Kevin Durant vs. LeBron James: Who Do You Got For the Next Five Years?
The NBA Finals begins tonight, featuring teams led by two of the best players in the game. We’ve got the all-around dominance of LeBron James, in his prime at age 27, to go against the young superstar Kevin Durant, always a great shooter and emerging as one of the league’s best at age 23.
So, who would you take for the next five years to build your team around? Many people might confuse team and individual here — Durant has younger star teammates in Russell Westbrook, James Harden and Serge Ibaka, and so Oklahoma City would appear to be better off, though impending free agency moves could change that.
But if you could start a team (or rebuild, say, the Denver Nuggets) with the 27-year old James or the 23-year old Durant, and the goal was to compete for the next five years with the greatest chance of winning multiple titles, who do you want?
There’s probably not a bad answer here. I would opt for James, because while he may have peaked over the last two years, his remaining best is probably still going to be at or near the top of the league for a few more years. Many of the players similar to James were still good through their early 30′s, even if the overall numbers dipped ever slightly. He can also guard four positions and will likely defend Durant more than the opposite in this series.
Durant, though, should close what remaining gap there is over that stretch. Some believe that he already has. You can’t just project Durant to keep climbing, but it is more likely than not that his greatest season is still to come some time in the next five years.
I tried to look back for other potential pairings where a 27-year old star player was slightly better in win shares over a 23-year old prodigy. There are not very many cases that are close. I had to expand it to players within a year of each other at those ages to just get to seven. Here are other “in his prime star” vs. “great young star” scenarios at the guard/forward positions where the 27-year old had win shares greater than 13.0, and had between 1.5 and 4.0 more win shares than a 23-year old. (LeBron’s win shares, pro-rated to a 82-game season, was 2.8 higher than Durant, and both were top three in the league).
I list the 27-year old first in each case. In parentheses, I list the next five years win shares for each.
- 2006 Kobe Bryant vs. 2005 Gilbert Arenas. (Kobe = 59.2, Arenas= 27.0)
- 2006 Shawn Marion vs. 2005 Dwyane Wade. (Marion = 35.2, Wade= 54.2)
- 2004 Kevin Garnett vs. 2003 Tracy McGrady. (Garnett = 61.7, McGrady= 38.9)
- 1990 John Stockton vs. 1990 Kevin Johnson. (Stockton = 65.1, KJ= 41.5)
- 1987 Magic Johnson vs. 1987 Charles Barkley. (Magic = 58.9, Sir Charles= 75.8)
- 1984 Adrian Dantley vs. 1983 Magic Johnson. (Dantley = 47.9, Magic= 61.8)
- 1984 Larry Bird vs. 1985 Terry Cummings. (Bird = 62.2, Cummings= 37.8)
The breakdown was four in favor of the 27-year old stars, three in favor of the 23-year old stars. Hardly anything decisive. Arenas was the only one in the group to have fewer than 35.0 WS over the next five years. It should be fun to see how this one shakes out over the next five years, and tonight’s Game One may just be a preview of battles to come.
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June 12th, 2012 at 2:55 PM
But if you could start a team (or rebuild, say, the Denver Nuggets) with the 27-year old James or the 23-year old Durant, and the goal was to compete for the next five years with the greatest chance of winning multiple titles, who do you want?
D Ho D Ho D Ho
great post Mr Lisk, enjoy your NBA posts……but wake me up when Durant learns how to play defense….Bron Bron all day er’day
June 12th, 2012 at 2:55 PM
Russell Westbrook.
June 12th, 2012 at 2:56 PM
Derek Fisher.
June 12th, 2012 at 2:56 PM
lebron by a whisker.
June 12th, 2012 at 2:56 PM
Honestly there’s no wrong answer here. Either one of them can be the cornerstone of a title-contender. It’s all about the team you put around them. Who is easier to complement?
June 12th, 2012 at 2:57 PM
Derrick Rose.
June 12th, 2012 at 2:57 PM
doo doo jump.
June 12th, 2012 at 2:57 PM
you’re right there is no loser here. But, the Thunder are locking up their core pieces (I think they can get a deal done with Harden over the summer) so right now it would have to be Durant. if they win a championship with out their core even in their prime yet, i can’t wait to see that team by the time they’re all in their prime between 26-28.
June 12th, 2012 at 3:00 PM
durant is easier to compliment, but lebron probably compliments his teammates better thanks to his passing the amount of court he covers defensively.
June 12th, 2012 at 3:00 PM
DeMarcus Cousins is the answer, right?
June 12th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
Meyers Leonard.
June 12th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
lebron makes his supporting cast better, but he has no supporting cast.
June 12th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
Derek Fisher.
