Bud Selig Has Little Interest in Expanding Instant Replay
Bud Selig spoke at a sport and society conference on Wednesday at St. Norbert College in the facially expressive commissioner’s home state of Wisconsin. The topic of instant replay inevitably became a talking point and Selig, to the surprise of no one, stated he did not think expanding video review was necessary.
What I did find surprising was him explaining that he has had “very, very little pressure from people who want to do more.” Strange, there sure seems to be plenty of people calling for it that are close to the game, with Don Mattingly being the biggest advocate among MLB managers. I guess those closest to Bird Selig’s lavish nest are the ones remaining mum on the glaringly obvious need. Sadly, as long as Selig, who will be 78-years-old in July, and the rest of the elderly, “traditional” personalities like Jim Leyland remain in the game, don’t expect anything to change regardless of how many times the opportunity presents itself.
His contract as the fine, feathery commissioner of baseball runs through 2014, at which point he will probably sign yet another extension despite talk of retiring. Safe to say you can expect the gift of the human element to remain a hilariously embarrassing factor, one blown call at a time.
Previously: Blown Call Cost the Tigers a Game, But Jim Leyland Still Doesn’t Want Instant Replay
Previously: Tim Welke’s Blown Call in the Dodgers-Rockies Game Was Absurdly Awful

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May 24th, 2012 at 1:53 PM
I stopped reading after ‘interest’
May 24th, 2012 at 1:54 PM
horatio, there isn’t any security camera footage of the incident and the MLB commissioner is our only eyewitness.
guess we’ll have to rely on…
/sunglasses
…bird’s eye view.
/YYYEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 24th, 2012 at 1:55 PM
It’ll happen. Fair/Foul calls will be next. Maybe plays at the plate.
May 24th, 2012 at 1:56 PM
I don’t know why all sports don’t go to the college football mdel of having an official in the booth to review all plays. It takes no time. In baseball, no balls and strikes, but tags, HRs, etc., are fair game.
/Also didn’t read after ‘interest.’
May 24th, 2012 at 1:56 PM
Was hoping you would stop after ‘Bud’
May 24th, 2012 at 1:58 PM
J-to-the-Diddy is gonna wanna know why only 2 TBL links are in the body of this post.
May 24th, 2012 at 1:59 PM
The man is forever wondering who farted
May 24th, 2012 at 1:59 PM
The NCAA booth officials literally cannot tell if a field goal is good or not, that’s not a system I would trust to determine if a ball if foul or fair.
May 24th, 2012 at 1:59 PM
Bring on the robot players as well.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:00 PM
The best system would be a straight copy of the NFL. Make managers decide when and where it would be best to challenge an apparent blown call.
Adds another layer of strategy to the game that I think would be pretty cool.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:00 PM
The “Selig as a bird” comedy material never fails to make me laugh. Great caption.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:01 PM
Ten years ago, would anyone have said that Bud Selig was the best commissioner in professional sports? I still think he’s a doofus, but that case can certainly be made.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:01 PM
“bud, why are your pants in the oven?”
WHAT?
“i said your pants are in the oven again.”
HUH?
“I SAID YOUR PANTS ARE IN THE OVEN AGAIN.”
WHAT?
May 24th, 2012 at 2:03 PM
No way. David Stern. Playoffs, baby!
May 24th, 2012 at 2:03 PM
It’s not their fault the goalpost are so short.
/Talking more about the use of another official to review everything, not “go under the hood” or go to the scorers table for 5 minutes.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:04 PM
The NHL system of a war room would be great. Especially considering the MLB rulebook is a shitload less ambiguous than the NHL’s.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:04 PM
Fidel Goodell laughs at this.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:05 PM
USA Today operating with some class apparently. Hernia and Co better watch out or they might be this cat in the future.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:06 PM
Goodell’s in a position where he’d have to work hard to fuck things up but by god he’s doing everything he can to make that happen…grading on a curve I think Selig keeping baseball rolling in cash when it’s always allegedly on the edge of extinction is the more impressive reign
May 24th, 2012 at 2:06 PM
Couldve been something about Bud Cort, and I’ll be damned if I miss that.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:06 PM
goodell would change the definition of doofus while the rest of the league keeps using the word they always have…and then he’d fine them for poor grammar and pound the shield.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:06 PM
How is Goodell fucking anything up?
May 24th, 2012 at 2:07 PM
No one is going to listen to what Mattingly thinks until he shaves those sideburns.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:08 PM
They couldn’t use the hundreds of replays they show on TV to get that figured out?
