Roundup: Bath Salts Back in the News, Nicklas Lidstrom Retires, Mario Balotelli Ready to Kill
Christina Milian … this is Michael Buble’s wife … woman arrested for trying to sneak drugs into jail … a candle that smells like a keg … little boy gives away trip to Disney to family of a fallen solider … Taco Bell’s Mountain Dew-inspired breakfast beverage … Mark Zuckerberg, bad tipper … DirecTV’s description of Fast Five … another shooting in Seattle … James Franco’s take on Girls … Kathie Lee Gifford was impressed by Martin Short’s relationship with his dead wife … Bloomberg wants to ban giants sodas … porn star wanted for murder, possibly mailing body parts to politicians … interview with Alex Trebek … drunk college student wanders into mansion, gets shot …
Nicklas Lidstrom will announce his retirement today.[SI]
A year ago, the Devil’s coach didn’t have a job. Now he’s in the Stanley Cup. [Winnipeg Free Press]
The Miami cannibal was on bath salts. [NYDN]
The Pro Bowl is returning to Hawaii. *shrugs* [NFL]
A story about John Rocker. [Jeff Pearlman]
Tips you need to know about grilling. [Esquire]
The only person who doesn’t think Anthony Davis is a lock for the top pick in the draft is Anthony Davis. [Basketball Jones]
The many faces of James Harden. [Grantland]
Jonathan’s Lucroy’s wife getting death threats over some luggage. [Brew Beat]
Georgia Tech really wants to recruit Charles Mack. They sent him 52 letters. In a single day. [Atlanta Journal-Constitution]
Mario Balotelli will “kill” anyone who throws a banana at him. [Reuters]
Marcus Jordan pays for porn stars. [Larry Brown Sports]
This is an insanely elaborate marriage proposal.
The Golf Boys performed live. [via @ShaneBacon]
The Dark Knight Rises trailer… reenacted by hot dogs.
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May 31st, 2012 at 8:36 AM
Kings roll, Celtics hosed. Buble wins again. Jail Zuckerberg.
/God Speed St. Nick
May 31st, 2012 at 8:40 AM
from the article:
when a condom hidden in a body cavity broke and pills fell to the holding cell floor.
was arrested for possession of 90 Lyrica, 37 Adderall, 50 Valium, 43 trazadone, 10 Ambien and 26 OxyContin pills and four bags of heroin
damn, someone just hollowed this lady out before she got sent up river.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:41 AM
Buble outkicked his coverage
May 31st, 2012 at 8:42 AM
Buble gets a lot of shit for no reason. He’s popular as fuck, actually has talent, is damn funny on SNL and comes home to that stunner every night. If that’s what it means to be a “douche” then sign me the fuck up.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:43 AM
what a hipster loser. I hope she said no.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:43 AM
Not when you have enough $ that you can buy the best coverage team available.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:44 AM
I don’t know, seems like he kind of earned this one.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:45 AM
/Team Buble
May 31st, 2012 at 8:46 AM
Shaun White agrees.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:46 AM
Ah, the time they will have recounting this video when they are separately speaking to divorce attorneys in 5 years.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:47 AM
oh my god these people need to be shot. every single one of them.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:47 AM
Wow.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:48 AM
GOD DAMN DUDE. nicely done.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:48 AM
That guy told looks like he owns one of these.
Anyone else think these elaborate marriage proposals are totally bogus?
May 31st, 2012 at 8:48 AM
Kathie Lee Gifford is an idiot.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:50 AM
why don’t you just release a manual on how us non-elite NY’ers should live our lives? make it much easier that way. beats having to outlaw everything you don’t like, mike…just cuts out the middle step.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:50 AM
if that’s what it takes to get her to say “yes” i hate to see what she wants for a push gift.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:50 AM
/sniffles
May 31st, 2012 at 8:50 AM
i think marriage proposals like that are more damning to the sanctity of marriage than two dudes or chicks getting married.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:51 AM
Kathie Lee Gifford is an idiot.
i must have flipped through 5 different radio stations on my AM drive and ALL of them were talking about this. i wanted to jerk the wheel left.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:51 AM
Good, fuck the high road mow these cunts down.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:52 AM
now, lets just think about this for a second…you could’ve just…you know…put in a cd instead. no need for suicide.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:52 AM
She gets paid to drink wine on live TV with that Hoda lady. She’s brilliant.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:53 AM
“But there has never, ever, in the history of sports, ever been anybody like Nick Lidstrom.”
100% true. Bobby Orr may have more Norris trophies but Nick Lidstrom is the greatest defenseman in the history of hockey.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:54 AM
Can’t he be jailed for that type of violent rhetoric over in Europe?
May 31st, 2012 at 8:54 AM
now, lets just think about this for a second…you could’ve just…you know…put in a cd instead. no need for suicide.
i already packed my CD binders for the upcoming move and i can’t listen to Animals again for at least a week.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:54 AM
Yep.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:54 AM
I’m happy for him, but sad for myself. One of the best ever.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:55 AM
then you should’ve just ended it.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:56 AM
This is an insanely elaborate marriage proposal.
oh my god these people need to be shot. every single one of them.
Is this the first you guys are seeing of this? Its been all over the news since last Saturday or Sunday. I’ve had that goddam song stuck in my head for 5 days and I want it to go away! Quick, where’s CJ to sing some “Let’s Go To The Mall?”
