Minnesota House Passes Stadium Bill Requiring More Money From Vikings, While Senate Bill Wants User Fees
The fight for a new stadium in Minnesota has passed the first step in the legislature, when the House passed a modified stadium financing proposal, 73-58, on Monday night. The House proposal includes a requirement that the Vikings contribute $105 million more than the previous $427 million private contribution pledged by the team, as part of a $975 million total package.
Lester Bagley, the Vikings spokesman, has already called the House Bill requiring further team contribution “problematic”, according to KSTP in Minneapolis/St. Paul.
The Senate is voting today on their own version, and you guessed it, this one is in a liquid state of fluidity. According to Tom Hauser, political reporter for KSTP-TV, the Senate modification calls for $25 million more in contribution from the Vikings, far less than the House proposal. The Senate Bill also seeks to have part of the public contribution paid through “user fees”, which could include fees on the sale or rental of suites, parking, and additional taxes on the sale of merchandise on the stadium. [UPDATE: The amendment with the user fees has now been withdrawn]
These two versions will have to be resolved, and a final bill will eventually be put forth. They show that the legislature is willing to compromise, but is not willing to just accept the terms lobbied by the Vikings and the NFL.
It could raise an interesting public relations battle between the NFL and the legislature. If the Minnesota legislature passes a final version that approves a stadium financing plan but requires more from the league and team, or imposes user fees to make up some of the difference is the NFL going to say no? If so, they will then be in a position where Minnesota has approved a stadium with significant public money pledged, and they will still opt to claim that they could get no stadium.
[photo via US Presswire]

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May 8th, 2012 at 4:10 PM
I hope the House version passes. Make the team pay. Public funding for stadiums is a huge mistake.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:13 PM
Trickle up motherfuckers need to lose their heads.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:14 PM
I hope the House version passes. Make the team pay. Public funding for stadiums is a huge mistake.
This all the way.
Reference Jones, Jerry. Dallas Cowboys
May 8th, 2012 at 4:15 PM
Pat Kessler is an excellent resource for everything going on so far.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:19 PM
This is what is so frustrating:
Rich Guy: I want to build a stadium here, but I only want to pay half.
State: Ok so who pays the other half?
Rich Guy: You guys
State: Ok so we generate our funds from people who will eventually have to pay to actually enter this stadium
Rich Guy: Sounds good!
May 8th, 2012 at 4:22 PM
how the shit did that guy get that axe through security?
May 8th, 2012 at 4:23 PM
This is what sucks about the NFL right now. They hold cities hostage. They basically say, “if we don’t get a new stadium we’re leaving…oh, and we need you to pay for at least half of it while we then raise the prices across the board.” I almost want them to say good riddance and enjoy LA when no one comes to the games.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:23 PM
Get yer $15 Cooooooors Light, heeeeeere!
May 8th, 2012 at 4:24 PM
The Vikings belong in Minnesota. They can’t move.
/Also, never tuck anything into jeans. It always looks horrible, no matter what.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:24 PM
Honestly, I love going to football games but I’ve never been to an NFL game. And at the rate things are going, I never will unless gifted tickets. I’d rather watch on my HD tv in the comfort of my own home and be able to follow all the games at once.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:26 PM
it’s like watching the greatest football you’ve ever seen played, one play at a time…with forty minutes in between…and frequent stoppages…and the longest halftime you’ll ever wait through.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:29 PM
My God, that’s worse than if it was in a fluid state of liquidity.
They always seem to fly by for me, but maybe that’s because I spend most of that time in line for the one of those goddamn individual pissers.
/Team Urinal Trough Forever
May 8th, 2012 at 4:30 PM
All of this. I’m not renewing my season tickets for the Falcons because of the little one at home, and I’ll enjoy the games even more on TV. The game day atmosphere for NFL games can’t hold a candle to college.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:30 PM
Honestly, I love going to football games but I’ve never been to an NFL game. And at the rate things are going, I never will unless gifted tickets. I’d rather watch on my HD tv in the comfort of my own home and be able to follow all the games at once.
its not worth it at this point to go. too expensive to eat, drink, park, etc. i only go if its company tickets. otherwise, piss off overpriced NFL everything!
May 8th, 2012 at 4:30 PM
not gonna lie, expected you to say “they fly by for me, but maybe that’s because im not watching the browns.”