May 24th, 2012 at 2:10 PM
Actually can’t review left/right misses, only over/under the crossbar iirc.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:10 PM
I stopped reading after ‘interest’
Was hoping you would stop after ‘Bud’
i need a huskerdawg ruling on first comments, not yours. at least mine was about-ish the post
May 24th, 2012 at 2:11 PM
The “Selig as a bird” comedy material never fails to make me laugh. Great caption. Babar
Indeed.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:11 PM
I guess some people’s only credential for being a good commissioner is making money.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:12 PM
Adds another layer of strategy to the game that I think would be pretty cool.
because if you love the game, why not make it last longer?
May 24th, 2012 at 2:12 PM
Wrong.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:13 PM
Being the best commissioner in sports ain’t easy. Don’t give in to the haters, Bud.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:13 PM
Are you saying that as a baseball traditionalist?
May 24th, 2012 at 2:14 PM
I’m on the side of Bud Selig and a bunch of old people I guess.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:14 PM
It would also give them something to do during the four hours they’re sitting in the dugout getting fat.
/the human element
//baseball is embarrassingly out of touch with reality
May 24th, 2012 at 2:15 PM
It’s not their fault the goalpost are so short.
Actually can’t review left/right misses, only over/under the crossbar iirc.
after they get the leg pads issue right maybe they can go back to the H goalposts you see in rural areas
May 24th, 2012 at 2:15 PM
Well I don’t care about the steroid stuff so I don’t hold that against him or the league…not a fan of the extra Wild Card not enraged about it
The only thing he’s done as commish that I hated was not contracting the Twins
May 24th, 2012 at 2:16 PM
The best system would be to have a 5th ump up in the booth watching the same TV replays that we see and phoning/radioing/carrier-pigeoning down to the field when one of those fat shits has fucked up.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:16 PM
why are your pants in the oven?”
WHAT?
“i said your pants are in the oven again.”
HUH?
“I SAID YOUR PANTS ARE IN THE OVEN AGAIN.”
WHAT?
did you steal this from a paterno post?
May 24th, 2012 at 2:16 PM
Baseball is as healthy as ever, but part of that reason is Selig’s (perhaps biggest) policy of blackmailing municipalities for taxpayer dollars so his owners can become even more rich.
There’s that, and the complete bungling of the steroid issue for many years, and the continued lack of control of the drunk driving issue… not so great.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:17 PM
The new CBA is bullshit meant to protect the Yankees and Red Sox (and therein, ESPN), but I don’t just blame him for that.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:18 PM
The one thing I hate the most about “modern” baseball is how long these damned primadonna pitchers and hitters take between every pitch. Bro, you’re gonna hit .240 whether you step outside the box, fix your batting gloves, spit, mess with your junk and your helmet, etc. Get a new routine. Stay in the f’ing box.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:18 PM
Agree Completely.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:18 PM
Yeah, what I was thinking was that I knew it wasn’t reviewable if it goes over the uprights
May 24th, 2012 at 2:19 PM
That’s fair, I’m not completely up-to-speed on all that entailed…basically makes it more difficult to build through the draft, no?
May 24th, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Granted, cassino, the one I was thinking of was a PAT now that I think about it so I’m not sure how that changes it. Still one of the most egregious blown calls in sports history.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:20 PM
I suppose this is a shot at Goodell then?
May 24th, 2012 at 2:21 PM
Bro, you’re gonna hit .240 whether you step outside the box, fix your batting gloves, spit, mess with your junk and your helmet, etc. Get a new routine. Stay in the f’ing box.
did a drinking game once. we each could pick what the other guy had to drink to each half inning: foul ball, strikeout, blah blah.
one half-inning mine was ‘every time a player adjusts something’. lenny dykstra comes to bat and i blacked out soon after
May 24th, 2012 at 2:21 PM
as a fan, I don’t think product has necessarily changed much. you can nitpick if you need to. it’s still baseball, so therefore it is awesome. his job is to keep everyone’s pockets lined. mission fucking accomplished.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:22 PM
Correct. It hurts the small market teams immensely.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:22 PM
Wouldnt think that changes it at all, and I agree.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:22 PM
Get a new routine. Stay in the f’ing box.
This.
And coaches, quick scratching your nuts and get your signals to the players. And yes, little league coaches, I’m looking at you.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:22 PM
It puts strict limits on spending in the Rule 4 draft. Every team has a set dollar amount they can spend on players they draft each year, with penalties for going over being as much as forfeiture of future #1 picks.
Not really the brightest move just as you have a major opportunity to keep stealing guys like Bubba Starling from the football track.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:22 PM
Couldve been something about Bud Cort, and I’ll be damned if I miss that.
the bang gulp guy?
May 24th, 2012 at 2:23 PM
as with many situations, death is the only thing that can bring about change.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:23 PM
But Butters… it’s actually great news for the White Sox as long as your GM remains.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:24 PM
I like the drinking game aspect of that. I usually just play the $1 game. Bet a dollar on everything. Number of pitches. What’s gonna happen with the next pitch, etc.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:26 PM
Pass the cup. Super simple.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:27 PM
Baseball is “healthy” for the same reason CBS is a “first-place network” — anachronistic metrics and old people.
