Roundup: Two Crazy Car Accidents, Kate Bosworth is Engaged & a Terrifying Plane Crash
Ashley Tisdale … science: “Stressed Men Like Bigger Butts” … big cuts on the horizon for the Inquirer and Daily News … Wisconsin teenager wins $50k in texting competition … “Editor Fired Following Harassment Accusation” … the 2012 election may come down to women and white people … “Bernanke Just Assured That The Student Loan Bubble Will Be The Next ‘Financial Stability Issue‘” … best looking assemblywoman in the world? … bomb in a bag sat under a desk for two weeks … Kate Bosworth is engaged … he’s charged with waterboarding his own daughter …
You should read this: “Her greater beauty is in the resilience and good humor she’s shown in the face of monumental struggles including poverty and homelessness.” [Des Moines Register]
If you missed the Joe Schad-Bobby Petrino interview, here’s a transcript. [Ark Sports 360]
She wasn’t happy with the NYT’s piece on nip-slips being shown on TV during Water Polo matches. [Feministing]
Peyton Manning looked OK in Denver’s first preseason game. [Post]
A day late, but this Brandon Phillips tweet might be the best by an MLB player this year. [Hot Clicks]
Here’s a really well-done story on Urban Meyer. [ESPN]
How did $14 million in drugs vanish from a University of Miami pharmacy? [Herald]
Woman blames xanax for trying to run her husband over. [ABC News]
Tyler Bray, the Tennessee QB, has “reached an agreement” following some dumb behavior on a jet ski. [Knox News]
“The financial success of the 480 members of the Shakopee Tribe — whose ancestors 150 years ago were hunted down, slaughtered and eventually exiled from Minnesota — derives from their flourishing casino and resort operation, which on weekends swells the population of their tiny reservation to the size of a city.” [NYT]
ESPN suddenly seems interested in the UNC academic scandal and how it might impact the hoops team. Someone tell Robbi Pickeral to read this site next week. [ESPN]
Probably the last Olympic Lolo Jones piece we’ll link. [Commercial Appeal]
Two crazy angles of a small plane crash in which everyone survived.
In his boxers, falling out of the passenger door? That’s a new one.
The buildup to this is like a horror movie. Then, at 1:38, you see what’s coming. [via Cartmaniak]

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August 10th, 2012 at 8:23 AM
Probably not. Bags under her eyes. We need more research in this area.
This is the kind of science I can get behind.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:27 AM
Does J-Mac follow a foreign car crash blog or something?
August 10th, 2012 at 8:31 AM
Going to be a post today on Bolt ripping into Duffy and Wilbon’s “greatest Olympian ever”?
August 10th, 2012 at 8:32 AM
Said this before and I promise I’ll say it again — why are so many Eastern Europeans driving around with dashboard cams??
White people deciding an election, eh? You dont say….
August 10th, 2012 at 8:32 AM
Interesting.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:33 AM
Is it just me, or does every car is Russia have a dashboard camera?
August 10th, 2012 at 8:33 AM
CJ, the better question is why every Russia car has a dashcam, and why they all get uploaded to youtube.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:33 AM
Dammit Google stop making your mini games so GD addicting.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:34 AM
Haha I’ve always wondered this. Would like to think it’s because shit is so crazy there that it’s some CYA measure.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:36 AM
The furtive honk just before impact is the “best” part. Do we know about injuries?
August 10th, 2012 at 8:36 AM
So I guess it’s not just me.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:36 AM
We’re good at things that can be done sitting down
August 10th, 2012 at 8:37 AM
I mean, I’m assuming the people in the 2nd video are dead, right? That was a full head on crash.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:39 AM
showed the accident to my wife a little bit ago. she was left speechless for about 30 seconds. the worst part is no airbag appeared to deploy. but you do hear a car door open, so you gotta hope people were OK
August 10th, 2012 at 8:39 AM
ZeroHedge is a terrible blog and the guy is wrong about almost everything, but it’s almost impossible to imagine student loan debt not being a massive bubble. Tuition is completely out of control. Kids are spending $150K to leave college and not get a job. It’s only a matter of time before people decide to stop paying en masse.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:43 AM
So it’s the school’s fault that kids are going in to 4-year institutions and coming out with degrees in history, or music (sorry Spence) or a litany other majors that leave them with nothing bet debt when they graduate (or drop out).
August 10th, 2012 at 8:45 AM
Did someone say student loan debt?
