Roundup: Miley Cyrus is Engaged, Nobody is Watching the Stanley Cup & it is Hammer the Miami Heat Day
Malin Ackerman … Miley Cyrus, 19, is engaged … woman gets herpes from date, sues, wins $900k … “woman uses nail polish remover to set husband on fire” … kindly go read this Princeton commencement speech by Michael Lewis (or watch the video below) … Scott Walker, winner in Wisconsin! … warning: Sad story … “man’s death during threesome nets his family $3M in trial” … Jonah Lehrer is leaving Wired for the New Yorker … daughter of Bruce Willis arrested for giving a cop a fake ID after having an open beer in Times Square … school denies student diploma because of excessive cheering for him during graduation … “Human hand and foot delivered to Vancouver schools” … why was this college student in Georgia building bombs? …
Urban Meyer suspends two Ohio State leaders indefinitely after police caught them urinating outside of a restaurant. [Toledo Blade]
Here’s a very good obit of the Times Picayune. [LSU Reveille]
Get ready for a day of hammering the Heat on the internet. It’ll be non-stop, I’m sure. [Sun-Sentinel]
I’m a KG hater, but he was phenomenal in Game 5. Seems like he has more left in the tank than we all thought. [Herald]
Eric Crawford blogs about leaving the Courier-Journal for a TV station. [Eric Crawford Sports]
Ratings for the Stanley Cup have been poor. [NYT]
Bill Self’s son, Tyler, is going to walk onto the Kansas basketball team. [KU Sports]
Can I interest you in a story about Manny Pacquiao’s dog? [WSJ]
Andy Pettitte shut down the Rays, Yankees pull within 1/2 game of first place in the AL East. [NYDN]
A week after getting dismissed from the Oklahoma St. Cowboys football team, runnin back Herschel Sims is busted for forgery. [Tulsa World]
Golden State Warriors fans – what do you think about taking Kentucky’s Terrence Jones 7th? [Mercury News]
Miss Pennsylvania thinks that the Miss USA pageant is rigged, so she’s giving up her crown. [Delco Times]
You might laugh. [via Dan]
An acoustic version of Call Me Maybe? Why not.
Michael Lewis is a bright individual.
Funny video about how we store people in our phones. [via Hot Clicks]
- Juwan Howard Hanging Out on the Beach With MSG Network’s Jill Martin While the Heat Enjoy Another Vacation
- First-Place Rangers Look Like They Made the Right Call to Pass on Josh Hamilton
- ESPN Layoffs: Mostly in Tech and Sales Departments, More to Come in June? [UPDATE]
- The Oakland Athletics Will Host “Zubazpalooza” in August
- The 2016 Super Bowl Has Been Awarded to the Bay Area, at the New Levi’s Stadium [UPDATE: Houston Will Host in 2017]
- faulkner22 on ESPN Layoffs: Mostly in Tech and Sales Departments, More to Come in June? [UPDATE]
- A.P. on Juwan Howard Hanging Out on the Beach With MSG Network's Jill Martin While the Heat Enjoy Another Vacation
- kazzythekid on Juwan Howard Hanging Out on the Beach With MSG Network's Jill Martin While the Heat Enjoy Another Vacation
- Tim Ryan on Juwan Howard Hanging Out on the Beach With MSG Network's Jill Martin While the Heat Enjoy Another Vacation
- Cats (formerly Patrick Patterson) on The NBA Draft Lottery: Winner Gets Nerlens Noel? Or Ben McLemore?
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June 6th, 2012 at 8:35 AM
Indeed
June 6th, 2012 at 8:38 AM
WTF … who cares that much about graduation? The school is apparently requiring 20 hours of community service for him to get his diploma …
June 6th, 2012 at 8:39 AM
Also, Ernie Johnson comments (!?) on the Shamburgler’s BBoB-inspired TNT studio post…
June 6th, 2012 at 8:42 AM
Scott Walker, winner in Wisconsin! … warning: Sad story
Indeed
I see what you did there.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:44 AM
Recall Walker!
June 6th, 2012 at 8:44 AM
The comments on that article…wow.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:44 AM
How about Bryce with his 1st walk-off hit?
June 6th, 2012 at 8:44 AM
big fan of Malin Ackerman
she’s great in Children’s Hospital
June 6th, 2012 at 8:45 AM
the opening line on the over/under is 6 months. I’m going with the upset and taking the over, I think it lasts at least 8. months that is.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:46 AM
those administrators are a fuckload of dicks
June 6th, 2012 at 8:47 AM
I’ll take the under, this will be like a Britney Spears length engagement. I’ll give it 2 months.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:47 AM
so is today the day the Sandusky Love Letters are aired out? I can’t wait to see if something can replace Rhythmic Slapping as the fantasy team name du jour.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:47 AM
I hate OSU and even I think this is way overboard. Make them run a little after practice and get over it. Free cars are a-ok, but don’t you dare pee in the dark outside.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:47 AM
big fan of Malin Ackerman
Thought she was horribly miscast in Watchmen, but she is funny and hot, so she’s got that going for her.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:48 AM
How long is that in units of Kardashian-Humphries?
June 6th, 2012 at 8:48 AM
No, just finishing out the jury selection. The “good stuff” won’t start until next week.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:48 AM
Okay, who’s gonna be the first to pick that girl apart, which will lead her to eventual eating disorder & poor self-esteem????
June 6th, 2012 at 8:48 AM
Liam Helmsworth… can get it.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:49 AM
that was east to relate to.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:49 AM
Miley Cyrus, 19, is engaged
the opening line on the over/under is 6 months. I’m going with the upset and taking the over, I think it lasts at least 8. months that is.