May 8th, 2012 at 4:30 PM
Aaaaand there it is.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:31 PM
His wife is a very large woman if you catch my drift.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:31 PM
Hamilton County, Ohio (or Kentucky if you’re spence) is screwed to the point of cutting textbook purchases for schools becoasue of Paul Brown Stafium. Plus, the county’s on the hook for any upgrades to the facility (Mike Brown felt generous and didn’t make them chip in for the new scoreboard).
May 8th, 2012 at 4:31 PM
i don’t catch your drift…please spell it out like im a child.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:32 PM
My favorite sports teams already got their new tax payer funded stadiums. So therefore I find this issue boring and pedantic.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:32 PM
ATL has pretty affordable stuff as far as parking and whatnot, but it still adds up. For one game, 3 beers and parking you’ll pay $60 at the bare minimum per person.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:32 PM
Her hatchet wound harbored his hatchet.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:32 PM
I’m sure that’s true, but the quality of play in college can’t hold a candle to the NFL.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:33 PM
Yep, footballi is what HDTV was made for. I get a better view, more comfortable seats, and cheap food and beer.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:33 PM
That’s so fucked up. But again, we get what we vote for, and if people voted for it so be it. I don’t blame the owners for asking for the money. I blame the government for giving it to them.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:33 PM
you know, instead of carving out a case made of his wife, im sure he could’ve just bought one and notified security prior to the game.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:34 PM
Of course, but if I’m paying X amount of $$ for a great game day experience and I get a shitty one, that sucks. We went to a game at FedEx field when Atlanta played them years ago and the atmosphere was so shitty, yet you were paying premium prices.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:34 PM
Her hatchet wound harbored his hatchet.
nice alliteration
May 8th, 2012 at 4:35 PM
What, the truth?
May 8th, 2012 at 4:36 PM
Well, OK. That too.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:37 PM
NDub has never seen a titty, though.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:39 PM
/Team Urinal Trough Forever
Gerard?
May 8th, 2012 at 4:41 PM
it’s kinda true tho…it’s much easier to root for mercenaries who choose to play for your team over mercenaries that can’t wait to get out.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:41 PM
MS, that video is horrifying but it cannot change the fact that individual pissers are the worst thing to happen to sporting events since fans stopped wearing handlebar moustaches and bowler hats.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:41 PM
I love Les Miles.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:42 PM
cosign.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:44 PM
I agree, but then it goes back to what you said earlier about the NFL holding them hostage. it’s pretty fucked up really. the NFL abuses their power because they can, and local governments either give in and pay for and get bitched at. or let the team go and get bitched at for letting all the revenue go.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:44 PM
This is what sucks about the NFL right now.
Not just the NFL.
The new suitor for the Phoenix Coyotes is looking at a sweatheart deal from the City of Glendale.
The Oilers owner (one of the richest men in Canada) has pledged a total $100 million* against a total estimated price of $425 million.
*to be paid over 30 years
May 8th, 2012 at 4:45 PM
MS, that video is horrifying but it cannot change the fact that individual pissers are the worst thing to happen to sporting events since fans stopped wearing handlebar moustaches and bowler hats.
I don’t disagree. Everyone has to have their space these days. Everyone is insecure. The Victorians got nothing on modern society when it comes to an aloof attitude to prudeness and insecurity.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:45 PM
Since it’s hockey won’t they just laugh at him?
May 8th, 2012 at 4:46 PM
If you can’t look another man in the eye and shout, “GO [TEAM]!”, you’re really no man at all.
/Team 360° Urinal Trough Forever
May 8th, 2012 at 4:46 PM
Went to my one and only NASCAR race at Darlington. They had troughs and porta johns. We got there thursday. The race was postponed from Saturday night to Sunday. The cleaning crews just gave up on Friday.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:47 PM
Since it’s hockey won’t they just laugh at him?
“According to long-time Glendale city councilor Phil Lieberman, the terms of the deal being given to Jamison — who has partners, apparently, but wouldn’t name them — basically see him guaranteed $306 million in management fees for Jobing.com Arena over the next 21 years, or an average of $14.6 million a year. A large chunk of that money is front-end loaded, with Glendale on the hook for $92 million over the next five years.”
“The management fee seems like a pretty good deal for them, revenue sharing makes it better. Nearby University of Phoenix Stadium, home to the Arizona Cardinals of the NFL, carries a $9.2-million management fee annually.”
Link.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:47 PM
We had those in elementary school. Those and the floor length deals.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:49 PM
/team trough pisser
May 8th, 2012 at 4:49 PM
Fenway had these before the refurb. God that place was a dump.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:50 PM
God that place was a dump.
