MLB is Making the Instant Replay Decision Far More Complicated Than it Should Be

All, Baseball, Media Gossip/Musings Jason McIntyre June 6th. 2012, 12:10pm

Ken Rosenthal wrote maybe 3,500 words on MLB and instant replay, and at every turn, another question popped up. It was as if he spoke to MLB brass about the subject, and they kept telling him they don’t want it. Rosenthal doesn’t even weigh in himself – too close to MLB to say “get it done?” – which is kind of sad for a columnist of his caliber. [UPDATE: Rosenthal has passed along this column he wrote in Sept. 2010, imploring the sport to get instant replay.]

Yet, commissioner Bud Selig remains wary of slowing down games, and opponents of replay fear a “robotization” of the sport that eventually would extend to ball-strike calls.

The sport needs instant replay.

The complexities stem not just from the necessary investment in technology, which would be sizable no matter which system baseball introduced.
Agreements must be forged with both the players’ and umpires’ unions. Pace-of-game concerns must be addressed. And new rules must be adopted to address the fallout from changed calls.

The sport needs instant replay.

Can baseball institute new rules and technology without dramatically altering the pace of games?

Yes, the NBA and NFL have done so. Baseball can, too. The sport needs instant replay.

Say a call on a tag at home plate is changed from safe to out. Say the catcher had fired to second after the play at the plate and thrown out a runner trying to advance to second. If the runner at the plate is out, is the runner at second still out? How does that work exactly?

Of course he’s out. The sport needs instant replay.

How far does the sport want to go?

Nobody asking for balls and strikes. They just want the right calls. The sport needs instant replay. [Fox Sports]

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94 Responses to “MLB is Making the Instant Replay Decision Far More Complicated Than it Should Be”