Don’t be so sure on something like that this. My friend is STILL married and we all thought he’d be divorced in 2 years or less. Now, factor in the fact that she’s a celeb but isn’t necessarily a fame whore like Kimmy K and I could see this thing going closer to a year before it falls apart.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:50 AM
Billy Ray is a terrible father
June 6th, 2012 at 8:51 AM
I had never even heard of or seen this woman before. I’m glad Google introduced me to her
June 6th, 2012 at 8:51 AM
Liam Helmsworth… can get it.
I think there’s a seen in Avengers where you can see the coke still on his nose. Like Neil Young in the Last Waltz.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:52 AM
Liam Helmsworth… can get it.
My wife thinks he looks weird, especially after she’s seen his older brother shirtless in Thor. Might as well ask this of the female pop: did any of you come out of Avengers ranting about the “man candy”?
June 6th, 2012 at 8:52 AM
never change Wisconsin.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:53 AM
Didnt see Avengers, but Hunger Games, oh mama.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:54 AM
Hilarity ensues
June 6th, 2012 at 8:54 AM
considering how KG went beast mode on Lebron in the 2nd quarter it will be well deserved if the “better” team loses to a lesser team.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:56 AM
that scout willis is not very easy on the eyes.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:56 AM
Wait, that’s not THor? There are 2 of them? I am getting out of the loop with the young’ens
/watched a 1941 movie last night.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:56 AM
How many more grueling days/weeks/months must America endure this????
June 6th, 2012 at 8:59 AM
Please. No more of this song. I beg you.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:00 AM
Didn’t see it yet either, however Chris Evans, Downey Jr. and Helmsworth=yum!
June 6th, 2012 at 9:00 AM
I store people by their first and last name. I’m also apparently a boring SOB.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:00 AM
Democratic and Republican lawmakers together to meet over brats, burgers and beer
/never change Wisconsin.
Hipster Democrats drink PBR while those stuffed-shirt GOP’ers class it up with Blatz. Independents drink Schaeffers, Milwaukees’s Best and Schlitz.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:02 AM
I used to be in charge of graduations, and I understand why the administration was upset – they’ve probably gotten a billion phone calls from people complaining they couldn’t hear the other names. But why put yourself in a position you absolutely can’t win, and why try to punish the kid for something he had no control over? An absolute lack of judgment and common sense.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:02 AM
/shudders uncontrollably
June 6th, 2012 at 9:04 AM
They’re probably drinking free Miller since they passed legislation making it harder for microbreweries in the state to expand their sales range without having to pay the big boys for distribution channels…I’m sure the corporate overlords at Miller had nothing to do with that of course
June 6th, 2012 at 9:05 AM
That was my life blood for college years. 50+ kegs of it ran through my apartment in college. Not to mention the innumerable cases…
/Good times
June 6th, 2012 at 9:06 AM
I’m still in shock boston won last night…..i was one who said they were too old, KG was washed up, Pierce sucks, all that…..Air France was huge for them last night
Andy Pettitte needs to be tested asap, Rays need to bounce back tonight
June 6th, 2012 at 9:06 AM
I think we can all agree that graduation ceremonies are the absolute worst, Jerry. High school and college.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:07 AM
I mostly do as well. although I have had a DO NOT ANSWER in mine before. it always made me chuckle when it came up.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:07 AM
You know he got the good stuff for helping Roger out at the trial
June 6th, 2012 at 9:07 AM
When I was in Madison a few weeks back the corporate dinner had a couple Great Dane beers on tap. I liked both the Wheat and the Pilsner.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:08 AM
and if they are mitt romney they have a fund raiser at a house where the host has adolf hitler paintings and a signed copy of mien kampf while drinking Blatz.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:08 AM
Whoa. That’s awesome that EJ posted on the TNT thread. Welcome to TBL new guy!
June 6th, 2012 at 9:08 AM
if you enjoy any of this call me maybe crap, you are an idiot.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:08 AM
I still say she’s 30.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:08 AM
‘Merica
June 6th, 2012 at 9:08 AM
I’m still in shock boston won last night…..i was one who said they were too old, KG was washed up, Pierce sucks, all that…..Air France was huge for them last night
Pierce does suck.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:09 AM
Next time, maybe Ernie Johnson will write an article, since no one reads the comments.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:09 AM
yeah he can. But he’s an idiot for slumming it with Miley Cyrus.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:10 AM
Have to wonder who’s supplying him this time.
/Once an HGH guy, always an HGH guy
June 6th, 2012 at 9:10 AM
Their Scotch Ale hits the spot
June 6th, 2012 at 9:10 AM
so I need to continue to stock up on my favorite New Glarus flavors when I go see my parents over the 4th. thanks for the heads up.
also, what a bunch of fucking dicks.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:10 AM
Elliot Johnson needs to learn how to throw a fucking ball.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:13 AM
monsters.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:13 AM
Picked up a sixer of Stone IPA last night. Damn that stuff is good. Made working on the deck last night tolerable.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:14 AM
June 6th, 2012 at 9:15 AM
Spotted cow, great summer beer.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:15 AM
one of the best readily available IPA’s i’ve ever had. great finish, easy on the palate, and it doesn’t have that overpowering soapy/floral/bitter taste other IPAs have.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:16 AM
And to define restaurant, this is the Bogey Inn, where there are somewhere between 500 and 2500 people drinking during and after the Memorial Tournament. Outside of it sits a huge (like 4000 cars) grassy parking lot for the tourney and several long tree lines.