Old people go to, and watch, lots of baseball games, and attendance – an ancient, massively flawed metric – is used as evidence that baseball is fine. Supporters say that “attendance is up” (even though it’s not) without admitting any rise is mostly due to new stadiums.
A complete lack of competition in the summer certainly contributes to interest, interest that wanes with the start of the NFC preseason. The World Series gets comparatively poor ratings unless the Yankees or Red Sox make an appearance.
I enjoy baseball but lets not pretend that Bud Selig has been anything but a joke during his tenure as commissioner.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:28 PM
And coaches, quick scratching your nuts and get your signals to the players. And yes, little league coaches, I’m looking at you.
macho posturing ftw
May 24th, 2012 at 2:30 PM
Anachronistic metrics like labor harmony, total revenue, and profits?
The rest of what you say is just a common, worthless story people who don’t really like or understand the mechanics of baseball financials tell each other.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:31 PM
I coach a high school baseball team in the summer. The opposing team coaches are always the worst. My favorite is the guy who gives super intense signs to his leadoff batter on the first pitch of the game. I always holler at my pitcher that the “take” sign is on. Throw it right down broadway.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:32 PM
i miss the lifestyle that involved weekly if not daily drinking games. alltime favorite was quarters because of the rules part. make three in a row, make a rule. no saying I or me
never cared for tossing caps, never played pong
May 24th, 2012 at 2:32 PM
COMMUNITY IS NOT FUNNY JUST GIVE UP THE FUCKING GHOST MAN
May 24th, 2012 at 2:34 PM
Actually it’s the old metrics that undersell the sport, at least ratings-wise, since their digital presence is tough to accurately represent
May 24th, 2012 at 2:35 PM
I coach a high school baseball team in the summer. The opposing team coaches are always the worst. My favorite is the guy who gives super intense signs to his leadoff batter on the first pitch of the game. I always holler at my pitcher that the “take” sign is on. Throw it right down broadway.
chatter analysis is pretty fun. i may not be the biggest baseball fan but it was my favorite sport to cover
May 24th, 2012 at 2:35 PM
You would think the people who go on and on about simple national ratings would at least acknowledge things like this… but they never do.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:36 PM
I’m not saying Selig is any sort of historically great commissioner, but his sport is enjoying labor peace and economic stability. Stern lost his fastball years ago and seems to have no appreciation for the term “conflict of interest” and Goodell is similarly ignorant when it comes to the term “due process” and seems destined to have labor unrest for the foreseeable future, which he bears at least some responsibility for. It’s more a knock on the others than any love for Bud.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:37 PM
May 24th, 2012 at 2:37 PM
death is the only thing that can bring about change.
and nick cave will tell you that death is not the end
/murder ballads ftw
May 24th, 2012 at 2:38 PM
basically makes it more difficult to build through the draft, no?
Well, I’m not so sure about this.
I’m not so sure it really helps Yankees / Red Sox /Large market vs small market.
If a team pays over their “cap” or “slot” there are penalties. In many ways, this cap may help to bring down total monies paid to rookies – kind of like the NFL rookie cap. That should help the small markets.
In essence – their trying to lower the salaries of the rookies overall and if you go outside that envelope, you pay fines and lose draft choices.
Correct me, if I’m wrong.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:38 PM
Do you have a link that shows baseball is more profitable than ever? And this being a baseball conversation, does it show advanced metrics like “profits adjusted for inflation,” and “stadium sizes?” Revenue is up because ticket and concession prices are up, as well as the formation of regional networks like Yes and MASN. And I didn’t know “millionaires playing a kid’s game without bitching” is a testament to great leadership.
Sure, you may have heard the arguments before but that doesn’t make them any less true. Unless is modernizes, baseball has 5-10 years left at its current rate before its base of fans begin dying off and football takes it over once and for all.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:38 PM
agh – their = they’re – I hate that.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:39 PM
THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE TRUE SPORT ALL OTHERS MUST PERISH!!!1!!1!
May 24th, 2012 at 2:40 PM
MLB’s stance is that paying a first round pick over the odds is ruining baseball but paying 50 million for negotiation rights to a Japanese player is just fine.
The draft limitations don’t favor the big teams, but the fact that they’re cutting off the ability to build through the draft like in recent times and still letting big money teams spend like a Kuwaiti teenager in free agency is the problem.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:41 PM
I always holler at my pitcher that the “take” sign is on. Throw it right down broadway.
Awesome.
