Russell Wilson and Short Quarterbacks: How Much Does Height Matter at QB?
Dan Pompei ran some interesting numbers in a column this weekend about passes batted down at the line of scrimmage for this year’s rookie quarterbacks. Russell Wilson, Seattle’s third round pick, had only two balls batted down at the line of scrimmage despite his 5’10″ height. The four first round quarterbacks? Andrew Luck with 2, Robert Griffin with 9, Brandon Weeden with 8, and Ryan Tannehill with 19.
Russell Wilson has officially intrigued me for a variety of reasons, none of them to do with his wife. He has been at the center of much debate because of his height, while many swear by his other tools and skills as being top ten caliber, based on his athleticism, strong arm, and ability to throw receivers open.
Then, there were Pete Carroll’s statements last week after rookie camp, in regard to Wilson. ”He showed us enough. He’s in the competition.” That would be the competition for the starting job in Seattle, where they already signed former Packers backup Matt Flynn this offseason and have Tarvaris Jackson. There can be a lot of coach speak this time of year, but for Carroll to come out and say that this early doesn’t discourage those who view Wilson as a legitimate NFL starter sooner rather than later.
So, what about his height? Here’s what I believe. Height is an important factor for a quarterback. It’s also an overvalued factor by teams selecting players. I went through the 1988 to 2007 draft and found all quarterbacks listed 6’1 or shorter. I couldn’t find heights for some players who never played in the NFL, and I excluded some that I was pretty sure were drafted as “athletes” to play other positions, as nobody was drafting a triple option QB like Gerry Gdowski of Nebraska to make him a pocket quarterback.
I found 18 players, from Michael Vick to Joe Hamilton. Most were at 6’1″, the shortest being Hamilton of Georgia Tech listed at 5’10″. I then used their draft position and compared the number of games started by the “short quarterbacks” to the average games started of the five players (plus ties) drafted most closely to their draft spot.
The “short quarterbacks” averaged 38.5 games started in the NFL, compared to 22.9 games started for the similarly drafted quarterbacks 6’2″ or taller (average draft pick = pick #134). The games started, of course, tended to decline as draft position increased for both groups, with fluctuation. More often than not, the short quarterback started more games than those drafted in a similar range. This doesn’t include the patron saint of the elite quarterback who was just too short, Doug Flutie, drafted in the 11th round in 1985.
Michael Vick, through his ups and downs, will finish near average in games started as a first overall pick. Cade McNown was a bust, while Drew Brees was a boom. Marques Tuiasasopo didn’t do anything, while Kordell Stewart ended up starting a lot of games relative to late 2nd round picks. After that, Mark Brunell, Rodney Peete, and Jeff Blake all started way more games than an average pick that late, while guys like Seneca Wallace, Bruce Gradkowski, and Ty Detmer, even if they were never full-time starters, played more frequently than their draft position would predict. Stewart, Brunell, Peete and Blake all started more than 80 games in the NFL, and only 15 total quarterbacks drafted between pick 50 and 250 during that twenty year period did that.
Wilson is shorter than that group, even, but was also viewed favorably enough because of his other skills to go earlier than all but 5 of them. The average quarterback drafted between picks 65 and 85 (Wilson went 75th) averaged 21.4 starts in the NFL. If we try to set an estimate on Wilson, assuming he also slipped due to a height bias, we might project an over/under of 37 starts in the NFL. That may not sound like much, but such a projection would put him in line with players drafted a round earlier, in the early to mid-second round.
Given what I’ve read about Wilson and seen, I’m actually hopeful that he can exceed that and be another height outlier. I like when sports are unpredictable, it’s why I’m drawn to it even though I search for truth through numbers, and I think the NFL would be a better, more diverse game if a player with the skill set of Russell Wilson overcame the one obvious negative and succeeded. I’ll take the over on Russell Wilson.
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May 22nd, 2012 at 3:18 PM
longest title ever?
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:20 PM
if you are in the competition when going against T-Jack, you best be polishing up that resume, because NFL QB isn’t in you rfuture.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:21 PM
He’s Jeff Garcia with a stronger arm. Because there is no way Jeff Garcia is actually 6’1, is there?
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:22 PM
Drew Brees: 6’0″ reported (more like 5’10″-5’11″)
Dan McGwire: 6’8″
Whose career would you opt to have? Height as a measurement for success is as meaningful as whether a QB is right-handed or left-handed.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:24 PM
I’ll take the over on Russell Wilson.