Morons ran when the cop yelled at them. If they had just stood still, the cop would have told them to put it away and go back inside.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:16 AM
Miller owns Leinie’s. And from what I’ve heard, New Glarus beer will never be distributed outside of Wisconsin.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:17 AM
Trump said he is suing Miss Pennsylvania
June 6th, 2012 at 9:18 AM
I am so over Leinie’s.
A damn shame about this. Also, seems like 3 Floyds is becoming harder to find out here in the suburbs. Pisses me off.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:19 AM
I didn’t think they were, my mistake
June 6th, 2012 at 9:20 AM
It really is great. I got it at my local grocery store which is a nice plus. I enjoy Two Hearted a little more but it’s not at the grocery store.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:21 AM
As I posted there, I seriously hope Michael Shamburger wrote that first paragraph with sarcasm. It was incredibly obvious it was a gag.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:24 AM
I have had to use this website one billion times in the past few weeks because of that stupid Call me maybe song
June 6th, 2012 at 9:25 AM
my brother works at Leinie’s and said even though Miller owns them, it’s more or less in name only, they still have most of the say in what they do. but I am quite sad about this New Glarus news. it will keep me going to visit Wisconsin a couple times a year though, which my parents will appreciate.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:25 AM
I store people by first name and an attribute that will help me remember why they’re in my phone in the first place. Say I run into a Steve at the gym and he leaves him number because he’ll like to see if I am doing shoulder next Tuesday but I know by next Tuesday I would’ve forgotten who the hell he is since I know too many Steves hence … Probably Gay Steve
June 6th, 2012 at 9:26 AM
I dunno bout that…they’ve been together already for quite some time…close to 3 years I think.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:27 AM
where is everyone today?
June 6th, 2012 at 9:28 AM
I believe it. I don’t think that Miller would have signed off on the Big Eddy series. Now if they would just bring Northwoods & Creamy Draft back…
June 6th, 2012 at 9:29 AM
Here’s a write-up about the brewery business from the time when the budget was being put together (spoiler alert: he kept it in there)…any enemy of the Lake Louie Brewing Company is an enemy of mine
June 6th, 2012 at 9:30 AM
I really need “Good job! Good effort!” to replace this Call Me Maybe bullshit.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:30 AM
I love the picture of Lebron that Wojo uses in his latest column.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:31 AM
LOL
June 6th, 2012 at 9:31 AM
From a Jared Harris (aka Lane Pryce) interview:
June 6th, 2012 at 9:32 AM
I’m not gonna bet with you because you’ll take me to the cleaners…
June 6th, 2012 at 9:33 AM
By 8%, no lese. A damning referundum on The One’s incompletent economic policies and a sure harbinger come November.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:33 AM
Ha ha. I don’t know how Yahoo! works, but it’s very rare when a writer chooses headlines, photos and captions for his stories. That’s probably an editor’s move.
Also, just slightly, but KG looks like Omar Little in that video still.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:35 AM
I’ve got a couple of each in my fridge leftover from Christmas that are all yours. not my style at all, I’ve never been a big fan of creamy beers like that.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:35 AM
Wojo does some great deadline writing:
June 6th, 2012 at 9:36 AM
In exit polling well over 10% of Walker supports said they were still in Obama’s camp…I want to meet some of these people and just ask how and why this can be possible
June 6th, 2012 at 9:38 AM
Obama currently will win ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, DE, NJ, NY, MI, MN, IL, HI, CA, OR, WA, NM, MD, DC and probably PA (up by 6 in recent polling). He will probably win MN, IA, CO, NV, VA & OH. Enjoy another four years.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:39 AM
Is this Call Me Maybe stuff over yet?
June 6th, 2012 at 9:39 AM
Damn lack of edit, there should be a Wisconsin in that second list of states. The sentiment is the same, the electoral map is not looking good for robot Mitt.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:39 AM
when lebron loses, he never has enough around him. when he wins, its because he has the right parts and makes them better.
wojo is right- the mvp gets all the credit, and all the blame.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
Oh my. That’s the best NBA column I’ve read in years. There’s about 10 salient points in a well-crafted piece. Thanks for the link.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
I cant wait to figure out which Independent/Libertarian candidate I will be voting for in November
June 6th, 2012 at 9:41 AM
Gary Johnson is my man.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:42 AM
In trouble because parents are celebrating?? What happens if you throw a beach ball?
June 6th, 2012 at 9:42 AM
The thinking is that Obama didn’t put his nose into this business here because he’s currently looking solid to take the state and didn’t want to ruffle any feather…did manage to send out a Tweet in support of Barrett, thanks for taking the time POTUS (or whichever staffer actually did the typing)
June 6th, 2012 at 9:43 AM
And from what I’ve heard, New Glarus beer will never be distributed outside of Wisconsin
Boulevard (KCMO) used to say they’d never distribute outside of the KC Metro area. Then it was KS/MO/IA/NE. Then it was the midwest. I just saw last week they are in Boston and New York now. That’s right, dollar signs. And good for them. Nice to have a great hometown beer.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:44 AM
i also read there was a large portion of voters on all sides that felt a recall shouldn’t happen unless there’s gross misconduct.
played their hand far too early, but that’s doesn’t mean Walker gets re-elected in 2014
June 6th, 2012 at 9:45 AM
Yuengling went through a similar progression.
“We’re just PA!”
“Ok, NY/NJ too.”
“Oh, New England, sure come on down.”
