If Not Magic Johnson or Larry Bird, Who Should Have Been On the Original Dream Team?
Clyde Drexler has been in the news this week ahead of the release of Jack McCallum’s book “The Dream Team” about the 1992 Olympic Men’s Basketball Team. Deadspin ran an excerpt two days ago where Drexler said that “[e]veryone kept waiting for Magic to die,” and that if everyone “knew Magic was going to live this long, I would’ve gotten the MVP of that [1992 All-Star] game, and Magic probably wouldn’t have made the Olympic team.”
Drexler came out and strongly denied the quotes about Magic. Jack McCallum wrote about it on his personal blog, defending the quotes (“I did not fabricate quotes.”) He also tried to put it in context, saying that Drexler was one of the biggest defenders of playing with Magic at a time when there was great fear about HIV.
A statement that everyone was waiting on Magic to die, understood in the context of the time, isn’t that outrageous. When that news broke, it was like a funeral. The thought was that the All-Star game and the Barcelona games were his swan song. That stuff may sound outrageous now, but it was not like Drexler was saying something outside the norm.
That said, we can look at Drexler’s view of Magic in the All-Star Game and Olympics and see if it was fair. McCallum references Dominique (Wilkins), Worthy, and Isiah Thomas as people mentioned by Drexler, and said that Drexler thought four players should have been on the team that weren’t.
First, the All-Star Game: Drexler and Magic were the stars of the 1992 All-Star Game when the West won comfortably. Magic scored a game high 25 points. He was 9 for 12 from the field and 3 for 3 from 3-pointers, so it’s not like he was just a ceremonial selection. Clyde could have been the choice, too.
As for the Dream Team, if you saw the documentary on the NBA Network, there was attention early focused on the exclusion of Isiah Thomas. I think it’s fair to ask in retrospect, though, whether Isiah Thomas was even the best, or one of the top four choices for the Dream Team at the time. Clyde Drexler had a legitimate beef in not being included in the original selections. He was a no-brainer choice over Isiah when the final spots were added a year later.
Here are the Dream Teamers, and noted snub Isiah Thomas, ranked by their win shares from 1989-1991 (the team was first announced before the start of the 1991-1992 season)
- Michael Jordan (1st-59.1 Win Shares): 32.1 PPG, 7.0 REB, 6.6 AST, 2.8 STL, 0.8 BLK, 54.8 eFG%
- Magic Johnson (2nd- 48.0 Win Shares): 21.4 PPG, 7.1 REB, 12.3 AST, 1.6 STL, 0.3 BLK, 52.7 eFG%
- Charles Barkley (3rd- 46.8 Win Shares): 26.1 PPG, 11.4 REB, 4.1 AST, 1.7 STL, 0.7 BLK, 59.7 eFG%
- Karl Malone (4th- 46.6 Win Shares): 29.7 PPG, 11.2 REB, 2.9 AST, 1.5 STL, 0.8 BLK, 53.9 eFG%
- John Stockton (5th- 44.1 Win Shares): 17.2 PPG, 2.9 REB, 14.1 AST, 2.9 STL, 0.2 BLK, 54.1 eFG%
- Clyde Drexler (6th- 36.6 Win Shares): 24.0 PPG, 7.2 REB, 5.9 AST, 2.2 STL, 0.7 BLK, 50.4 eFG%
- Patrick Ewing (8th- 36.4 Win Shares): 26.0 PPG, 10.4 REB, 2.5 AST, 1.1 STL, 3.6 BLK, 54.2 eFG%
- Chris Mullin (10th- 33.0 Win Shares): 25.8 PPG, 5.7 REB, 4.4 AST, 2.0 STL, 0.6BLK, 54.3 eFG%
- David Robinson (13th- 32.1 Win Shares): 25.0 PPG, 12.5 REB, 2.3 AST, 1.6 STL, 3.9 BLK, 54.2 eFG%
- Scottie Pippen (40th- 20.9 Win Shares): 16.7 PPG, 6.7 REB, 5.1 AST, 2.3 STL, 1.1BLK, 50.4 eFG%
- Isiah Thomas (60th- 17.1 Win Shares): 17.8 PPG, 3.5 REB, 9.0 AST, 1.7 STL, 0.2 BLK, 46.2 eFG%
- Larry Bird (64th- 16.6 Win Shares): 22.0 PPG, 8.9 REB, 7.2 AST, 1.6 STL, 0.9 BLK, 49.3 eFG%
So yes, Magic then retired unexpectedly, only to come back for the All-Star Game and the Olympics. He was still at the top of the league when he did so, and based on his performance in the All-Star Game, if he wanted to play in a shorter tournament, his inclusion seemed entirely appropriate. Everyone but Scottie Pippen and Larry Bird was in the top fifteen in win shares for the previous three seasons before the first announcement was made. Scottie Pippen was a young player and made the leap during the 1991 season, so his ranking here doesn’t reflect how he was viewed. By the next season, his inclusion seemed a no-brainer as he averaged over 21 points and over 7 rebounds and assists a game as the Bulls won another title. Larry Bird was struggling with injuries, and he’s the only one to rank behind Isiah in win shares. On a per game basis, though, he was way ahead, as he played in 68 fewer games than Thomas. Larry was the Legend and if he could play in a shortened tournament, you didn’t leave off one of the two best players of the previous decade.
