Chip Kelly Will Have Private Hot Tub Video Center in Oregon’s New Football Facility **UPDATE**

Chip Kelly Will Have Private Hot Tub Video Center in Oregon’s New Football Facility UPDATE

All, College Football Ty Duffy July 17th. 2012, 12:08pm

Phil Knight is building Oregon a new $68 million football facility set to open in 2013, which will encompass 130,000 square feet. The facility intends to be the best in the United States, “pro or college.” It will open just three years after Knight’s $41 million Jaqua Center opened in 2010.

The undoubted highlight will be Chip Kelly’s office, equipped with a private hot tub and a “waterproofed video center” allowing him to watch film while he unwinds. Hopefully, there is a matte silver rubber duck involved.

Oregon’s players will have climate controlled lockers, but will still be unable to have their scholarships extended to cover the full cost of attendance.

[Photo via Presswire]

Update: Oregon denies the Register-Guard report Chip Kelly’s hot tub was ever part of the plans for the new facility. Disappointing.

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117 Responses to “Chip Kelly Will Have Private Hot Tub Video Center in Oregon’s New Football Facility UPDATE”

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ms621 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
How interesting.
/vomits
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:12 PM
He is a fair and noble owner of souls, though his liberalism in serf treatment make him the least popular land owner in his village.
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YYSA Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:13 PM
Needs more Oregon Cheerleaders.
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ms621 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:14 PM
He is a fair and noble owner of souls, though his liberalism in serf treatment make him the least popular land owner in his village.
You make this comparison so much that I’m thinking there is no way you didn’t major in Medieval Studies.
/or maybe 13th Century Agrarian Economics
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spencer096 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:17 PM
Oregon’s players will have climate controlled lockers, but will still be unable to have their scholarships extended to cover the full cost of attendance.
willie lyles has the other portion covered…we’re all good.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:17 PM
The undoubted highlight will be Chip Kelly’s office, equipped with a private hot tub and a “waterproofed video center”
In a few years, when he gets caught in the hot tub with the female “assistant director of football administration”, we can all say we saw this coming, right?
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:18 PM
/or maybe 13th Century Agrarian Economics
Ah no, merely read Dead Souls by Googol and I think it’s hilarious.
/team fiction
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bsanders37 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:18 PM
Go Ducks.
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
In a few years, when he gets caught in the hot tub with the female “assistant director of football administration”, we can all say we saw this coming, right?
Better place than a motorcycle, this has a door and worst case scenario she can hold her breath.
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ms621 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:20 PM
Oregon’s players will have climate controlled lockers, but will still be unable to have their scholarships extended to cover the full cost of attendance.
I certainly can’t speak for every school (though I’m sure this is probably the case at most FBS programs), but football players at SMU have full scholarship, have either full on campus room and board covered, have their university mandated health insurance covered, usually have most or all of their books covered, have their parking passes covered, and if they live off campus receive a pretty nice stipend. This doesn’t even count if they are Pell Grant eligible (which a lot of football players are) or the benefits they receive in terms of access to their own dining facilities and academic counseling.
So, for the eleventy-millionth time…What the hell are you talking about?
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molemaninthemorning Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Pampered slaves.
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mizerle06 is sarah phillips Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:22 PM
Hopefully, there is a matte silver rubber duck involved.
had to read that twice…thought it said something else the first time.
/coop
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Babar 2.0 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
So, for the eleventy-millionth time…What the hell are you talking about?
I was wondering the same thing…
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TimmyTheEnchanter Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
On the top floor will be a 2,285-square-foot players lounge and deck, the blueprints show. On a lower floor will be an industrial-sized kitchen, 150-seat dining hall and a 50-seat private dining room.
The football players will have 124 climate controlled lockers, each equipped with an iPod dock and charging station.
Sounds significantly nicer than a sweat shop, I’d say.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
Better place than a motorcycle, this has a door and worst case scenario she can hold her breath.
Diver down!
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cracker jack Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:24 PM
So, for the eleventy-millionth time…What the hell are you talking about?
I was wondering the same thing…
Tatoos?
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njensen79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Oregon’s players will have climate controlled lockers, but will still be unable to have their scholarships extended to cover the full cost of attendance.