Eric Snow
June 12th, 2012 at 3:02 PM
I think that’s why you build around Durant. But, I’m probably taking the question asked out of context.
/doesn’t give a shit
//farts
June 12th, 2012 at 3:04 PM
but wake me up when Durant learns how to play defense
How often does Brooks put Durant on Lebron in the finals?
June 12th, 2012 at 3:04 PM
Kobe
June 12th, 2012 at 3:05 PM
I think that’s why you build around Durant. But, I’m probably taking the question asked out of context.
/doesn’t give a shit
//farts
that was a jab at the people who say he makes his teammates better when he wins, but then turn around and say he has no support when he loses.
/doesnt really give a shit, either
//sharts
June 12th, 2012 at 3:06 PM
How often does Brooks put Durant on Lebron in the finals?
I can see Durant guarding Battier and Ibaka on Bron Bron
June 12th, 2012 at 3:07 PM
Jeremy Linsanity.
/jerking knee’d
June 12th, 2012 at 3:09 PM
Frank Brickowski
June 12th, 2012 at 3:10 PM
I can see Durant guarding Battier and Ibaka on Bron Bron
I think Ibaka would get in some serious foul trouble if that happens, I think a rotation between him, durant and harden working the best.
June 12th, 2012 at 3:10 PM
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*The Bug
June 12th, 2012 at 3:10 PM
Close enough
June 12th, 2012 at 3:11 PM
@td_kc32 good point, plus you have to question Ibaka’s perimeter defense
June 12th, 2012 at 3:11 PM
Charlie V
June 12th, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Thabo?
June 12th, 2012 at 3:14 PM
Juwan Howard.
In all seriousness though, I think you take Lebron for his versatility. I get that you have to score to win, but I think Durant is too one dimensional (he just scores) at this point.
June 12th, 2012 at 3:15 PM
tim duncan, no doubt
June 12th, 2012 at 3:16 PM
Thabo?
True.. He’ll see a lot of Wade too.
June 12th, 2012 at 3:19 PM
(he just scores)
/Buddy Ryan’d
June 12th, 2012 at 3:20 PM
yea thabo will be on Star Jones ex mostly
June 12th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
I don’t know enough about NBA win shares. Do they factor in defense at all? And if so, how?
June 12th, 2012 at 3:28 PM
I don’t know enough about NBA win shares. Do they factor in defense at all? And if so, how?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/ws.html
June 12th, 2012 at 3:33 PM
I’ve got an awful feeling that LeBron and Miami are just going to run train on OKC in this Finals.
June 12th, 2012 at 3:33 PM
Thanks. I’ve been meaning to read Dean Oliver forever. And still haven’t.
June 12th, 2012 at 3:34 PM
someone talk SC off the ledge….anthony rizzo hurt in a AAA game!
June 12th, 2012 at 3:35 PM
going plus 145 on heat for the series. okc tonight m5…still thinking about the o/u 196
June 12th, 2012 at 3:40 PM
The homeless dude that got his face eaten by the other dude is apparently a big Heat fan. I’m nominating it as the feel good story of the finals.
June 12th, 2012 at 3:42 PM
The homeless dude that got his face eaten by the other dude is apparently a big Heat fan. I’m nominating it as the feel good story of the finals
The Miami Eat
June 12th, 2012 at 3:42 PM
shut it down, the internet is closed
June 12th, 2012 at 3:44 PM
I like this.
June 12th, 2012 at 3:47 PM
kaiser wilhelm, did you et my supergrass album recommendation in the roundup?
June 12th, 2012 at 3:48 PM
Seconded.
June 12th, 2012 at 3:52 PM
Man, this post got none of the passion of that Russia-Poland soccer post.
I guess hoops don’t agry up the blood the way futbol do.
June 12th, 2012 at 3:54 PM
Also, real jouggs > Erin Andrews fake juggs
June 12th, 2012 at 3:56 PM
jouggs = juggs + joules
June 12th, 2012 at 3:57 PM
i did, listening to it now, actually.
pretty good. I can dig it.
June 12th, 2012 at 4:11 PM
Mike Bibby, hands down
June 12th, 2012 at 4:37 PM
Love how that completely asinine comment by TBL still riles other peoples feathers too.
June 12th, 2012 at 4:44 PM
Would Harden’s beard interfere with a willing face-eater’s digestive tract? Would the beard cause fur balls? Would it add hair to the head of said face-eater?
/concerned for Lebron
//who will eat regardless
June 12th, 2012 at 5:46 PM
Durant, because he doesn’t get purple lips in big spots like LeBron and A-Rod.
June 12th, 2012 at 9:26 PM
Give me LeBron. He may be a choker in the Finals, but dude is a freak of nature…