/jumps off roof
August 10th, 2012 at 8:47 AM
Posnanski has a story up about how Usain Bolt is the one athlete that essentially transcends jingoism. Media in every country talks about him, pays attention to him, covers him. He is a legend among legends. The piece is well written, but is it true? Does Bolt really transcend the Olympics? Something about that seems…off. Maybe in 2008. But now? I dunno.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:49 AM
I’m not particularly far removed from college (7 years), but even in my short time in the work force, it seems like those trying to get jobs these days also come with a sense of entitlement and belief that entry-level work is beneath them. I know my small experience doesn’t translate to the entire job-seeking college graduate population.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:49 AM
Hey, thats me!
August 10th, 2012 at 8:50 AM
Maybe I am the only one, but I am skeptical of this kids claim.
TBL – Is a Usain Bolt v Carl Lewis post coming today?
August 10th, 2012 at 8:50 AM
Of course not. But not everyone leaving ridiculously expensive schools have liberal arts degrees. Not even close. Hell, it’s really difficult to get a job with a law degree right now.
Aside from that, tuition costs have risen exponentially despite many prestigious universities sitting on record endowments. There’s an unspoken compact between students and colleges — give us money, and you’ll leave with a job. Otherwise, why go? Fair or not, a lot of kids don’t believe college are fulfilling their end of the bargain.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:51 AM
The playmaker back on campus?
August 10th, 2012 at 8:52 AM
I was super-excited to call home and tell my mother about my creative writing major (I was fortunate enough to have parents who were able to pay for school). Without hesitate she asked what else I was going to do.
/Shoulda just done than and drifted through my 20s
//eh, maybe not
August 10th, 2012 at 8:54 AM
it seems like those trying to get jobs these days also come with a sense of entitlement and belief that entry-level work is beneath them.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:55 AM
All the women in the world, and Ashley Tisdale makes the roundup. SMH
Sadly, I don’t think this is the first and/or last time.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:55 AM
He’ll be a Raider, bank on it
August 10th, 2012 at 8:58 AM
True, but how else do you start working on that debt? I’m coming from a no-student-debt ivory tower, though.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:58 AM
You should read this: “Her greater beauty is in the resilience and good humor she’s shown in the face of monumental struggles including poverty and homelessness.” [Des Moines Register]
fuck, can we stop with Lolo Jones already
August 10th, 2012 at 8:58 AM
I got no hate for Tisdale, she at least looks fresh compared to some that show up here
August 10th, 2012 at 9:00 AM
Get meth-cookin’
August 10th, 2012 at 9:01 AM
Ashley Tisdale
Who?
/too much Ashley
//need fresh meat
August 10th, 2012 at 9:02 AM
Guilty as charged. My econ degree helped.
Honestly, the best route is find a temp job and then hope you can get hired full time by somewhere you might like.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:02 AM
there are places who still won’t hire someone with a college degree for a poor-paying, shitty job.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:03 AM
Good roundup J-Mac.
Bray was having fun on a jet-ski! The horror! On a funny note, theres a good Twitter hashtag of Tyler Bray arrest possibilities, such as Tyler was arrested for his horrible back tat
August 10th, 2012 at 9:03 AM
Math major which qualifies me to work children’s birthday parties in character as the Mathemagician
“Now watch, children, as I make the remainder disappear”
August 10th, 2012 at 9:05 AM
I was ecstatic about them
/team baloney nips
August 10th, 2012 at 9:05 AM
My first job outta college in 2004 paid $24K. I worked there for almost three years. It sucked, a lot, but I told myself it was a bridge to something better and I turned out to be right. However, I had the luxury of holding that mentality in 2006. These days I might reconsider that approach.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:06 AM
he’s charged with waterboarding his own daughter
but he got a lot of high level intel out of her as well.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:06 AM
Watched Wonderland the other day. Great flick.
/ValKilmer.Legend.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:06 AM
When I was looking for work got “Overqualified” a couple times…it makes sense on their part since they don’t want to hire someone who’s going to be looking at CareerBuilder over lunch for something better, costs money to train people
August 10th, 2012 at 9:08 AM
Excellent obscure Simpsons reference +1
August 10th, 2012 at 9:08 AM
Really if youre not smart enough or athletic enough in high school to get a scholarship, or youre not rich, perhaps you shouldnt be going to a school with such a large tuition. Yay for my 8K/year in-state school! I paid off my loans last year, and I dont even make that much money.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:10 AM
Most graduates would kill for a job that paid that much.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:10 AM
All the women in the world, and Ashley Tisdale makes the roundup.
