The Big 12 Would Want Notre Dame, What Matters is What Notre Dame Wants
The Oklahoman obtained a memo from Chuck Neinas to the Big 12 expansion committee in January. Inside that memo, ESPN and FOX confirmed that Notre Dame would be the only school that “would enhance Big 12 value for television.” The Irish would enhance any conference’s value for television. The Big 12 would want them. The Big Ten would want them. The ACC would be willing to do degrading things to get them, but the essential part of any hypothetical is how joining a conference would benefit Notre Dame. Don’t expect rapid movement on that front.
Would joining Conference X make financial sense? Notre Dame would increase the TV deal for every conference it joined, but is that deal enough to equal or to outdo what the Irish would earn selling their TV rights as an independent? How much of a cut will Notre Dame get from the new postseason structure? The only conference that could probably approach that is the Big Ten. Everyone else is locked down until the mid-2020s. The B1G makes as much as any conference now and renegotiates its first-tier rights in 2017.
Would joining Conference X make competitive sense? College football moves to a playoff in 2014, with a selection committee. How much will Notre Dame’s schedule be valued? Does Notre Dame consistently get boned at 11-1 by 12-1 teams that just won the Pac 12 or the Big Ten? With home, body bag non-conference games only becoming more appealing, will it become increasingly hard to fill-out a top-tier schedule?
Would they be able to join Conference X without football? The Big East isn’t the most stable place to be. If football is viable, it could make sense for the ACC and Big 12 accept Notre Dame’s other sports and work out shared rights on a scheduling deal, with something like two home games and two away per year. If Notre Dame determines it can remain independent indefinitely, this might be a likely scenario.
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June 29th, 2012 at 2:33 PM
Notre Dame has been competitively irrelevant for 20 years
June 29th, 2012 at 2:34 PM
Yet command a national TV audience and are one of the Top Five Revenue programs in the country.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:35 PM
I think Notre Dame is my favorite thing almost every commenter complains about. Let’s do this, folks.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:36 PM
No fat chi… oh right, Indiana.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:37 PM
Fixed that.
/or at least, I tried, if my minimal HTML skills don’t fail me
June 29th, 2012 at 2:37 PM
Fifty Shades Of Grey bestseller what’s your point?
Google sees all.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:38 PM
if they are 11 or 12-1, I honestly doubt it. that would still leave a team each out of the Big 10, Pac 12 and SEC, which would seem fine.
then again, as soon as something like this happens, and there is a fifth team, everyone will be up in arms again begging for a bigger playoff.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:38 PM
College football is a business first, sport second, drumkit for Jason third.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:39 PM
Eat Pray Love sold 8 million copies and the movie grossed $205 million.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:40 PM
Or, “what soused said.”
June 29th, 2012 at 2:41 PM
I’m just wondering what the geniuses think will come back in their search results when they google ‘notre dame suck’
June 29th, 2012 at 2:41 PM
Does Notre Dame consistently get boned at 11-1 by 12-1 teams that just won the Pac 12 or the Big Ten?
Exactly who sees them going 11-1?
June 29th, 2012 at 2:41 PM
Dumb people must be hella rich.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:42 PM
Eat Pray Love sold 8 million copies and the movie grossed $205 million.
I like this game. Fast Five did 209 million!
June 29th, 2012 at 2:42 PM
A transferred priest.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:42 PM
Beano Cook.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:42 PM
Luo Holtz. Predicts it every fucking season.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:43 PM
Thank you very much, Sean Astin.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:45 PM
Given Notre Dame’s typical strength of schedule, they would likely be in at 11-1 – unless it’s a unique season like 2004 with a few undefeateds and a few more 1-loss teams competing for those four spots.
That said, why the major conferences continue to cater to Notre Dame in all this, I’ll never know. Members of the Big 10, for example, could all agree not to schedule Notre Dame until ND joins the league. That’s what, three games or more a year gone from ND’s schedule? If the Big 12, SEC, and PAC 12 all got on board, ND’s strength of schedule would take a huge hit and then they’d face issues of getting left out at 11-1 when most of that 11 is comprised of Navy, South Florida, BYU, and the like.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:46 PM
Serious question about this. How much is solely due to the fact that it’s on a national network, rather than being ND? Don’t shows that bomb on networks do comparable ratings with mildly successful cable shows?
June 29th, 2012 at 2:46 PM
I’d prefer to believe Ned Beatty comments here (a quick Wiki check says he’s still alive, have no way of confirming this)
June 29th, 2012 at 2:46 PM
And give up an easy win that comes with street cred?
June 29th, 2012 at 2:47 PM
Collusion never goes over well.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:48 PM
I’ll take the under $20 and give you 3 – 1 odds
June 29th, 2012 at 2:48 PM
then they’d face issues of getting left out at 11-1 when most of that 11 is comprised of Navy, South Florida, BYU, and the like.
They still couldn’t go 11-1 against that kind of schedule.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:50 PM
I hope Navy fucks them up first game of the season, triple option pants down WTF game.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:51 PM
Notre Dame sells tickets to non-conference games. directional Louisiana does not. not to mention the game is guaranteed to be on national TV. there is too much for other schools to give up to simply say “we aren’t playing ND.” that is why they carry so much clout, regardless of how good they are.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:51 PM
I meant, if they did go 11-1 against that schedule it would be an issue. Whether they could or not is another argument.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:52 PM
YOU CAN ALL GO TO HELL
June 29th, 2012 at 2:53 PM
Fuck Commerce.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:54 PM
Goddamn it, soused, I just spewed Coke up through my nose at that.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:54 PM
Big 12 video interns are quaking in their shoes at the thought.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:55 PM
I think Notre Dame to the Big XII or the ACC improves them. I don’t know that Notre Dame to the SEC or to the Big Ten would do more for them though.
But this idea that Notre Dame must eventually join a conference is sports radio chatter that gets brought up a few years only to fade when the fact that Notre Dame isn’t interested in splitting their NBC pie becomes relevant. And NBC, who isn’t interested in competing with CBS or ESPN/ABC for the TV rights to major college conferences is happy to just keep pouring money into the Irish’s coffers to get a mediocre but occasionally relevant game every Saturday.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:56 PM
/ John Roberts’d
June 29th, 2012 at 2:58 PM
Everyone knows Louisiana has only one direction, and that is “hellbound.”
June 29th, 2012 at 3:03 PM
I think the non-con schedules of most Division I teams proves this untrue.
June 29th, 2012 at 3:06 PM
Everyone knows Louisiana has only one direction, and that is “hellbound.”
Bobby J driving that bus off the bridge…
June 29th, 2012 at 3:07 PM
maybe for 5-10 schools. maybe. for everyone else, it matters. just look at non-conference attendance for schools that play ND and 2 patsies. you will see a difference.
June 29th, 2012 at 3:10 PM
Fuck Notre Dame.
June 29th, 2012 at 3:16 PM
Just remembered its long weekend (I’m assuming for Americans too?). Fuck yeah!
June 29th, 2012 at 3:19 PM
No, we’re dumb about Independence Day and instead of just observing it on some Monday/Friday around the 4th we get the damn day off…nothing like the Wednesday vacation
June 29th, 2012 at 4:31 PM
ND’schedule for next season: Navy, Purdue, Michigan St, Michigan, Miami, Stanford, BYU, Oklahoma, Pittsburg, Boston Coll., Wake Forest, USC.
I know its always trendy to knock the Irish’s SOS but its hard to look at that slate objectively and have any issue with it. I’d be surprised if there are 10 teams with harder ones when the year is over.