June 6th, 2012 at 9:45 AM
I don’t read a lot of sports columns, but when I do it’s mostly the writers at Yahoo. A talented, articulate and knowledgeable group across the board. Woj and Marc Spears rock that NBA stuff.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:45 AM
Obama won Nebraska’s 2nd Distict’s lone electoral vote last election which meant a ton of people voted Obama and Lee Terry(R), which makes zero sense.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:46 AM
From what I’ve heard, there were a fair number of people who voted for Walker because they are anti-recall election.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:46 AM
Recalls aren’t indicative of anything.
You voted him in, fucking deal with it, Wisconin. You fat fucks.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:46 AM
I have a feeling Yuengling will be national by the end of the decade. Already is up and down the entire East Coast and starting to make its way into Ohio. The family member currently in charge wants to beat Sam Adams in volume.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:46 AM
I’m just waiting for this fraud probe that’s bringing down ex-staffers of his left and right to turn their focus on him, that might do it (on the list of their crimes was embezzling from a county fund meant for disabled veterans)…he recently shifted funds from his campaign war chest to a legal defense fund so it stands to reason he expects to be targeted coming up here
June 6th, 2012 at 9:47 AM
Waaaayyyy too early…
June 6th, 2012 at 9:47 AM
I’ve made it through two presidential voting cycles and I’m done. Fuck the entire system.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:47 AM
Maybe the Carey’s will change their minds at some point, but last I heard Deb will throw you of the property if you’re a distributor and start talking out of state distribution.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:48 AM
Mike the comedian showed up today I see.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:50 AM
They’ve got a good shot since I’m pretty sure it’s cheaper.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:50 AM
Won $270 the first time he got elected. Smug Canadians refused to believe America could vote for a black man.
Have $250 so far in this election and would want more.
Obama is the greatest president ever because for ever year in office he pays me $65.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:50 AM
Maybe the Carey’s will change their minds at some point, but last I heard Deb will throw you of the property if you’re a distributor and start talking out of state distribution.
Hawk
That is interesting. I guess it isn’t dollar signs for everyone.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:50 AM
That’s basically where I’m at. I’m ready to vote for a 3rd Party candidate out of principle alone, regardless if the guy’s the second coming of Hitler.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:52 AM
Huzzah! People are just as disillusioned with the 2 party system as I am!
/proudly displays my “Dont Blame Me, I Voted For Kodos” bumper sticker
June 6th, 2012 at 9:53 AM
2008 was so fucking unbearable during my senior year. 2 weeks before the election there would be some random guy knocking on my apartment door telling me to vote for some guy and how things would be better. I enjoyed laughing at their faces for actually believing in a politician. They should all be destroyed.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:55 AM
yeah, too bad they didn’t know about this fraud thing when the recall movement started, they could have just waited for more evidence and pounced.
i’m really interested to see how the republican govs in dem states fare in the next election, especially NJ, since nothing has really improved and we have a massive budget shortfall right now.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:56 AM
Way to stick it to the system guys, you’re making a huge difference!
June 6th, 2012 at 9:56 AM
I’ve made it through two presidential voting cycles and I’m done. Fuck the entire system.
The Lebron James mentality of voting. You have the power but fail to use it. Hope you had a good Memorial Day weekend.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:57 AM
Exactly. It’s not just these specific candidates and parties and their ideas. It’s the entire system. There’s too much power for too few people.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:57 AM
This
June 6th, 2012 at 9:58 AM
You should vote 3rd party to help them reach certain limits to be included on the debates and whatnot.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:58 AM
War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Absolutely. If Maine can vote in independent Governors, it can go national eventually.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Duverger’s Law dictates that a third party will never become strong enough to do anything. What has to happen is the current parties have to split into factions, which could happen as evidence by the idiots in the tea party.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:00 AM
I store people by first name and an attribute that will help me remember why they’re in my phone in the first place. Say I run into a Steve at the gym and he leaves him number because he’ll like to see if I am doing shoulder next Tuesday but I know by next Tuesday I would’ve forgotten who the hell he is since I know too many Steves hence … Probably Gay Steve
So my stepsis was engaged to the IronGym guy and I’d met him a few times but just knew him by first name. So he had given me his number one time and a few months later we were out and he wanted me to fwd a picture to him so as I’m going thru my phone he’s looking over my shoulder and up comes his contact info and it read MR IRONGYM. I was hella embarassed and explained to him how I didn’t know his last name and then he tells me he didn’t even notice I had him listed as MR IRONGYM lol
June 6th, 2012 at 10:01 AM
How awful for you that people show up at your door trying to influence your participation in a democratic free society. First world problems ARE problems.
You do have two parties though and it’s glib to write the whole thing off from apathy. It’s as simple as answering this question: Do you think austerity would help rebuild the economy?
June 6th, 2012 at 10:01 AM
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:01 AM
Did anyone watch Venus’ transit last night? I went to a local observatory and put on some cool glasses for a look. The sun went behind the tree line before I could look through the giant telescope. The line to see through that thing was really long.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:02 AM
3 Floyds is fantastic. That Artic Panzer Wolf is the shit.
Political Friday on a Wednesday?!
June 6th, 2012 at 10:03 AM
And by US political history. There have been tons of different parties.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Not for a very, very long time though. The era of new parties died almost 100 years ago I’m afraid.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:05 AM
Agreed.
I vote….but honestly, has anything changed for anyone here since the last presidential election? (That’s a serious question)
My guess, is that it hasn’t, but if it has, I’d be interested to hear how.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:06 AM
June 6th, 2012 at 10:06 AM
Urban Meyer suspends two Ohio State leaders indefinitely
Leaders or Legends?