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VladimirCrouton Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:12 PM
Choo was safe last night. But the umps did get the call right last night on that tremendous play by Droobs.
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SouvenirCity Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:14 PM
The sport has instant replay, Jason. Could you please be more specific on which areas you’d like it implemented? You’ll find few detractors that say it shouldn’t be made available for fair/foul calls. We’ve got it for home runs (used last night even on a very close game tying tater in Boston). Do you want it for out/safe calls? Dropped third strike checks?
It’s never going to happen for the strikezone. Umpiring is a profession and baseball isn’t in the business of cutting jobs right now.
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mmonast Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:14 PM
Say a call on a tag at home plate is changed from safe to out. Say the catcher had fired to second after the play at the plate and thrown out a runner trying to advance to second. If the runner at the plate is out, is the runner at second still out? H
How fucking stupid is this clown? Why wouldn’t the runner at 2nd be out??
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molemaninthemorning Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:16 PM
Yes, the NBA and NFL have done so. Baseball can, too. The sport needs instant replay.
Is this really true? Remember when they used to put the countdown clock on when there was a replay because of the time limit and it almost always went over?
The pace of NFL games is mind numbingly slow. Replay makes it that much longer. That’s exactly the worry they have with baseball. I don’t see how your point here carries any validity.
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mmonast Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:17 PM
An umpire, in the booth would take very little time to review a play (say a tag at home, or a called foul ball) and call back down. Games are already long, an extra 3 minutes won’t matter much
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kaiserwilhelmreems Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:17 PM
good job good effort….
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rodmansrage Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:18 PM
opponents of replay fear a “robotization” of the sport that eventually would extend to ball-strike calls.
christ almighty, this should have happened by now. just have those middle aged, pudgy guys standing at the bases calling “out” or “safe”
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ButtersBC Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
How would you enforce stuff like the Beltran hit though…the ump rules it foul and it gets overturned, do they assume he’d have made it to second safely or does he just end up at first? Either way someone’s getting pissed off about it
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MP Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
The complexities stem not just from the necessary investment in technology, which would be sizable no matter which system baseball introduced.
LOL.
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SouvenirCity Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
How would you enforce stuff like the Beltran hit though…the ump rules it foul and it gets overturned, do they assume he’d have made it to second safely or does he just end up at first? Either way someone’s getting pissed off about it
Pretty good point right here.
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molemaninthemorning Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
How would you enforce stuff like the Beltran hit though…the ump rules it foul and it gets overturned, do they assume he’d have made it to second safely or does he just end up at first?
Isn’t this kind of thing already addressed in the way we look at ground rule doubles and balls thrown into the crowd?
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mmonast Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
How would you enforce stuff like the Beltran hit though…the ump rules it foul and it gets overturned, do they assume he’d have made it to second safely or does he just end up at first? Either way someone’s getting pissed off about it
This is a much more valid concern regarding replay in baseball. Do you assume double, single or is the rule plays like that, subject to review would only advance runners 1 base?
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Ty_Webb Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
how about we start by dealing these asshole umpires, they are supposed to work silently in the backround, not be the focus of the game
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
The complexities stem not just from the necessary investment in technology, which would be sizable no matter which system baseball introduced.
F.P. Santangelo already is checked out in replay-ology. MASN is leading the way, and some STG-type defense contractor has sponsored the on-screen strike zone.
The military-industrial complex saves the day again!
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St. Bear Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
The sport needs instant replay.
The sport needs instant replay.
Yes, the NBA and NFL have done so. Baseball can, too. The sport needs instant replay.
Of course he’s out. The sport needs instant replay.
Nobody asking for balls and strikes. They just want the right calls. The sport needs instant replay.
Only a Sith deals with absolutes.
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SouvenirCity Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Baseball thread so baseball question: Who are potential suitors for Carlos Quentin this deadline? Raking out of the gates and the Padres will most likely want to sell high on him. They’re years away from contention and along with the Cubs they’re the only defined sellers right now. I have the Rays, Indians, Angels and maybe the Phillies in mind.
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ButtersBC Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Isn’t this kind of thing already addressed in the way we look at ground rule doubles and balls thrown into the crowd?
Good point, since anything of that nature would involve a shot down the line perhaps you’d just make it a standard two-bagger
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jthussler Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
I hope that, for his own sake, TBL doesn’t try to engage Jorge Arangure – or any other writer / media personality who argues with facts – about any subject involving baseball again.
The clown suit Arangure stitched the other day on Twitter for the EIC was a bit embarrassing. Surprised those tweets haven’t since been deleted.
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rittyrich Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
The sport needs instant replay.