Guess who else doesn’t have scholarships? Those kids who can’t afford to go to college so they join the military to pay for it, but it still isn’t fully covered so they have to pay out of their own pocket to finish a degree.
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Jason McIntyre Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Nate – you just picked out my favorite sentence in the post.
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:27 PM
Guess who else doesn’t have scholarships? Those kids who can’t afford to go to college so they join the military to pay for it, but it still isn’t fully covered so they have to pay out of their own pocket to finish a degree.
Well why the fuck would kids go?
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mizerle06 is sarah phillips Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:27 PM
the hell is Nate?
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Babar 2.0 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:27 PM
Who the fuck is Nate?
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molemaninthemorning Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:28 PM
And most nonsensical. Go figure.
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spencer096 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
Guess who else doesn’t have scholarships? Those kids who can’t afford to go to college so they join the military to pay for it, but it still isn’t fully covered so they have to pay out of their own pocket to finish a degree.
funny…id considering enlisting just to help pay off my student loans.
IT’S THE CIRCLE OF LIFE. hakuna matata, gunny.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
so they join the military to pay for it, but it still isn’t fully covered so they have to pay out of their own pocket to finish a degree.
Is tuition assistance still available for DoD members?
In the old days (gets out the rocking chair), TA covered 75% of tuition, but you incurred a 2-year commitment each time you used it (counted concurrently, though).
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ms621 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
And not to let the facts get in the way of a good story, Duffy, but if a full scholarship athlete is Pell Grant eligible, they actually can and usually do receive the Pell Grant in excess of Cost of Attendance. Student Athletes are some of the only individuals who may receive aid in excess of the COA limit because Pell is an entitlement for those who are eligible.
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
Can the schools take out insurance policies on their players? Baylor with RGIII, if he went down it would cost the school a great deal of money.
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RexKramerDangerSeeker Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
Nate – you just picked out my favorite sentence in the post.
Ohhh, Nate did.
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ms621 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
funny…id considering enlisting just to help pay off my student loans.
I don’t think the Army’s marching band has an electric guitar section.
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Coach Mike Woodson, Atlanta Hawks Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:33 PM
Nate, you scoundrel.
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spencer096 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:34 PM
I don’t think the Army’s marching band has an electric guitar section.
cmon…you and i both know that im after a glorious viking death. i WANT to be fodder. it appeals to the russian in me.
/no coopovich
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ms621 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:36 PM
cmon…you and i both know that im after a glorious viking death. i WANT to be fodder. it appeals to the russian in me.
/no coopovich
The Viking concept of Valhalla, the afterlife where every dead viking feasts all night in a great hall and then goes out the next morning to do battle before returning again to the great hall, day after day after day, sounds pretty fantastic to me.
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:36 PM
Pampered slaves.
If you overtax your serfs in the harvest they will flee, travelling for up to a year before joining with a new landowner in a far away city or being arrested.
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spencer096 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:38 PM
The Viking concept of Valhalla, the afterlife where every dead viking feasts all night in a great hall and then goes out the next morning to do battle before returning again to the great hall, day after day after day, sounds pretty fantastic to me.
a) institutional population and genetic control
b) daily feasts
c) scandinavian chicks
d) excellent at crew
i think we’ve found my platform for when i run against jersey.
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njensen79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Nate – you just picked out my favorite sentence in the post.
I imagine you were smiling maniacally when posting this article knowing how it would rile up some of the people in here.
Seriously though, I will never feel sorry for these kids. I didn’t have the best grades in school so I never qualified for a scholarship and my parents are dirt poor so no way could they pay/cosign a loan on my tuition. I did my time in the military, while going to school using my GI bill and paying out of pocket when it ran out. It took me a very long time to finally graduate while balancing work and school. I had to deal with transferring credits when I changed duty stations, then losing credits because some schools don’t always accept credits or deem them enough. I got to deal with professors who assume that because I was military, I was either a republican or a baby killer (true story), I never got a free meal or got to live for free in a dorm, I never got a check from the university only bills.
These kids get a ton of free shit, private tutors, paid meals, and access to the best facilities the university has to offer. It’s true that people make money off of them and they don’t see anything in the form of monetary compensation, but in my mind, the education part trumps that compared to how 99.9% of the rest of the kids their age get treated when it comes to college.
