Preseason Football: Peyton Manning in His Bronco Debut Against the Bears
The preseason schedule begins in earnest tonight, with six games on tap. It is still week 1, so don’t expect most established starters to play more than 1 series, 2 at the most. If you want to dissect Peyton Manning’s form in coming back from neck surgery, you will have just a few throws to do it. Denver plays Chicago at 8:30 eastern.
Here is the rest of the schedule tonight:
Washington at Buffalo (7 pm): Robert Griffin III makes his first appearance in live action for the Redskins. The more intriguing thing here is the running back rotation. How early does Evan Royster come in? How many snaps does expected starter Roy Helu see? With a Shanahan backfield, and what should be an improved offense, it’s something to monitor early.
Baltimore at Atlanta (7:30): Two established veteran teams with very few new starters, so this is all about depth evaluation and seeing who might step in on defense in a few key spots (for Terrell Suggs in Baltimore and in the linebacking group without Curtis Lofton for Atlanta).
New Orleans at New England (7:30): Man, this would be a fantastic matchup . . . in October. Instead, we can only get teased here, and Chase Daniel versus Ryan Mallett is likely to be featured heavily.
Pittsburgh at Philadelphia (7:30): The story here is Andy Reid, who is expected to be on the sidelines less than a week after his son Garrett died unexpectedly. These games have little meaning anyway, but this one might feel a little empty.
Green Bay at San Diego (8:00, ESPN): This one is nationally televised. Focus on the Packers first round pick Nick Perry to see if he gets any pass rush against a line that is in transit in San Diego. For San Diego, Rivers will get early work with Robert Meachem. On the other side, the youngsters, including last year’s pick Corey Liuget and Melvin Ingram, this year’s first round pick, will be ones to watch.
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August 9th, 2012 at 7:05 PM
Finally…
August 9th, 2012 at 7:12 PM
Tv listing says NFL Preseason Football : Redskins at Bills
TV actually showing: Wheel of Fortune
Fuck you.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:15 PM
You’re seeing more legitimate competition with the Wheel
I think the Packers are starting some bum backup LT tonight (they’re dangerously thin on the offensive line and Marshall Newhouse isn’t playing), I say fuck it and sit Rodgers…let Graham Harrell get more work
August 9th, 2012 at 7:22 PM
THE ROCK HAS COME BACK!!!
August 9th, 2012 at 7:26 PM
Gonna watch the first two series of the Ravens game then call it a night.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:29 PM
Yep. I’m interested in seeing the line get pressure and Nick Perry in coverage. Not surprisingly, he’s not exactly lighting it up during practices what with all the adjustment to the new responsibilities.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:41 PM
I’m curious as to the Eagles O-line, esp. with Bell replacing Peters this year. Oh and Cox better blow the shit out of the Steelers line.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:22 PM
Pats rookie DE is eating up Saints LT tonight. Not a good sign for Brees.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:23 PM
NFL and its greedy blackout policy. Fuck them. Lets air the game on tape two days later. I know it is preseason but its the principle..
August 9th, 2012 at 8:28 PM
And there goes Bishop. So much for an injury free game.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:33 PM
NFL and its greedy blackout policy. Fuck them.
My company has a strict blackout policy, in that based on my schedule unless I find a different job all I get to watch is Monday night football and maybe the first quarter of the first game Sunday morning.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:34 PM
morning.
Meant afternoon
August 9th, 2012 at 8:40 PM
FOOOTBAAAAAALLLLLLLLL!!!
/turns off game after the first quarter.
I always get excited for the first taste of football and then sour on it until shit gets real for the regular season.
/Oof. Might not make it through the first. I’m not to the point where I can enjoy Gruden ironically.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:42 PM
I’m not to the point where I can enjoy Gruden ironically.
I didn’t know there was a point where you could like that fucker. His talks with Luck on ESPN’s QB room before he got drafted and hearing him say every other 6 words spider 2 wide banana spider 2 wide banana made me want to smash the TV.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:44 PM
I’d dare to say I’d rather listen to Berman than Gruden.
