The End of Ichiro in Seattle?
Ichiro turns 39 this October. His 10-year streak of 200-hit seasons ended last year, and this year, his on-base percentage has dipped to a career-low (.290), as has his batting average (.265). At 30-40, the Mariners are languishing (again) in the AL West cellar, en route to their third straight year finishing under .500. They’ll miss the postseason for the 11th straight season.
Naturally, Steve Kelley of the Seattle Times is asking what everyone in the Northwest is whispering: What to do with declining Ichiro?
Ichiro should be easy to trade, but he isn’t. There are no secrets about him. Scouts know he’s not a team guy. Scouts know he doesn’t look at enough pitches during an at-bat. They know he is most concerned with volume.
These are probably the last months Seattle will get to watch Ichiro. There is no way he should be re-signed. He’s not one of the wily veterans every rebuilding team needs in the lineup.
It’s moments like these that we must remind ourselves: Sports are a business. It must have been torturous for Bulls fans to see Jordan in a Wizards uniform. I’m glad I never saw Magic wear anything besides the purple and gold. We’ll never see Jeter in anything other than pinstripes. Even though Ichiro has veto power on trades, would he leave a sunken ship for a shot at the postseason? How might he look running around the Atlanta outfield? Pinch hitting in a big spot for the Giants? Probably awkward. [Seattle Times]

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June 20th, 2012 at 3:39 PM
Still haven’t gotten that editor, eh?
June 20th, 2012 at 3:40 PM
Those who grew up in places with teams, how much of this is true? I never had a hometown team/players so while I remember guys with a certain team, this never feels awkward.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:42 PM
He just forgot to add /pours one out for Benji
June 20th, 2012 at 3:43 PM
Ichiro should be easy to trade, but he isn’t. There are no secrets about him. Scouts know he’s not a team guy. Scouts know he doesn’t look at enough pitches during an at-bat. They know he is most concerned with volume.
Those would seem to be reasons why it wouldn’t be easy to trade him.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:44 PM
Michael Bourn is working out just fine in center and as a leadoff hitter plus Ichiro isn’t pinch hitting. The Rays could probably use a leadoff hitter like Ichiro because Desmond Jennings isn’t the prototypical leadoff guy. They even had Carlos Pena in that slot at times.
This is the first I’ve heard of Ichiro not being a team guy. I don’t read about the Mariners much though. If they’re trading anyone, it’s Jason Vargas because pitching is more in demand and he’d bring in a decent haul at age 29.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:44 PM
Magic refused to wear the AIDS ribbon.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
ichiro doesn’t fit anywhere else. the pnw was perfect for the first japanese star. he’s an HOFer easily right?
June 20th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
Those who grew up in places with teams, how much of this is true?
Not unless you are 8 years old.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
You know, I cared about this when I was a kid. I was upset when the Sox let Clemens go, same with Boggs. These days though, now that I don’t have favorite players, I just want my teams to win. If a long tenured player isn’t playing well, just let them go.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
ichiro is probably my favorite player of the past 10 years, sucks that he is about done. first i have heard of him being a crap teammate, though.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:47 PM
has anyone seen a clip of ichiro’s famous pre-all star game speech? im dying to see.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:47 PM
first i have heard of him being a crap teammate, though.
someone shared funny commercials he’s been in, tho that’s off-topic
June 20th, 2012 at 3:48 PM
This is the first I’ve heard of Ichiro not being a team guy.
I’ve heard both. Some media members just put out shit if someone is rude one day.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:49 PM
Indeed.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:49 PM
Baseball question.
What the hell has happened to Brian McCann?
June 20th, 2012 at 3:49 PM
First? Excuse me?
June 20th, 2012 at 3:50 PM
here’s a funny ichiro spot
June 20th, 2012 at 3:51 PM
Power numbers are still reasonably good but his contact rate is way down. Can’t hit a breaking ball for some reason this year.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:51 PM
You know, I cared about this when I was a kid. I was upset when the Sox let Clemens go, same with Boggs. These days though, now that I don’t have favorite players, I just want my teams to win. If a long tenured player isn’t playing well, just let them go.
Kinda going that way with Youk. Still love Pedroia though.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:52 PM
and another
juuuuunior!!
June 20th, 2012 at 3:52 PM
Not in the budget.
On an unrelated note, TBL just came back from another vacation at an exotic location.
/yes, I realize that the site is corporate owned
//doesn’t mean I can’t take unsubstantiated shots
June 20th, 2012 at 3:53 PM
This mattered to me when I was 8. Now the only way I would care is if Jeter or Mariano went to another team, and that’s because they’ve been with the Yankees since I was 8.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:53 PM
ok ballz who did i forget, jerry rice?
/get it, rice?
June 20th, 2012 at 3:53 PM
/giggle
June 20th, 2012 at 3:54 PM
I haven’t seen a clip, but it’s referenced every year around the break. Although, he may not make it given his numbers, which would be a shame.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:55 PM
I thought he refused to learn English
June 20th, 2012 at 3:56 PM
Although, he may not make it given his numbers, which would be a shame.
no it would be the opposite of a shame, whatever that is
too many guys get in because of career not first half
/bc of you people voting
June 20th, 2012 at 3:56 PM
Only other person he can say would be Nomo, right? Seems like a silly thing to be defensive about though.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:56 PM
I thought he refused to learn English
nobody clicks the ichiro commercials i share
June 20th, 2012 at 3:57 PM
I thought he refused to learn English
Heard he’s fluent, even with colloquialisms.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:58 PM
Nomo
hideous no more?
not as big a star as ichiro, nor a HOFer
June 20th, 2012 at 3:58 PM
Hideo Nomo. Led the league in strikeouts, All Star Game starter and Rookie of the Year. Not as great as Ichiro, but he was still a star.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:58 PM
Only becomes awkward if said player goes and plays for your most detested rival. And then awkward doesn’t even scratch the surface of describing your feelings.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:58 PM
i thought ho chi minh was the first great japanese baseball player.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:59 PM
Either you misunderstand what I was trying to say, or I said it wrong.