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ms621 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
a) institutional population and genetic control
b) daily feasts
c) scandinavian chicks
d) excellent at crew
i think we’ve found my platform for when i run against jersey.
Needs more Immigrant Song.
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HtownHacker Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
if a full scholarship athlete is Pell Grant eligible, they actually can and usually do receive the Pell Grant in excess of Cost of Attendance. Student Athletes are some of the only individuals who may receive aid in excess of the COA limit because Pell is an entitlement for those who are eligible.
Stop confusing us with facts.
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squawkbox Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
cmon…you and i both know that im after a glorious viking death.
He dreams of Helga’s horned helmet impaling him during fellatio.
/6 submits
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Babar 2.0 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:41 PM
I figured out who Nate is!
/adjusts Junior JMac Detective badge
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spencer096 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:42 PM
Needs more Immigrant Song.
ON WE SWEEP WITH A REFRESHING S’MORE OUR ONLY GOAL WILL TO BE GET ONE MORE.
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squawkbox Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:45 PM
what Nate said …
/I’ve been saying it for years – he just said it better.
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cleet Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:46 PM
c) scandinavian chicks
d) excellent at crew
Yessir!
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:46 PM
they don’t see anything in the form of monetary compensation, but in my mind, the education part trumps that
A degree has never been worth less that it is presently with 53% unemployed or underemployed. Not saying I now how to fix this in lieu of the education bubble and recession, I am just saying serfdom and education is not fair compensation.
If I had to choose between this being grossly unfair and no college football I would say fuck em keep playing. But it’s disingenuous to think this is adequate compensation.
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:47 PM
So much grammar fail, perhaps I need a communications degree.
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ms621 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:48 PM
If I had to choose between this being grossly unfair and no college football I would say fuck em keep playing. But it’s disingenuous to think this is adequate compensation.
And what about everything else they receive beyond the education?
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njensen79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
But it’s disingenuous to think this is adequate compensation.
Is it really? Think back to the last time you looked at a football team and thought, man if these guys didn’t play football, they would be great doctors and lawyers!
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ms621 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
And soused, using figures from the current economic climate to make a broad based judgment on the value of education is also disingenuous.
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:53 PM
And what about everything else they receive beyond the education?
Chip Kelley makes $1 million yearly has a fucking hot tub in his office and after 4 years these kids are left with maybe a degree and some free shoes, less debt.
The lot of all students in America is super fucking shitty but I don’t see why that allows some landowners to churn out an awesome living with a 40 hour week labor force paid less than minimum wage.
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Nada Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Soused, have you ever read The Red and the Black? You’d probably enjoy it. Pretty damn funny.
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ms621 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:55 PM
Chip Kelley makes $1 million yearly has a fucking hot tub in his office and after 4 years these kids are left with maybe a degree and some free shoes, less debt.
That seems less an indictment of the student-athlete system and more an indictment of the state of the educational system that prepares (or fails to prepare) kids for college in the first place.
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Soused, have you ever read The Red and the Black? You’d probably enjoy it. Pretty damn funny.
No I haven’t but will definitively put it on deck.
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TimmyTheEnchanter Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:58 PM
I don’t think the education is adequate compensation, but I’d reevaluate if the University covered football player health insurance for the rest of their lives.
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St. Bear Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Oregon’s players will have climate controlled lockers, but will still be unable to have their scholarships extended to cover the full cost of attendance.
Those poor, poor souls. It’s a testament to the human will to survive, that they’re able to get up out of bed everyday and function.
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:02 PM
state of the educational system that prepares (or fails to prepare) kids for college in the first place.
I could argue that’s a revenue problem which is emblematic of a system that incentivizes the lowest through less and the most successful with more.
Don’t understand how the players are not entitled to actual wages and those profiteering from them are justified? Who spun that?
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TimmyTheEnchanter Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:04 PM
Those poor, poor souls. It’s a testament to the human will to survive, that they’re able to get up out of bed everyday and function.
They are making a choice to play, and I hardly feel bad for them by any stretch.
But at this point the value of that education does not make sense as the compensation based on revenues earned by their labor and the risks involved to the worker.
But like I said, if the schools ponied up for health insurance for life, I’d reevaluate.