And I hate playing for coaches that require first pitch takes from every at-bat.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:41 PM
Used to be.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:42 PM
Adjusted for inflation, revenue still increased close to 250% in the last fifteen years.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:42 PM
I love how many on this site praise Selig’s horrific leadership solely because of economic stability – “He’s bungled almost everything he’s touched as commissioner, but the teams are making money so he’s great” – yet shit all over Goddell, the commissioner of the most popular, culturally relevant, profitable sports league in the country.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:42 PM
Always good to see the anti-baseball set talk out of their collective anus. Great work, Queefer.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:44 PM
but the fact that they’re cutting off the ability to build through the draft like in recent times and still letting big money teams spend like a Kuwaiti teenager in free agency is the problem.
I guess I just don’t agree that the “negotiation rights” thing is prevalent problem. Building through the draft and latin leagues is still the way to build top-to-bottom talent.
We agree to disagree, I guess.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:44 PM
I’m not saying this is wrong, but give examples.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:45 PM
Real quick, which one of those two just had a work stoppage and is now facing a collusion lawsuit?
May 24th, 2012 at 2:46 PM
The thing is that small-market teams could spend relatively (to free agency) minor bucks to get more talent in the draft (at the risk of the development process, but still worthwhile) when there were no real penalties for paying over the MLB recommendation. Now they don’t really have that freedom any more.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:47 PM
The CBA also changed the Latin American scouting. Latin players have to be registered with MLB before you can sign them now (or, starting soon, the Dodgers are trying to beat the system before it goes into effect). Scouts have bitched that this is going to keep teams from getting any hidden talent.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:47 PM
If you want to credit someone for making the NFL the most popular, culturally relevant, profitable sports league in the country, throw some love to Pete Rozelle, not Goodell.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:50 PM
Yeah I’m not quite sure why people act like the NFL was MLS before Goodell took over for Tagliabue, too.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:52 PM
The All-Star Game determining homefield in the WS is pretty stupid but just as asinine as alternating between leagues
I’m hoping Queefer comes back with the steroid thing since if there’s ever been a league to only give a token shit about PED use, it’s the NFL
May 24th, 2012 at 2:53 PM
To Selig’s credit, though, doing this in response to someone being too drunk to pitch in an ASG was pretty goddamn hilarious.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:53 PM
The thing is that small-market teams could spend relatively (to free agency) minor bucks to get more talent in the draft
Correct – so with new limits/penalties in the draft, the rookie salaries should trend lower, allocating more money to the one or two free agent signings that most teams execute ( and that we all know the Pirates and Royals will ultimately not do).
I still think they’re the league is forcing the rookie salary down to help the smaller markets stay in existence.
The CBA also changed the Latin American scouting.
Here again – it’s more regulated and it appears as though the league is attempting to level the field. (and cash in at the league level, of course)
May 24th, 2012 at 2:53 PM
Then they could set it up like the amateur draft…teams register the player, and have the rights to sign them. Other teams can’t see the registrations for other squads.
MLB Scouting service would still register players for all to see, but gems could still be found by individual teams.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:53 PM
Steroids
The All-Star game
Instant replay
Real quick, which is the most popular sport in the country by a Greg Oden dick length? Also, which of those had a 1994 work stoppage, a record-tainting steroid scandal that was purposefully ignored to make people forget about his work stoppage, an All-Star game disaster, instant replay disaster? Oh.
Football is bulletproof. Goodell has made some massive missteps – the Saints suspensions chief among them – but nothing can compete with the NFL right now. If Selig is going to be labeled a success because baseball makes money and isn’t dead despite his best efforts, then Goodell can’t be slammed when he’s exceeded Selig’s successes in every regard. That’s my only point.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:55 PM
Hence why its commissioner doesn’t really matter
May 24th, 2012 at 2:56 PM
I wonder if the rookie salaries do trend lower, if more guys opt for college.
Whatever happened to the talks about MLB, PGA, etc sponsoring college scholarships?
May 24th, 2012 at 2:56 PM
Football is bulletproof
Yikes. You made some decent points, but this is patently false. And I think the ongoing discussion about player safety, retirement pensions, and the extent to which the league cares about either will do quite a bit to undermine it in the coming years.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:57 PM
But Tagliabue and Goddell were instrumental in making it bulletproof. Goodell’s harsh punishments for conduct in particular have contributed greatly to its image.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:57 PM
I see what you’re saying, but the point is a few million dollars goes a long way in the Rule 4 draft. It doesn’t go very far in free agency.
You’ll never get a franchise altering player because you have an extra $3 million in free agency, but you might if you were willing to in the old draft model. So putting more resources in the draft made sense for small markets, that’s gone now.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:57 PM
May 24th, 2012 at 2:58 PM
The only reason that MLB had a steroid scandal was because they started to care about it. The NFL has never and will never care about PEDs.
Which will be an interesting point if at any point it comes up in the concussion trials.
