Projecting the 2012 Quarterbacks: Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, and Ben Roethlisberger
The third installment of projecting the quarterbacks for next season includes the three younger Super Bowl winners, Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, and Ben Roethlisberger, after looking at Drew Brees, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning last week. I’ve also looked at five quarterbacks who were rookies in 2011. You’ll want to go look at those to see some of what I’m doing.
Today’s quarterbacks are all in their prime, between ages 29 and 31 this year, and so the number of potential comps is greater. With the older Hall of Famers, I just looked at the overall quality of those still playing, since the numbers were smaller. At ages 29 to 31, though, I went into how they played, looking at interception rate, yards per attempt, completion percentage, touchdown rate and sack rate differences. I’m also using “league adjusted” numbers, so that while completion percentages have been climbing and interception rates falling since the 1970′s, I’m comparing players to others who ranked in the same range.
For all three of today’s quarterbacks, I used their most recent season, and then also used a similarity score for the previous two seasons combined as well to get a career curve. For example, Ty Detmer actually shows up as similar to Ben Roethlisberger at age 29 (pretty good YPA, average TD and interception rates, mediocre sack numbers), but only through 16 passes the previous two years. He gets knocked off the list, properly, by including the two prior years.
Let’s get to it.
AARON RODGERS
Not surprisingly, Rodgers’ comparables show up as guys who had all-time great seasons at age 28: Manning in 2004, Montana in 1984, Warner in 1999, McNabb in 2004 as the Eagles reached the Super Bowl, and Favre in the last of his three MVP seasons in 1997.
Also, not surprising, a lot of those guys regressed from those insane numbers a year later but were still very good, so while projecting Rodgers to duplicate last season would be optimistic, he should still project, along with Drew Brees, as one of the best candidates to win MVP this season.
Rodgers most similar players, age 28: Peyton Manning, Phillip Rivers, Joe Montana, Donovan McNabb, Kurt Warner, Boomer Esiason, Brett Favre, Dave Krieg, Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger
Rodgers’ 2012 Projection:
15 Games Started, 344 of 510 (67.5%), 4,340 passing yards (8.5 YPA), 36 TD, 12 INT
36 Sacks Taken, 45 Rush Attempts, 225 Rushing Yards and 3 Touchdowns
Eli Manning provides someone with a high yards per attempt, and a very good sack rate, at age 30. His list of comps feature some elite quarterbacks plus others who posted good yards per attempt figures but were average at avoiding interceptions and perhaps struggled with that in the previous two years, but avoided sacks.
Eli was better than his group of comps collectively at age 30, particularly at yards per attempt. Expect some drop back (Cruz may not get those elusive 90+ yard touchdowns this year) in that category, but still a very good performance as Eli is still in his prime.
Eli’s most similar players, age 30: Phillip Rivers, Dan Marino, Kerry Collins, Brett Favre, Elvis Grbac, Jake Delhomme, Dan Fouts, Matt Hasselbeck, Steve McNair, Stan Humphries
Eli’s 2012 Projection:
15 Games Started, 318 of 525 (60.5%), 4,000 passing yards (7.6 YPA), 27 TD, 16 INT
26 Sacks Taken, 25 Rush Attempts, 50 Rushing Yards and 1 Touchdown
Roethlisberger’s 2012 Projection:
14 Games Started, 314 of 490 (64.0%), 3,970 passing yards (8.1 YPA), 23 TD, 14 INT
38 Sacks Taken, 30 Rush Attempts, 90 Rushing Yards and 2 Touchdowns
[all data via pro-football-reference.com, images via US Presswire]

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May 31st, 2012 at 2:28 PM
Did you just put Dave Krieg and Boomer Esiason in the same sentence as Aaron Rodgers?
May 31st, 2012 at 2:29 PM
OH THANK GOD…a real, live legitimate post.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:30 PM
I can see Roethlisberger dropping off a cliff around 2013 and then having a Warner-esque renaissance in 2016 with Cleveland.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:32 PM
honestly, seemed low until i saw he only threw for 21 last year.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:33 PM
Did you just put Dave Krieg and Boomer Esiason in the same sentence as Aaron Rodgers?
Boomer averaged over 8 yards per pass attempt through age 28. He led the league the year before and went to a Super Bowl just like Rodgers at same age.
As for Krieg, he had some high yards per attempt but below average sack totals, which is why he shows up near the bottom of the top ten.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:33 PM
This is getting out of hand.
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/05/31/man-denied-bail-after-dismembered-body-parts-found-in-home/
May 31st, 2012 at 2:34 PM
honestly, seemed low until i saw he only threw for 21 last year.
He’s exceeded 23 only twice in eight seasons. Somewhat surprising.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:35 PM
I can see Roethlisberger dropping off a cliff around 2013 and then having a Warner-esque renaissance in 2016 with Cleveland.
no way. when ben goes he’s going hard
to the feed trough
May 31st, 2012 at 2:35 PM
i’ll take it.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:36 PM
im surprised dan fouts hasn’t popped up more in the player comparisons…especially for the big stat guys.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:37 PM
emanuel met with goodell about chicago sb
May 31st, 2012 at 2:38 PM
wait, 15 games started?