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Walking Underwear Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:09 PM
obscene. what that $68 million could do.
at least they get to keep their amateur status. many would think being able to use those facilities, and the other perks mentioned that come with a scholly, constitutes getting paid for services.
barter economy
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ms621 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:10 PM
I could argue that’s a revenue problem which is emblematic of a system that incentivizes the lowest through less and the most successful with more.
I wouldn’t disagree with that per se, but now we’re digging even further into why are the have-nots, have-nots in the first place? Are they failing their primary and secondary schools or are the school districts failing? Is basing school funding on property taxes a way simply to continue to keep poor schools in poor neighborhoods? I don’t think the issue is a collegiate one, I think it’s carried into that system by the kids who are the products of the schools which put them on the path to college in the first place.
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HtownHacker Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:10 PM
A college degree adds like 900K to your lifetime earnings, on average.
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Walking Underwear Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:12 PM
i did not say i was a millionaire. i said i have spent more money than a millionaire
—many blues artists covering somebody’s song
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46yearslump Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:12 PM
But it’s disingenuous to think this is adequate compensation.
It’s a free country. If you don’t feel the compensations is adequate, don’t enroll. It really is that easy.
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:13 PM
at least they get to keep their amateur status. many would think being able to use those facilities, and the other perks mentioned that come with a scholly, constitutes getting paid for services.
Those facilities are used to entice the best and brightest labour force they can in order to maximize profit, same as Google.
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spencer096 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:13 PM
A college degree adds like 900K to your lifetime earnings, on average.
interesting…since i can’t afford to contribute to my 401k and still make payments.
/ok, that’s a lie, i can’t afford to contribute to my 401k because i golf myself bankrupt
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mizerle06 is sarah phillips Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:14 PM
Those facilities are used to entice the best and brightest labour force they can in order to maximize profit, same as Google.
that’s fine…but they still get to use those nice facilities.
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spencer096 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:15 PM
at least they get to keep their amateur status. many would think being able to use those facilities, and the other perks mentioned that come with a scholly, constitutes getting paid for services.
agreed that scholarship college golfers should forfeit their amateur status.
/glares at USGA and R&A
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Walking Underwear Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:16 PM
whew, i was just throwing out some bullshit
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TimmyTheEnchanter Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:16 PM
A college degree adds like 900K to your lifetime earnings, on average.
Leaving aside whether that’s relevant (I don’t think it is), that data is old. A lot has changed since the college class of 1999.
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mizerle06 is sarah phillips Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:16 PM
/ok, that’s a lie, i can’t afford to contribute to my 401k because i golf myself bankrupt
very honest statement, spencer. ballpark…how much do you think you spend on golf annually?
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mizerle06 is sarah phillips Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:17 PM
A lot has changed since the college class of 1999.
Y2K destroyed the hopes and dreams of many a post-1999 college student.
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Walking Underwear Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:18 PM
spencer embodies what i was like as a single guy….if you can;t afford it, charge it, but don;t miss out on fun
/spencer may not charge it
//i damn sure did
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:19 PM
It’s a free country. If you don’t feel the compensations is adequate, don’t enroll. It really is that easy.
That’s total bullshit, following that logic just about single working person should walk out as wages have not risen since the 70′s vs cost of living.
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cracker jack Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:21 PM
very honest statement, spencer. ballpark…how much do you think you spend on golf annually?
/shields my eyes
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HtownHacker Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:22 PM
Leaving aside whether that’s relevant (I don’t think it is), that data is old. A lot has changed since the college class of 1999.
I saw a much more recent study which had the number at around 700K. I think it’s relevant. It’s at least one way to “value” the college education they are being provided. How is that not relevant?
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Walking Underwear Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:29 PM
I saw a much more recent study which had the number at around 700K. I think it’s relevant. It’s at least one way to “value” the college education they are being provided. How is that not relevant?
i’m sure there have been studies on what scholarship athletes do with their degrees, if they get them. degrees just might not be why they chose that school/path in life is all i’m surmising here
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TimmyTheEnchanter Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:30 PM
I saw a much more recent study which had the number at around 700K. I think it’s relevant. It’s at least one way to “value” the college education they are being provided. How is that not relevant?
Because it’s not within the bounds of the relationship of labor/management.
I’m definitely not one to rail against the big, bad university. But the reality is the schools (including management, coaches, whoever) earn revenue through the labor of these players.
