Anyone have any data regarding the profitability of the DII, DIII and NAIA programs (or whatever they’re called now)? I’m sure the Carnegie Mellon Titans and Rose-Hulman Engineers are turning a sizable profit with their football programs.

I went to Trinity University in San Antonio (DIII). When I was there, they had the Melberger Award winner (DIII Heisman), a tournament team every year (cause DIII does it right), a championship game the year @ 2003…….and about 200 people in the stands. I can’t imagine that they are making any money.

/thinks that was the point you were making

What’s lower than a serf?

Nada Surf?

wtf? I had a small loan too. You’re killing your own argument by arguing that the cost of education is so high now. Good gawd you’re runnin’ in circles here. You can’t have it both ways.

So I paid for all of this (couldn’t afford tutors) after working two jobs every summer. What does that make me? What’s lower than a serf?

What year? Not possible anymore unless you second job is venture capital backing.

What’s lower than a serf?

A sports blog commenter.

cannon fodder

So I paid for all of this (couldn’t afford tutors) after working two jobs every summer. What does that make me? What’s lower than a serf?

Cool so players are being taxed 99% for the good of the land they rent to be on through labour? How are they not serfs?

Free tuition, room & board, books, food, facility use, tutors, etc etc. I wasn’t a history major, but I don’t remember reading about serfs who received all of these things.

I’m sure the Carnegie Mellon Titans and Rose-Hulman Engineers are turning a sizable profit with their football programs.

CMU has a football team? I thought it was just a place to cut through and steal shit on your way back from parties!

/rainbows

Your arrogance in asking a group of people to voluntarily give up established revenue amazes me, Huff. Are you sure you don’t own an NHL team?

If you are such a bleeding heart, why don’t YOU give up some of your money so we see fewer ads here? Oh, because you don’t have to and you like your money, and we are here for free so we have no leverage? I see… how completely unlike your nonsensical point.

Anyone have any data regarding the profitability of the DII, DIII and NAIA programs (or whatever they’re called now)? I’m sure the Carnegie Mellon Titans and Rose-Hulman Engineers are turning a sizable profit with their football programs.

Not to mention the fact that besides paying for most other sports, that football revenue may help build a new research building, update the school’s technology, improve the library, etc. etc.

Cool so players are being taxed 99% for the good of the land they rent to be on through labour? How are they not serfs?

Not to mention the fact that besides paying for most other sports, that football revenue may help build a new research building, update the school’s technology, improve the library, etc. etc.

Now THAT is funny.

I wonder if McTibble gives a shit about the thousands of players who only are able to go to school because of football, that will no longer have a shot because the schools all cancel the program.

What is the profit margin? Is you can’t turn a profit with 50,000 seating stadiums, 8 figure tv deals and underpaid players than what the fuck?

Unless you’re an owner/c-level of an enormous business, this is the model of the economy, for the most part. I’ve earned millions for others all my life. Because they can run a 4.3 or weigh 350lbs their compensation will be rewarded with continuous improvement and hard work just like the rest of us.

Bingo. Not to mention the fact that besides paying for most other sports, that football revenue may help build a new research building, update the school’s technology, improve the library, etc. etc. People on here act as though the schools are keeping all the money hidden in vaults so the slaves can’t get to it.

That is a sweeping statement that in many, many cases is not true. Football is hardly a revenue positive sport across all of D1, FBS or FCS.

Maybe, maybe not. IMO it is if you factor in all the intangibles (national awareness, increased applications, alumni donations, etc).

–Sincerely, the proliferation of athletic budget supporting student fees

And we end up with those schools still fielding teams and playing games with players not on scholly

The upkeep of fields, equipment, training staff, insurance, coaches… you can’t possibly be serious? Why not just give every male freshman a concussion and a c-spine injury when they first arrive on campus, and cut out the middle man. Football has to be for-profit at that level.

Dropping football would kill all athletics.

That is a sweeping statement that in many, many cases is not true. Football is hardly a revenue positive sport across all of D1, FBS or FCS.

And we end up with those schools still fielding teams and playing games with players not on scholly, simply b/c they want to play, in front of 2,400 people and underfunded. Nothing wrong with that. Let’s do it.