Comments on: Shocking: Skip Bayless Is Also Wrong About White American Players In the First Round

By: resolutedefense

resolutedefense — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 20:14:39 +0000

Yeah, really good post. If you tell me I’m getting a player like David Lee at #30 or Reddick at #11 I’m definitely going to take it. Doesn’t mean the Warriors didn’t overpay Lee, but still, great work on this. Can’t just look at the player in a vacuum, but where they were taken and the strength of that draft and the players taken around them.

By: got_em_looking

got_em_looking — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 20:05:20 +0000

The problem with Bayless’s statement isn’t the morality of stereotyping since stereotyping is a basic tool, applied outside of conscious awareness, in every single human being’s toolbox for understanding the world. The problem is stereotyping was not necessary.

We stereotype when information is limited. If the only information known about a draft prospect is his race then this is a relevant question. When you draft a white american player you’re not drafting the average performance of every white american player which makes all of this a moot point.

This is akin to standing outside and checking your phone for the current weather. There are far more accurate ways to determine the weather in that situation… now this doesn’t mean checking an online weather forecast (i.e racial stereotyping) is always wrong its just unnecessary in that situation.

By: Monster is Meth

Monster is Meth — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 19:55:43 +0000

George of the jungle looks a little camera shy in that pic

By: Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah!

Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah! — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 18:49:19 +0000

with the exception of Love and maybe Miller, you could have picked up equal value for all of the players who are ranked number 1 in this formula in the second round. Also, there are other factors which comes into play that this story failed to take into account. When ranking win shares of these white players (for whatever thats worth)compared to those drafted around them, did this ranking system take into account factors such as injuries and foreign players who haven’t or never did enter the League? Is Mike Dunleavy Jr. a more worthy pick at 3 in hindsight now because Yao Ming and Jay Williams’ careers were cut short by injury? Stats, advanced or not, are a nice little tool to support an argument, but they aren’t the period at the end of a sentence in one.

By: Nada

Nada — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 18:46:27 +0000

Shocking: Skip Bayless Is Also Wrong About Everything

Pretty much sums it up.

By: heldover

heldover — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 17:58:08 +0000

Never surprised by an awesome Lisk post being buried on the weekend.

/narrative’d

By: A.P.

A.P. — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 17:04:40 +0000

Great post, Lisk

By: dRinATX

dRinATX — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 16:41:51 +0000

You’re turning into a Skip Bayless troll. Can’t you see that? I still don’t understand how anyone can be that offended by Skip’s statements in the first place. Jason Whitlock dropped a bomb about USA’s color-coded dream team that was more ridiculous and more of merit to respond to than this.