What the worker could earn after they are an employee is irrelevant.
Football is an increasingly dangerous job that we are just starting to understand the true dangers of, many of which don’t become apparent until later in life.
At the very least, if you think future earnings potential is relevant (and again, I don’t think it is), well… what if debilitating injury leaves the player unable to recoup that? Changes the equation, right?
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:30 PM
I saw a much more recent study which had the number at around 700K. I think it’s relevant. It’s at least one way to “value” the college education they are being provided. How is that not relevant?
Consider present job market and levels of student debt I would say that the curve is greatly skewed by a few even when things were going well. Tuition has been climbing in leaps since 2000 while job prospects have been falling.
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46yearslump Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:33 PM
That’s total bullshit, following that logic just about single working person should walk out as wages have not risen since the 70′s vs cost of living.
What’s the solution then? What is fair compensation for these poor slaves? Or are you one of these people who bitch about everything and have no answers or alternatives?
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TimmyTheEnchanter Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:34 PM
What’s the solution then? What is fair compensation for these poor slaves?
Guarantee good health coverage for life. For football players.
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46yearslump Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:35 PM
…awaiting Spencer’s calculations on golf related expenses…..
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squawkbox Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:35 PM
Those college football players can attempt to obtain any job they so wish upon graduation from HS. We all can. If that’s as an NFL running back, go for it. If it’s as the CEO of IBM, go for it. If it’s as a project manager, go for it.
While possible, they’re not likely to get any of those w/o first going to college. So they’re getting a pretty fair exchange – an opportunity for more jobs than they currently have in addition to a higher wage. Otherwise, they can run the parking lot paver for the rest of their lives.
/Don’t lecture me on NFL age rules – I know they exist – my point still stands
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TimmyTheEnchanter Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:39 PM
“Despite your compensation being worth less and less each year, and your work being more dangerous than we ever thought and getting more dangerous all the time, and our revenue from your labor growing tremendously, you can take your complaints and shove them.”
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:40 PM
What’s the solution then? What is fair compensation for these poor slaves? Or are you one of these people who bitch about everything and have no answers or alternatives?
See comment 42, shit is complicated.
Merchandise sales percentage doled out equally to team members.
NCAA Likeness should yield a few dollars
Gate
Fuck it just allow beer sales and pay them with that.
Allow players to seek outside endorsement deals
School athletic licensing goes to the players as well
Again, I can live with this being unfair because I love watching college football just calling bullshit on the idea that it’s fair compensation.
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46yearslump Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:42 PM
What’s the solution then? What is fair compensation for these poor slaves?
Guarantee good health coverage for life. For football players.
What a great idea…unless you’re part of the 75% of colleges who wouldn’t be able to afford that. I’m sure Youngstown State and Bowling Green would like a word with you about that proposal. Or should only the really good players who play for a school that makes 50 million/year off the football program qualify for your free insurance?
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St. Bear Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:44 PM
Allow players to seek outside endorsement deals
This right here. Olympic style amateurism. It’s by far the easiest and fairest way. Stars can profit off their name without schools going further into the red paying linemen and backups.
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Monster is Meth Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:44 PM
Good point slump
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squawkbox Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:45 PM
A degree has never been worth less that it is presently with 53% unemployed or underemployed.
But, is it worth zero. I think not; in fact it’s worth a lot more than zero in just opportunity value.
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46yearslump Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:45 PM
Despite your compensation being worth less and less each year
Actually, tuition is rising rapidly, so your compensation of a free education is worth more and more every year. Otherwise, you’d have to, you know, pay for it.
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:47 PM
Those college football players can attempt to obtain any job they so wish upon graduation from HS. We all can. If that’s as an NFL running back.
Soccer players, hockey players, baseball players, basketball (euro league) all have a means to pay for play. Jennings one year was worth I think $250,000 to a team that isn’t even close to being as monetized as college programs. Football player market for their services is set so that they must generate income for others below minimum wage compensation.
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TimmyTheEnchanter Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:50 PM
What a great idea…unless you’re part of the 75% of colleges who wouldn’t be able to afford that. I’m sure Youngstown State and Bowling Green would like a word with you about that proposal. Or should only the really good players who play for a school that makes 50 million/year off the football program qualify for your free insurance?
There is no shortage of money in major college football. We are already heading down the path of a major split between the football schools and everyone else with the super conferences.