I can’t remember why she is famous or why McIntyre throws her up in the round-up so ofter, but she is playing hooker in the upcoming season of Sons of Anarchy. I guess she is magically being forced upon me. Interesting to see if she can act.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:10 AM
/Team JuCo
August 10th, 2012 at 9:11 AM
I wish 18 year old me had been that logical
August 10th, 2012 at 9:11 AM
This. Like the rest of America, I was unemployed for a brief (four months) stretch in 2008-early 2009. I was finally offered a job I didn’t want that I took simply because I was worried about UC running out (which turned out to be hilarious when it was extended to 99 weeks). Trying to sell yourself in an interview for a position you have no interest in is a depressing exercise. Spent all my free time looking for other jobs.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:11 AM
Always been curious why someone wouldn’t make two resumes for cases like this to try and avoid the “overqualified” factor.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:12 AM
Forbes says the median is $43k. If you can find a job, I suppose …
August 10th, 2012 at 9:13 AM
I know some quants with math degrees that are doing quite well, financially.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:13 AM
God bless the PGA Championship. The streaming video is beautiful, the picture-in-picture works, and I can place a miniature leaderboard in a corner of the player. Kudos to them.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:14 AM
What field was this in? Came out of college working for a Big 4 firm making mid 50′s in 2003. Couldnt imagine trying to live on my own in a city making 24.
/Pay was good but Auditing blows in all aspects.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:14 AM
I suppose. Sure didn’t feel fortunate at the time, though. Like I said, I had the mentality that you have to pay your dues out of college, which made that position more palatable. Which is why I think the idea that college grads are “too good” for certain positions has some merit.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:15 AM
Yeah, they usually end up working for I-banks, hedge funds or private equity. They make lots and lots of money.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:16 AM
Five years was all I could do …
August 10th, 2012 at 9:16 AM
My parents really made a lot of sense and they convinced me I wouldnt want a lot of debt when I graduated. I agreed.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:16 AM
I can’t get mine to work at work… /tear
/first world problems
August 10th, 2012 at 9:18 AM
Journalism. $24K seems generous all of a sudden now, right?
I didn’t live in a big city, which helped tremendously.
Mr. C, I can’t imagine the median starting salary is that high. I read the study but damn. Many people where I work don’t earn that, and no one here is on their first job.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:18 AM
/ValKilmer.Legend
This
August 10th, 2012 at 9:18 AM
knitty, Mr. C, I salute you both for working in the field. Auditing is a fascinating endeavor.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:18 AM
Toughest class to stay awake during in grad school, although the teacher going on a rant about Enron/Worldcom once a week was good fun
August 10th, 2012 at 9:18 AM
I don’t have a smartphone or a dashcam.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:18 AM
I went back to grad school after 5 years because I couldn’t deal with the daily job, and I was on the IT audit side, the hours were significantly less than the financial audit team.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:18 AM
Just do it like Loc Dog
August 10th, 2012 at 9:19 AM
Maybe it’s just my experience, but I really haven’t seen this attitude out of entry level employees or any of the co-ops we’ve had. On the contrary, most have seemed pretty thankful to have a job and would have washed my car if I had asked nicely.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:19 AM
The bees haven’t yet installed controls or blocks on their wi-fi, I’m in the clear.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:20 AM
The median salary is pretty bunk because it all depends on where you live. I’m sure the people here who live in big cities have much different salary expectations than I do.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:20 AM
This.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:20 AM
Nashville just raise the entry-level teachers pay to $40k. that’s some sweet money for an entry level job.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:21 AM
Came out of college working for a Big 4 firm making mid 50′s in 2003. Couldnt imagine trying to live on my own in a city making 24.
I started at Ernst & Young in 2006 at $36K.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:22 AM
I’m on the other side now and I’m not a dick exactly to the auditors (internal and external), but if they don’t ask the right questions they don’t get the right information.
/ok, I’m a dick
//get better at your job
Want to do this, but for something completely unrewarding financially.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:22 AM
I haven’t either. We hired an intern a few months back who has worked so hard that we’re probably going to hire her in a few weeks. A lot of my friends own businesses, though, and I constantly hear how they need people but can’t find anyone competent to take the position. Now, I don’t know what they’re paying, what their benefits are, etc, but a whole hell of a lot of people in my area need jobs. I doubt that mentality is prevalent, but it probably exists.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:24 AM
Nashville just raise the entry-level teachers pay to $40k
One county away. Damn
/cries
August 10th, 2012 at 9:24 AM
/Pay was good but Auditing blows in all aspects.
Five years was all I could do …
Three former auditors here! I graduated with $7K of student loans, paid off in a year. (State school/worked a lot during college).
August 10th, 2012 at 9:25 AM
/reaches in hat
//pulls out common denominators!!
August 10th, 2012 at 9:25 AM
I’m on the other side now and I’m not a dick exactly to the auditors (internal and external), but if they don’t ask the right questions they don’t get the right information.