May 24th, 2012 at 2:59 PM
Steroids – meh – fixed. They have a tougher drug policy now than the NFL (Braun excluded, of course)
The All-Star game – at least they have one where the guys actually play to win the game.
Instant replay What did he mess up here? Instant replay in the NFL creates some of the worst delays and momentum killers on record for any sporting event.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:00 PM
But it doesn’t right now, though. If we’re talking about potential problems in the coming years then baseball gets placed under that microscope, too.
If it’s patently false, then why did an ugly, drawn-out labor dispute have absolutely no effect on fan support or popularity? Why does football dominate the cultural landscape from August to February despite lawsuits, concussion concerns, pensions, and poor officiating?
I have great concerns about player safety, football’s long-term effects, and the seriousness to which the league views these issues. And like I said, I’m appalled at the way Goodell threw the Saints under the bus to try and avoid lawsuits centered around former player safety. But the league is a machine that will not be stopped.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
And thus more commercial revenue from Budweiser and Verizon!
/most boring sports league to watch on television
May 24th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
Which will be an interesting point if at any point it comes up in the concussion trials.
And it remains to be seen how damaging in the public eye those trials will be.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:02 PM
I still think they’re the league is forcing the rookie salary down to help the smaller markets stay in existence and not be a real threat to anyone.
Can’t see/agree how this holds true. Again – how you and I interpret is diff.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:03 PM
This would insinuate that the league’s popularity was waning during the Tagliabue administration thanks to player arrests…doubt there’s evidence to back up that claim
Fantasy football has had more of an impact on the league’s growth than player punishments
May 24th, 2012 at 3:03 PM
It’s the T-600 wearing a bandana for no goddamn reason of sports leagues.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:04 PM
Steroids are “fixed” even though the NL MVP used them to win an award, eh? It’s improved, no doubt, but hallowed records fell because of drug use. That’s a permanent stain on the game.
Whether or not an exhibition should matter is a different discussion (although I like that it counts for something). His deer-in-headlights reaction to the tie is what I was referring to.
You don’t truly believe that instant replay makes football worse, do you? The calls need to be right. Football has taken steps to make that happen. Baseball doesn’t give a shit.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:04 PM
I seriously doubt the larger public gives one bit of a shit about those trials. The real result will be a financial and liability one.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:04 PM
But it doesn’t right now, though. If we’re talking about potential problems in the coming years then baseball gets placed under that microscope, too.
Because retired baseball players are shooting themselves in the chest so that their brains can be studied while simultaneously ending their horrendously painful lives, pain which likely came from actions during their playing days. That microscope?
If it’s patently false, then why did an ugly, drawn-out labor dispute have absolutely no effect on fan support or popularity? Why does football dominate the cultural landscape from August to February despite lawsuits, concussion concerns, pensions, and poor officiating?
I appreciate your boldness, but name me one sports league which has reached a height in popularity and then maintained it without any loss of position or revenue. Saying the league is bulletproof seems an incredibly foolish statement.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:04 PM
I honestly think Goodell’s heavy-handedness has hurt the league’s image as much as it’s helped it. Goodell in my opinion is the classic “born and third base and thinks he hit a triple” kind of guy.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:06 PM
I’d rather a record fall through a guy juicing than through a QB falling down and letting a gaped tooth retard sack him to set a record.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:06 PM
I struggle in that I still consider football to be the best TV Show of all sports, yet the structure of the game and commercial breaks are absolutely maddening and do make it quite boring sometimes.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:07 PM
Awesome.
Again, how are we slamming Goodell for increasing revenues when Selig is being lauded for doing the same? And the irony of baseball fans complaining about the speed of an NFL game is enough to make Alanis Morrisette slam her head in a car door. Holy shit, guys.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:07 PM
born “on” third base – clearly I wasn’t . . .
May 24th, 2012 at 3:07 PM
When road head to Dave Coullier goes wrong!
May 24th, 2012 at 3:08 PM
Yes.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:09 PM
Agree to disagree. One is cheating and a violation of federal law. The other is just a bad play.
Besides, records are far more important to the fabric of baseball – the ultimate stat-centric sport – than to football.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:09 PM
Baseball is a different kind of boring. Boring still, though.
Someone did a breakdown a few years ago of an average NFL game and found there was only something like eight minutes of actual plays happening in the entire game. I’ve gotten to the point where I just wait fifteen minutes and start the game on a DVR delay and fast forward through as much stoppage and commercials as possible.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:10 PM
Thought it was the back of a crowded theater?
/90s rock
May 24th, 2012 at 3:11 PM
I seriously doubt the larger public gives one bit of a shit about those trials. The real result will be a financial and liability one.