Much like no one forces the players to play, no one forces a school to have football. It makes less and less sense all the time.
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ButtersBC Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:52 PM
unless you’re part of the 75% of colleges who wouldn’t be able to afford that
It’s a free country, you don’t have to have a football program
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:53 PM
Actually, tuition is rising rapidly, so your compensation of a free education is worth more and more every year
That’s cost and not value and a sign of the educational bubble that will burst. Again, it’s super shitty being a student in America but because it’s grossly overpriced does not mean it’s fair compensation for working a job that yields hundreds of millions in profits with compensation of living on the land that they afford the school.
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St. Bear Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:54 PM
That’s cost and not value and a sign of the educational bubble that will burst.
Never happen as long as the US government is backing a large number of student loans.
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46yearslump Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:54 PM
There is no shortage of money in major college football. We are already heading down the path of a major split between the football schools and everyone else with the super conferences.
Much like no one forces the players to play, no one forces a school to have football. It makes less and less sense all the time.
Well that makes much more sense than the current system. The smaller percentage of schools that can afford to pay players (your major college football) can continue to have football programs and the others can just drop football. Totally logical.
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TimmyTheEnchanter Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:55 PM
Well that makes much more sense than the current system. The smaller percentage of schools that can afford to pay players (your major college football) can continue to have football programs and the others can just drop football. Totally logical.
You are aware that Division 3 sports exist, yes? Even football?
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Badger Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:56 PM
What a great idea…unless you’re part of the 75% of colleges who wouldn’t be able to afford that.
This is actually a good thing. Force schools that can’t turn a profit not to play college football.
Basically, we’d be left with USC, half the SEC, OSU, Michigan, Texas, maybe ten others…in other words Saturdays would be fucking spectacular. They could even implement a true playoff.
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:57 PM
/adjusts Junior JMac Detective badge
/opens 64 color Crayola box
//starts scribbling conclusions
Much like no one forces the players to play, no one forces a school to have football. It makes less and less sense all the time.
I wonder if McTibble gives a shit about the thousands of players who only are able to go to school because of football, that will no longer have a shot because the schools all cancel the program.
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St. Bear Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:58 PM
Much like no one forces the players to play, no one forces a school to have football. It makes less and less sense all the time
Just off the top of my head, without any stats to back this up, I believe that for a majority of schools, it’s football that pays for most of the other athletic teams. The big paydays they get to come into Columbus, Death Valley, Tuscaloosa, etc, is what funds everyhing else. Dropping football would kill all athletics.
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squawkbox Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:58 PM
does not mean it’s fair compensation for working a job that yields hundreds of millions in profits
Unless you’re an owner/c-level of an enormous business, this is the model of the economy, for the most part. I’ve earned millions for others all my life. Because they can run a 4.3 or weigh 350lbs their compensation will be rewarded with continuous improvement and hard work just like the rest of us.
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:59 PM
Dropping football would kill all athletics.
A perfect world.
/McTibble hates sports’d
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squawkbox Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:02 PM
This is actually a good thing. Force schools that can’t turn a profit not to play college football.
And we end up with those schools still fielding teams and playing games with players not on scholly, simply b/c they want to play, in front of 2,400 people and underfunded. Nothing wrong with that. Let’s do it.
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TimmyTheEnchanter Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:02 PM
Dropping football would kill all athletics.
That is a sweeping statement that in many, many cases is not true. Football is hardly a revenue positive sport across all of D1, FBS or FCS.
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:05 PM
And we end up with those schools still fielding teams and playing games with players not on scholly
The upkeep of fields, equipment, training staff, insurance, coaches… you can’t possibly be serious? Why not just give every male freshman a concussion and a c-spine injury when they first arrive on campus, and cut out the middle man. Football has to be for-profit at that level.
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TimmyTheEnchanter Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:05 PM
“Football is supporting all the athletics at your school so if you like sports at all, we need a football program.”
–Sincerely, the proliferation of athletic budget supporting student fees
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St. Bear Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:05 PM
That is a sweeping statement that in many, many cases is not true. Football is hardly a revenue positive sport across all of D1, FBS or FCS.
Maybe, maybe not. IMO it is if you factor in all the intangibles (national awareness, increased applications, alumni donations, etc).