Can we advance beyond the “because I said so” logic?
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kaiserwilhelmreems Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:27 PM
How fucking stupid is this clown? Why wouldn’t the runner at 2nd be out??
it’s not a great example, but think about some of the more interesting situations of how a play can continue with runners on base after a call is made.
lets say a bloop single with a runner on first is ruled a hit b/c the fielder trapped it, then bobbled it and the runner on first advanced to second based on the call incorrect call of it being a hit and they didn’t tag up. the call is reviewed and overturned ruling it an out. then what happens to the runner on second? does he just go back to first? is he out if the 1b gets the ball and tags first base? what if there was two runners on 2nd and third and one scored?
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adamp Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:28 PM
It’s pretty freaking hilarious that these clowns won’t add replay because of concerns about adding 3-5 minutes to games, but they have no problem squashing in minutes of extra commercials between innings.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Who are potential suitors for Carlos Quentin this deadline?
Who’s got MLB-ready prospects? Maybe the Phillies. How about the Braves?
IMO, the Rays (Jennings, Upton)and Angels (Hunter) have guys on the roster that can be productive. They’ve just gotta be healthy and consistent.
I’ll bet the White Sox miss “hard hittin’ Carlos Quent’in”.
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kaiserwilhelmreems Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Isn’t this kind of thing already addressed in the way we look at ground rule doubles and balls thrown into the crowd?
but that’s for balls that go outside the playing field. how do you determine the play wouldn’t have been an inside the park home run, triple, double or the runner tagged out sliding in to second when the ball was on the field and incorrectly called a foul?
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YYSA Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
How would you enforce stuff like the Beltran hit though…the ump rules it foul and it gets overturned, do they assume he’d have made it to second safely or does he just end up at first?
Similar to what NFL referees do on turnovers in that they should swallow their whistle. The Umps would have to be taught on borderline plays like this to call it fair and then look at it in replay. The play would still play out like normal and if it is then ruled foul in replay then he goes back to the plate.
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Billy Buckner Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
Who are potential suitors for Carlos Quentin this deadline?
A commenter on MLBTR was really hounding this O’s fan a while back that the O’s should trade for him, which was stupid for a lot of reasons. The most obvious being that he was trying to convince a random fan to OK this trade, when he’s just a commenter and not Dan Duquette.
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phillymantis915 Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
SC – Phillies will sell if they’re under .500 at ASG. And hopefully they will dump Juan Pierre into a tank filled with angry blood hungry sharks.
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Billy Buckner Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:33 PM
Having an extra ump in the press box (or his own little room up there, whatever) to review certain calls seems like common sense to me, but Butters makes a pretty good point.
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molemaninthemorning Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:33 PM
but that’s for balls that go outside the playing field. how do you determine the play wouldn’t have been an inside the park home run, triple, double or the runner tagged out sliding in to second when the ball was on the field and incorrectly called a foul?
Well I just mean in that it’s a rule based on an assumption. They had to decide something for it, and they did. It’s not perfect and sometimes it screws someone, but it’s a decent way of approaching it.
Hockey has the best replay system in my opinion (aside from cheap as fuck networks that won’t pony up for goal cams). You keep playing until the next stoppage. If a goal was missed, it’s reviewed, and if it was a good goal, the clock rolls back and you replay from that point. FREE HOCKEY!
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payaso Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:34 PM
Posts like this always leave me sort of impressed with Jason falling into low seven figures.
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Jason Lisk Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:35 PM
I would say fair/foul are automatically reviewed if in question, just like home run or not.
I would give managers a challenge system similar to football on any (non-called strike out) out calls. They talk about time, but how much time is wasted by managers coming out to argue after a player has already argued, and then the manager gets tossed because he was (usually correctly) arguing a call? Give them 3, they choose when to use, rather than argue, they just come out, immediately signal for review, and probably takes same time.
As for the Beltran play, good question. I think you have to either say runners advance only one base, or call it an automatic ground rule double if it hit fair instead of foul and all runners advance to. Just come up with a hard and fast rule. NFL has restrictions like no fumbles can be reversed, but not advanced, etc., same thing. A hit is better than an out there, even if only get a single instead of a potential for a double.
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St. Bear Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Posts like this always leave me sort of impressed with Jason falling into low seven figures.
Solid opinion, bud.
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kaiserwilhelmreems Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Posts like this always leave me sort of impressed with Jason falling into low seven figures.
wonders where those 7 figures are without the commentariate
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ButtersBC Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:35 PM
I’ll bet the White Sox miss “hard hittin’ Carlos Quent’in”.
They don’t have a spot for him right now with Viciedo, De Aza and Rios all producing
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guinnessgirl13 Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:35 PM
How many vicinity calls would be overturned?
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ms621 Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:36 PM
Yes, the NBA and NFL have done so