June 6th, 2012 at 10:06 AM
Snooki’s pregnant, Miley Cyrus is engaged, and I’m just getting drunk.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:07 AM
The only truly important third parties in US History were Bull Moose with Teddy Roosevelt in 1912 and Ross Perot in 1992, and both lead to Democrats being elected. Unless the current Dem & Rep parties fracture into Progressive, Conservative Dem, Moderate Rep and Tea Party factions, a third party will not be sustainable.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:07 AM
Also more people would actually have to care about getting informed.
Our laziness is more responsible for idiots getting elected than the fact there’s only two parties to vote for.
/Gary Johnson in 2012
June 6th, 2012 at 10:08 AM
The only way a “third” party candidate would matter on the national stage is if they had hundreds of millions of dollars to spend. Either that means they’re going to be a batshit insane loner like Perot, or, shocker, they’re going to have massive lobby backing and be just the same as either of the established parties.
Unless the system itself is completely changed it will never happen.
The system won’t change because those in power benefit from it being like it is.
You don’t matter.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:09 AM
If you are earnestly interested in a third party you would need to repeal Federal Election Campaign Act which allows Super Pac and unlimited campaign donations. No thrid party can compete with billions in spending.
One party lobbied for the unlimited spending, it will not surprise you which party.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:09 AM
Not really, which is why I crack up when people like Ted Nugent, or our own MikeNYC act as though the end is coming for the U.S. If McCain had won in 2008 the economy would still suck. It was clear as day that it had been driven off of a cliff and the dude who was then given the keys could only soften the blow. 5 years from now there will be another boom cycle and people will be popping champaign until the next bust cycle.
rinse and repeat
June 6th, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Stoney will be the finest TE in the B1G this year.
/not saying much
June 6th, 2012 at 10:11 AM
It won’t matter who you elect as president… nothing will change until there is some radical lobbyist and PAC reform.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:11 AM
All of this. They have to be able to fund their own campaign because the big money will always go to the established parties. Bloomberg could run. Not sure he could win, but he would steal votes from both sides. that’s for sure.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Not if you listen to my Dad’s side of the family. It was like the worst of Faux News, Limbaugh and Hannity combined the last time I saw them two weeks ago. Rationality and facts just don’t seem to matter.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:13 AM
The libertarian candidate was on John Stewart last nite… My problem with libertarians is that their ideas have a lot of merit but only in theory. In practice the ideology makes 2 fatal assumptions
1) Humans without coercion always act in their own best short and long term interest
2) Each individual acting in their own best interest aggregates into a common good.
This all works if you are willing to ignore the realities of human nature which makes us very vulnerable to destroying the common good for our own immediate gratification. When largely left to our devices we are unlikely to create a society any one of us wants to live in.
So even a 3 party system also sucks balls.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:14 AM
Please stop with the political stuff. The system suchs, everyone in it is corrupt, nothing will ever change, enough.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:14 AM
I cant wait to figure out which Independent/Libertarian candidate I will be voting for in November
If the electorate really wants more change, change your voter registration to “I” and get your kids to do the same.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:16 AM
I’d do away with the whole idea of registering as a member of a party…we don’t in this state, not really sure the purpose outside of what, trying to prevent people doctoring primaries?
June 6th, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Totally agree with this… it doesn’t matter who the President is if the lobbyists and special interests continue to exert undue influence. I would be in favor of some sort of publicly financed election process as a start.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Change your LinkedIn passwords.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Yep. Recently austerity has failed:
1982 developing world debt crisis
1994 Mexican
1997 Asian crisis,
1998 Brazilian and the Russian crises
2002. Argentina
Present day Euro zone, Canada, USA and England.
Yet these dumb motherfuckers continue with austerity out of stubborn refusal to reexamine their failed dogma.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Businesses don’t need regulation, they will act in the public’s best interest.
/from North Carolina
//watched the textile and furniture industries flee to Mexico and Asia in the 90s, destroying half the state
///RON PAUL FOR ERRYTHING I’M A STUPID COLLEGE STUDENT
June 6th, 2012 at 10:18 AM
High five, SG.
Let’s add term limits.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:18 AM
he will alienate the fatties who want their soda and cigarettes, damn the consequences and don’t take their medicare away so they can pay for their insulin and oxygen tanks.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:20 AM
Oh my God, someone may find out where I work!
June 6th, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Already did this..
June 6th, 2012 at 10:25 AM
I think the bigger cause for concern is that most people use passwords for multiple sites, so if someone has your email address and a password that you’re known to use, there is a chance they could get into something more serious than LinkedIn.
Granted, if millions of passwords were hacked, statistically speaking you’re probably safe – it would take forever to get through that list – but still…
I’m tired of all these web sites getting hacked. I invested some time in learning a password manager add-on for Firefox and it’s been great.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:25 AM
Well, you inadvertently hit the nail on the head. When the government is responsible for paying for its citizenz health costs, don’t be surprised when they start taking a greater interest in what you’re putting into your body. Big government begets bigger government.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Do those cunts know British Gold Standard Act 1925 was repealed in 1931? This shit already happened and failed. When did it come to pass that ideas are unchanging in the face of reality.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:28 AM
I thought Huntsman might give it a shot. He still might if there were some better support for him.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:30 AM
W and Reagan agree.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:31 AM
How about we stop all of those agricultural subsidies so farmers can grow corn to make HFCS which is what is causing the nation to become dumb and fat? Oh wait, that helps big business, we want government to continue that.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:31 AM
I don’t necessarily agree with the idea of term limits. Politics and government is just like any other profession – it takes time to gain expertise on important policy issues, different functions of government, etc. In general, I don’t have a problem with long-serving politicians because often times they’re the most effective.