/Pulls out umbrella for the shit storm that’s about to spew
August 9th, 2012 at 9:09 PM
/shits
August 9th, 2012 at 9:10 PM
/giggles
August 9th, 2012 at 9:12 PM
I think I may have reached my threshold for the Olympics. I need something different
August 9th, 2012 at 9:12 PM
/giggles
/Story time?
August 9th, 2012 at 9:14 PM
I think I may have reached my threshold for the Olympics.
I’m just glad the women finally got the soccer gold because now the entire country can stop pretending like they give two shits about women’s soccer.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:14 PM
Why not? Back from vacation and at the in-laws again. No SIL in sight. Not expecting an appearance.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:16 PM
I’d dare to say I’d rather listen to Berman than Gruden.
Either is bad. Their are competent booth people that can call a game. But only normal football viewers know their name. ESPN just wants name recognition so the “only is it an event so I have watercooler/blog comment things to share tomorrow morning” type folks because they already know you and me are watching the game.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:16 PM
Rollo’s back. Holy Fuck! TBLAD is on!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:17 PM
I am so here for TBLAD
August 9th, 2012 at 9:18 PM
Their?
/Oh, my.
//Eh, Dirt’s not around anymore to give me shit.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:18 PM
Both times in the last two years we’ve been on vacation when the US women’s soccer team has been proving the dramatics, leading to big games that the public talks about. It means I get to drink like it’s a big game in a bar full of people also watching the games. It feels like getting a bonus.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:19 PM
I am so here for SIL tits and epic family meltdowns
/Pulls up a chair
//Chair’s already been pulled since beginning of shift
///Aren’t allowed to have popcorn at the desk
////Doesn’t have any popcorn anyways
August 9th, 2012 at 9:21 PM
Rollo –
While you were having vacation sex with your wife and looked in her eyes, did you see your SIL’s eyes?
That’s not what I meant. What I meant was did you tell your wife about your evil SIL?
August 9th, 2012 at 9:21 PM
Rollo –
While you were having vacation sex with your wife and looked in her eyes, did you see your SIL’s eyes?
That’s not what I meant. What I meant was did you tell your wife about your evil SIL?
August 9th, 2012 at 9:21 PM
Is Hawkeye here to ring the horn? I definitely have to thank Scripty for something that happened last week, if anyone can get his attention. And I’ve never talked to crackerjack but I’ve heard she’s been giving me shit so wtf.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:22 PM
Both times in the last two years we’ve been on vacation when the US women’s soccer team has been proving the dramatics, leading to big games that the public talks about. It means I get to drink like it’s a big game in a bar full of people also watching the games. It feels like getting a bonus.
Honestly, for as much as I talk shit about soccer, I still sit and watch it and actually enjoy watching it. Not a huge fan but I can appreciate it.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:23 PM
I just sounded the TBLAD alarm, let’s get this going
August 9th, 2012 at 9:24 PM
The Horn has been sounded
August 9th, 2012 at 9:26 PM
Rollo’s here? Sweet. Let’s put a bow on this epic tale.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:27 PM
I’m bored
August 9th, 2012 at 9:28 PM
I wish. I mean, we are back at the in-laws right now. So this may not be over. And there’s always family parties…
August 9th, 2012 at 9:28 PM
We were lead to believe that there would be punch and pie.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:31 PM
Rollo,
I’ve worked in the mortgage biz for 15 years. I only got bits and pieces so I’m not sure why you’re having trouble with the loan. Are they making you put more $$ down because it’s considered a declining market?
August 9th, 2012 at 9:31 PM
Was trying to make it through the last 12 hours at the in-laws last Friday, planned to tell the wife about the SIL once we were out of there, so we could figure out what to do. SIL was at the Ottawa Riverfest at the carnival (sad, at 21 yrs old TBH) and the crazy boyfriend was with her. Parents were pissed they were together at this fest (this is a day after he tried to get me arrested and swore at her); they found out from a family friend who saw them together there and called. They demanded she come home. She eventually did…two hours later with the BF in separate cars.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:32 PM
Groin, no sir, we are putting down 20% – the first place said it was declining by 6% in that area, but since it’s rural it’s because there are no two places alike and no places in our price range that are selling right now.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:33 PM
Are they making you put more $$ down because it’s considered a declining market?