The NBA uses it to see if a shot was made before time ran out. That’s fairly easy to figure out in 90% of cases. Instant replay has significantly slowed down the pace of NFL AND college games. In college, it’s gotten to the point where on every big play or impressive catch, the viewer reflexively waits for the referee to inevitably come out and say “The previous play is under review”. It kills momentum and fun.
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molemaninthemorning Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:36 PM
De Aza
ZAZA!
/shoots Tony Montegna
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St. Bear Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:37 PM
Hockey has the best replay system in my opinion
How good can hockey be doing, if it’s not even covered by the world’s “#1 Sports Blog That Only Covers Sports 1/3 Of The Time”?
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Jason McIntyre Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:37 PM
I would say fair/foul are automatically reviewed if in question, just like home run or not.
I would give managers a challenge system similar to football on any (non-called strike out) out calls. They talk about time, but how much time is wasted by managers coming out to argue after a player has already argued, and then the manager gets tossed because he was (usually correctly) arguing a call? Give them 3, they choose when to use, rather than argue, they just come out, immediately signal for review, and probably takes same time.
As for the Beltran play, good question. I think you have to either say runners advance only one base, or call it an automatic ground rule double if it hit fair instead of foul and all runners advance to. Just come up with a hard and fast rule. NFL has restrictions like no fumbles can be reversed, but not advanced, etc., same thing. A hit is better than an out there, even if only get a single instead of a potential for a double.
+1
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Babar 2.0 Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Hockey has the best replay system in my opinion (aside from cheap as fuck networks that won’t pony up for goal cams). You keep playing until the next stoppage. If a goal was missed, it’s reviewed, and if it was a good goal, the clock rolls back and you replay from that point. FREE HOCKEY!
I don’t watch hockey…if the next stoppage is a goal (even by the other team)…it rolls back to the previous goal, and the 2nd goal is wiped away?
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MP Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
+1
ttyl
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ms621 Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
wonders where those 7 figures are without the commentariate
We are the gum on the bottom of the shoe around here. We make up a tiny portion of the page hits. We are, to some of the folks who run this place, the dried up piece of toothpaste that gets stuck to the inside corner of your mouth after you brush your teeth.
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squawkbox Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Only a Sith deals with absolutes.
Nerd
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YYSA Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
It kills momentum and fun.
I hardly think that will be a problem in baseball.
/Throws to 1st three times
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St. Bear Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
We are the gum on the bottom of the shoe around here. We make up a tiny portion of the page hits. We are, to some of the folks who run this place, the dried up piece of toothpaste that gets stuck to the inside corner of your mouth after you brush your teeth.
I like to think of us as the public hair that occasionally gets caught in the back of your throat after going down on a woman.
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St. Bear Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Only a Sith deals with absolutes.
Nerd
But you got it, so what does that say about you?
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:41 PM
They don’t have a spot for him right now with Viciedo, De Aza and Rios all producing
That is surprising. He’s been doggin’ it for a while, now. If he keeps up the level of effort, the Sox will contend all year.
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SouvenirCity Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:41 PM
It’s pretty freaking hilarious that these clowns won’t add replay because of concerns about adding 3-5 minutes to games, but they have no problem squashing in minutes of extra commercials between innings.
Yes. Making money off advertising is really something MLB should stop doing. Killing the business model.
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St. Bear Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:41 PM
I like to think of us as the public hair that occasionally gets caught in the back of your throat after going down on a woman.
Yeah, that’s a typo. So what?
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VladimirCrouton Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:42 PM
Ubaldo’s stat line looked good last night. But I still thought he was all over the place. Tigers really helped him out.
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Babar 2.0 Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:42 PM
I like to think of us as the public hair that occasionally gets caught in the back of your throat after going down on a woman.
…and the pain in the neck.
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ButtersBC Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
That is surprising. He’s been doggin’ it for a while, now
I guess he’s good every other year or something weird like that…had a solid 2010 campaign and is doing well this year, I think being in RF instead of center again helps
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molemaninthemorning Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
I don’t watch hockey…if the next stoppage is a goal (even by the other team)…it rolls back to the previous goal, and the 2nd goal is wiped away?
Yes.
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squawkbox Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
We are the gum on the bottom of the shoe around here. We make up a tiny portion of the page hits.
I may just start add multiple TBL links to my signature just to be sure I don’t ever get the banhammer. I’m getting pretty grouchy lately so I may just unleash a storm of insults to everyone here.
/I’m awesome at thinly veiled threats
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ms621 Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
I hardly think that will be a problem in baseball.
/Throws to 1st three times
Shouldn’t you be preparing for the Haboob season.
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squawkbox Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:44 PM
But you got it, so what does that say about you?
Um, errr … I have kids?
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ms621 Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:44 PM
I’m getting pretty grouchy lately so I may just unleash a storm of insults to everyone here.