The uproar about Thomas being snubbed ignores one thing. He doesn’t compare to the other Dream Teamers. By 1991, he was no longer the “winner” as the Bulls had dethroned the Pistons, and his numbers were in decline. On his own team, Bill Laimbeer, Dennis Rodman, and Joe Dumars rated higher. Even with a winner’s bump, Isiah no longer looked like a slam dunk choice by the 1991-1992 season. You can say something like win shares, which measures volume and efficiency, is underrating Thomas. It did a pretty good job at identifying the rest of the great players in the NBA, though.
The next year, Thomas was 59th in win shares, again shot a lower percentage, and again the Pistons were further removed from the titles. Compared to eventual choice Clyde Drexler, it seemed like a no-brainer–feud with Jordan or not–where the selection should go.
Honestly, I’m not sure why Isiah Thomas would have been the choice over any of the (non-collegian) Dream Teamers, and he probably was getting the benefit of the doubt to be considered ahead of several other American-born players. Who could have gone instead? At point guard, Kevin Johnson and Terry Porter were both more productive than Isiah Thomas in the years leading into the Dream Team. Reggie Miller was coming into his own in a Hall of Fame career, having his 3rd straight 20+ point season while shooting a high percentage. Dominique Wilkins missed half the season in 1992, but was still among the game’s top 15 or 20 players when he played. Any of them, it seems, would have been a much better choice.
By hook or by crook or by Michael Jordan’s command, they got it right, though. Well, except for Christian Laettner over Shaquille O’Neal, but that’s a whole other story.
[photo via US Presswire]

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June 28th, 2012 at 3:16 PM
Mark muthafuckin Price.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:18 PM
Paul Mokeski
/Hernia’d
June 28th, 2012 at 3:23 PM
I cried that night. I was 11. And not even a huge NBA fan. Back then HIV was a death sentence. Not enough is made of the fact that 21 years later the dude is STILL ALIVE. Not only that, he’s put on about 60 lbs.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
“[e]veryone kept hoping for Magic to die,”
- Producers of The Magic Hour
June 28th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Olajuwon
June 28th, 2012 at 3:25 PM
Eat it, Malone.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:27 PM
I don’t think Hakeem was a US citizen at the time
June 28th, 2012 at 3:28 PM
Was Olajuwon not a citizen yet, and thats why he wasnt selected? Or was it that 90-92 was the nadir of his career?
June 28th, 2012 at 3:28 PM
“I don’t think Hakeem was a US citizen at the time
Fucking illegals.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:29 PM
Frankly, at the time, Laettner was a better player. He pwn’d Shaq both times they met in college, something that happened to the Big Ass-istotle every time he went up against a player he couldn’t simply bulldoze with his bulk.
/ Yes, I said pwn’d
June 28th, 2012 at 3:31 PM
Olajuwon did miss significant time in both ’91 and ’92. And he did make the “leap” the years following that.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:32 PM
Olajuwon wasn’t a citizen until 1993.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:33 PM
Dominique gets snubbed from everything.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Not saying it was the right call and it looks ridiculous in retrospect, but a) Laettner was the more well-known player, b) His game lent itself more to Int’l play, c) The token college guy was only getting garbage time minutes so it’s not like it mattered. Does anyone remember Okafor on the ’04 team?
June 28th, 2012 at 3:37 PM
This is the equivalent of the, “I can use the n-word because I have black friends”, right?
June 28th, 2012 at 3:38 PM
As does Chris Mullen.
WHAT ABOUT PATRICK CHEWING
June 28th, 2012 at 3:40 PM
Frank Brickowski was putting up 17-8 per 36 minutes in ’91…regrettable omission by the Committee
June 28th, 2012 at 3:42 PM
People don’t give the 04 team enough credit for sucking. That was a nightmare of a team.