Don’t get him off topic groin, you fucking groin. We need the important stuff, like SIL tits, crazy b/f, cops, drunken car chases, father-in-law wielding shotguns, etc.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:33 PM
The dad-in-law is ready to go out and meet them with a .357 on him. the mother-in-law is pleading for him not to but he says before they get there “i’ll only be aiming to wound”.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:33 PM
Ohhh so Rollo’s story isn’t that he banged his sister-in-law? What a disappointing TBLAD summoning.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:35 PM
Is that what you’re hoping for? Go watch Jason Campbell vs Caleb Hanie.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:35 PM
I see, no comparable sales. Still have that problem here in Minnesota to an extent but nowhere near as bad as a few years ago. Hard to judge the value of a house when there are so few sales. The rural area just compounds the problem. Wish you good luck.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:36 PM
Ohhh so Rollo’s story isn’t that he banged his sister-in-law
/Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:36 PM
Dad goes out to meet them in the driveway after the SIL got in the BF car. He yells for her to get out, they both do, and an argument begins involving all three.
Eventually, BF says “fuck you and your family, kristen, let’s go” – i’m half hoping he shoots the guy, half hoping he doesn’t so he doesn’t get arrested or whatever would happen
August 9th, 2012 at 9:36 PM
SIL turns to the the BF and yells “why would you say that about my family?” – dad tells the BF to get off his property – BF thinks about continuing on but had to know the dad wasn’t messing around with his gun ready, so he peels out and leaves.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:38 PM
The in-laws and SIL are now arguing in the house. They tell her to either stop seeing him or find a new place, you have a week. She slams her door, wakes my wife and baby up, but that seems like it could be the end of it.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:39 PM
Not hoping, that was just what I assumed after reading the comments in this thread. I have only been in the round-up sporadically the past month or two so I know zero back story.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:40 PM
Thinking all is clear, SIL makes a surprise appearance. Flat out says she wants to do “something” with me to make her BF jealous. i said “what does something mean?” she says “lets get wasted and fuck around in the basement”
August 9th, 2012 at 9:41 PM
Ohhh so Rollo’s story isn’t that he banged his sister-in-law
Yea I have to say, I joked about that when you first started with this story. But then when i Read that again it’s like man…that does just sound weird.
/Issues have I
August 9th, 2012 at 9:44 PM
living with in-laws cuz we cant get a home loan for the house we want. sister-in-law weirdly flirted, then tricked me into seeing her topless, then was hammered and wanted to hook up. some other stuff that no one else wants to hear right now.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:45 PM
50 Shades of Batshit Crazy
/SIL autobiography
August 9th, 2012 at 9:46 PM
rea dthrough the baseball post. love how the writers on here say “go start your own blog” lol
August 9th, 2012 at 9:46 PM
Hey sportsgal, reading any good books lately?
August 9th, 2012 at 9:46 PM
i said “dont you find that wrong?” she says “no one else would know”, i said “and your boyfriend?” and she says “i’m gonna tell him we did either way so you might as well just do it”
August 9th, 2012 at 9:46 PM
/ears perk up
August 9th, 2012 at 9:47 PM
i said “what does something mean?” she says “lets get wasted and fuck around in the basement”
See, I wish you’d have called her out like this sooner and made her say EXACTLY what she wanted from you. Now that it’s out in the open, persay…GO ON…
August 9th, 2012 at 9:47 PM
Kelly Lynch is so fucking hot in Road House.
/things you already know…
August 9th, 2012 at 9:47 PM
i said “now they will” and showed her that i was recording what she said (thanks to i think Scripty for the idea)
August 9th, 2012 at 9:48 PM
Rollo, how long are you going to be stuck in this house? What will happen when your wife finds out her sister is hitting on you?
August 9th, 2012 at 9:48 PM
Hey vlad, im hoping for a chris perez appearance and meltdown tonight.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:48 PM
Rut Roh.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:48 PM
What happened to the sex dungeon in the barn?
August 9th, 2012 at 9:48 PM
I just realized how much preseason football sucks.
I hear people say, preseason is better than no football, well to me, no its not. From the startes hardly playing, to the horrible regional announce teams, to just watching bad ugly football with replacement officials, it sucks.