Should I get popcorn and pull up a chair?
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SouvenirCity Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:45 PM
if the next stoppage is a goal (even by the other team)…it rolls back to the previous goal, and the 2nd goal is wiped away?
I believe the goal that caused the stoppage would still count but I’m not 100% certain here.
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phillymantis915 Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:45 PM
I like to think of us as the public hair that occasionally gets caught in the back of your throat after going down on a woman.
The gin in your martini
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Babar 2.0 Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:46 PM
I’m getting pretty grouchy lately so I may just unleash a storm of insults to everyone here.
Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you’re cool, and fuck you, I’m out!
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YYSA Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:46 PM
Shouldn’t you be preparing for the Haboob season.
I will stop washing my truck here in the near future.
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SenyorMadre Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:47 PM
I don’t watch hockey…if the next stoppage is a goal (even by the other team)…it rolls back to the previous goal, and the 2nd goal is wiped away?
Yes.
baseball, really any sports, would be even more awesome if there was a way to lose runs/points either by doing something bad or the opponent doing something
/still working through the details
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squawkbox Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Should I get popcorn and pull up a chair?
Nah. I’m really not very good at it. I’m actually a really nice guy at the core.
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squawkbox Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
after going down on a woman
Oh yeah … heard this the other day ….
A radio personality here went through a throat cancer thing – took him a while to get back 100%. Guess what he blamed it on …
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ms621 Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Nah. I’m really not very good at it. I’m actually a really nice guy at the core.
Ok, if you plan to let loose with a string of invective, please hold off for an hour. I’m about to leave for lunch and I wouldn’t want to miss the show.
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molemaninthemorning Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:51 PM
I believe the goal that caused the stoppage would still count but I’m not 100% certain here.
Don’t think so but I might be reading the rules wrong.
When a team scores an apparent goal that is not seen by the onice officials and play continues, the play shall be reviewed by the
Video Goal Judge at the next stoppage of play. If the goal is confirmed
by video review, the clock is re-set to the time the goal was scored. If
the goal is not confirmed by video review, no adjustment is required to
the clock time.
Only one goal can be awarded at any stoppage of play
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spencer096 Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:52 PM
lets just go by the honor system.
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SouvenirCity Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Nah. You’re right mole. I wasn’t sure of the ruling anyways. I actually don’t like how that plays out but that’s the rule. You read it right.
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scripty Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Baseball is slow and not good for the young short attention span generation.
So let’s add replay.
/but seriously reduce half-inning and inning change commercials.
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molemaninthemorning Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:57 PM
Nah. You’re right mole. I wasn’t sure of the ruling anyways. I actually don’t like how that plays out but that’s the rule. You read it right.
I had to look it up a few seasons ago because the Penguins had a game where like five minutes ran before the next stoppage and the goal was good (against them I think). It was ridiculous.
Best part of the rule though?
Team A has an apparent good goal missed on the ice.
Play continues.
Team B scores.
Stoppage causes the review of Team A’s apparent goal.
Team A’s goal is deemed to have been scored illegally.
Both goals are waived off.
PROFIT
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SenyorMadre Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:58 PM
/but seriously reduce half-inning and inning change commercials.
$urvey $ay$ No
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Jason Lisk Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Nah. You’re right mole. I wasn’t sure of the ruling anyways. I actually don’t like how that plays out but that’s the rule. You read it right.
I actually think that’s ambiguous. Has it come up in an actual game? The part about “only one goal may be awarded during any stoppage of play” could instead mean that if there are two questionable plays where no goal was called, you only look at the first if it was a goal.
Is a goal being scored non-controversially considered “a goal awarded during a stoppage of play”?
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molemaninthemorning Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 12:59 PM
/but seriously reduce half-inning and inning change commercials.
Insurance risk for the league. Causes all the fat fuck players to have to get out to the field quicker, increased likelihood of heart attacks.
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kaiserwilhelmreems Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:00 PM
I like to think of us as the public hair that occasionally gets caught in the back of your throat after going down on a woman.
no hairy chicks
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Watsonian Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:00 PM
/but seriously reduce half-inning and inning change commercials.
Enforce the rules that state a pitcher only has 20 seconds between pitches and that batters are not allowed to leave the batter’s box once an at bat has begun.
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SouvenirCity Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:00 PM
PROFIT
That’s how I would define the trade for Voukun and subsequent 2 year deal. Great insurance policy on MAF should he fall off a cliff and a nice back-up for 20 starts a year.
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SouvenirCity Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:03 PM
Is a goal being scored non-controversially considered “a goal awarded during a stoppage of play”?
You two are the lawyers. I’ll let you decipher the language that was collectively bargained and put into a binding contract. I’d side with mole’s interpretation if pushed. I would prefer the goal that was scored after the controversial play to still be valid though.