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46yearslump Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:06 PM
Unless you’re an owner/c-level of an enormous business, this is the model of the economy, for the most part. I’ve earned millions for others all my life. Because they can run a 4.3 or weigh 350lbs their compensation will be rewarded with continuous improvement and hard work just like the rest of us.
Bingo. Not to mention the fact that besides paying for most other sports, that football revenue may help build a new research building, update the school’s technology, improve the library, etc. etc. People on here act as though the schools are keeping all the money hidden in vaults so the slaves can’t get to it.
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:06 PM
I wonder if McTibble gives a shit about the thousands of players who only are able to go to school because of football, that will no longer have a shot because the schools all cancel the program.
What is the profit margin? Is you can’t turn a profit with 50,000 seating stadiums, 8 figure tv deals and underpaid players than what the fuck?
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TimmyTheEnchanter Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:07 PM
Not to mention the fact that besides paying for most other sports, that football revenue may help build a new research building, update the school’s technology, improve the library, etc. etc.
Now THAT is funny.
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:11 PM
Not to mention the fact that besides paying for most other sports, that football revenue may help build a new research building, update the school’s technology, improve the library, etc. etc.
Cool so players are being taxed 99% for the good of the land they rent to be on through labour? How are they not serfs?
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squawkbox Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:11 PM
The upkeep of fields, equipment, training staff, insurance, coaches… you can’t possibly be serious? Why not just give every male freshman a concussion and a c-spine injury when they first arrive on campus, and cut out the middle man. Football has to be for-profit at that level.
Anyone have any data regarding the profitability of the DII, DIII and NAIA programs (or whatever they’re called now)? I’m sure the Carnegie Mellon Titans and Rose-Hulman Engineers are turning a sizable profit with their football programs.
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:12 PM
Athletic departments aren’t going to give up profit they see now. Any money they spend extra on players is going to come from increased student fees or ticket prices.
Your arrogance in asking a group of people to voluntarily give up established revenue amazes me, Huff. Are you sure you don’t own an NHL team?
If you are such a bleeding heart, why don’t YOU give up some of your money so we see fewer ads here? Oh, because you don’t have to and you like your money, and we are here for free so we have no leverage? I see… how completely unlike your nonsensical point.
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:14 PM
I’m sure the Carnegie Mellon Titans and Rose-Hulman Engineers are turning a sizable profit with their football programs.
CMU has a football team? I thought it was just a place to cut through and steal shit on your way back from parties!
/rainbows
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46yearslump Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Cool so players are being taxed 99% for the good of the land they rent to be on through labour? How are they not serfs?
Free tuition, room & board, books, food, facility use, tutors, etc etc. I wasn’t a history major, but I don’t remember reading about serfs who received all of these things.
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squawkbox Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:24 PM
Free tuition, room & board, books, food, facility use, tutors, etc etc. I wasn’t a history major, but I don’t remember reading about serfs who received all of these things.
So I paid for all of this (couldn’t afford tutors) after working two jobs every summer. What does that make me? What’s lower than a serf?
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Walking Underwear Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:27 PM
What’s lower than a serf?
cannon fodder
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:28 PM
What’s lower than a serf?
A sports blog commenter.
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sousedbergin Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:28 PM
So I paid for all of this (couldn’t afford tutors) after working two jobs every summer. What does that make me? What’s lower than a serf?
What year? Not possible anymore unless you second job is venture capital backing.
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squawkbox Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:44 PM
What year? Not possible anymore unless you second job is venture capital backing.
wtf? I had a small loan too. You’re killing your own argument by arguing that the cost of education is so high now. Good gawd you’re runnin’ in circles here. You can’t have it both ways.
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Nada Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:46 PM
What’s lower than a serf?
Nada Surf?
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TrinityPills Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 5:08 PM
Anyone have any data regarding the profitability of the DII, DIII and NAIA programs (or whatever they’re called now)? I’m sure the Carnegie Mellon Titans and Rose-Hulman Engineers are turning a sizable profit with their football programs.
I went to Trinity University in San Antonio (DIII). When I was there, they had the Melberger Award winner (DIII Heisman), a tournament team every year (cause DIII does it right), a championship game the year @ 2003…….and about 200 people in the stands. I can’t imagine that they are making any money.
/thinks that was the point you were making