Shonn Greene is the Most Undervalued Back in Fantasy Football
Shonn Greene as a fantasy football pickup last year? Hated him. This year, I love him. Why has my opinion on the New York Jets running back changed? Well, let’s start with this–my opinion actually hasn’t changed, and I value Shonn Greene very much like I did a year ago. Public perception of his value has swung wildly since last year at this time.
A year ago, many were touting Greene as a breakout candidate for the Jets, and you would occasionally see him drafted in late first rounds of some drafts, and certainly as a high end RB #2. I had him down at around RB19 a year ago, and so there was no way he was going to end up on any of my teams. I had several concerns, which included that I did not see him as an elite talent, and I didn’t think that he was productive enough as a receiver to justify taking him before that spot.
Evan Silva has an interview with Greg Cosell where they talk about Shonn Greene :
“I think that he’s a little bit of a one-speed runner,” Cosell explained, “and I think that’s caught up to him a little bit. I think that he’s a strong kid. I think he can run downhill. I think he can move the pile because he’s got natural strength. But I don’t think there’s much burst to him. I think he’s pretty much of a one-speed runner. And I think those guys eventually struggle.
I don’t disagree with any of that, and I do think that Shonn Greene isn’t going to probably be starring in this league at age 29. I do think, though, that his situation is arguably better this year, and he’s about the same. However, public perception has shifted to where he is currently going off the board as about the 26th running back in fantasy football standard scoring, and 75th overall. By my count, that puts him in about the early 7th round in a 12-team league. LaDainian Tomlinson has retired, and the Jets current depth chart behind Greene is some combination of smaller back Joe McKnight and a cast of guys who have never been in my kitchen. They didn’t spend an early pick on a back, or sign a free agent like Michael Bush to compete with Greene. There is no indication that Greene is going to be replaced this year barring an injury. Last year, he finished as the 18th highest scoring back in a standard league, and over the last half of the season, was 10th in scoring. Splits can be meaningless, but Greene certainly wasn’t declining from a previous benchmark over the last half of last year.
Here are the backs who were most similar to Shonn Greene at age 25 and 26, based on percentage of rush yards to total yards from scrimmage, total yards from scrimmage at age 25 and yards at age 26.
Those are backs who were also mostly runners with very few receiving yards from age 25 to 26, and generally fit Shonn Greene. His numbers are virtually identical to the group, except his yards per carry is actually higher. I listed the results at age 27, and the finish in standard scoring fantasy football. The average was 916 rushing yards, 200 receiving yards, 8 touchdowns, and an average finish of 20.9. Now, a back with an average finish of 20.9 should not actually go 21st at the position, more like 14th or 15th. (I also talked about that regarding Darren Sproles, a player going almost four rounds earlier, where his comps had a median finish the next year of RB26). While I don’t think Greene is going to have a year like Garrison Hearst in 1998, I also think there are several guys that are pretty comparable and could have likewise been described as moderate talents. At least by that age, many of those guys were plodders.
So, even though I think Greene is a middling talent who is not going to produce a top 5 season, I think he also has upside to improve his numbers slightly from last year. I don’t think he has competition, and while there is a concern about Tebow and short yardage, the presence of Tebow did not hurt Willis McGahee last year. Last year, I ended up with a team that “featured” Fred Jackson and C.J. Spiller, and Marshawn Lynch, hardly a fear-inducing pairing at the start of the season, and all available outside the top twenty at the position.
In fantasy football, it’s about looking for inefficiencies and not overreacting when the market swings wildly. I suspect Shonn Greene will be on my team this year if he is still going off the board in the late 20′s, and as late as round 6 or 7.
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July 6th, 2012 at 2:29 PM
Because you are a Jet’s fan with long term memory problems?
Stay away from all Jets this fantasy season.
You have been warned.
July 6th, 2012 at 2:35 PM
Lisk is a Chiefs fan
July 6th, 2012 at 2:39 PM
You can throw as many stats as you want at me on this guy, but he doesn’t pass the eyeball test… even with the entire offense dragging Sanchez around like a boat anchor.
July 6th, 2012 at 2:40 PM
Lisk – does your ranking take into account the rushing defenses that Green will face? Steelers, 49ers, Texans, Seahawks, Dolphins, Pats were all in the top half (Pats at 17) and the Bills should be improved.
July 6th, 2012 at 2:43 PM
Garrison Hearst was a beast…one of those guys who would have done some serious damage if he never got injured.
July 6th, 2012 at 2:45 PM
The red squiggly lines, man. File, Options, Proofing, and clear the checkbox next to “Check spelling as you type.”
Also I just logged on to the site on a computer where I hadn’t installed adblock yet. Holy shit that Sprite ad is worse than the ads on the streaming sites that the coding kills the links to on here.
July 6th, 2012 at 2:49 PM
Arian Foster is the most undervalued back if he’s not valued at no. 1. He’s going to make Chris Johnson’s 2009-2011 run look like it was oridnary this year.
July 6th, 2012 at 2:54 PM
I don’t think there was a question that Arian Foster is #1. LeSean McCoy and MJD are interchangeable at 2 & 3.