Ill start paying attention come week one.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:48 PM
“i’m gonna tell him we did either way so you might as well just do it”
At which point I bash her head in with a shovel and make it look like the jackass BF did it.
/did I say that out loud?
August 9th, 2012 at 9:48 PM
Wake the wife and son up and we just grab whatever clothes and things we can and hit the road by 2am. Drove to my parents house and got there after 4am. Told my wife the entire story on the way there. With the final audio. I never really feared she wouldn’t believe me. Just thought it would be tough to break this news about her sister.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:49 PM
Usain Bolt calling out Carl Lewis and saying he has no respect for him, nice.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:49 PM
Saltalamacchia is italian word for “can’t hit a breaking ball”. Jackass
August 9th, 2012 at 9:50 PM
No, unfortunately. I’m in a fast pace Health IT certification program right now so I spend most of my reading time studying.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:50 PM
Roadhouse!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:50 PM
I’m confused. What happend between “don’t you think that’s wrong to “they’ll believe me now”.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:50 PM
Wasnt Salty a higly touted prospect?
August 9th, 2012 at 9:51 PM
Rollo, im glad you told your wife. Thats what crackerjack was busting your balls over – just tell the wife.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:51 PM
Not only did she believe me about everything, but when she told her parents about it on the phone the next day, she found out some crazy shit about her sister:
SIL has an unbelievable history with this sort of thing, the most notable being that she stalked one of her high school coaches, accused him of hooking up with her, he was asked to “resigned”, then they found out it was all bullshit. She’s been in counseling and on medication for a few years, but when she stops taking meds and drinks alcohol it’s a crazy combo.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:52 PM
ROBOT HOOOUUUUSSSE!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:52 PM
Rondoman, he has terrible plate discipline. Its boom or bust with him
August 9th, 2012 at 9:52 PM
Can’t wait!
Dip question. Anyone tried Scoal Xtra pouches? I’m thinking about trying it out since when I used to dip Skoal loose, they had a bunch of flavors I really liked(Green Apple, Cherry, Mint etc).
August 9th, 2012 at 9:53 PM
i said “now they will” and showed her that i was recording what she said (thanks to i think Scripty for the idea)
Or that. That works too. I think.
/gets shovel ready anyway
August 9th, 2012 at 9:53 PM
Well, I’ve never been in any situation like this to know what to do. WHhich is why i was asking people i’ve never met on here what to do. but it was gonna be tough to say, hey, your sister is trying to make moves on me. that’s fucked up.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:53 PM
Yeah I understand but wasnt he highly touted coming up in the Braves organization or am I mis-remembering?
August 9th, 2012 at 9:56 PM
Yes it is. Of course, sounds like she is as well
August 9th, 2012 at 9:56 PM
and the boyfriend is messed up too, last December the SIL was out with her roommates for a bday party at a Naperville bar. The BF showed up, pulled her aside, and made her stay with him the rest of the time. When they got back to the apartment he went at it with the roommates (all females), including backing a girl into the wall, both arms on the wall holding her there and threatening her. Restraining order from that. One week later, SIL was back with him, so the roommates kicked her out and she had nowhere to stay for the last semester of college.
/made for each other
August 9th, 2012 at 9:58 PM
I offered her a room in our house since we were within driving distance. That nearly happened, but she found a last-minute vacancy on campus. That’s what started her thing with me, it turns out. Other than wanting the stable relationship her sister has, she knew her BF hated me because I didn’t give him the time of day at some family party and a wedding where he was there (as in I didn’t make eye contact and ignored him because he’s a d-bag).
August 9th, 2012 at 9:58 PM
A real life McPoyle situation…wish you hadn’t posted a photo so I could picture her being Margaret McPoyle
August 9th, 2012 at 9:59 PM
So I guess that made me the perfect mark for pissing the BF off AND being someone she couldn’t have, which seems to be her thing. Her plan was to mess around with me, tell the BF about it, and god knows what that would have led to. I’m thinking if this all went on for another week, I would be dead in one way or another.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:59 PM
She’s actually pretty cute in real life I think….