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SenyorMadre Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:03 PM
I like to think of us as the public hair that occasionally gets caught in the back of your throat after going down on a woman.
between teeth, on tongue, sure. back of throat? ‘eating out’ is not to be taken literallly, my good men
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molemaninthemorning Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:04 PM
Is a goal being scored non-controversially considered “a goal awarded during a stoppage of play”?
Yes. They roll it back no matter what. If there was supposed to be a stoppage of play anything that happens after it gets wiped out, doesn’t matter who scores. It’s kind of crazy, but it’s also kind of pure.
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dikembemutomballs Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:10 PM
Seeing as baseball is the slowest game on earth Rosensquirrel’s pace of game concerns are ring hollow.
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dikembemutomballs Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:11 PM
*are ringing
I’m a moron.
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scripty Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:13 PM
$urvey $ay$ No
Inning sponsorship5 and such would make up for it. Soccer does this in the rest of the world.
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Ty_Webb Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:14 PM
Enforce the rules that state a pitcher only has 20 seconds between pitches and that batters are not allowed to leave the batter’s box once an at bat has begun.
what did Nomaaaaah do to you?
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Ty_Webb Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:15 PM
wow, f’d that up good
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phillymantis915 Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:16 PM
Seeing as baseball is the slowest game on earth Rosensquirrel’s pace of game concerns are ring hollow.
NFL – 5 second play…40 seconds between plays…5 second play. 90 second TV timeout
Why does it take 40 minutes to play 8 minutes of game time in the NBA?
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St. Bear Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:17 PM
Enforce the rules that state a pitcher only has 20 seconds between pitches and that batters are not allowed to leave the batter’s box once an at bat has begun.
what did Nomaaaaah do to you?
In Physics class in HS, we watched a video about reaction time, and it mentioned Nomar (remember this was 1999) in support of an experiment that showed that a longer wait between repetitions can improve reaction time drastically.
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njensen79 Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:17 PM
Baseball doesn’t need replay as much as it needs to evaluate the umpires that are put on the field. Baseball needs to go back and get better umpires who put themselves in situations to make the call. They need guys who don’t make themselves the star as it seems to be getting to.
The same people who say that baseball is too slow, seem to be the same ones advocating for this instant replay. While they advocate for it, I have yet to hear a reasonable plan on what exactly should be replayed, and how it should be done. To me, unless you can come up with a solid plan on what should be reviewed, please shut up.
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SenyorMadre Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:19 PM
Inning sponsorship5 and such would make up for it. Soccer does this in the rest of the world.
yep, right after they put sponsors on unis, you know, like soccer does in the rest of the world
/murica, fuck yeah
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SenyorMadre Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Seeing as baseball is the slowest game on earth Rosensquirrel’s pace of game concerns are ring hollow.
NFL – 5 second play…40 seconds between plays…5 second play. 90 second TV timeout
Why does it take 40 minutes to play 8 minutes of game time in the NBA?
the main diff is that those sports have time limits, while baseball could theoretically go on forever…an at-bat, an inning, a game
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MP Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:22 PM
sponsors on unis
This is coming.
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Jason McIntyre Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:23 PM
We are the gum on the bottom of the shoe around here. We make up a tiny portion of the page hits. We are, to some of the folks who run this place, the dried up piece of toothpaste that gets stuck to the inside corner of your mouth after you brush your teeth.
you’re being way too hard on yourself. Your anger (not you, specifically) provides some humor (to me, at least), and your clicks/comments help the bottom line around here.
Everybody wins!
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molemaninthemorning Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:25 PM
In Physics class in HS, we watched a video about reaction time, and it mentioned Nomar (remember this was 1999) in support of an experiment that showed that a longer wait between repetitions can improve reaction time drastically.
And causes you to marry a woman that looks like a man.
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Ben80123 Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:28 PM
I hope that, for his own sake, TBL doesn’t try to engage Jorge Arangure – or any other writer / media personality who argues with facts – about any subject involving baseball again.
The clown suit Arangure stitched the other day on Twitter for the EIC was a bit embarrassing. Surprised those tweets haven’t since been deleted.
Come on now, you can’t post that without putting some samples in here. You know, for those of us that have pointed out stuff like that and been blocked.
/End Cluelessness
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SenyorMadre Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 1:28 PM
This is coming.
winter
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illformula Says:
June 6th, 2012 at 2:01 PM
Yes, the NBA and NFL have done so. Baseball can, too. The sport needs instant replay.
since when is comparing two timed sports comparable to one that is not?
the NFL was for damn sure slowed down. replay review, regardless of a “timed enforcement,” that never previously existed surely slows down the game from its pre-replay pace. but the NFL is too big for anyone to really care about rule enforcement. that is, until nazi goodell finally pussifies the sport out of its competitive nature.
baseball has replay now. it also has the strongest player union in professional sports. selig isn’t making this more difficult than it needs to be; it’s really THAT difficult (e.g. introducing drug tests).