July 6th, 2012 at 2:55 PM
Lisk – does your ranking take into account the rushing defenses that Green will face? Steelers, 49ers, Texans, Seahawks, Dolphins, Pats were all in the top half (Pats at 17) and the Bills should be improved.
my final rankings will minimally take this into account. Rush defenses are highly variable from year to year. What was the average ranking of the teams the Jets played last year? That’s what I would adjust, to account for easy or hard past schedules.
July 6th, 2012 at 2:56 PM
Arian Foster is the most undervalued back if he’s not valued at no. 1. He’s going to make Chris Johnson’s 2009-2011 run look like it was oridnary this year.
Foster is going #1 and will be first for me. Richardson is probably undervalued in terms of point projection, but you pass on him round 1 in the middle you aren’t getting him round two. Greene is available in round 7, and I would put a late 4th round on him.
July 6th, 2012 at 2:59 PM
Lisk, and I’m being serious, how does Tebow’s presence affect the amount of carries that Greene will see for the Jets this year? You mentioned the rest of the depth chart actually listed under the heading of RB. Isn’t God’s Son a bit of a wildcard that’s difficult to account for since we really have no idea what the Jets are thinking on offense? And doesn’t their lack of a passing attack threaten to see 8-9 men boxes for Greene?
Love the kid since he’s a former Hawkeye. My only knock on the guy in the NFL has been his suspect hands. Puts the ball on the turf quite a bit.
July 6th, 2012 at 3:02 PM
Isn’t this what we said after Chris Johnson sucked the year after he got 2,000 yards? I don’t play fantasy at all, but how often does a ‘clear’ number one pick actually perform in the top 3? 5? each year? I seem to remember fake LT struggling as the #1 a few times.
July 6th, 2012 at 3:03 PM
So basically I’m asking you to expand on this:
The Broncos are a little smarter under the headset than the Jets. They also knew they couldn’t pass more than a dozen times a game. Jets will still throw the ball 20-25 times with GQ under center.
July 6th, 2012 at 3:03 PM
Don’t draft the kicker… they’re going for two every time!
/ESPN’d
July 6th, 2012 at 3:04 PM
that’s a tough stretch for that offense in general to face with Tebow or Sanchez under center, let alone just the running game.
unless you have a wishbone formation with green as the tailback and sanchez and tebow as the flankers i don’t see how it will change the way defenses played that offense for either QB.
make them beat you with the arm, take away the run.
July 6th, 2012 at 3:05 PM
They faced 2, 3 (x2), 7, 9, 16, 17 (x2), 18, 19, 20, 22, 26, 28 (x2), so I would say probably a medium difficult rush defense last year.
As for my top 5 – Foster, McCoy, Rice, MJD, Megatron
July 6th, 2012 at 3:05 PM
in retrospect he should have been ranked #1 ahead of guys like Priest Holmes and Shaun Alexander in the preseason, since those years he easily outperformed them when all was said and done.
July 6th, 2012 at 3:06 PM
Sorry Lisk!
Thought tbl wrote this.
Still think ur wrong
July 6th, 2012 at 3:06 PM
The only way a Jets QB is beating you with their arm is if it becomes dislodged during a tackle attempt on an interception return and they have no other weapon available to them.
July 6th, 2012 at 3:09 PM
or if the steelers put 10 men in the box and leave a terribly unprepared safety to cover the top.
July 6th, 2012 at 3:10 PM
Dick LeBeau: Genius
July 6th, 2012 at 3:13 PM
I drafted Greene 2 years ago and he totally screwed me. Never again.
July 6th, 2012 at 3:14 PM
I’m not Lisk (although I did stay at a Holiday Inn express last night), but I took this as a reference to Tebow being a possible TD vulture for Shonn Greene. Which could happen.
July 6th, 2012 at 3:15 PM
or if the steelers put 10 men in the box and leave a terribly unprepared safety to cover the top.
Dick LeBeau: Genius
In fairness, how many of us expected Tebow to convert an over the top pass on a go route for the first play from scrimmage?
July 6th, 2012 at 3:17 PM
Too many letters
July 6th, 2012 at 3:18 PM
Plus 8 starters were out with injuries, and the franchise QB was playing on one leg. Steelers are lucky they even made to OT for how banged up they were that night.
July 6th, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Ryan Clark was out with a blood.
July 6th, 2012 at 3:19 PM
that’s why we are commenters on TBL.com, not paid defensive coordinators for an NFL team paid to think of those possibilities and defend against them.
July 6th, 2012 at 3:20 PM
Ryan Clark was out with a blood.
Al Michaels gives his seal of approval to that injury description.
July 6th, 2012 at 3:21 PM
…but for the sparing grace of the banhammer…
July 6th, 2012 at 3:22 PM
that’s why we are commenters on TBL.com, not paid defensive coordinators for an NFL team paid to think of those possibilities and defend against them.
You can’t put together a defensive plan to counter what might happen if Tebow learns how to throw suddenly. You defend against what you think the other team is most likely to do. I don’t think many people expected a pass longer than 5-10 yards, a screen maybe, on the first place.
July 6th, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Fred Jackson!
/didn’t read post
July 6th, 2012 at 3:46 PM
Tebow Haters!!