I’m dealing with the auditors right now for our second quarter. Always an exercise in frustration.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:25 AM
there are businesses in my area who are always posting the same job opening every couple months. I don’t feel sorry for them for being bad at keeping employees or not hiring the right person
August 10th, 2012 at 9:26 AM
Who knew there were so many accountants here
/My name is also Bort
August 10th, 2012 at 9:27 AM
Maybe the Baby Boomers drilling into my generation’s head that “if you don’t go to college you’re not going to get a good job” has something to do with this.
As always. WORST GENERATION EVER.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:28 AM
I’ve yet to make as much as I did my first year out of college. I also don’t miss sales and don’t want to kill myself every day when I walk in the office. Job satisfaction is part of my current compensation. I think median pay in Chicago $38K.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:28 AM
Nerds!
August 10th, 2012 at 9:29 AM
We did an auditing section in one of my accounting classes in college and it seemed like suicidal work. No thanks.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:29 AM
Teaching actually pays quite well in my area, too. Unfortunately, it’s extremely difficult to get certified in PA (you have to student teach for an entire semester after you finish all your classes. That’s real hard to do if you already have a job). Plus, Corbett has slashed education budgets left and right, leading to lots of layoffs. Hard going for teachers these days.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:30 AM
This is going to end up being proven true time and time again. The sense of entitlement stems from the Boomers, and the Millenials actually tend to be fairly hard working.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:31 AM
This is probably due to a regional revenue thing… I was part of the Mid Atlantic region, with Philly and DC had huge clients in both areas (Comcast, Northrup).
Pay was great, vacation time was great, actual work sucked horribly… I felt like a pest at work, and there was no satisfaction in the completed work at the end of the day.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:31 AM
It’s not often I comment much and when I do get a chance…ASHLEY FUCKING TISDALE has to be the roundup girl?
/goes back to reading the articles cuz the centerfold is fugly.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:31 AM
We did an auditing section in one of my accounting classes in college and it seemed like suicidal work. No thanks.
Auditing is a giant house of cards – have to make sure you’re out before it collapses.
/lasted 3 years
//enough to get professional designation and get the F out
August 10th, 2012 at 9:32 AM
Maybe the Baby Boomers drilling into my generation’s head that “if you don’t go to college you’re not going to get a good job” has something to do with this. Mole
That was probably true for their generation. Definitely not true now. I’ve got a 529 for my kid and I’m fine if he ends up at plumbing school. The world will always need plumbers and they make a shit ton of money.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:32 AM
They can’t retire soon enough for me.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:32 AM
The one (large) caveat is that they need a long leash and can’t be micromanaged, and expect certain perks, like iPods in the office.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:32 AM
So the majority gender and the majority racial group of the electorate will decide the election? Brilliant deduction, LA Times.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:32 AM
I graduated with no debt. I worked at Busch Gardens and they had tuition reimbursement. I worked full time and took my classes on my days off and nights. Wish I would of picked a different major though.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:33 AM
it’s even better in Williamson County. now you’re two counties away.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:33 AM
/ctrl+f “golf”
//0/0
///goes back to work
August 10th, 2012 at 9:33 AM
Very little sexy about it. Nothing, actually.
We always know just what to ask to let you know we haven’t a clue what we need.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:33 AM
I have a lot of friends who went pro right after high school at state jobs or utilities. Never understood that mentality at the time. Now that their my age with four years more experience and guaranteed pensions, I often wish I had taken that path. I have a good job and like what I do, but these guys NEVER bring work home with them, deal with pressure, travel, etc.
/jealousy is a weak emotion
August 10th, 2012 at 9:34 AM
I’m not an accountant
August 10th, 2012 at 9:34 AM
spence, listen to panic today.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:34 AM
Journeyman union tradesmen make a ton of money.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:35 AM
Waiting for one to retire so I can take her cushy high five figures job after she leaves.
/places another X on calendar
//come on 2014
August 10th, 2012 at 9:35 AM
This is probably due to a regional revenue thing… I was part of the Mid Atlantic region, with Philly and DC had huge clients in both areas (Comcast, Northrup).
I was in lonely old Edmonton, some very large Oil & Gas clients mixed with tech companies and a few NPO’s.
Working for a crane services and heavy haul transportation company now, acquisitive as hell, really enjoying it.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:35 AM
Thanks Mr. Chairman, however we all fucking knew that already.
I doubt in-state at your school still only costs that much. It’s probably doubled at least.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:35 AM
They can’t retire soon enough for me.
That’s the problem. Most of them can’t retire.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:36 AM
Pun … intended?
August 10th, 2012 at 9:36 AM
We always know just what to ask to let you know we haven’t a clue what we need.