Want to make politics more effective? Remove money from the equation. I admit I don’t have all the answers on how to do this, but it ruins the entire system. Politicians spend too much time raising money, and then when they get elected it turns into a quid pro quo for those who donated. It will only get worse now, post-Citizens United.
I think of it like salary caps in the NFL. The salary cap removed money from the equation, forcing teams to make shrewd strategic decisions about talent rather than just buying the best players. Remove the influence that money has on politics, so that everything and everyone can’t be bought, and force these guys to win on the strength of their ideas and the competence of their governance rather than the size of their ad buys.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Here in nanny state Canada our 711 Big Gulp cups overfloweth.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:33 AM
And about this soda consumption issue…seriously, is it that fucking hard for people to start drinking diet soda? Good Christ.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:35 AM
DOWN WITH FAT PEOPLE!!!!!!
/continues to fetishize the cigarette and scotch culture of Mad Men
June 6th, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Is is that fucking hard to understand that this is beside the point?
June 6th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
How is it beside the point? Who cares how much of something you drink when it has no calories?
June 6th, 2012 at 10:43 AM
so, what’s the point? to let people eat and drink whatever harmful products they want?
should we also repeal the Pure Food and Drug Act and Meat Inspection Act while we are at it?
June 6th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
I don’t agree with Mike but at least he’s consistent on that stuff.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:47 AM
My desire to drink gallons of carbonated sugar water supersedes people’s right to health.
/Slams fist on desk
//Has stroke
///Refinances home
June 6th, 2012 at 10:49 AM
My guess is diet soda isn’t that good for you either. I refuse to believe there’s a healthy process for extracting every single calorie from a can of soda.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
I thought the thinking now is diet soda gets you in that once the brain receives fake sugar it desires the real stuff so while the soda itself won’t kill you if one then caves and loads up that will be the problem
June 6th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Nothing like a political discussion thread to make me hate people I otherwise enjoy.
/looking at you
June 6th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
I don’t doubt it although from what (admittedly little) I know the science on this is unclear. The relationship between calories and weight is not, however.
All I’m saying is, there’s obviously a huge tension between soda-addicted people and health advocates. Soda is a problem, there’s just no getting around it. Diet soda isn’t the ultimate solution, but it’s a step in the right direction. So why it never gets mentioned is beyond me.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:55 AM
This made me laugh.
/nods at Wally’s World
June 6th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
And who gets to decide what’s harmful, and what’s an appropriate “serving size”? The Mayor of NYC gets to determine how many ounces of soda I’m allowed to buy in a single cup, when I’m an adult fully capable of making my own informed decisions? I haven’t had a non-diet soda in probably over five years. If I wanted to go out to lunch today and buy a 32-oz cup of Coke, that’s your decision to say I’m not allowed to? Really?
And you can’t deny the slippery slope implications. Why would I be able to walk into a Five Guys and order:
– 1 bacon cheeseburger: 920 calories, 62 g of fat, 29.5 g of saturated fat, 1310 mg of sodium
– 1 large fries: 1474 calories (!), 71 g of fat, 14 g of saturated fat, 213 mg of sodium
But I can’t order a 20-oz Coke?
How does that make sense, in your world of government telling me what is and is not good for my own body?
June 6th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Aspartame fucks your satiety gland and makes you want to eat more.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
fatties always getting sick impacts my health insurance premiums and my paycheck with taxes. fatties gotta get healthy, the corporations that sell unhealthy processed foods to the fatties won’t change how they do business b/c it’s profitable as it stands now.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:00 AM
No. The tension is between goverment nanny staters and individual people who believe adults are capable of making their own informed decisions of what food and beverage they can put into their bodies.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:00 AM
Agreed that all drugs should be made legal and subsequent sales taxable
June 6th, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Mike, you’re absolutely right about the slippery slope. But we also have to acknowledge that what we eat and drink as individuals has effects on society as well. Eat enough Five Guys and it’s going to cost a lot more for your health care, which does affect everyone else – whether it’s through Medicare expenses or higher private insurance premiums.
I’m kind of lukewarm on the idea of a soda tax or ban, in part because of what you said – it’s one small part of the problem. But I think in coming years health insurance will start to look different – a lot like smoking vs. non-smoking life insurance. You want to eat like shit? Fine, but you’re going to pay more for it.
So ultimately you can have all the freedom to eat what you want, I just won’t have to subsidize your health insurance premiums.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:06 AM
ok, adults can do what they want… what about companies targeting kids with these unhealthy foods and drinks at an early age? how is that different than Joe Camel or alcohol being marketed to kids?
even private insurance companies will have to raise their rates to account for the obese and diabetic public that’s more expensive to insure.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:07 AM
The talk about the nanny state is such bullshit. People talk about freedom as if their choices have no consequences on anyone else.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:08 AM
If someone can just help me square that Five Guys circle above, I can maybe possible understand the support for Bloomberg’s ban.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:09 AM
A tax is the most effective way to modify behavior with minimal slippery slopery and moral hazards. The biggest issue with the Bloomberg idea is that it will be completely ineffective at inducing the change it seeks.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:09 AM
i can’t, but fries are just as insulin-shocking as soda…ban them while you’re at it.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:10 AM
/for the record, completely totally anti-banning soda
//cynically sarcastic “ban them too” comment in 185
June 6th, 2012 at 11:11 AM
Those cajun fries should be banned for being shitty
June 6th, 2012 at 11:13 AM
I agree with what you’re saying about ordering a drink vs. a burger and fries. That’s why the idea of a soda ban is kind of weak, IMO. But it’s just one more method to chip away at public health care issues, along the lines of trans fat bans, public smoking bans, etc. They’re trying to do something.