May 31st, 2012 at 8:56 AM
then you should’ve just ended it.
did the equivalent… turned on M&M
May 31st, 2012 at 8:57 AM
No way. He’s a crooner and he’s cute. I’d say him marrying anyone less attractive than her would be him not living up to his potential.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:58 AM
that miami cannibal story freaks me out.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:58 AM
i actually agree with him on that, never thought i would.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:59 AM
I had never heard of using bath salts to get high before this cat started eating faces. I would have never thought to snort bath salts. That has to be terrible for you.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:59 AM
dude’s lost 25% of his worth in under two weeks. he’s probably saving money.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:59 AM
yep. pretty much how I felt when Stevie Y walked away. Hard to believe I barely had pubes when Lidstrom started playing.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:59 AM
I’ll say this to add to your comment: I’ve never met a woman that didn’t like Buble….. never
May 31st, 2012 at 9:00 AM
4th photo…wow. Good for Buble.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:00 AM
Buble outkicked his coverage
No way. He’s a crooner and he’s cute. I’d say him marrying anyone less attractive than her would be him not living up to his potential.
Yea I don’t get the outkicked his coverage for every guy that is married to a hot girl. Someone has to marry the hot chicks right? And maybe she’s JLH psycho and he hates going home at night? Maybe she outkicked her coverage?
/mind blown
May 31st, 2012 at 9:01 AM
dude, it ain’t Epsom salt
May 31st, 2012 at 9:01 AM
Holy shit. That drunk chick needed to be shot. Busting in on some old couple’s bedroom?
May 31st, 2012 at 9:01 AM
Who the fuck is Michael Buble?
May 31st, 2012 at 9:01 AM
Marcus Jordan seems like a pretty smart guy. Michael will be hiring him as Assistant GM any day now.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:01 AM
OK, I’m just going to be honest here. I legitimately thought when people were on bath salts they were really going to Ulta or Sephora, buying bath salts and snorting them to get high. Also, where the fuck do people come up with these stupid names for drugs?
May 31st, 2012 at 9:02 AM
this is Michael Buble’s wife
WoW
Kathie Lee is an idiot
May 31st, 2012 at 9:03 AM
Except for the fact that she was asking Martin Short about how things were going with him and his dead wife.
/research
May 31st, 2012 at 9:03 AM
Maybe the service sucked? Last time I checked, getting a tip as a waiter is not a birthright granted to all wait staff employees.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:03 AM
Is this where we discuss the conspiracy narrative?
May 31st, 2012 at 9:03 AM
apparently the same place Beyonce and Jay-Z went for a baby name.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:03 AM
pop jazz singer.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:04 AM
careful, that’s one potent debate you’re opening up here.
this could go to 300 comments if this grenade goes off.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:04 AM
If this one is fake, the girl who is getting engaged is perhaps the best actor alive. She seems genuinely floored. I can’t hate on the proposal. If you’re going tacky, go balls out and do it well. It’s the crappy videos that are ridiculous.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:05 AM
I don’t know about bogus, I just think it is people thinking they are doing some outrageously funny or creative, when in actuality they just look stupid. but they also seem kind of attention starved, and they are getting what they want, so, mission accomplished I guess.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:05 AM
Ew.
Which retirement makes you sadder, Stevie or Lidstrom? I’d probably go with Stevie. Also, who gets the C? Datsyuk? Zetterberg?
May 31st, 2012 at 9:06 AM
OK, I’m just going to be honest here. I legitimately thought when people were on bath salts they were really going to Ulta or Sephora, buying bath salts and snorting them to get high
i thought the exact same thing.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:06 AM
kaiser – i waited tables through high school and some in college, and i’d be more than happy to have that conversation.
/worked at a seafood joint, and yes, those customers stiffed people all the fucking time
May 31st, 2012 at 9:06 AM
Part owner of Hamm and Buble.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:06 AM
JMorris’d?
May 31st, 2012 at 9:06 AM
Sometimes you have to ask tough questions. Have you seen Clifford? Martin Short was talking to a plastic dinosaur named Stefan.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:07 AM
I bet those who use the drugs love the names. Can you imagine how many times you’d just repeat the name “Purple Rain” over and over? Hell, you’d play the song on a loop the entire time you were high.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:08 AM
Glad I was at the Red Hot Chili Peppers concert last night instead of having to watch that game. RHCP was pretty damn good I might add.
/awaits the music nazi’s
May 31st, 2012 at 9:08 AM
chuckled at the use of knickers. Love the Brits. I also have no idea who this Buble guy is.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:08 AM
St. Nick, cause Stevie was done. Nick can still play. Z will get the C.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:08 AM
Free Press said that Zetterberg is expected to receive it.
Stevie was definitely harder to swallow, since he was my favorite athlete as a kid. But Lidstrom will be missed more as far as impact to the team.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:08 AM
Wow.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:08 AM
Would that be before or after you strip naked, climb a flagpole and jump into oncoming traffic?
May 31st, 2012 at 9:08 AM
Fuck it:
/launches grenade into school bus
I don’t think I’ve ever flat-out not tipped a waiter in my life, but it most certainly depends on the service. You do a shit job and feel entitled to a tip? You’ll get the bare minimum. You do a great job, pay attention, and act personable? You get way above the standard.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:09 AM
OK, I’m just going to be honest here. I legitimately thought when people were on bath salts they were really going to Ulta or Sephora, buying bath salts and snorting them to get high
i thought the exact same thing.
Me too, was picturing Jesse Pinkman robbing a Bath and Body Works
May 31st, 2012 at 9:09 AM
Tip is included in everything in Europe, so while Zuckerberg has the coin, tipping is generally not something you do in Europe unless the server is above and beyond (which they rarely are). The servers there make more per/hour but get less in tips than American servers.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:09 AM
Marcus Jordan seems like a pretty smart guy. Michael will be hiring him as Assistant GM any day now.
player coach brah
May 31st, 2012 at 9:10 AM
From the linked article, that doesn’t sound like the case.