It would be a shame in the sense that someone so consistent is dropping off, and that his streaks are ending. Heroes turning mortal, and all that.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:59 PM
What the hell has happened to Brian McCann?
Power numbers are still reasonably good but his contact rate is way down. Can’t hit a breaking ball for some reason this year.
You think that’s bad…. soon, pitchers will realize that Uggla is more picky than last year, so they’ll quit throwing so much out of the strike zone. I guarantee he strikes out on a 1.5 times per game rate in the second half.
This season isn’t over, but the Braves have lots of issues to deal with.
June 20th, 2012 at 3:59 PM
Only becomes awkward if said player goes and plays for your most detested rival. And then awkward doesn’t even scratch the surface of describing your feelings.
we’re here for you badge, let it out
June 20th, 2012 at 3:59 PM
What the hell? Who is going to trade for a lead-off hitter OBP-ing under .300? Also, the M’s would have to pay for a solid chunk of his contract in any deal.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:00 PM
i never miss the opportunity to tell this joke
what chinese for 69?
two can chew!
/very much near the topic
June 20th, 2012 at 4:01 PM
And fuck this completely. No way, José.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:01 PM
i thought ho chi minh was the first great japanese baseball player.
Chinese man. Chiiiiineeeeese.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:01 PM
Heroes turning mortal, and all that.
ok costas
June 20th, 2012 at 4:02 PM
i thank gambling for keepin gme into baseball this year
peralta facing a suspension….for his hat-tip?
June 20th, 2012 at 4:02 PM
How might he look running around the Atlanta outfield?
And fuck this completely. No way, José.
Agree. And even with Bourn likely gone next year.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:03 PM
I’d rather a guy get in because of his career than a potentially flukey first half.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:04 PM
What the hell was Mike Gillis thinking giving the Master of Panic a contract extension after successive postseason failure of epic proportions?
No one is whispering that.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:06 PM
Yeah, his pre-game All-Star speech is supposed to be a reason to make the team in and of itself. I would love to hear what he actually says.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:08 PM
OK fine. They’re shouting it while lighting shit on fire and spraypainting dicks on Milan Lucic’s church.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:08 PM
I’d rather a guy get in because of his career than a potentially flukey first half.
then no need for voting
June 20th, 2012 at 4:08 PM
The only thing worse than arguing over who should be in the HOF is arguing over who should be in the ASG.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:08 PM
They’re shouting it while lighting shit on fire and spraypainting dicks on Milan Lucic’s church.
sentence of the day, if not image
June 20th, 2012 at 4:11 PM
The only thing worse than arguing over who should be in the HOF is arguing over who should be in the ASG.
who’s arguing that?
June 20th, 2012 at 4:12 PM
If it’s based on my opinion, then of course there would be no need for voting. I like the fan vote, though.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:14 PM
We all were the other day vez. I now know more about Jack Morris and his complete above-averageness than I ever thought possible.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:15 PM
It must have been torturous for Bulls fans to see Jordan in a Wizards uniform
no, he was done then.
More humorous then torturous
June 20th, 2012 at 4:16 PM
I like the fan vote, though.
i don’t and it has nothing to do with fun…multiple voting to get the hometown guy in, know-nothings (not that i know a lot) deciding starters. let the players and coaches and managers and gms choose (anonymously), and stop contract clauses for asg participation
June 20th, 2012 at 4:17 PM
Yeah, his pre-game All-Star speech is supposed to be a reason to make the team in and of itself. I would love to hear what he actually says.
His grasp and use of English profanity is very good from the stories told.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:18 PM
We all were the other day vez. I now know more about Jack Morris and his complete above-averageness than I ever thought possible
oh yeah i remember. i said if morris had to be in because he led the 80s in wins then grace should be in because he led the 90s in hits.
i thought you meant within this post. well, ichiro is HOF, yes?
June 20th, 2012 at 4:22 PM
I say yes.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:24 PM
being the record holder for most consecutive 200-hit seasons has to be worth something. maybe the asian comittee will get him in
June 20th, 2012 at 4:26 PM
it was worth a bloated contract, if that counts.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:29 PM
it was worth a bloated contract, if that counts.
performance plus being a beacon of hope for millions of transplanted asians = justified bloat
June 20th, 2012 at 4:32 PM
Ichiro is a slam dunk HoFer for me.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:33 PM
Absolutely.
/team Jack Morris is not a HoFer
June 20th, 2012 at 4:53 PM
Ichiro=HOF
June 20th, 2012 at 4:58 PM
Steve Kelley is a well known moron.
June 20th, 2012 at 4:58 PM
fuck this asshole. hope he ends up in a DisAstros jersey and rots for a few years.
June 20th, 2012 at 5:08 PM
had a grandpa at guadalcanal, jhs?
June 20th, 2012 at 5:30 PM
Oh he speaks English all right.
/Watch it. You won’t be sorry.
June 20th, 2012 at 6:14 PM
It must have been torturous for Bulls fans to see Jordan in a Wizards uniform
it ruined those 6 titles, no doubt.
/looks at Lebron preparing to win first in MIA…..