August 9th, 2012 at 10:01 PM
We stayed at my parents for two days but it’s really not an option because of the 2+ hour distance to work every day for my wife, which she starts tomorrow. Went to Wisconsin for three nights but we are now back at the fucking in-laws.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:02 PM
Actress who plays mcpoyle
August 9th, 2012 at 10:03 PM
If _someone_ on the internet hadn’t gone Bloguin, there’d be an interview with her for you to read.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:03 PM
Ya, great eyes. I’d smash that gash.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:06 PM
What’s with the massive ad for UFC on each side of my screen? Fuck UFC and their $60 fights.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:10 PM
/Licks lips in nauseating fashion
August 9th, 2012 at 10:10 PM
great, rollo. you are unharmed, she is found out and i was right all along
next?
August 9th, 2012 at 10:12 PM
So you’re out in Naperthrill? how fun for you. Where is your wife’s office?
August 9th, 2012 at 10:12 PM
i have a tape recording story
August 9th, 2012 at 10:12 PM
What’s with you dopes that don’t have ad-block?
/haven’t seen an ad in years..
August 9th, 2012 at 10:15 PM
maybe it makes us feel important, wanted, wooed, vladdy
August 9th, 2012 at 10:15 PM
Lakers-Magic-Nuggets-76ers trade reportedly complete, awaiting approval on friday
August 9th, 2012 at 10:15 PM
Anyone that wants her can have her, she’s actually looking for a place to stay now”
http://illpolo.com/k2.jpg
August 9th, 2012 at 10:16 PM
What’s with you dopes that don’t have ad-block?
Normally I don’t. Nazi work computer usually takes care of blocking everything. As I’ve said before, I’m surprised it doesn’t block this site.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:17 PM
We are rural now, beyond Naperville, Plainfield, and so on. Living in a small ranch on a farm with a four-month old with nowhere to really move in the house. Wife/baby go through the process of feeding and sleeping and i sleep on the couch for the half the night, but last week the sister in law made that tough. hence the getting on the ATV and riding around the yard for hours thing from lats week.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:18 PM
SIL left to stay with the BF for a few days but is due back on Saturday, so we have to figure out where to stay until the loan closes on the 15th. At least everyone in the house knows what’s going on. But we honestly don’t know what we’re gonna do. It’s a countdown to getting a loan, the SIL either staying away and living with the BF or cutting it off with him and being in the house, or getting some cheap motel for as many days as possible and only going to the house when the SIL isn’t there.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:19 PM
Anyone that wants her can have her, she’s actually looking for a place to stay now”
Why so serious?
August 9th, 2012 at 10:19 PM
Strong man rollo, strong man.
And are the Lakers actually better after that trade?
August 9th, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Important part of the story is that Rollo actually got his loan OKd
August 9th, 2012 at 10:21 PM
Geez
What are your thoughts on Jay-Bo? I think he would flourish in Detroit. But I’ve heard so many bad things about him. Hate his cap hit and unless he comes to the Wings for depth players and non top notch prospects I’m against it.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:22 PM
Yea, Rollo, she looks pretty crazy in that picture. I wouldn’t trust her while I was sleeping. You can keep her.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:23 PM
That didn’t actually happen. They gave us a closing date IF type thing. We are supposed to know by tomorrow about that. As of Monday they could tell us nothing. WTF.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:23 PM
Vlad,
Who knows. They only gave up Bynum. Id rather have him than Dwight but i guess the lakers would rather have the defense and bad offensive production. I think the nuggets get worse by losing harrington and afflalo and adding Iggy. Sixers definitely get better. Magic get a ton of decent pieces.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:23 PM
I’d still look at her tits though.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:24 PM
Vlad, sabres seem to be going hard after a Bobby Ryan trade
August 9th, 2012 at 10:25 PM
She’s already on her way to see you. All I told was New York. So you have time. Remember, she’s a space cadet.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:27 PM
Rollo, you’ve left out an important detail in this story…… what model ATV have you been riding?
/faps thinkin about bangin Rollo’s SIL in sex dungeon in barn
August 9th, 2012 at 10:27 PM
She’s already on her way to see you. All I told was New York. So you have time. Remember, she’s a space cadet.