It could be that Zuckerburg is clueless on these things.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:10 AM
i agree with you, tips aren’t guaranteed and i hate wait staff that whine about not getting tips
May 31st, 2012 at 9:10 AM
One of my favorite things in The Wire was the names they came up with for heroin.
My favorite was WMD, “cuz that shit’s the bomb.”
May 31st, 2012 at 9:10 AM
Before, obviously. Purple Rain is the chill music you listen to right before face hunting.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:10 AM
I can’t believe they’ll give Z the C when they were willing to trade him last season.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:10 AM
In my experience, whether or not the tip is included depends on where you go.
It’s usually listed on the bill.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:11 AM
It’s Europe. The service charge is typically included into the price you pay.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:12 AM
then taking a long bubble bath to get high.
re-watching breaking bad from the beginning. interesting to see it now after the season 4 finale.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:12 AM
News to me. Link?
May 31st, 2012 at 9:12 AM
Holy shit. This is seriously the name of the law? God bless politicians.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:13 AM
re-watching breaking bad from the beginning. interesting to see it now after the season 4 finale.
In a good way or bad way?
May 31st, 2012 at 9:13 AM
Anyone here a pro at smoking? Curious to know what brand/kind of smoker you like to use.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:13 AM
Also, may I just take the time to say Fuck New Jersey, and fuck the Devils.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:14 AM
All of this.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:14 AM
Good, of course. There’s no other way with the best show on TV.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:14 AM
Italy and France have mastered this.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:14 AM
Can’t believe TBL didn’t include the Rex Ryan interview at the SCF.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:14 AM
Most likely while they are high as a kite on said drugs.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:15 AM
I am sure the movie theaters are going to be thrilled about this.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:15 AM
Ehhhhhhhh….
/decides not to fuck with it
May 31st, 2012 at 9:16 AM
I don’t about everyone else, but I find all lip-dubs cringe inducing.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:17 AM
This is an insanely elaborate marriage proposal.
Why do you morons even click play on these things?
I’m surrounded by idiots.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:17 AM
THIS!
May 31st, 2012 at 9:17 AM
This is an insanely elaborate marriage proposal.
Way over the top and stupid.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:18 AM
You absolutely can’t wrong with the Char-Griller offset. Less than $200 and found at Lowes, etc. I have two and they are awesome. Stacking method or racks, you can go 20+ racks of ribs, 50+lbs of shoulder, etc. Easy to control temp, inexpensive, and if you’re a dork, there are mods you can do. I put on new axles and pneumatic tires.
/nods at payaso
May 31st, 2012 at 9:18 AM
And, btw, the reason the drugs are called “bath salts” is because manufacturers have actually attempted to market them this way in order to skirt the obvious legal ramifications. Up until about a year ago, in the back of some magazines, you’d see ads for bath salts, with the wink wink disclaimer “not for human consumption”. The same is true of “plant food”.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:18 AM
Jealous. Between the soccer match, the Mets blowing it, the NHL OT and the NBA ref outrage, my twitter feed was like that scene in 2001 when the dude travels through space and time.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:18 AM
I want to keep looking at Buble’s wife and also do a Google image search of her. But I’m at work.
/looks longingly into the horizon
May 31st, 2012 at 9:19 AM
yeah, different, but good. you see the interactions between Jesse and Walt differently knowing how far Walt will go to manipulate Jesse to his cause.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:20 AM
Jon Hamm..yum!
May 31st, 2012 at 9:20 AM
Never heard of Buble or Lindstron, but I wish them well in their endeavors.
/Also, Char-Griller 4 Lyfe
May 31st, 2012 at 9:20 AM
No one reads the author line.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:20 AM
^^^all of this
May 31st, 2012 at 9:20 AM
“Hard to believe I barely had pubes when Lidstrom started playing.”
As in you were just getting into manscaping or you were 8 years old?
/early developed
May 31st, 2012 at 9:20 AM
Anyone here a pro at smoking? Curious to know what brand/kind of smoker you like to use.
big green egg and a indirect barrel smoker.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:22 AM
I just did a quick search, and it seems there’s nothing that would get you in trouble at work.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:23 AM
On the train this morning, I was reading SI, and came across this gem from a short interview with George R.R, Martin, who is apparently a huge Jets fan:
If you had to bet, which will come first: your next book, or the Jets’ next Super Bowl win?
Probably my next book.
You sound defeated.
I have to have the next book out in less than five years. And I think the Jets have taken a step back
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1199031/1/index.htm
May 31st, 2012 at 9:23 AM
Should tip at least 15% unless the server insults you to your face.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:23 AM
It’s not the IT guys I’m worried about. It’s my boss’ office across the hallway. She’s sneaky.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:24 AM
George R.R. Martin is going to die before he finishes Game of Thrones. He’s old and fat.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:24 AM
If that were the case, I’d be about 50K richer right now.
/fuck you, old crusty seniors and your cheap-ass tipping!
May 31st, 2012 at 9:24 AM
I will have a Big Green Egg at some point. Everyone I know who has one (3-4 people) absolutely rave about them. They’re just damn expensive.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:25 AM
“Maybe the service sucked? Last time I checked, getting a tip as a waiter is not a birthright granted to all wait staff employees.”
Worked as a waiter throughout college, at different levels of establishments (mid range to high end). Tipping is a cultural thing. Some cultures think a $2 tip is all that is required not matter the tab. Those people are asshole ingnorant types. They are typically old or black (no offense).