Is that a short joke?
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:25 PM
Because there is no way Jeff Garcia is actually 6’1, is there
is 6’1 code?
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:27 PM
HELL NO.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:28 PM
This is a well written post, but isn’t this kind of obvious? Most NFL quarterbacks don’t throw the ball over a 6’6″ lineman with his arms outstretched, they throw the ball through passing lanes created by the OL.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:30 PM
Short people are not to be trusted.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:30 PM
This is a well written post, but isn’t this kind of obvious? Most NFL quarterbacks don’t throw the ball over a 6’6″ lineman with his arms outstretched, they throw the ball through passing lanes created by the OL.
all i know is i can’t stand it when DL don’t raise their hands once they cannot get to the qb
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:31 PM
Hope he makes it.
/Team Short Guy
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:31 PM
Short people are not to be trusted.
/eyes spencer and Butters suspiciously
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:31 PM
TOSS ME!
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:31 PM
This is a well written post, but
no good comes after a but
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:32 PM
A lot.
/Rob Johnson > Doug Flutie
//pours one out for JPQ
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:32 PM
/Team Short Guy
shetland?
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:32 PM
For the record that could be either an LOTR reference or a quote from Jeff Garcia to a guy in the shower at the YMCA.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:32 PM
I’m waiting for JMac’s post on how 3-4 defensive linemen don’t get enough sacks.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:33 PM
unless it’s followed by another t
butt
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:33 PM
It can be both well written and obvious.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:33 PM
im waiting for the one that ranks CB’s by tackles.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:34 PM
High five!
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:35 PM
Mainiac.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:35 PM
Troy Smith is listed at 6. If Troy Smith is 6 Ft then Jamarcus Russell is 8 ft tall.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:36 PM
Is games started really the metric you want to look at though? It doesn’t exactly indicate performance by the short QBs. I think Wilson will get a shot in the NFL at starting though. Seapigeons will do anything to not start Tavaris.
I am also disappointed at the absence of Kurt Kittner on this list.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:36 PM
He is 8 ft high, I believe. Only 6.5 ft tall.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:37 PM
This is a well written post, but I had sex with your wife!
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:37 PM
no good comes after a but
It can be both well written and obvious.
then use an AND, bropono
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:38 PM
Can you just look at Brees/Flutie and see how many passes vs. average get knocked down?
That seems the easiest way to see if a good-great QB can overcome lack of height. The question I’m interested in, if Peyton Manning was 6’0″, would he have an inordinate number of balls batted down, or could his arm/head/forehead overcome that obstacle.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:38 PM
Middlebrooks at 3rd, Youk at 1st, Gonzalez in RF tonight, this will be interesting
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:39 PM
This is a well written post, but I had sex with your wife!
i almost said ‘you got me’ but i realized i don’t know what you look like.
could still be bad
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:39 PM
It can be both well written and obvious.
then use an AND, bropono
Yeah! And use more semi-colons too!
/;
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:39 PM
I still think Troy Smith is a good comparison for Russell Wilson. Though I expect Wilson to be way more succesful since he lacks the OSU stink that has plagued T Smith his entire career.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:42 PM
Is games started really the metric you want to look at though? It doesn’t exactly indicate performance by the short QBs. I think Wilson will get a shot in the NFL at starting though. Seapigeons will do anything to not start Tavaris.
I am also disappointed at the absence of Kurt Kittner on this list.
When looking at a bunch of guys who rarely start, QB’s outside the top 40 picks, I think it matters in indicating who tends to become starters or top backups. I can’t use actual passing stats because so few of the late round guys ever played more than 5 starts in the NFL.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:42 PM
Yeah! And use more semi-colons too!
/;
don’t forget exclamation points
/hey! that’s no fair, giving a guy a shot down there!
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:43 PM
That is scary. I wish Lin was playing CF, to help make up for it.
Fenway is an awesome park, because each OF position has a really unique/difficult feature. People talk about the Monster, but RF with that curving foul/HR line is really really hard. CF has the triangle, but honestly, it’s so deep it doesn’t come into play as much.
