DeMarco Murray Up to #7 in Fantasy Mock Drafts? Overrated: the 2012 Fantasy Football Running Back Rankings
DeMarco Murray of Dallas and Chris Johnson have been climbing draft boards in recent weeks. When I finished my rankings over the weekend, finalized my projections, and looked at what the average draft position data was showing, I was a bit stunned to see Murray so high. He is currently going at #7. Why? Has he suddenly become an elite running back?
No. Attrition. As news of injuries, potential suspensions, and holdouts emerge, Murray, along with Johnson, have steadily climbed. It’s kind of like the college football poll thing. They haven’t lost–they haven’t played anyone either–so we just kind of bump them up.
Not me.
Johnson is at #4. He is coming off a year when he played in every game but still only finished 16th in points scored, which if you think about it, means he was below average for a starter. Do I want to spend an elite pick on that? Murray showed flashes last year, had the monster 253 yard rushing game against the Rams, had a couple of others with 20+ carries and 130 yards, before getting hurt. I understand he has promise and is the more attractive option. His current price, though, is expecting elite performance when he takes the field every week. Too steep for me.
In fact (after I set the projections), I went through just now looking for similar players, high ypc, limited action (125 to 225 carries) and compared them based on games played, rush yards, receiving yards, and touchdowns. The eight most similar at age 23: Craig James, Harold Green, Napoleon Kaufman, Ricky Ervins, Ben Tate, Kevan Barlow, Ahmad Bradshaw, Chris Brown. Does that list scream “take him by the mid-first round in a fantasy draft?”
Craig James, by the way, had a pretty good year at age 24, ranking 9th. Collectively, that group averaged 172 points and an average finish of RB #16 (my independent projection was for 172 points also, not bad for government work) and almost all of them entered the next year as the starter or lead back in a platoon, just like Murray.
As I talked about over the weekend, it’s about determining replacement starter value for these issues with guys like Maurice Jones-Drew, Marshawn Lynch, and Ryan Mathews. Think about it this way: DeMarco Murray, or Maurice Jones-Drew plus two extra starts from someone like Jonathan Stewart while Drew is working back in?
I set these projections by first calculating my team running back production estimates based on recent history for that franchise, with slight adjustments for schedule strength last year or expected strength this year. I then did some regression (top teams will tend to have some decline, bottom teams will tend to show some improvement), and made team-specific adjustments based on personnel changes (line improvements or losses, players coming back from injury, expected improvements in passing game-which leads to touchdown opportunities). Touchdowns are another big variable, and fluctuate far more than yards. I regressed touchdowns to bring in outliers where the TD’s last year were out of whack with yards gained by the position.
After I set team projections, I then went through the top 3 in each team’s depth chart and divided the yards and touchdowns based on expected role, age (because older players more likely to decline), and past performance. Is it guess work? You bet. Hopefully, educated guess work, but I don’t know how Mike Shanahan is going to break down carries, or whether Bill Belichick will still throw a bigger Danny Woodhead wrench into the Patriots’ projections than I did. The good thing is, if you disagree on the team division, you can bump one player up at the expense of a teammate in the rotation.
Here they are, divided in tiers. When you see players ranked higher than their raw point projection, it’s because of the deal I talked about above. When Marshawn Lynch is out, you get to start someone else. Performance above baseline matters.
TIER ONE
1. Arian Foster, Houston (252)
2. Ray Rice, Baltimore (251)
3. LeSean McCoy, Philadelphia (230)
TIER TWO
4. Maurice Jones-Drew, Jacksonville (216) *Jones-Drew adjusted for being limited in first two games due to holdout. I previously talked about why I thought MJD was a top 4 pick.
5. Darren McFadden, Oakland (210)
TIER THREE
6. Ryan Mathews, San Diego (178). *Mathews projection is based on missing 2 games.
7. Marshawn Lynch, Seattle (162). *Lynch projection based on potential of being suspended 4 games.
8. Chris Johnson, Tennessee (188)
9. Adrian Peterson, Minnesota (169) *Peterson, who is off the PUP list and active, is ranked here based on possibility of still missing/being limited first two game. See my earlier thoughts on Peterson here. If he plays in preseason, shoot him up ahead of Mathews.
10. Matt Forte, Chicago (183)
11. Trent Richardson, Cleveland (164) *Richardson projection based on missing 1 game, limited in first game back. Prior to the injury and arthroscopic surgery, he would have been 5th to 6th on this list.
TIER FOUR
12. Steven Jackson, St. Louis (173)
13. DeMarco Murray, Dallas (172)
14. Jamaal Charles, Kansas City (171)
15. Fred Jackson, Buffalo (169)
16. Doug Martin, Tampa Bay (160)
17. Shonn Greene, NY Jets (153). I earlier explained why I had Shonn Greene higher than most.
18. Frank Gore, San Francisco (151). Don’t be afraid to take a chance on Gore at a low end RB2. The age related decline and roster additions are accounted for, but there is upside if taken in the right spot.