If you don’t leave a good tip, the waiter should know the reason because you should have requested a conference with the manager to discuss your displeasure. If you’re too chicken shit to let the manager know the service sucked, you need to leave a minimum 15% tip.
Tipping isn’t optional. It’s part of the cost of eating out. If you can’t afford it, you can’t afford to be eating out.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:25 AM
This.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:25 AM
I just did a quick search, and it seems there’s nothing that would get you in trouble at work.
Lots of bikini shots with safe search off. Nothing more.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:27 AM
I will have a Big Green Egg at some point. Everyone I know who has one (3-4 people) absolutely rave about them. They’re just damn expensive.
i put off buying one because of the price tag, but after blowing through 3 home depot specials in 5 years, i pulled the trigger. yep, its worth it. it can be a precise smoker or grill a steak at 850. and its supposed to last 20 years.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:27 AM
This is how I do it. I tip 20% minimum probably 99% of the time. I rarely have flat out bad servers, though.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:28 AM
I was at a restaurant the other day with two other people. We split the bill into two – my half and their half. The waitress brings the checks back and there’s an 18 percent gratuity added with a typed note at the bottom of the check that says that’s what they do when checks are asked to be split. I was pissed. At least a heads up from the waitress would’ve been nice. She didn’t get a tip on that tip line.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:28 AM
that’s a hell of a deal. I saw the big green egg mentioned. they are the shit if you can afford them.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:28 AM
They are typically old or black (no offense).
Jesus! Lights the SROD signal.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:29 AM
The Big Green Egg is supposedly fantastic, but I just cannot get over the price.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:29 AM
it is optional, unless it’s included in the total and you’re told before ordering that gratuities are included in the final cost.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:29 AM
Thanks Rex for #96.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:29 AM
i agree with you, tips aren’t guaranteed and i hate wait staff that whine about not getting tips
they are implicitly guaranteed, which is why you can pay waitstaff below minimum wage.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:29 AM
That’s a stupid name.
/playoffs, baby!
May 31st, 2012 at 9:30 AM
That’s a fantastic quote.
But I have a bit to add to it that people probably won’t like… he’s also a Giants fan. Cheers for both teams. Which given the way his stories unfold sort of makes sense.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:30 AM
Easy tiger. Pretty sure few people do this. It would have to be a catastrophe for me to want to speak with the manager.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:30 AM
Yeah servers make between two and three bucks an hour.
If you don’t tip, stay the fuck in.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:31 AM
If you’re an asshole, yes.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:32 AM
My step brother has over $1,100 invested into his and he got the small one. The rig with the table next to it and some other tools and such are also really expensive.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:32 AM
I think watching paint dry is more exciting than having a discussion about tipping.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:32 AM
Worked as a waiter throughout college, at different levels of establishments (mid range to high end). Tipping is a cultural thing. Some cultures think a $2 tip is all that is required not matter the tab. Those people are asshole ingnorant types. They are typically old or black (no offense).
If you don’t leave a good tip, the waiter should know the reason because you should have requested a conference with the manager to discuss your displeasure. If you’re too chicken shit to let the manager know the service sucked, you need to leave a minimum 15% tip.
Tipping isn’t optional. It’s part of the cost of eating out. If you can’t afford it, you can’t afford to be eating out.
What he said
May 31st, 2012 at 9:33 AM
My parents have two Big Green Eggs (my stepdad has at last count 23 grills/smokers), you cannot beat them.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:33 AM
And, btw, the reason the drugs are called “bath salts” is because manufacturers have actually attempted to market them this way in order to skirt the obvious legal ramifications. Up until about a year ago, in the back of some magazines, you’d see ads for bath salts, with the wink wink disclaimer “not for human consumption”. The same is true of “plant food”.
K2 and Bath Salts have been sold in midtown Kansas City convenience marts for years. Then the state banned K2. Then there was, no shit, K3. Then the state banned that. Now there is something else People wanting to get high will always have someone providing it for them.
/Obligatory’d legalize weed and this shit won’t be an issue.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:33 AM
This!
May 31st, 2012 at 9:33 AM
Mr. Pink disagrees.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:33 AM
I’m fine with 18 percent gratuity added for parties of six or eight or more. I get that. But adding 18 percent simply because I asked our late lunch bill to be split into two, and not telling me about it until you hand me the check? Ridiculous.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:33 AM
re: tipping in Europe…
When my family went to Ireland years ago, the waiters there were NOT expecting a tip. They thought my dad was one of the grandest people. They tried to refuse the money, but pops gave them the stern, “Hey, take the money, man.”
May 31st, 2012 at 9:33 AM
So she’s a sidler.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:33 AM
Tipping isn’t optional. It’s part of the cost of eating out. If you can’t afford it, you can’t afford to be eating out.
If you wait on me and you’re incompetent or a dick, you just made it optional. I usually tip 20% for normal service so it’s not like I’m a cheapass.
And I shouldn’t have to go get a manager to express my opintion of the service. A 5% tip should send the appropriate message that a server sucks at his/her job.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:33 AM
NSFW (language)
my bad.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:33 AM
Yeah, that’s bullshit.