We can agree to disagree, but I have a feeling that the death of Junior Seau could end up being a watershed moment for how the public views the safety of the sport. Maybe I’m wrong and I have zero evidence that this is the case or will be at some point, it’s just a general feeling based on the reactions that I’ve come across.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:11 PM
Wish I had the willpower to do this (at least on primetime games as that’s usually when I’m watching alone). I might give it a shot again this year.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:11 PM
same here…when golf season finally ended, it was rough not coming home to having the whole thing already recorded. it was great watching games in an hour.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:12 PM
And MLB recognized this. The HR chase did save the sport’s ass.
I don’t give a fuck what Roger Maris’s family thinks about Bonds. Bonds is one of the three best baseball players of all time even without juicing.
Sports, at the root of it, are an entertainment business. Which is why 99.9% of Americans don’t care about steroids or concussions in any sport, they’re watching for gladiatorial combat and individual accomplishments to ask as a distraction.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:12 PM
I’m a huge proponent of soccer-style NFL games and hate the commercial-kickoff-commercial-first series-commercial pattern of NFL games. Loathe that shit. I watched a Euro feed for the Ravens’ Thanksgiving game and was amazed that Sky kicks it back to the studio on breaks for analysis and commentary. Fucking brilliant and awesome.
I just can’t abide by baseball fans criticizing football for being boring. Baseball is the most boring sport ever created.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:13 PM
I just think you’re overestimating Joe Sports Fan’s interest in the game.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:13 PM
Yardwork!
May 24th, 2012 at 3:14 PM
*act as, not ask as
Oh man how awful are those pundits? I love watching that feed. One of the best thing about streams is when you get a production feed and it just stays on the broadcast during commercials and it’s the stuff that isn’t getting aired to anyone but the broadcast truck.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:15 PM
Oh, I love football and it’s absolutely not boring. The TV show that the NFL games is becoming (or has become) a little boring, just because of the commercial structure. But that ain’t changing as long as the NFL gets all that revenue from national TV deals.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:15 PM
What Timmy said.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:16 PM
Barry Bonds is a cheating taint who loaded up on drugs to achieve something he wouldn’t have been able to otherwise.
I’d also disagree that sports is entertainment. That’s certainly one component, but it’s a competition – a competition with rules – first and foremost. You violate those rules and you’re done. Except in baseball.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:16 PM
are these foreigners doing football analysis? and where can i watch?
May 24th, 2012 at 3:16 PM
I’m coming to hate all the plays that are automatically reviewed by the booth…the less plays coaches have to debate challenging just means more debated spots on 3rd and inches
May 24th, 2012 at 3:18 PM
The big black man with the dreads is horrific, but the skinny white dude who looks like a crime lord’s accountant from some Guy Ritchie movie is actually quite good.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:19 PM
No, it’s entertainment…if people didn’t want to watch they’d be left playing their sports at the local park after clocking out of work for the day
May 24th, 2012 at 3:19 PM
If the NFL would quit being stupid and let coaches keep challenges they win, this wouldn’t be a problem. Hate that rule.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:20 PM
Queefer strikes me as the kind of guy who narcs on someone for snagging some Sour Patch Kids from the candy-scoop aisle.
It’s a mixture of British guys and former NFL players who have no business being on TV.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:21 PM
The fuck is “a challenge they win”?
- Mike Tomlin
May 24th, 2012 at 3:21 PM
I actually take the expensive trail mix, put it in the bag, and then ring it up as cheap raisins to save $3 a pound.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:22 PM
I just think you’re overestimating Joe Sports Fan’s interest in the game.
I will allow that that is a possibility. But do you think that the health issues suffered by retired players and the drastic actions those have occasionally led to is not or may not in the future become a point of general interest amongst even the non-football watching public?
May 24th, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Bonds would be considered a better all-around baseball player without roids.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Damn, I’m sorry missed this debate.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:23 PM
VETERAN MOVE RIGHT THERE! God bless PLU codes and self checkout lanes.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:23 PM
I consider myself a football fan 1st, baseball 2nd.
I think NFL games are more exciting than MLB.
I also think the typical meathead NFL fan, unlike me, thinks that baseball is just terrible and Goodell is a fucking communist.
The NFL, while the most popular sport, has had glimpses of becoming a brutal prison-based sport of maniacs. At some point, people will shy away if that ramp up continues. Goodell is protecting a brand and I agree with most of what he’s doing.
If you think steroids have changed baseball but not football, you’re fooling yourself.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
I would hope it would, I’m just pessimistic is all.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:25 PM
To take a POV I don’t even endorse, why would football give a shit what the non-football watching public thinks? Doens’t affect their revenue streams at all.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:25 PM
I actually take the expensive trail mix, put it in the bag, and then ring it up as cheap raisins to save $3 a pound.