19. Darren Sproles, New Orleans (149) *Sproles would bump to top of tier four in a PPR league, I previously broke down Sproles.
20. Peyton Hillis, Kansas City (147)
21. Reggie Bush, Miami (147)
22. Stevan Ridley, New England (146)
23. Ahmad Bradshaw, NY Giants (146)
24. Michael Turner, Atlanta (145)
25. Willis McGahee, Denver (145)
TIER SIX
26. Benjarvus Green-Ellis, Cincinnati (143)
27. Roy Helu, Washington (141)
28. Donald Brown, Indianapolis (135)
TIER SEVEN
29. Isaac Redman, Pittsburgh (128) *this projection based on Mendenhall returning after week 7, working into a platoon situation. He’ll have more value early and would be a good pairing with someone like Lynch, Mathews, etc, and would project fifth tier if starter all year.
30. Jonathan Stewart, Carolina (127)
31. Cedric Benson, Green Bay (127)
32. Mark Ingram, New Orleans (126)
33. C.J. Spiller, Buffalo (124)
TIER EIGHT
34. James Starks, Green Bay (113)
35. Beanie Wells, Arizona (110)
36. Evan Royster, Washington (109)
37. Ben Tate, Houston (107)
38. Pierre Thomas, New Orleans (106)
39. Ryan Williams, Arizona (104)
40. Felix Jones, Dallas (104)
TIER NINE
41. Jahvid Best, Detroit (100)
42. Jacquizz Rodgers, Atlanta (98)
43. Michael Bush, Chicago (98)
44. LeGarrette Blount, Tampa Bay (97)
45. Daniel Thomas, Miami (94)
46. Bernard Scott, Cincinnati (92)
47. Mikel LeShoure, Detroit (92)
TIER TEN
48. Kevin Smith, Detroit (90)
49. Ronnie Hillman, Denver (90)
50. Joe McKnight, NY Jets (89)
51. DeAngelo Williams, Carolina (88)
52. David Wilson, NY Giants (87)
53. Jonathan Dwyer, Pittsburgh (87)
54. Shane Vereen, New England (86)
55. Isaiah Pead, St. Louis (83)
56. Montario Hardesty, Cleveland (83)
57. Kendall Hunter, San Francisco (77)
58. Jackie Battle, San Diego (72)
59. Taiwan Jones, Oakland (71)
60. Rashad Jennings, Jacksonville (69)
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August 13th, 2012 at 4:56 PM
CRAIG JAMES
August 13th, 2012 at 4:57 PM
Was Benson handed the starting job? Or do you think he wins it as the season goes on?
/been on vacation
August 13th, 2012 at 4:58 PM
Seems high, especially if you are talking about a 1st round pick for him. Definitely a boom/bust player, but picking that early, I’d go safer with Forte or even Chris Johnson.
August 13th, 2012 at 4:58 PM
Great job as always Lisk. I have the unfortunate position of being at 8 this year. Worst spot in the draft…
August 13th, 2012 at 4:59 PM
He’s never been the same since he pushed for 2,000 yards, and the Titans thought it would be a good idea to let him. I don’t think he ever gets back to old form, especially given the terrible offense around him.
August 13th, 2012 at 5:02 PM
What do mean by old form? As in won’t rush for 2,000 yards again? Quite the limb you are going out on.
Also, while its now a great offense, the Titan offense is good enough to allow Johnson to finish as a top 5 RB in fantasy.
August 13th, 2012 at 5:05 PM
Hey Lisk, I’m in a keeper league where I have both Arian Foster and LeSean McCoy, but then not a single RB in the top 7 tiers after that. Would you trade one of Foster/McCoy for RB depth in the 3-5 tier area or hope that one of the many backup RBs works out?
August 13th, 2012 at 5:06 PM
As in a top 5 RB again. If he’s top 5, it may be only because so many share time. I’m biased from watching him way too much the past few years, but I don’t think he creates offense on his own anymore. He needs great blocking and a good QB (a large amount of his offensive value is in the screen pass game) to be good now. I don’t think he touches 1500 yards again*.
* now he’ll get 2000
August 13th, 2012 at 5:07 PM
I’m not sure what about the Titans’ offense is ‘good enough’? I could be wrong, but I just don’t see it in the players they currently have on their roster.
August 13th, 2012 at 5:09 PM
CRAIG JAMES
Caption opportunities won’t be here one day, guys. Make the most of it.
August 13th, 2012 at 5:09 PM
Fuck no. Keep them and hope to pick up a decent guy on the wire after starter ineffectiveness/injury. Some of those tier seven guys are decent third RB.
August 13th, 2012 at 5:11 PM
‘good enough’?
But, but, but Kenny Britt!