Which is why I’m not that upset philosophically about the idea, even if I’m not real jazzed about the particular execution in this instance.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:13 AM
/likes their cajun fries
June 6th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
Businesses like Five Guys won’t exist if their workers are too goddamned fat to function properly.
The cost of personal freedom is a health care bill that private companies will not be able to afford. I’m not a fan of the ban, but at least it’s an idea.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Demolition Man seems to have the most accurate portrayal of the future than any other movie I can think of. Except for the three sea shells.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
very true. official ban should be for cooking them in the worst way possible. oil is too hot, evaporates the water in the fry, the fry soaks up the oil and becomes a gross soggy mess.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
But the burgers and fries are just as bad, if not worse, for you. So is alchohol. So if the bans start making their way to other products, you’ll be okay with those too, in the name of “trying to do something”, right?
June 6th, 2012 at 11:19 AM
So ultimately you can have all the freedom to eat what you want, I just won’t have to subsidize your health insurance premiums.
This is the ideal, but it requires fixing the real problem – decoupling health insurance from the government. As long as tax payer dollars are used to pay for healthcare, then my food decisions will affect all other tax payers who will have to subsidize my poor behavior.
There are two solutions: Use the coercive power of government to try to change my behavior to rein in costs – the so called nanny state solution.
Or, remove the government as a payor in the healthcare equation. In this scenario, my insurance can be priced to reflect my poor decisions without affecting the healthcare costs of others. I suspect this is what Mike NYC is advocating – allows me the freedom to make my own decisions, even if they are ultimately bad decisions – I will just have to suffer the consequences in terms of higher premiums or no coverage.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Sadly, I believe the Hemsworth/Cyrus union is headed for epic fail.
/crazy kids
//hope I’m wrong
June 6th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
Didn’t Bloomberg kick off National Donut Day the day after the soda ban was announced? That struck me as HILARIOUS.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Here is the stupidity of the nanny staters’ rationale, personified in Peter King’s column:
Remember that the ban isn’t on the product, but on the serving size.
Peter King’s coffee:
calories, per ounce: 14.4
grams of sugar, per ounce: 2.25
7-11 Big Gulp:
calories, per ounce: 11.4
grams of sugar, per ounce: 2.84
And this idiot is in favor of the ban, while he has sections in his column devoted to the coffee and beer he drinks every week. Just amazing.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
/facepalm
June 6th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Alcohol is heavily taxed and regulated. Bad example.
Let’s flip this around. Would you prefer that nobody tries anything at all? That we get fatter and do absolutely nothing to try to combat skyrocketing health care costs?
I don’t think a ban on anything is the ultimate solution. Maybe higher taxes on certain products is, I don’t know. But we need to do a better job of attaching specific costs to specific behaviors. Charging people more for insurance if you’re going to eat like shit and weigh 300 lbs.
But it’s something.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Higher premiums aren’t the only consequences.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Agreed 100%.
Personally I don’t mind cracking down on horrible foods, not so much for adults but for children (especially in schools), but to just target sodas when so much other stuff is horrible for you just seems laughable beyond belief.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Yes, but he urged moderation!
June 6th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
exactly.
the sodas and sugary drinks are marketing directly to kids and the school lunches that pass for healthy.
pizza is considered a vegetable thanks to the pizza lobby and the republican and dem politicians who pushed for a more lax nutritional policy in school lunches.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Mike, let’s cut to the chase here. What’s your solution?
June 6th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
The Pizza Lobby has infiltrated the UN as well.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
For adults? The solution is easy. Take responsibility for your own damn self. Go to the gym every day. Watch what you eat. It really isn’t that hard. I mean, really, it isn’t. It’s amazing how well you can take care of yourself without the mayor of a major city banning portion sizes of a certain product. It’s liberating, really.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
Seeing as that’s my name as well I will just add: no fat chicks.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Come on Mike. In a perfect world everyone would do that. But what you just said does not whatsoever address the obesity problem and the fact that healthy adults have to pay for the fatties.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
I mean a policy solution. You’re a major government official who wants to do something substantive to combat obesity. Go.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Everyone drink liquor neat.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Unless there’s zero history of cancer or heart disease in your family you can go fuck yourself, preachy.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
it also doesn’t address how lower income individuals caring for more than themselves struggle to make ends meet when paying more for healthy foods.
you think the dollar menu was created to give upper middle class people a few more extra bucks to kick around on the weekend?
no, it was put there to lure more lower income people and families to mcdonalds as a cheaper way to eat and feed a family when you only have a few bucks in your pocket.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
I don’t necessarily agree with the idea of term limits. Politics and government is just like any other profession – it takes time to gain expertise on important policy issues, different functions of government, etc. In general, I don’t have a problem with long-serving politicians because often times they’re the most effective.
That’s why term limits WOULD work.
Think about it: you get 12 years max as a Rep (six terms), then if you want to continue in public service, you would have to become a Senator. Two terms as a Senator (12 years), then if you want to do anything else on the national stage, you’d better get appointed to a cabinet or be a running mate. Again, we’re weeding out more “career politicians” and saying, “if you want to hang around, you’re going to have to get better at this.” Do I think we’ll still have career politicians? Yeah, but we’ll ween many of them out and basically force those assholes to not rest on their laurels.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
It’s easier but it’s not cheaper. For the price of four dollar menu items I can get enough rice and beans to last the week.