A friend of mine admitted he got nailed at the local Kroger for that. No harm – they just stopped him and rang it up properly.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:25 PM
Joe Sports Fan is more about neg-burns and mustachio’d athletes.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:28 PM
Damn, really? I do that all the time…but always feel like a doucher when I do. The trail mix is like $6 a pound. The embarrassing thing is that I can certainly afford it, I just choose not to pay full price. Guess I’m like Bonds in that regard.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:32 PM
To take a POV I don’t even endorse, why would football give a shit what the non-football watching public thinks? Doens’t affect their revenue streams at all.
Sea changes in public opinion start somewhere. This strikes me in a similar way to a Brewery owner in the 1910s saying “Why should I care about what Prohibitionists think, it’s not like they drink anyway?”
May 24th, 2012 at 3:34 PM
Not sure if it was trail mix or candy or nuts. Knowing this guy, it was something drastically different in color/structure and price so the camera view the cashier has made it obvious.
Probably rang up trail mix as twizzlers.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:34 PM
Humble brag
May 24th, 2012 at 3:35 PM
Remember when it came out that the 2003 Carolina Panther team was all full of PEDs and no one cared (even the goddamn punter was)? Sadly that didn’t stop them from them going batshit over the Mitchell Report soon thereafter
May 24th, 2012 at 3:35 PM
And Joe Sports Fan definitely thinks those parties in ads where every single person is drinking a Budweiser are the greatest.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Oh my husband did, you better believe it
Because apparantly he wanted to watch the Eagles lose to the Pats in the Superbowl 2 years in a row
May 24th, 2012 at 3:37 PM
I was more going for “there’s no reason I should be a dick about paying for trail mix,” but fair point.
Ehhh, I kind of agree. I just don’t think enough has happened yet to warrant drastic action. Someone dies on the field after a hard, illegal hit? That’s a different story. The thing is, the NFL can make a strong case that football is actually less violent than it’s ever been.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:38 PM
Yes, speaking of cheating.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:38 PM
I seriously doubt head injuries will ever be a problem directly for the NFL because people voluntarily choose to stop watching because they are concerned about player safety. I’m sure some small percentage will, and I’ve heard from a few people within the last couple years that they’ve quit watching football in part because of that and in part because they think it’s boring (these are mostly old baseball fans — not trying to judge either sport, just saying).
However, I do think that eventually the head injuries will cause people to stop playing at lower levels, and people will stop watching not because they care about head injuries, but because the quality of the product is not nearly as good as it used to be. This will take some time, but I think we probably have reached peak football.
Personally I’m more of a football fan, and find my interest in baseball declining every year. I too would like to see them prevent batters from stepping out after every pitch. I’d also like to see fewer pitching changes, but it’s part of the game so whatever. I still like baseball though, and Barry Bonds is the best player I have ever seen play, and it’s not particularly close.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:40 PM
there’s no reason I should be a dick about paying for trail mix
Agreed.
Interesting question: What should you be a dick about?
Probably rang up trail mix as twizzlers.
He probably rang up trail mix as bananas – now that would be a score.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:41 PM
As far as head injuries impacting viewership goes, I’m getting to the point with hockey where I almost feel like I’m watching a snuff film about to unravel and it’s not a good feeling.
/just gave Bettman an idea to expand to Tijuana
May 24th, 2012 at 3:41 PM
Bananas, 4011.
God I hated working at the grocery store.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:43 PM
This is the only code I remember from my year of cashier-ing
May 24th, 2012 at 3:44 PM
Ehhh, I kind of agree. I just don’t think enough has happened yet to warrant drastic action. Someone dies on the field after a hard, illegal hit? That’s a different story. The thing is, the NFL can make a strong case that football is actually less violent than it’s ever been.
I don’t think enough has happened yet either, nor do I know what it will take for you or I or Joe Sports Fan to feel like we’ve crossed a line. That none of us think we have though, even after the death of Dave Duerson, Ray Easterling, and Junior Seau is kind of interesting in and of itself though.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:44 PM
Right? Somehow I still run into cashiers who have to look up the number. That’s the first one everyone learns.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
-Cheating in sports
-People who drive under the speed limit in the left lane
-Loudly pointing out when your spouse leaves a sliver of milk/tea/water in the fridge in a non-see-through container
-Teasers for movie teasers
May 24th, 2012 at 3:47 PM
when im president…everyone gets a warning, next time they’re stopped for this, imprisonment. on-the-spot execution if it’s during rush hour.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:48 PM
- People on the bus who have no concept of how to position themselves so others can get by.
- Asian drivers.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:48 PM
are all the produce codes the same?
May 24th, 2012 at 3:49 PM
As far as I know.. Its a pretty sweet system they have set up.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:49 PM
I grabbed a banana over lunch at it was 4011. I’ve never worked at a grocery store and I know that.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:50 PM
that’s a damn good system…real-live synergy.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:50 PM
- People on the bus who have no concept of how to position themselves so others can get by.