She should have said something. I don’t like to be surprised, nor do I like being presumed to be a cheapskate.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:33 AM
Or go someplace without table service. America is a wonderful place with any different options for everybody.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:33 AM
that is the biggest load of shit I have ever read. I worked for 5 years as a waiter, and only one time in my life have I not tipped and that was because the fuck-up hippie waiter blew us off several times and then bullshitted about our food and drinks.
sure, tipping is part of the cost of eating out, but if you don’t give a shit about giving me even halfway decent service, there is no fucking way I should just be expected to leave a tip. waiter know if they do a shit job, if you get stiffed, you know the reason, I would say 90% of the time, it’s not because the person you waited on is a cheap ass, although I know those do exist.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:34 AM
What’s the consensus here on gas vs charcoal grills? I’m shopping for 1, and I’ve always used gas.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:34 AM
I love that scene.
/For the birds
May 31st, 2012 at 9:34 AM
There are plans for building the table online, but yeah, the various other pieces that are very helpful cost a fortune.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:34 AM
Gratuity is built into the prices in most places in Europe.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:34 AM
if you want guaranteed money for a job done, find a job that pays you that a salary or higher hourly wage.
i tip between 20-30% for above average to really good service, 10-15% for bad to average. i’ve left no tip on a couple occasions where the service was a complete catastrophe.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:34 AM
what did the leper say to the prostitute?
here’s your tip.
/tip talk
May 31st, 2012 at 9:36 AM
No tips in Italy, and don’t expect to get “American” style service either. You’re there for a few hours, whether you like it or not.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:36 AM
I don’t think charcoal adds a whole lot. If you want to do something that’s actually going to add flavor, use some wood chips.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:36 AM
If you go the Chargriller route, I def recommend beefing up the wheels if you move it much. I move mine all over at the lake place depending on where we are, what we’re doing, and the wind conditions. Makes it a breeze.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:36 AM
WOW I CANNOT BELIEVE NOBODY HAS EVER THOUGHT OF THIS
May 31st, 2012 at 9:36 AM
Charcoal tastes better, but it takes a little more time each session. I’m lazy and go gas, but I understand I’m giving up a bit of flavor that I’ll have to make up for later.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:37 AM
What’s the consensus here on gas vs charcoal grills? I’m shopping for 1, and I’ve always used gas.
gas for efficiency, charcoal for flavor.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:37 AM
Cook Out 4 Life!
/40 milkshakes
May 31st, 2012 at 9:37 AM
Convenience vs taste.
Don’t make you’re life harder than it already is.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:37 AM
Although, if (ok when) I end up getting a ceramic grill, I think I’m going to go this route. I like the oval shape. Actual indirect heating.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:37 AM
Peanut shells.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:38 AM
/NSFW
This is still the best scene of Tarantino’s career.
/NSFW
May 31st, 2012 at 9:39 AM
If you sat down at a table and someone brought you food and drink and then cleaned up after you… you tip them. Period.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:39 AM
charcoal for smaller groups when cooking 1-2 different food types on the grill. trying more than that and it’s a lot of effort to keep the grill hot enough to cook everything evenly in a reasonable amount of time.
gas for anything else.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:39 AM
say what?!
May 31st, 2012 at 9:39 AM
I just added my seventh, albeit split between two places.
/kicks dirt
May 31st, 2012 at 9:39 AM
What’s the consensus here on gas vs charcoal grills? I’m shopping for 1, and I’ve always used gas.
I have the Weber charcoal with the gas ignition, its fantastic. Highly recommend it.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:40 AM
I will have a Big Green Egg at some point. Everyone I know who has one (3-4 people) absolutely rave about them. They’re just damn expensive.
The small egg is really good for grilling. You want a steak seared at 700 degrees, you can do it.
It has limited surface area for smoking. I’ve done two boston butts at one time and it was maxed.
I also prefer the offset smokers – you really have much more control than with a vertical setup and usually more smoking surface area.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:40 AM
gas for efficiency, charcoal for flavor.
I might look to get this one.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:40 AM
which is why wait staffs in FL get burned.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:41 AM
Convenience vs taste. Bear
And taste wins every time. It isn’t that time consuming to use charcoal. Make a mound, put some newspaper under it, and light. You don’t even need to use lighter fluid. Have a beer while the coals get hot and then get at it.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:41 AM
Here’s the problem with this, though (and I’m with you that talking to the manager is absurd unless there is a HUGE issue): a lot of people are just cheap dicks and/or have no concept of what to expect from a waiter. Tipping 5 percent, to a waiter, doesn’t send a message that his or her service sucks. It just makes them think you’re a cheap asshole who shouldn’t be eating out.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:42 AM
Chimney starter FTW!
May 31st, 2012 at 9:42 AM
Big Green Egg has one of the worst websites I’ve ever seen for a major product. Holy shit.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:43 AM
Charcoal is the way to go for sure. Adds flavor but don’t use lighter fluid buy a chimney.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:43 AM
Banning giant sugary drinks won’t do anything… folks will just sneak their own in or buy multiple drinks. Bloomberg’s heart is in the right place, but the trick lies in education and action by people, not restricting their abilities.
Oh, and stop supporting the corn lobby by subsidizing HFCS and ethanol.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:43 AM
What’s the consensus here on gas vs charcoal grills? I’m shopping for 1, and I’ve always used gas.
I previously used gas all of the time b/c of convenience/speed.
Now I use nothing but charcoal with a chimney starter - the chimney will get your coals ready in < 15 without lighter fluid.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:43 AM
And please, do yourselves a favor and buy the Weber chimney. It’s worth every penny.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:43 AM
those are great, and an easy way to singe off all your arm hair if you aren’t careful emptying it.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:43 AM
I also prefer the offset smokers – you really have much more control than with a vertical setup and usually more smoking surface area.