The worst part is you get them all trained up on how the company works, then they either quit or move to different clients. Lack of continuity is probably the biggest issue.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:36 AM
Fucking shylocks up in here. Cuz got sponsored with an H1B from Ernst & Young, and worked on some pretty sweet deals including the latest Lehman Brothers acquisition a few years ago. They paid for his CPA and now they’re paying for his Executive MBA. These firms sure treat you well if you’re kicking ass at work.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:37 AM
it’s even better in Williamson County. now you’re two counties away
Yep. Tried getting a job there and in Rutherford (for the sports. Even with a ton of connections in that county,could barely get an interview. Incredibly competitive.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:37 AM
This.
Boomers staying in positions much longer than they would have five years ago is one big reason we have a jobs problem. No one is retiring because they can’t use their home as an ATM anymore. They don’t have the same savings they used to. They need to keep working.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:38 AM
Am I the only one that works for a non-profit now that V4L has vanished into the ether?
August 10th, 2012 at 9:38 AM
Teaching actually pays quite well in my area, too.
Baltimore City: We’ll pay you $43k + sweet health ins. right off the bat if you are willing to work in the most dangerous/worst schools on the East Coast.
/Wire’d
//the girlfriend picked up this gig 3 years ago and, while I worry about her safety, there are worst deals in the world.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:39 AM
I’m not an accountant
But you are a runner.
/two days ago’d
August 10th, 2012 at 9:39 AM
/huffs sharpie
August 10th, 2012 at 9:39 AM
Plumbers and electricians.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
there are worse deals in the world
August 10th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
Those are all the jobs I’m applying for now. Working on a United Way cover letter today.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
It’s a way to keep you around. You don’t even need to kick ass, just endure.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
That’s funny and I guess true, I never even asked, just brought mine in…I focus better with tunes as opposed to the white noise an office provides
August 10th, 2012 at 9:41 AM
You just described my situation perfectly 3 yrs ago. Worked a job I hated and all I would do when I got home was apply to jobs. It ended up working out as I’m at a great place now that I really like, but that was a miserable year out of my life
August 10th, 2012 at 9:41 AM
Grew up here, and seriously considered coming back and becoming a teacher while I was laid off but couldn’t pull the trigger (appropriate euphemism).
August 10th, 2012 at 9:42 AM
Really surprised there are not more IT people in here. It’s one of those fields that if you can get into management, you can really coast through if you have a good team and don’t need to a micro manager
August 10th, 2012 at 9:42 AM
Awesome.
I was lucky enough to come out of undergrad with no debt thanks to my pops who was a professor there (free tuition).\
Grad school though was 60k and I’m paying off loans at around 7%, so I’ll be paying them off for the next 20 years until my son goes to college and the cycle begins again.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:42 AM
Every single client mentioned this. Exacerbated by the fact that you’re asking similar questions year after year due to the nature of the job.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:43 AM
I didn’t realize Chicago was so poor.
/puffs pipe
//adjusts monocle
August 10th, 2012 at 9:44 AM
widespread?
i would, but im deep in a talking heads zone right now.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:44 AM
I get pissed when Spotify buffers at work.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:44 AM
Nope, I still do.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:44 AM
I think median pay in Chicago $38K
Then how the hell is it so expensive? How does anyone afford to live there?
/DC resident where everything is expensive and everyone seems to be overpaid
August 10th, 2012 at 9:45 AM
Healthcare and University foundations, dude. Those, or if you’re in a big city, museums/planetariums/aquariums/zoos. I work in healthcare and if they hadn’t just opened a state of the art facility that will require both bricks & mortar and research funding, I may have taken a job at the Shedd Aquarium in development. As it stands, I could be one of the few people of our generation that works for the same employer for 30 years.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:46 AM
You callin me old?!
Still around 8K Maybe it was even less when I went. I was probably including some room & board because I lived on campus for 2 years.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:46 AM
Izzat corncob?
August 10th, 2012 at 9:46 AM
Really surprised there are not more IT people in here.
Raises hand. Been doing IT for about 17 years. Currently doing some email security projects.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:47 AM
Healthcare and University foundations, dude. Those, or if you’re in a big city, museums/planetariums/aquariums/zoos.
Moving to Denver next summer and I am already scoping out the IT project management positions for healthcare industry. It’s big, but seems like I might have to go a step lower (Analyst) before I could get up to Project Management level again.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:47 AM
99% of jobs in Pittsburgh are healthcare related. I cannot work for UPMC though, I refuse to.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:47 AM
but couldn’t pull the trigger (appropriate euphemism)
Worst experience in 3 years: 2 kids throwing rocks at her
/all things considered not too bad
//she teaches 2nd grade
August 10th, 2012 at 9:47 AM
I don’t want to do this to buy myself time to try writing again. Or explore subjects I never got to my first time around.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:48 AM
You’ve forgotten about Anacostia, where much of the service employees live and real estate costs are lower. Not that their cost-of-living is much lower overall — I don’t know how some of those people survive.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:49 AM
I can’t fathom how anyone affords to live there that doesn’t work in government. City is a money hole. I’d rather live in NY or the bay area than pay the ridiculous costs of DC living.