This can be extended to virtually any public place. The grocery store is getting fucking ridiculous: “yes please leave your fully laden cart in the middle of the aisle while you decide whether you’d like regular baked beans or the kind with a sugary paste included which the can calls ‘bourbon’. And please continue to let your child run up and down the aisle while screaming at the top of his lungs.”
May 24th, 2012 at 3:51 PM
Yes. They’re standardized by the Produce Marketing Association.
/worked in grocers for waaaay too long
May 24th, 2012 at 3:51 PM
are all the produce codes the same?
Do you mean are they the same across the country? I believe so. Because bananas are 4011 here in Texas too.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:53 PM
I agree with this, but my grocery store is to blame as well. They always have way too many fucking stands for various products in the aisles themselves. So there’s only room for one person with a cart to go through at a time, like a car parked on the side of a street I guess.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:54 PM
This. Goddammit I hate that crap, especially after work/on a weekend when the grocery store is mobbed. Move your shit to the side, control your spawn, and choose a fucking box of cereal and giddy the fuck up.
May 24th, 2012 at 3:57 PM
I will never move out of Wegmans’ country.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:02 PM
There’s a Central Market–the Texas and Arkansas equivalent of Whole Foods–right next to our condo. The level of self-importance people have while shopping in that place for Soy or Almond milk, brown organic eggs, Sorghum-based beer, Bulgarian yogurt, and imported camembert cheese is really quite astounding. I only go there for a few select things and I try to do so only on weeknights because that’s when it is least crowded. Going through there when it’s busy makes me feel rage similar to what drivers feel for bicyclists on busy streets.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:02 PM
yes please leave your fully laden NASCAR racecar simulation cart in the middle of the aisle
Fixed.
I hate those damn things.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:05 PM
The level of self-importance people have while shopping in that place
Insert “Fresh Market” here.
Funny – rumor is that the Publix near us is a haven for middle aged pickups. You place a hand-carry cart on the bottom rack of your cart to show “availability”. Just an unconfirmed rumor.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:06 PM
I sometimes go there when I visit my sister in Dallas. Lots and lots of hot women.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:07 PM
That’s now my new fantasy team name. Gracias.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:07 PM
People are so fucking gullible. Brown eggs are the same as white, it just means the feathers of the hen were a different color. I fucking hate white America.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:08 PM
I sometimes go there when I visit my sister in Dallas. Lots and lots of hot women.
Definitely, and they are all wearing work out clothes. People go there to strut around and feel good about themselves and attempt to make others envy them more than anything else.
But yes they do have great things there that you can’t find anywhere else. Nice beer selection too.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:09 PM
That’s now my new fantasy team name. Gracias.
I wish I could say I made that up, but there actually is now Bulgarian yogurt. I’m hoping the Russians get into the yogurt making biz and turn out a flavor called ‘Vodka and Potatoes’.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:16 PM
I went to make a sammich last night and my gf had left nothing but the fucking heels of the loaf of bread. I about flew through the roof.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:19 PM
this is store bought only though, right? because it seems like every time I eat farm fresh eggs the yokes are a whole lot darker yellow.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:20 PM
And coaches, quick scratching your nuts and get your signals to the players.
Squawkbox typo! You have no idea how much pressure this takes off all the rest of us.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:23 PM
Nonsense. Central Market is just about the greatest grocery store in America. The cheese section alone is fucking mind-bottling.
Someone’s doing some grocery projection.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:25 PM
doh!
May 24th, 2012 at 4:36 PM
Nonsense. Central Market is just about the greatest grocery store in America. The cheese section alone is fucking mind-bottling.
Someone’s doing some grocery projection.
Gerard, you misunderstand. I’m not speaking ill of Central Market, rather the type of people it attracts.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:42 PM
I seriously doubt head injuries will ever be a problem directly for the NFL because people voluntarily choose to stop watching because they are concerned about player safety
The concern for the NFL shouldn’t be that consumers will stop watching because of head injuries, but that the government steps in for safety reasons and regulates the game to such an extent that it is a pale comparison to the current “most popular sport in the world” game.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:46 PM
Also, I think the NFL is teetering on going to a bad place. The vitriol and mistrust between the league and the players is alarming, considering they allegedly just reached labor “peace”. Collusion and defamation lawsuits, extraordinary penalties, straight up hate in the press and social media – its unprecedented. It may not affect the product on the field initially, but its going to start shaking the financial foundations. It’s like a murder/suicide pact in slow motion.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:49 PM
Texans.
I hear you.
May 24th, 2012 at 4:51 PM
Srsly though — there is a Central Market in Poulsbo, on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington, and I’ve never been sure if it’s the same chain. Seems like a weird place to put one, but it sure looks like it is.
Fewer yoga pants and Mercedes SUVs at that one, for sure. Lotta Norwegians.