before srod and it will long after srod
SROD is black?!?
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Walking Underwear Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:46 PM
Augusta National Admits First Two Women Exist–
Would have been almost as surprising.
i bet there are some creationists in green jackets
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:47 PM
yep, you have book tours to do, right?
Uh, not yet. Those three friends haven’t sent back their peer reviews yet.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:48 PM
SROD is black?!?
Hey, waitaminnit…
/looks in the mirror
I’d call it chocolate brown, amirite ladies?
//holla’d
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Walking Underwear Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:48 PM
SROD is black?!?
blackblackblackblackblack
/berman voice
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Walking Underwear Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:51 PM
Uh, not yet. Those three friends haven’t sent back their peer reviews yet.
we’ll have that beer and discussion on fathers when your tour comes to my town
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
August 20th, 2012 at 1:53 PM
we’ll have that beer and discussion on fathers when your tour comes to my town
First round’s on me, vez. But, one or two may be my limit. Don’t think I can hang quite like you younger dudes.