I lived on less than $38K in Chicago for a little over a year. I was also in grad school though. I had a little debt at the end of the year but it wasn’t more than a couple grand. Have since paid it off. In December, my student loan payments for grad school kick in. Thankfully, so does my new salary a month later.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:49 AM
Mole, Bellamy to Cardiff City. No big loss, right?
August 10th, 2012 at 9:49 AM
When I started at MSU, it was 147 bucks a credit hour. No clue what it is now.
A few years after I graduated high school though, Michigan introduced a special grant for students staying in state for college. This led to U of M and MSU (and I’m sure the directional schools) to sharply increase their acceptance requirements and tuition.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:49 AM
Am I the only one that works for a non-profit now that V4L has vanished into the ether?
Non-profit here.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:51 AM
It sucks, but it was inevitable. He wants to retire there and get them promoted, hometown club. Good for him, he’ll get lots of playing time. It sucks because he would have been a good fit for the new system but he’s old, has the knees of a ninety year old, and was on big wages so it makes sense.
Between him, Kuyt, and Maxi, we’ve lost 25% of our goals from last season though so they still need to be replaced.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:51 AM
IT project management positions for healthcare industry.
With the type of work I do, I’m always knee deep in that stuff with HIPAA and ePHI compliance projects.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:52 AM
People can hate on Pittsburgh but the cost of living here is nothing. I’m paying less in rent for a brownstone than I paid for a shitty two bedroom college apartment in NC.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:52 AM
I’m the same way SC; I’m fairly certain I could make more money somewhere else but the benefits, stability, and overall job satisfaction here is more than enough to keep me happy.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:53 AM
I can’t fathom how anyone affords to live there that doesn’t work in government. City is a money hole. I’d rather live in NY or the bay area than pay the ridiculous costs of DC living.
Lots of people come in from far places (West VA, Richmond, Baltimore) but the real money is contracting. You have to be prepared to be looking every 3-4 years, but the money is good. We were lucky to be able to buy in Northern VA but yeah the cost of living in some areas around here are insane.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:54 AM
Agreed. I could go to another company in my field and make a few grand more, but I would hate my job. I love what I’m doing and where I’m working now.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:54 AM
Unless you a doc (you’re not, because the loans would be more) or a lawyer, you shouldnt be paying for grad school.
Either get a company to pay for it, or go full time and get funded as a TA/RA.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:54 AM
I’m the IT guy at a small company. The job is not exactly taxing.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:56 AM
Maybe.
/probably older than you
August 10th, 2012 at 9:56 AM
Between him, Kuyt, and Maxi, we’ve lost 25% of our goals from last season though so they still need to be replaced.
You were discussing this yesterday about Gerrard moving up a bit more as as an attacking midfielder to get more scoring chances with Suarez being the setup man, and the new striker (forget his name) off to a good start. Apologies if I missed this, but is Dempsey still on their radar? If so, he could definitely add a scoring punch.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:56 AM
That’s fine, and I tend to agree, but try doing it with an old school manager who’s been around for 30+ years.
Just a different management style. What used to be, “Do as your told” is now “What do you think would work”.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:57 AM
please, please stop posting pictures of Ashley Tisdale
August 10th, 2012 at 9:57 AM
poor, poor Ryan Mathews
that’s some seriously shitty luck
August 10th, 2012 at 9:57 AM
I have worked for 2 companies that I absolutely hated every day I was there…never again. I was also laid off for a few months (i was lucky it was only that long) and it really made me appreciate things at work a little more
August 10th, 2012 at 9:59 AM
Soccer discussion?
/ears perk up
Looks like Liverpool will be spending a fair amount on bringing Joe Allen in.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:59 AM
OK, sweet. Best part of TDKR was Heinz Field collapsing in on itself.
August 10th, 2012 at 9:59 AM
I also work for a non-profit
August 10th, 2012 at 10:00 AM
“Do as your told”
/puts on monocle, and raises eyebrow
August 10th, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Unless you a doc (you’re not, because the loans would be more) or a lawyer, you shouldnt be paying for grad school.
Either get a company to pay for it, or go full time and get funded as a TA/RA.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:00 AM
I know where Watson works but what type of NPO, KC?