/had a burger last night instead of cooking rice and beans because I was tired
June 6th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
All snark aside, I think what Michelle O is doing has been great (even if she supports the ban) — going out there, and educating people, getting the message across: exercise and diet. I would hire her as my health advocate. Does that count as “policy”?
June 6th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
question is: who is cooking rice and beans when you can have mcdonalds?
June 6th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Given the fact that
not everymost adults will not do this the question is what is our recourse. As stated earlier you can either implement measures to coerce good behavior or remove government from the business of backstopping healthcare for the less fortunate.The problem with the latter is that its costs are very well disguised until fully implemented. It might sound very attractive but no society is willing to let fat poor people perish without health care on account that they did that to themselves…. there’s a delicate truce between the well to do and the poor that when violated results in undesirable conditions for all.
If you are interested in reality you will quickly come to a realization that us middle class and above folks must bribe the less fortunate into letting us enjoy our earned resources in peace. Part of this bribe is paying for their health care. Clearly we don’t want to over bribe but you get the idea.
Is it fair? Nope but fairness is a concept invented so that idiots and children can participate in arguments.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
And by limiting/shutting down those cheaper/unhealthier options will help to motivate lower income people by … leading them to starve to death? I’m afraid I don’t see the connection.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:51 AM
skinny’s in.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:51 AM
No snark here Mike, but no that isn’t really policy because while she is a great voice to raise awareness for the cause, she’s not enacting policy. I’m sure someone can articulate this better than me, but the policy side is more substantive.
I’m all for what Michelle Obama is doing too, and education is a key component. But I think we’re in too deep a hole here to rely on education alone.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
I see where you’re going but I don’t agree with forcing that choice. Some people are just far better at the local retail politics and are better suited for a House seat rather than trying to run for statewide election. Not to mention that even after many years in the House there are still things to strive for, like committee seniority, etc.
As far as weeding out “career politicians,” isn’t that what elections are for? If we dislike them so much, why do we keep voting them back in?
June 6th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
Whether I agree or disagree, I, for one, always enjoy Mike NYC’s discussions on here. Wish there were more of ‘em.
June 6th, 2012 at 12:12 PM
the sodas and sugary drinks are marketing directly to kids and the school lunches that pass for healthy.
pizza is considered a vegetable thanks to the pizza lobby and the republican and dem politicians who pushed for a more lax nutritional policy in school lunches.
No shit food in public schools. If my tax dollars are going to fund public schools, then I want kids to at least eat healthy or not have access to shit food during the day.
Never thought I’d say this, but I get where MikeNYC is coming from in terms of self-reliance. Adults should be able to make their own damn decisions and live with the consequences.
June 6th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
@heldover…I think most of us think the way you do. I certainly do. Yet none of us are nearly as independent as we all think we are. If you’re self-employed and paying for your own insurance, your rates are still set in part by the health of other people in the insurance pool. The whole problem here is that people aren’t just living with the consequences of their own decisions, they’re living with (and paying for) the consequences of OTHER people’s decisions.
As for issues like food in public schools, we have to acknowledge that there are entrenched interests donating money to politicians and otherwise doing whatever they need to ensure that their products are still readily available to kids who want them.
If you can’t be a part of the solution, there’s a lot of money to be made in prolonging the problem.
June 6th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
As far as weeding out “career politicians,” isn’t that what elections are for? If we dislike them so much, why do we keep voting them back in?
Because people are fucking idiots and will continue to vote for the same schmuck again and again, no matter how corrupt or ineffective he may be. And while I’m at it, I’m all for shifting seniority around as well.
June 6th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
This jives with “Adults should be able to make their own damn decisions and live with the consequences”
June 6th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
All I can say is, we get the representation we deserve. You said yourself adults should be able to make their own decisions and live with the consequences. So why should that be true in food choices and not elections?
June 6th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
I think most of us think the way you do. I certainly do. Yet none of us are nearly as independent as we all think we are.
If you’re referring to independent as a political affiliation, I would say I probably lean more left, but I’m sure as shit not going to identify as a Democrat, because frankly, fuck those folks. By registering with the “I” I’m pretty much telling both sides, “hey, sell me on why you’re better than the other person.” And if more than 50 percent of the electorate is registered as independent, then both sides will have to tread carefully, which I’m all for.
June 6th, 2012 at 12:34 PM
All I can say is, we get the representation we deserve. You said yourself adults should be able to make their own decisions and live with the consequences. So why should that be true in food choices and not elections?
If somebody wants to destroy themselves with beer/food/drugs, so be it. But if you’re too fucking stupid/lazy to vote out a guy caught with $50k in cash in his freezer because you think the govt is out to get him because he’s a black politician or some other such nonsense, then I can’t abide by that.
June 6th, 2012 at 12:36 PM
I meant in terms of people taking responsibility for their choices. In principle, most people agree with that. And if you asked, most people probably would say they live out that very philosophy.
In reality, we know that people are full of biases and contradictions and irrationalities and make bad choices, many of which they think are good choices, all the time. People are messy.
June 6th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Because people are fucking idiots and will continue to vote for the same schmuck again and again
This jives with “Adults should be able to make their own damn decisions and live with the consequences”
I’m a complicated man. But no one understands me but my woman.
June 6th, 2012 at 12:41 PM
And others would probably say they can live with the outcome of an election but can’t abide by people killing themselves and driving up everyone else’s insurance rates with their poor choices.
Conundrum.