May 31st, 2012 at 2:38 PM
So Phillip Rivers is comparable to every single one of these guys yet still manages to suck. Big Ben, MVP. Book it.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:39 PM
did stabler come up? lotsa bombs to cliff branch, great TE in casper
May 31st, 2012 at 2:39 PM
he went over that before bro…keep your head on a swivel.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:39 PM
im surprised dan fouts hasn’t popped up more in the player comparisons…especially for the big stat guys.
I believe he was in Brees and Peyton. He’s in Eli. Big Ben completely different style, takes a lot of sacks. Rodgers has thrown way fewer interceptions and a higher sack rate, and Fouts’ best seasons were still to come at age 28, I’m sure Fouts was in the next group of ten for him.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:40 PM
im surprised dan fouts hasn’t popped up more in the player comparisons…especially for the big stat guys.
Anti-beard bias.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:40 PM
spence….
Eli’s most similar players, age 30: Phillip Rivers, Dan Marino, Kerry Collins, Brett Favre, Elvis Grbac, Jake Delhomme, Dan Fouts, Matt Hasselbeck, Steve McNair, Stan Humphries
May 31st, 2012 at 2:41 PM
Aaron Rodgers looks like he is already 45 years old. I fully bet that his barber has to cut hair that is growing out of his ears.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:41 PM
did i seriously spell fouts wrong when i hit ctrl+f?
/checks
I FUCKING DID.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:42 PM
Bruce Arians wasn’t the type to stockpile Ben’s TD total inside the 5 yard line, and ran the ball every single time. An anti-Sanchez, if you will.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:43 PM
mark can’t-chez.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:46 PM
Where’s the Steve Spurrier stipend post?
May 31st, 2012 at 2:48 PM
just made the turn…should be on the 11th green.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:48 PM
I really really hope this website is still around the day Roethlisberger signs with Cleveland.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:50 PM
id be dougie-ing.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:51 PM
I’m surprised TBL didn’t make Lisk shoehorn the Sanchize into this post.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:52 PM
sanchez’ most similar players: todd collins, rob johnson, brodie croyle.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:53 PM
i can’t ever remember it being this dead during the week. ever.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:53 PM
Weeden will be a great mentor for him.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:55 PM
I’ll host his ACL’s funeral after week one of the season.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:55 PM
bradon weeden’s most similar players at age 28: warren moon, steve young.
/oh self, surely you can’t be that delusional
May 31st, 2012 at 2:56 PM
The only things worthy enough to be compared to Aaron Rodgers are Reeses peanut butter cups and fugitive sex
May 31st, 2012 at 2:56 PM
i can’t ever remember it being this dead during the week. ever.
i keep refreshing expecting 140 comments, especially for this
know what it is? no tebow
May 31st, 2012 at 2:57 PM
Eli pisses me off. Not just for obvious reasons, but he can suck during a majority of a season or a game, and then just get into the zone and march a team down the field.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:58 PM
bradon weeden’s most similar players at age 28: warren moon, steve young.
with six years of pro experience behind them
May 31st, 2012 at 2:58 PM
typical yinzer funeral? kinda like a viking funeral pyre only instead of a boat to valhalla, they’re taken to yinzhala by a flaming garbage truck driven by mcsteely.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:58 PM
Needs more Rick Meyer.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:58 PM
Agreed, and I’m barely even here anymore. It’s like a ghost town.
May 31st, 2012 at 3:00 PM
Eli pisses me off.
pats fan
May 31st, 2012 at 3:02 PM
Speaking of Yinzer, what was the big deal in Ohio about getting yuengling beer? You’d have thought gold was coming across the border.
May 31st, 2012 at 3:03 PM
sanchez’ most similar players: todd collins, rob johnson, brodie croyle.
Jeff Garcia, Moses Moreno
/spanic
May 31st, 2012 at 3:04 PM
ohio is full of idiots.
May 31st, 2012 at 3:05 PM
That’s why I said besides the obvious.
May 31st, 2012 at 3:05 PM
News to me. Yuengling is a nice beer and all, but it’s nothing to really go #3 on yourself. It’s no Natty Ice that’s for sure.
/team shit beer
May 31st, 2012 at 3:07 PM
did i seriously spell fouts wrong when i hit ctrl+f?
/checks
I FUCKING DID.
Inexcusable for you.
May 31st, 2012 at 3:07 PM
caught many a game at fuots field…
May 31st, 2012 at 3:07 PM
+ 11,536,504
May 31st, 2012 at 3:08 PM
/team shit beer
You like made from fermented shit? Are you in prison or something?
May 31st, 2012 at 3:08 PM
News to me. Yuengling is a nice beer and all, but it’s nothing to really go #3 on yourself. It’s no Natty Ice that’s for sure.
They actually put an article in the paper about it and there were people at my work that talked it up real big. To me it’s like drinking Killian’s and thinking you’ve got a fine irish beer, (made by coors).
May 31st, 2012 at 3:09 PM
assuming that’s ohio’s population, i think you should probably take out say…50 from that number. you know, we’re not all bad.
May 31st, 2012 at 3:14 PM
pats fan
That’s why I said besides the obvious.
i was joking too! i though he pissed you off because you were a giants fan and he’s frustrating to watch.
life is so weird!
/not peppy in real life
May 31st, 2012 at 3:50 PM
If your main choice of beer is something from Bud, Coors, or Miller I am going to assume you know nothing about beer and make your choices based on what has the most tv commercials.
I also laugh at you.
Stop giving them your money and go get some real beer