I have an offset. Love it. Versatile. It can play almost any position on the floor.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:44 AM
It actually reminds me a little of this website, with the scrolling large pictures.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:44 AM
Well at least he has good taste. Not that I am familiar with her work.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:44 AM
I can’t remember the last time I bought a 16 ounce Gatorade at a convenience store and the cashier didn’t tell me that I could get two for only fifty cents more.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:44 AM
Ready to go in a few minutes.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:45 AM
yeah, and from what I can remember NC has a law that makes the employer comp. your wages to bring them up to minimum wage if you claim less per hour in tips than what would have offset your wages to make minimum wage. At least that was the case 13 years ago. If we had a bad night, I would always claim the actual and let the employer comp the rest. Sometimes he would imply that we needed to be claiming more (so as to help his cause and wallet), but he knew that was illegal.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:45 AM
if it isn’t optional, remove the tip line from the bill and build it into the cost of the food/drink. I did 2 years in the food service industry in college. I never once felt entitled to a tip, but I always worked my ass off to hopefully get one.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:45 AM
Although, if (ok when) I end up getting a ceramic grill, I think I’m going to go this route. I like the oval shape. Actual indirect heating.
Sooo expensive.
The Primo Oval XL will run you around $1,100 for the basic grill. If you want the additional cooking grates and a nice cart to put it in you can be looking at as much as $2,000 for a fully decked out grill.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:45 AM
Chimney starter FTW!
All my friends have those. I’ve never felt the need, but I’m rarely in a hurry.
Also, never use the pre-treated charcoal. That’ll give you ass cancer.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:46 AM
Starting today, I am taking singing lessons.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:46 AM
I use welders’ gloves.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:47 AM
Still the case as of a year ago.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:47 AM
so, in the instance I mentioned above, where in the first hour that we sat at the table and we got one drink and our order taken, and then sat there for another hour while every single other table around us flipped at least once and we still didn’t get our food, I was supposed to leave a tip? fuck that.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:47 AM
those are great, and an easy way to singe off all your arm hair if you aren’t careful emptying it.
Go to Harbor Freight or Northern Tool and get welding gloves. Best investment ever. When smoking, I just grab handfuls of charcoal/wood and drop them right into the fire.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:47 AM
Gratuity is the worst. Typically, I would have given more than 18% (most of the time I’m with big groups, they put the A game servers on the table) and I always like to compensate for putting up with a large group, especially one that drinks a lot. But when you add your tip in, I’m not giving you any more.
Everyone should be a server at some point in their lives. Anyone who hasn’t been a server probably isn’t qualified to discuss the tip thing. I think you have a completely different opinion once you’ve been on the other side. I’m assuming the service is normal to above average. Shit waiters are excluded from that comment.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:47 AM
Tip one penny.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:47 AM
Charcoal…and never the Kingsford bullshit. Natural lump hardwood charcoal. Gas grilling is for tailgating, not your backyard.
/Team offset smoker
May 31st, 2012 at 9:48 AM
The Big Green Egg will have to wait until the next promotion. Four figures for a grill is a bit crazy, even with the long term benefits. And I have a nice grill now.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:48 AM
the food advertising lobbyists fight tooth and nail to prevent restriction of advertising these kinds of products to kids.
there will be a time when surgeon generals warning will be on sugary drinks and foods about risks of diabetes and heart disease, same way there are for cigarettes and alcohol.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:49 AM
I was with you until this. You don’t have to work for tips to understand their role.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:49 AM
/Obligatory’d legalize weed and this shit won’t be an issue.
THIS.
/doesn’t even smoke weed
Re: Tipping…again…
I start at 15% when the check comes. Even if the service and food is bad, I will tip 8%. Ive heard that some places require waiters to split tips or take taxes out on that. So by giving 8%, you’re just making sure the waiter isn’t actually LOSING money. 8% means they just aren’t EARNING money.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:50 AM
Spencer and other Bucknuts:
Phil Steele has Ohio State 11th. Here’s the preview.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:50 AM
what the fuck are you doing the charcoal if you’re getting ass cancer?
May 31st, 2012 at 9:50 AM
All servers should be cooks.
Few things are infuriating for a cook as someone tipping like crazy and asking for the compliments to goto the chef. That’s great. We don’t get any of that money though. Fuck servers.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:51 AM
I worked as a bartender/server for a catering company my first year of grad school. The first job I ever worked was a huge furniture convention where drunk people gave me huge tips. This skewed my view of the whole thing because after that it became a crapshoot on whether we would get one or not. It’s different than service in a restaurant but no less taxing on your soul. Sometimes we would cater a long wedding reception and get no tip at all, other times it was a private house party and we would get $100 per person.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:52 AM
Got mine at Harbor Freight as well, along with the larger wheels.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:52 AM
Thanks for letting us know. Whoever the fuck you are.
Also, firmly on Team Chimney Starter.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:52 AM
I hate the proliferation of tips and tip jars. They’re everywhere. Tips are for servers who make $2-3 per hour, not full-wage employees who spend 30 seconds making me a Blizzard.
I also don’t tip for $8 beers. That’s a fucking rip-off and gratuity is included, IMO.
Also, what is the appropriate tip for carryout orders? I don’t mind tipping a little something – they did take the time to package up my food – but the standard 15-20% seems too high.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:52 AM
Get this, thank me later
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=weber+performer+charcoal+grill&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=3845005739059369019&sa=X&ei=g3fHT8_-Humw6AH9v5HgDQ&ved=0CNkBEPMCMAA
May 31st, 2012 at 9:52 AM
Often you tip-out the bus boys and hosts. Anyone who starts at 0% should stay the fuck home.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:53 AM
And that’s a link fail.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:53 AM
Using that logic, I should be tipping McDonalds employees
May 31st, 2012 at 9:54 AM
I’ll do it every third one or something.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:54 AM
pretty sure I left what was left of the change, which was about fifteen cents. stupid ass hippy probably still didn’t get the point.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:54 AM
I think this is more effective than not tipping at all actually.