On the plus side, since Doubrant (LHP) is on the mound, should be a lot of righties for Baltimore.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:45 PM
WWOS, they’re in Baltimore though. RF much easier there.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:47 PM
1960′s: 6’1
1970′s: 6’2 1/2
1980′s: 6’2 1/2
1990′s: 6’3
2000′s: 6’4 1/2
Average heights of Super Bowl winning Quarterbacks.
Shortest are Cunty Theismann, Brees and Len Dawson.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:47 PM
The question I’m interested in, if Peyton Manning was 6’0″, would he have an inordinate number of balls batted down
Short guys are more promiscuous?
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:48 PM
Drew Brees.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:49 PM
I keep thinking Russell Wilson will be the second coming of Jeff Blake. Is Jeff Blake really 6’1 though? I always thought he was like 5’9
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:49 PM
You get your facts away from my narrative.
I guess it’s lucky this came on a road trip. Hopefully Sweeney can come back and is eligible some time during the Rays series.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:49 PM
What was the trend in the average height in QBs, in general, throughout the decades?
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:49 PM
I’m pretty sure you could mark the same trend with any position in any sport. Athletes are getting bigger.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:50 PM
Whew, you didn’t violate the Interracial QB Comparison Prohibition Treaty of 1993.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:51 PM
no, his eyes would have just been farther up on his 5 head, near his hair line, to make up for his shortness.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:52 PM
Dont think he’d be eligible until at least Sunday.. we might get some Scott Podsednik action!
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:52 PM
This is a clear version of the point I was trying to make.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:53 PM
Mainiac.
I see what you did there…
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:53 PM
I laughed…and now hope for a RexKramer visual rendition.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:54 PM
If Troy Smith is 6 Ft then Jamarcus Russell is 8 ft wide.
And I do not doubt that.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:55 PM
Whew, you didn’t violate the Interracial QB Comparison Prohibition Treaty of 1993.
I would say Doug Flutie but just from looking at Russell Wilson I would surmise that he is no more than half a scrappy grinder who just plays the game the right way
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:57 PM
russell wilson’s hair is horrible.
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:59 PM
If it don’t work out, Russell can come back to the Rockies.
All is forgiven, dude. We’ll leave a light on for ya.
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:00 PM
russell wilson’s hair is horrible.
damn! you try being black
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:01 PM
/tries
//fails
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:01 PM
Guys, thanks for the tips on golf shorts earlier. I should have ordered earlier. Next day shipping is a bitch.
Not to turn this into fashion-Tuesday, but what stores do the dudes here purchase shorts from?
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:03 PM
Not to turn this into fashion-Tuesday, but what stores do the dudes here purchase shorts from?
Big and tall shops. If I get “norm-sized” stuff, I look like a black John Stockton.
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:03 PM
is the use of “cunty” a Canadian thing or a Soused thing?
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:03 PM
But when I drafted Jared Lorenzen first overall in fantasy everyone laughed??
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:03 PM
the ones on the internet.
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:03 PM
i didn’t…i saluted. the hefty lefty is a legend.
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:05 PM
Not to turn this into fashion-Tuesday, but what stores do the dudes here purchase shorts from?
What kind of shorts?
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:07 PM
Simone: I know you’re right, Pee-wee, but…
Pee-wee: But what? Everyone I know has a big But. C’mon, Simone, let’s talk about your big “But”.
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:07 PM
mockumentaries.
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:07 PM
H+M.
/prepares for backlash
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:10 PM
Not to turn this into fashion-Tuesday, but what stores do the dudes here purchase shorts from?
TJ Maxx
/ducks and runs
//stops – admires expensive logos
///raises middle finger
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:13 PM
Macy’s. Good brand selection. TH and CK are the usual go-to.
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:13 PM
If we’re talking khaki shorts, then Old Navy. I’m too old to buy anything that is overly baggy or ‘chunky’ like you might find from American Eagle, A&F, or any of those other overpriced places.
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:14 PM
Is there still a 3 week process to change your gravatar around here? I just did.
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:17 PM
This was very funny.
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:17 PM
Is there still a 3 week process to change your gravatar around here? I just did.
It took around a month for mine to change from Cubs to SMU. But then when I changed from SMU to Astros at the start of the baseball season, it switched over right away.
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:24 PM
my dad works at a golf store, so mine are free-99.
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:28 PM
That’s how I feel. I like the stuff at JCrew but that skews younger too; also $60 for shorts seems like a tad much.
May 23rd, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Underrated post.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:58 AM
Must feel good to have nailed this back in may