August 10th, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Borini.
Dempsey talk cooled off the last few weeks but has accelerated again. Talk of using Charlie Adam as a makeweight with Fulham, they need a replacement for Danny Murphy and he would be a competent one.
Joe Allen is signing today as well, which could well mean the end of Adam.
Borini replaces Bellamy position-wise, but we still need replacements for Maxi and Kuyt. Dempsey makes sense, as does Christian Tello.
I’m expecting two to three attacking signings and one utility player in defense.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:01 AM
£15 million.
Worth it.
Also will only be on £45k wages or so. Which makes it a shitload cheaper deal in the long run.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:02 AM
Looks like Liverpool will be spending a fair amount on bringing Joe Allen in.
/nods furiously
August 10th, 2012 at 10:02 AM
Philosphical question … are people seeking fulfillment from their jobs? As part of their identity, I mean. I don’t have a career, in my opinion, I have a job that allows me to do other things. I will quit this job as soon as possible in order to pursue things that actually interest me. I don’t hate my job, but it doesn’t hold a place of prominence in how I define myself.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Holy hell that was pretentious. Didn’t mean for it to come across that way.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Yeah, fuck UPMC for not letting my company bid on jobs because we’re not union. Shame they don’t want to save 30% of their money on a company that actually works.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:06 AM
Yeah, get him on the cheap on weekly wages with a long-term contract, with small percentage increases per season. Best kind of move.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:07 AM
Mr C, I’m not expecting fulfillment out of the gate, I’m willing to trade that for a living wage and a bit extra.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:07 AM
I’m in the same boat. I’m lucky enough to work in a job that pays relatively well and is virtually stress free but if I were to be laid off tomorrow its not like there is another job just like my current one I could transition to.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:07 AM
Before I had a kid, I used to be this way.
Now, I look at a job as a way to do the things I want to do. I still manage my career in a way that sets me up for advancement, but I don’t put nearly the emphasis (or time) on it that I used to.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:07 AM
Add 1 more auditor to the list. Ive moved onto training and implementing companies on SOX 404. Also train on how to incorporate Six Sigma into the workforce.
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August 10th, 2012 at 10:08 AM
As opposed to Chelsea paying Hazard £175k a week or whatever it is they gave him. Dude is going to flop.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:08 AM
I just don’t want to be miserable for 40-50 hours a week. Knowing that the work I do helps fund projects that save kids’ lives is just gravy on top.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:10 AM
this
August 10th, 2012 at 10:10 AM
This. I work hard and often bring work home with me, but my job doesn’t define or drive me like it did in my mid-20s. It’s now a way to facilitate things I want to do — vacations with my wife, saving for retirement, saving for kids, fun on the weekends.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Community boxsets.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Seems like there are similar views on job v. career around these parts. My Wife is super motivated which could work out well for me down the road, but makes me wonder if I “should” be more intense about work.
/but when would I comment?
August 10th, 2012 at 10:13 AM
I don’t know, I think Hazard’s legit. But that amount is too high at the outset.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:15 AM
Hahahaha. My girlfriend is studying for the MCAT eighteen months in advance, I’m sitting here like “Jesus lady, slow the fuck down I feel like an asshole.”
August 10th, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Despite my bosses urgings, I declined to apply for a position in my company that would have been a slight promotion and possibly a small pay increase because it would have had me travelling from Long Island to Delaware. They wouldn’t have paid me enough to justify the decline in quality of life.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:17 AM
to me, a job is a means to an end. It allows me to afford my house, car, etc and raise my daughter. I guess at this employer I do feel a sense of pride that I haven’t had at other places I have worked before. I wouldn’t saw its a trait I am looking for in a job though, just something that has developed over the 3 yrs I have been here.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:18 AM
That test is a beast. I took it twice, which may seem like a #humblebrag, but it’s not when you think there’s a reason I had to take it twice.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:20 AM
I’d like to think I would do this as well, but the culture seems to be that if asked you don’t say no
August 10th, 2012 at 10:20 AM
LSAT is the worst test in history. Fuck that thing.
/although my friends at work who have done all three levels of CFA might have something to say about that…
August 10th, 2012 at 10:22 AM
yesterday mp3 said he was on the baylor track team and had worked out with michael johnson. i said loks like mp3 is the second most accomplished commenter athletically, first being zeus
anyone else wanna humblebrag?
August 10th, 2012 at 10:22 AM
I buy those with freelance money. If I couldn’t, I’d use food stamps. Can’t go without.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Hank Schrader is nodding in agreement
August 10th, 2012 at 10:24 AM
College cheerleader?