I think it definitely helps though. Nothing is worse than the lunch crowd at Olive Garden. Oh, sure, I’ll bring you your sixth bowl of soup and your fourth diet coke fatty, but since your meal is only $7.99, I’m really going to enjoy that dollar you leave me.
Yeah, I worked at Olive Garden for 3 months.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:55 AM
I don’t want the surgeon general to stop until my bottled water reminds me that I will die one day.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:55 AM
And by the way, does Christina Milian actually do anything anymore aside from being a crush of TBL’s? I think she had a song a few years ago but that’s the only work I’m familiar with.
/not that one has to actually *do* anything to be famous anymore
May 31st, 2012 at 9:55 AM
But did you ever achieve your dream of owning a Soup ‘r Crackers franchise?
May 31st, 2012 at 9:56 AM
Zero dollars.
Never in my life have I tipped for take-out. Normally tip 25-30% when eating out though.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:56 AM
I would have to think that Luby’s Diner lunch crowd is worse. The smell alone.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:57 AM
They are typically old or black (no offense).
Jesus! Lights the SROD signal.
Twenty percent is my standard, unless the wait staff is inattentive or wants to talk reality TV. Then, they get nothing. Nothing!
May 31st, 2012 at 9:57 AM
shit yeah. you get a lot more out of the charcoal, although I have found controlling the heat to be difficult at times.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:57 AM
I’m with you here. I admit I have a hard time tipping bartenders for every beer, no matter the price. I mean, it’s literally 15 seconds of work. Doing the math that bartender is earning $100/hour or more. I’ll tip every two or three unless the prices are just outrageous.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:58 AM
Then don’t buy?
(Realizes essentially his argument is my anti-Itunes/cable illegally stream everything argument. The difference being he’s ripping off working people who are bringing him beer and I’m ripping off the obsolete record industry?)
Until you can fucking download a beer you fucking tip.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:58 AM
So, what’s the deal with Kathie Lee? What’s she an idiot for today?
May 31st, 2012 at 9:58 AM
pours one out.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:58 AM
Gas, based strictly on convenience. I own a Weber Genesis, and it is absolutely phenominal. I’ve never cooked on anything better than this grill.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:59 AM
If it’s a mixed drink, I’ll tip well on the first one and keep coming back to that server so they pour them strong.
For beer, open a tab. Save yourself the time on tipping.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:00 AM
I give a buck to the dude who packs up my Shrimp Pad Thai.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:01 AM
I’ve never really figured out how to adjust the tip when the bartender does a buyback. Do you add the cost of the beer and calculate the tip, or just the check (assume it’s with a meal)?
May 31st, 2012 at 10:02 AM
I’m not talking about a nice microbrew or something that can semi-justify that price. I’m talking about a bottle of Bud Light at a baseball game or whatever, that cost them $0.75 and they’re marking up 1000%.
I’m in the Midwest so generally things are less expensive, so of course it’s relative.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:02 AM
You don’t have to work for tips to understand their role.
This all the way. I know how I should be treated without having experience is some low-paying gig.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:03 AM
Heck yea!
May 31st, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Lidstrom was amazing for a very long time. Dude was always money. But Stevie Y’s retirement was a bigger deal to me.
And I hit the bartender EVERY TIME with a tip…and expect incredible service, and maybe a few free “tastes” of what’s on tap and also any liquor I haven’t tried before (here’s looking at you, Blanton’s).
May 31st, 2012 at 10:08 AM
That golf boys song makes me want to eat someone’s face. Preferably Ben Crane. I hate that asshole.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:08 AM
All of this. You overtip at a non-chain bar each time on a mix drink your third of forth will usually be mostly liquor.
Yeah that’s a shitty situation whereby Crotch Mickeys (12 ounce liquor) are the only moral choice.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Funny tipping story…in my pre-kids days when I actually got to go out once in awhile a few of us went to Hooters and ran up a big tab. I always paid by credit card and left a nice tip, but I accidentally took my signed receipt with tip home with me so legally all they could do was charge my card for the amount of the tab.
The next morning I realized my error and called the restaurant to see what I could do. The manager talked to me like I was an alien or something. “Uh, you could stop by and drop off a few bucks,” he said, but he wouldn’t even be able to figure out who my server was. So that put the kibosh on that idea.
So much for trying to make it right.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:09 AM
It should be though.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Hot, likes to party, and can take a bullet like a champ. Hell yeah.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:12 AM
So, what’s the deal with Kathie Lee?
Nobody clicks the links.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:12 AM
I have done a similar thing several times but its usually because I forgot to close out at all and left my card at the place. Its my patented move for tabs over $200
May 31st, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Just got back from Russia, and a lot of places added a 10% service to the tab. I left more a couple of times, and the servers got totally confused and tried to give it back twice. I had to explain with hand gestures that it was for them.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:13 AM
No sarcasm here, what’s so great about that grill? I’m in the market for a new one. I just want simplicity without all the BS like side burners, etc. that will never get used.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:13 AM
+ eleventy
I love that show, one of the best comedies I’ve ever watched. But no, I was more like Henry (sans acting talent) than I was Ron Donald.