Well, good. She can go live with A.P. then. I was born in New York, but have since left.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:28 PM
Vladdy,
He’s never going to produce enough offense to justify that cap hit, but only 2 years left on the deal. Personally I really like him, he’s a horse, easily eat up 25+ minutes a night, playing some tougher minutes, really good fit for Babcock’s system. Think he can be had for a moderate price, Flames need to shed salary.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:29 PM
It’s a Ranger. Polaris Ranger XP.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:31 PM
That sucks
August 9th, 2012 at 10:31 PM
Want the Wings in on Ryan. Flip, Pullkinen + a prospect.
Geez
It all depends on the price. Flames fans are irrational. Mentioning Flip, Ericsson and a good prospect. Or Smith and Nyquist in deals.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:31 PM
http://www.utvblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/2011-Polaris-RangerXP800BrowningLEa.jpg
There’s the ATV. I haven’t seen the inside of the barn. Some of this place reminds me of either House of 1000 Corpses or Chainsaw Massacre at night.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:33 PM
I think Groin had it right. Something about comps or comparables or something is why we can’t buy it. As in the price we agreed to isn’t up to par for them, but I’m not sure that we can just get the sellers to lower the price, even though they are screwed too. It just sucks all around.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:34 PM
I would totally fuck that ATV behind my wife’s back
August 9th, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Sexy ATV > Sexy Ambulance
August 9th, 2012 at 10:35 PM
I think the best Uncle Feaster does is a high pick and a B+ prospect.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:41 PM
3rd round pick, Emmerton, Oullete/Sproul?
Don’t wanna give up Oullete or Sproul but don’t wanna deal Jurco or Tatar either.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:49 PM
Shitty situation all around. You and the seller agree on a price but the appraisal comes in too low because there just aren’t enough sales to support the value. The appraiser is required to use sales of similar homes in your neighborhood on similar acreage that have sold in the last 6 months. Tough to put values on homes when there are so few buyers. Banks won’t loan you money in this situation because the loan won’t be eligible for sale on the secondary market. I lost my business because of this kind of shit so I know exactly what you’re dealing with.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:53 PM
Groin, the worst part is with the first lender, the appraisal was actually $500 more than the sale price. That’s what made the 3+ wait so difficult. We actually had the appraisal from the first lender looked at by the second lender before going to them and they said it looks good but…they’ll have to do their own. So now we wait another 3+ weeks again. How the hell will the market pick up if they turn down buyers in these situations?
August 9th, 2012 at 11:03 PM
Appraisals are like snowflakes, no two are the same. About a year ago I had to have two appraisals for a property. The first came in at $535,000 and the second one came it $625,000.
Nobody in the lending business is concerned with helping the market pick up. Banks are paralyzed with fear because half the Dodd Frank policies haven’t been finalized two fucking years after the shitty law was passed!
Wells Fargo just left the wholesale business because the feds sued them over some disparate impact bullshit. Wells got scared, paid a big fine, and got out of the business. Now, they won’t work with brokers anymore.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:07 PM
Groin, I appreciate the info especially considering you coming out of retirement to post here. We are going through Freddie instead of Fannie this time around, not sure if that makes a ton of difference. My only questions would be if this also falls through, do the sellers have to say “oh shit, let’s lower the price” because no one is gonna be able to buy there or house and…well, wtf do i do if i have to live with the in-laws and the crazy one returns but, probably not something many can answer.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:11 PM
groin do refinances always cost money?
August 9th, 2012 at 11:11 PM
“oh shit, let’s lower the price” because no one is gonna be able to buy there or house and…well, wtf do i do if i have to live with the in-laws and the crazy one returns but, probably not something many can answer.
Probably going to jack the price up if they ever find out how desperate you are to get away from SIL.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:12 PM
Funny you say that, because the lender IS from this area and is the mom of one of SIL’s friends.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:13 PM
Also not funny, damnit, Meth.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:14 PM
Is this what TBLAD looks like?
August 9th, 2012 at 11:15 PM
Funny you say that, because the lender IS from this area and is the mom of one of SIL’s friends.
That just sounds like a web of disappointment and shit. Maybe you ought to just consider changing school districts and state. Might be the only true escape.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:16 PM
It varies from night to night, ritty. Tonight was a slow one as of late
August 9th, 2012 at 11:16 PM
Not a problem. I was a regular here for a long time but had a disagreement with management about year ago. I hadn’t even clicked on this site again until last week.