/ LeBronze’d
June 28th, 2012 at 3:43 PM
I dont know if i’d go that far. Those Duke teams were loaded, Shaq had no help his last 2 years at LSU. But it’s worth noting that Laettner swept the Naismith/Wooden awards that year. He was a great college player.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:44 PM
Felt bad for Iverson, looked like he was the only one who gave a shit
June 28th, 2012 at 3:44 PM
Just remembered the 04 team had both Allen Iverson and Marbury…with Iverson the leading scorer despite shooting 37% while Tim motherfuckin Duncan was on the team.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
Rodman made it up to him.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
no one ever said playing in Jack Sikma’s shadow was easy.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
The LeBronze nickname was funny, but LeBron was 19 and nowhere near one of the best players in the league then. Funny how Teflon Tim Duncan, who was actually in his prime and probably the best player in the world at the time, got none of the heat for that debacle. I guess that’s the bright side to being an invisible superstar.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:48 PM
I only watched a couple of games from that Olympics to be honest, so I don’t remember much.
The NBA product from 2004-2007 was garbage. I mean, the 2004 team had Okafor and Richard Jefferson on it. It took off in 07 with the Celtics regrouping, Lebron’s improvements, and the Lakers being relevant again.
/ sorry, Spurs/Pistons fans
June 28th, 2012 at 3:49 PM
Cedric Ceballos
June 28th, 2012 at 3:49 PM
Iverson got the worst of it, that Olympic mess stuck to him and his legacy. He played his ass off but he couldnt have been a worse fit for international ball.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:50 PM
Why didn’t McGrady, Kidd, and Carter stay with the team? I remember them competing in 2003 for the tuneup games.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:51 PM
Are we just naming random players now?
Lawrence Funderburke
June 28th, 2012 at 3:52 PM
Vitaly Potapenko.
/ NBA Live 99′d
June 28th, 2012 at 3:54 PM
Obvious choice to not make the team:
Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf
June 28th, 2012 at 3:57 PM
A few reasons, a) the novelty had worn off and many of these guys already won gold in 2000 (Garnett, Kidd, Carter, Allen). Two, this was the first Summer Olympics post 9/11 and there was a bit of panic about possible attacks. D. USA basketball was a clusterfook at the time and nobody wanted to be a part of the embarrassment.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:59 PM
I refuse to stand for your damn anthem, America!
/ Prefer to remember him as Chris Jackson
// Also prefer to remember Albert Belle as Joey Belle
June 28th, 2012 at 3:59 PM
There was sentiment to have Isaiah on the 1992 team because he missed the 1980 games due to the boycott.
June 28th, 2012 at 4:01 PM
It still amazes me that Pete Maravich did not make the cut for the ’68 Olympic team.
June 28th, 2012 at 4:03 PM
That 2000 team was pretty awesome until it faced Lithuania.
June 28th, 2012 at 4:06 PM
I also remember some thought given to having the Pistons represent the USA instead of an All-Star Team, around the time they named Daly the coach…before the Bulls supplanted them in ’91. Turns out none of them made the team. This was back when pretty much every team was made up of US born players.
June 28th, 2012 at 4:11 PM
I really only come to this site for the penury, where might I find some of that?
June 28th, 2012 at 4:16 PM
/ coop’d?
June 28th, 2012 at 4:19 PM
Dominique gets snubbed from everything.
And he should. One of the most overrated players of all time. Chucker extraordinaire.
I’d love to know his shooting percentage if you took away the dunks. In international ball, he would’ve been snapped in half.
June 28th, 2012 at 4:22 PM
I too would guess that when you factor out the most effecient form of scoring that the success rate would drop
June 28th, 2012 at 4:23 PM
I too would guess that when you factor out the most effecient form of scoring that the success rate would drop
Thanks, Gump.
June 28th, 2012 at 4:24 PM
Guess Zeke lighting up Drexler in the finals in 91 wasn’t good enough
June 28th, 2012 at 4:28 PM
Those are crazy numbers.
June 28th, 2012 at 4:29 PM
….and then I saw Jordan’s.
June 28th, 2012 at 4:53 PM
Anyone read Whitlock’s article? Says Mullin and Stockton were tokens, really ripped Mullin in particular, said Isiah was 4th best player of his time.
June 28th, 2012 at 6:52 PM
I enjoyed Zeke lighting up Stockton after he missed out on the team. Then the next game, Malone threw a dirty elbow to get back at Isiah for being a better player.
June 30th, 2012 at 9:21 AM
Tim Duncan sleptwalk through the entire fucking games. Marbury had one good game, Larry Brown did what he does and checked out early once he saw things weren’t going to go well. Iverson was the only stand up guy for that squad on and off the court. When the U.S lost any chance to play for Gold, he was the one who rallied the troops to fight just as hard for the bronze. Plus he’s the one who kept talking to Bron, Wade, and Melo and LB buried them deep on the bench.
June 30th, 2012 at 9:22 AM
when LB buried them on the bench