/not a sport
August 10th, 2012 at 10:24 AM
lolwut
August 10th, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Most irritating “new workplace culture” thing: employees that are looked down upon for “only” working 40 hours a week.
I usually put in a lot more than that, but even if I didn’t, fuck you. You pay me for 40. Don’t act like someone is a slacker because they do what they’re supposed to.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:27 AM
I’m awful at standardized testing…took it twice and got the same score both times. The only standardized tests I actually did good on were my AP tests back in high school.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:27 AM
Couldn’t disagree more. I coach tennis and work with the drama program at the local high school. These kids are so apathetic and lazy that it drives me nuts. I’m from the tail end of Gen X (born in ’80), so I’m not looking at it from the Boomer perspective either. Motivating these kids to give 2 hours of effort at tennis practice is way more difficult than it has any right to be.
Maybe the beginning stages of the Millenials are hard workers, but those that are still in high school definitely have a sense of entitlement and a severe lack of work ethic. Keep in mind that these kids are from a rural area as well, so you would generally expect them to be accustomed to more hard work.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:28 AM
+1 stink-eye while you walk out at 5
August 10th, 2012 at 10:28 AM
This irks me too. Is it my fault I’m efficient and get all my shit done in the normal work week?
August 10th, 2012 at 10:30 AM
LSAT is the worst test in history. Fuck that thing.
The UFE (Uniform Final Evaluation) that you have to pass to be a Chartered Accountant in Canada sucked. 3 days in total, day 1 is a 4 hour comp, day 2 & 3 are multis (3 questions in set time period).
August 10th, 2012 at 10:35 AM
I didn’t mind the LSAT at all. I’m sure it’s changed a bunch since I took it, though.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:37 AM
Rollo?
Rollo?!
ROLLO, WHERE’S ROLLO?!?
August 10th, 2012 at 10:38 AM
I work 7:30-4 and I’m out that door at 3:59 everyday.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Sup
August 10th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Those are some crazy eyes. They’ll haunt your dreams.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
7:30-5. Out at 11:30 on Fridays.
/49 minutes ..
August 10th, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Wish I would of picked a different major though.
like english?
/could not resist
August 10th, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Mr. C – solid question that I’ve thought about many times. I want the work I do to be meaningful. my job doesn’t define me, but the meaningfulness does define my job satisfaction. I have no other option than to work, so if I’m not personally satisfied with the type of work I get, then what the fuck did I spend 8 years in school to do and why am I spending 50-60 hours a week working/commuting?
August 10th, 2012 at 10:47 AM
ha. I hope you’re prepared for 4-6 years of her emotional roller coaster if she does well on it and gets into med school.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:50 AM
I’ll be fine. If she does med school (wants to be an abortion doctor) and we’re still together it means I’m doing my PhD at the same time, and having already done two graduate degrees, I’m used to dealing with emotional trainwrecks.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:51 AM
That’s a better way of putting it, I think. I wonder the same thing, but ultimately reach the conclusion that because I have to work, I need to find where satisfactory time demand meets reasonable compensation.
I didn’t spend any extra time in school to get my job, but I did get a professional certification and work is the single largest thing that I spend time on.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Yeah, I’m making about 43 per in STL. I can’t stand the job most days, don’t like most of the people, and think the profession is not what I hoped/wanted it to be. (TV journalism). The wife got promoted to GM of a movie theater and with her bonuses, she’ll now be making more than me. She’s really good at her job (saved the theater over 100k in less than a month of being head honcho) and loves what she does.
If I could go back in time, I’d tell college me, “listen you little shit, you’re talking architecture classes and other labor stuff! That drama/communications degree won’t get you jack shit!”
My problem is I have no idea what else I’m qualified to do. I feel like you could get a fucking chimp to do my job.
/low confidence’d
August 10th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
WORST FUCKING GENERATION OF THE BIGGEST CUNTS EVER.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Lotsa learnin’ up in that relationship.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
“You’re not stupider than a monkey are you?”
“Well how big of a monkey?”
August 10th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
“You’re not stupider than a monkey are you?”
“Well how big of a monkey?”
The job is repetitive tasks, with only some minor decision making and improvisation. So…maybe the monkey from that new NBC show could do my job?
August 10th, 2012 at 11:02 AM
journalism gets a bad rap moneywise. when i left the daily in 2002, i was making just over 50k/yr
no clue what it would be now. just before i left they started making 5% paycuts, then later laying folks off
August 10th, 2012 at 11:05 AM
Journalism seems to get a stability rap more than money rap. If you were working at The Daily you’d likely have gotten laid off last month.
August 10th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
yep
August 10th, 2012 at 11:23 AM
Having taken both the LSAT and the CFA, the LSAT is a walk in the park.