/gets arrested
//gets arrested again
///gets arrested again
////posts team fine, whines about kids
August 13th, 2012 at 5:12 PM
That’s what I’m leaning toward…got some backups like Ryan Williams, Taiwan Jones and Daniel Thomas. Injury to the guy in front of any of them could be a big boost
August 13th, 2012 at 5:13 PM
I’m biased from watching him way too much the past few years, but I don’t think he creates offense on his own anymore
His numbers were a LOT better than his play. I don’t know if that makes sense, but I’m going with it.
August 13th, 2012 at 5:27 PM
I think the Titans have playmakers at WR in Britt and Washington, plus Cook is a pretty good pass catching TE. their Tackles are solid if not spectacular and they signed Hutchinson who is close to washed up, but still an upgrade at OG to what they had last year. Locker, while inaccurate and inconsistent, is athletic enough and has a strong enough arm to keep safeties honest and not loading the box with 8 to stop the run.
Not the greatest show on turf, but good enough to help Johnson.
August 13th, 2012 at 5:30 PM
Hey Lisk, I’m in a keeper league where I have both Arian Foster and LeSean McCoy, but then not a single RB in the top 7 tiers after that. Would you trade one of Foster/McCoy for RB depth in the 3-5 tier area or hope that one of the many backup RBs works out?
Only if it involved Trent Richardson and someone else of value. Probably not.
August 13th, 2012 at 5:30 PM
Nope. Which is why teams, as well as fantasy owners, should pay for what they plan on getting in the future instead of what was produced in the past. Especially for as replaceable of a part as NFL running back.
August 13th, 2012 at 5:34 PM
So with the addendum on Sproles, it’s safe to assume this isn’t for PPR leagues. Can you provide a shortlist of players that you’d bump in those types of leagues? I assume Forte, Stephen and Fred Jackson would be on there. McCoy would probably rank higher than Rice too.
August 13th, 2012 at 5:36 PM
Thanks Lisk, and good write up as usual
August 13th, 2012 at 5:37 PM
Only if he feels like putting forth actual effort this year.
August 13th, 2012 at 5:38 PM
So with the addendum on Sproles, it’s safe to assume this isn’t for PPR leagues. Can you provide a shortlist of players that you’d bump in those types of leagues? I assume Forte, Stephen and Fred Jackson would be on there. McCoy would probably rank higher than Rice too.
Harvey Unga
August 13th, 2012 at 5:40 PM
True, though being in shape and having a training camp should help. I just think he has a high floor since he will get majority of the carries on that team and is relatively durable.
August 13th, 2012 at 5:42 PM
haha, SC hates CJ so much for getting paid…
But I agree with Lisk that he is being drafted too high considering how mediocre he was last season
August 13th, 2012 at 5:46 PM
I hold my contempt for the general managers who supply players with contracts for compensation they have neither earned nor deserve. Chris Johnson took advantage of a system whereby players receive money for past accomplishments. Good for him and his family. It’s not his fault he’s being paid for something after the fact.
August 13th, 2012 at 5:53 PM
guess i misunderstood your past rants on the matter.
How do you feel about Forte being paid?
August 13th, 2012 at 5:54 PM
SC, you ignore the fact that the Titans are encouraging their players to outperform their current contracts, like Johnson clearly did. They showed a clear example that they will reward those who put in the extra effort.
August 13th, 2012 at 5:56 PM
Unnecessary reward. Run them into the ground and replace them (with the exception of QB, OL and DL). The CBA allows for you to do this. The players collectively bargained for that CBA.
I understand this is treating human beings like cattle but from a competitive and financial (cap) standpoint, it makes more sense.
August 13th, 2012 at 5:58 PM
From a business standpoint I get what you’re saying…still pretty fucked up though
August 13th, 2012 at 5:58 PM
Never let him pass unscathed.
August 13th, 2012 at 6:06 PM
I get what your saying, but a team ran like that will not be able to sustain success at all since guys will be looking to get paid else where and not buy into whats best for the team.
August 13th, 2012 at 6:39 PM
Thank you.
August 13th, 2012 at 7:08 PM
The Cardinals depth chart on their website lists Beanie Wells in the “others” pile and has Ryan Williams listed as starter. Does anybody know how regularly those team pages are updated?
August 13th, 2012 at 7:29 PM
I’m a buyer of Ryan Williams in the middle rounds as a sleeper. Considering how horrible Kolb is, I assume they’ll hand off a lot.
/free Skelton
August 14th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
I am all-in on DMAC this year. With the 7th pick I may get the #1 RB in the league. My problem is that I have historically gone with safe, sure-fire guys. This year that doesn’t exist at 7 unless you go with Brady, Brees, or Megatron falls to you there. I may go old-school RB, RB and take my chances with a DMAC/Forte or DMAC/AP combo. Boom or bust this year baby!