/Here lies Ron Donald, held back in the first grade because he couldn’t figure out scissors
May 31st, 2012 at 10:16 AM
I just got a new grill, and thought the same thing but ended up finding one on sale that had a sideburner and thought I’d never use it. I used it last weekend for the first time to cook up some steamers. It was great because it didn’t stink up the whole house.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:17 AM
“I was with you until this. You don’t have to work for tips to understand their role.”
As this thread seems to illustrate, you kind of do. I worked at a somewhat pricey Cajun seafood place at one point during college. There were a certain group of people that tended to eat at this place and had a reputation for spending $50 on food, $50 on drinks, and $2 on the tip, no matter the service. So, the waitstaff (which included a lot of these same types of people) would try to earn favor from the hostesses by getting other types of customers seated in their sections.
If you bust your ass and get a $2 tip on a $100 bill day after day, you get a little bitter. And back then, the wage paid was $2/hour. Unless you’ve ever put in $20 worth of work and got $2 for it, you just don’t understand. The least you can do is let the manager know when you get sub-par service, so that the restaurant can fix the problem, whether it’s the waiter getting canned or the kitchen service being addressed.
If you leave a small tip with no explanation, you are telling the waiter that you’re a cheap asshole. No waiter, no matter how bad, will assume it’s his poor effort. It’s easier to blame your cheap assholery.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:17 AM
NO SHIT?!?!?! how was it?
May 31st, 2012 at 10:20 AM
Russia was great. Was in St. Petersburg for a week, just an amazing place. If you are bride shopping, head there, the women are gorgeous (my wife even commented on the women there). Also went to Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan for a week. Definitely a 3rd world experience there.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:22 AM
lol…heard that bride shopping in russia is a huge thing these days. westerners use their version of facebook to find wives…we had some dude in our office that got everyone’s wireless rights taken away because he’d find a way around the firewall to buy russian brides on the internet.
not surprisingly, two of them robbed him, the other refused to get off the plane on the runway and he’s still married to the fourth and now they’re expecting. crazy shit.
id LOVE to go to russia…moscow, st petersburg, the caucasus mountains…love russia.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:24 AM
2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi…you go, meet snow bunny, make good times.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:27 AM
It is worth the trip. St. Petersburg is only a bit over 2 hours from Munich by plane. One watchout: it is fairly expensive, along the lines of downtown Chicago.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:28 AM
this snow bunny, what you expect me to do with this, friend? i am thinking you are trying to get yuri rabies if i was not knowing any better.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Return in 2018, watch World Cup, spend time with 3 year old child.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:31 AM
Buy the good stuff, like Ozark Oak, and it’s a cinch.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:33 AM
What’d they think of the ol’ “finger through the hole” gesture?
May 31st, 2012 at 10:33 AM
little sasha! how you’ve grown!
May 31st, 2012 at 10:34 AM
1. American made
2. Weber quality
3. Porcelain lid. The lid probably weighs 35lbs or better.
4. Pretty good warranty.
5. Optional colors.
6. It’s a fucking Weber
May 31st, 2012 at 10:36 AM
charcoal, although I have found controlling the heat to be difficult at time
Not me – my last gas grill srarted flaming up in spots after about 4-5 months (a lot of use). Charcoal gives me a more even heat. And my grill has charcoal racks so I can raise/lower the coals during cooking … oh yes.
And zucchini/squash/peppers/tomatoes grilled over charcoal food porn. Ridiculously good.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:36 AM
And zucchini/squash/peppers/tomatoes grilled over charcoal is food porn. Ridiculously good.
fixed.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:37 AM
I was in St.Peterburg about 11 years ago. I remember everything being sold on the black market. Quite a different experience from GYD. And the subway system had me scared shitless.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:37 AM
Be prepared to pay twice as much.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:38 AM
I bought Weber Spirit last weekend. BEST FUCKING GAS GRILL OUT THERE. Warranty is good. Construction is great. Looks good.
Price is a little higher, but 400 to last 15+ years vs 100 for 3 is a no brainer to me.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Be prepared to pay twice as much.
Twice as much? Yes. It will also last twice as long so in the long run you save money.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:40 AM
You get what you pay for
May 31st, 2012 at 10:41 AM
We shall see.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Mine is eight years old, a $300 grill from Target or somewhere. The exterior is rusting but it still works fine. Do these Webers stand up well to winter weather?
May 31st, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Those guys probably dance with your Weber grills like a bunch of mental patients as well.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:44 AM
Subway was quite good IMO. Lots of really nice stations with artwork and such. Didn’t see much black market activity, but then again, wasn’t really looking. Did notice that there was an active market between the hotel bell captain and certain taxi drivers. Also seemed to be the case for certain restaurants, where the hotel said reservations were necessary, and yet few people were there. Sort of strange…
May 31st, 2012 at 10:45 AM
i like my weber grill.
1. my uncle was too lazy to move it to his new house so it was “cheap”
2. it doubles as a sturdy tripod for videotaping while i chip.
huzzah swiss army grill.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Can’t say for certain, since I live in the South, but the shroudand the aluminum castings have a 25 year warranty. Keep it covered when not in use, take care of it, and I don’t see why it wouldn’t hold up for 15+ years.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:47 AM
There are a lot of Webers among Consumer Reports’ best gas grills, for what it’s worth.
May 31st, 2012 at 11:07 AM
Don’t leave asparagus off that list.
May 31st, 2012 at 11:56 AM
Don’t leave asparagus off that list.
I don’t grow asparagus in my garden. I literally fire up the grill, walk to the garden, grab a vege, cut it and cook it. ftw
May 31st, 2012 at 1:18 PM
Buble is the new for bewbies.