Are the sellers motivated to sell? You’ll have a much better chance of getting them to lower their price if they’re buying a new place themselves. It’s your realtor’s job to figure this out. Hopefully he/she isn’t representing the seller too.
No easy answer to your last question. Sounds like a toxic environment for a family with a newborn.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:16 PM
not at all
August 9th, 2012 at 11:17 PM
Not always. You can choose a higher interest rate in return for lower closing costs.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:19 PM
They’ve been on the market for 1.5 years and have lowered by $75K in that time. We tried for way lower than that but found that they didn’t have to sell but all their kids are gone now so don’t need the space. They are still there over two weeks later so I’m thinking they did what we did…sold ours and figured the rest out later.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:19 PM
Hi boys. Heard I could find a good time here. Got some Bud Light Premium out in the ATV. Mind if I bring it in?
August 9th, 2012 at 11:21 PM
thanks groin. i’d love to take advantage of the lower rates but i’m queasy to plunk down 1500
August 9th, 2012 at 11:21 PM
I do remember the Tobias Funke, Arrested Development grav from Groin…maybe vez can recruit you to stay with TBLAD. We pretty much stay J-Mac free. He already owes us all two beers for showing up late night.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:24 PM
You should be able to roll it into your loan instead of paying out of pocket. $1,500 is nothing if it lowers your monthly payment a significant amount or reduces the term of your loan. Give me some specifics, what’s your current rate and and how long do you plan on staying in your house?
August 9th, 2012 at 11:26 PM
Thanks but I prefer to make my occasional smartass comments at TVF. I’d prefer not to have my page views put money in Jason’s pocket.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:27 PM
we might be as high as 6, and want to move up in house next year. four months from paying off a second mortgage, can’t wait. probably best to stay if we’re going to sell in a year huh?
August 9th, 2012 at 11:31 PM
Well Vez, after hearing Rollo’s tale, how confident are you that you’ll be able to sell your house at a fair price next year? You certainly don’t want to pay closing costs to refinance if you’re looking at the short term.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:31 PM
maybe vez can recruit you to stay with TBLAD
influencing is another commenter’s deal
jay v of considerable influence
btw, nada changed his name to something fancy
August 9th, 2012 at 11:33 PM
She’ll fit right in in LA. Let me know if she moves here so I can stay inside forever.
/Sunset Strip Look
August 9th, 2012 at 11:34 PM
Need more in my TBL fantasy football league.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:35 PM
hate hearing that but def understand. your advice in two days has been highly valuable.
i hope its something like Nothing, Nope, or Zero. Zero would be a good change.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:41 PM
i know groin. we put so much down tho that even tho we are resigned to not selling for what we paid, even if it drops 30k we will still make a good chunk. and the market for buyers now is so tempting
August 9th, 2012 at 11:44 PM
hate hearing that but def understand. your advice in two days has been highly valuable.I appreciate that. Your tale hit on two of my passions, mortgage financing and family. I have two kids ages 5 and 2 and I’m married to a trophy wife (she hates when I call her that). I’m also in my 40′s so I have years of bad decision making behind me.
I like Zilch. Has a nice ring to it.
/bed time for me
//take care all
August 9th, 2012 at 11:45 PM
It’s all relative. The house you’ll buy used to be worth a lot more too.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:47 PM
The house you’ll buy used to be worth a lot more too.
that’s good, right? the hard part is selling
August 9th, 2012 at 11:47 PM
thanks Groin. appreciate your efforts more in light of your comments.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:50 PM
in case Groin doesn’t return, that’s what we’ve tried to do with our situation in selling for a loss and then buying for what we think is enough to make up for it.
we basically had to go big to make up for it, otherwise we were losing money.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:59 PM
Slow nothing. Just read Rollo’s story that I’ve been hearing about.
August 10th, 2012 at 3:21 AM
Is Rollo here?
I been waiting for hours out in the barn. He promised me a ride on his ATV, if you know what I mean.
Man, I am really, really hot. And sweaaaaaty. I went to the fair, I been drinking them Bud Platinums all night. Whoo-hooooo!
Where are you, Rollo.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:53 AM
Genius