I read this at first as “God that was a good place to take a dump.”
May 8th, 2012 at 4:50 PM
The Horseshoe used to have them. I had a roommate who just couldn’t do it. He would just give up and leave the stadium, which barred reentry. Did the same thing at bars. Such a pussy.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:51 PM
not a mistake for us!
/marlins management
May 8th, 2012 at 4:52 PM
Went to my one and only NASCAR race at Darlington. They had troughs and porta johns. We got there thursday. The race was postponed from Saturday night to Sunday. The cleaning crews just gave up on Friday.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:53 PM
ESPN’s First Take will now just be the Skip and Steven A. debate show
May 8th, 2012 at 4:53 PM
Old Mile High had the troughs and waits were minimal; SportsVesco has the pissers and you could starve to death in one of those lines. The ladies get in and out faster, for crissakes.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:53 PM
I’ve been sitting here for 10 minutes trying to remember where I used those before. thanks for refreshing my memory.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:55 PM
So not only is Florida full of horrible people, but they’re apparently all working at stadiums or arenas.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:56 PM
/shoots self in ear drums
May 8th, 2012 at 4:57 PM
Troughs are the most efficient means of making it quick for men to relieve themselves. More, not less, troughs in my book.
May 8th, 2012 at 4:57 PM
/vomits
May 8th, 2012 at 4:59 PM
BITCH, DON’T BE BRINGING THAT PUNK ASS SHIT IN HERE. Oops, sorry, wrong post.
The deal presented before the state legislature was good but what is ridiculous is to think that no one needs to pay state money for a private venture. Look at some great public buildings that are used by public people for private businesses like museums, theaters, etc. This is a good deal for the state and us citizens of Minnesota.
Great post, Lisk.
/obligatory
May 8th, 2012 at 5:00 PM
I need to be hit by a bus before this happens. You just know ESPN will try and “synergize” this across platforms/media.
Were they stainless steel? I recall porcelain troughs (maybe that was Cooper Stadium).
/pissing memories
May 8th, 2012 at 5:01 PM
that’s like 3 too many people who have referenced 1st take today.
if you ignore it, it will go away, guys.
funny, i feel the same way about some commenters
May 8th, 2012 at 5:02 PM
I’m not sure Skip, Smith, and producer Jamie Horowitz are intelligent enough to know what it actually means to debate. Jay Crawford is the perfect host because he’s a punching bag for Skip. There’s a reason he keeps the job and good people like Dana Jacobsen were sent to other parts of ESPN: Crawford has no balls and he’s the perfect puppet and yes man. Crawford is so terrible that he should be hosting some shitty reality show or local closed circuit tv.
May 8th, 2012 at 5:03 PM
You could just ban them.
/just saying
May 8th, 2012 at 5:03 PM
That’s a bit unfair. Nobody is supportive of this dungheap.
Or it will grow. It grew.
May 8th, 2012 at 5:03 PM
I’ll be avoiding the Verizon Center. Mice droppings? Fun times.
May 8th, 2012 at 5:05 PM
I would like to think it is amazing that First Take does so well and has high ratings…but then i read people on Twitter and realize how fucking stupid so many sports fans are and how lazy they are when it comes to forming opinions.
May 8th, 2012 at 5:05 PM
Gilbert Arenas thinks that is totally acceptable
/one Blatche shoe filled with dog turds
May 8th, 2012 at 5:06 PM
if it weren’t for Tebow and LeBron, First Take would have been taken off the air by now.
May 8th, 2012 at 5:06 PM
Pretty much this. Their demo doesn’t include die hard sports people. It includes my dad, someone who doesn’t spend too much time online.
May 8th, 2012 at 5:06 PM
Way too many smiles from the EIC in the comments. Somebody got laid last night.
May 8th, 2012 at 5:08 PM
I love to read the responses Skip gets on twitter..many suggesting to go suck a body part of Tebow..to go play in traffic..to just die.. Clever we are not!
May 8th, 2012 at 5:09 PM
We had those in elementary school. Those and the floor length deals.
we had this kid in elementary who pulled his pants down to his ankles and hoisted his shirt up to pee.
its a hilarious bit to do if your drunk and dont care.
May 8th, 2012 at 5:10 PM
You went to school with Spencer?
May 8th, 2012 at 5:13 PM
If you have behind-the-bar privileges at your local watering hole, take a look inside their soda/pop gun holsters. You’ll see things you never thought sugar and yeast could do.
May 8th, 2012 at 5:16 PM
Kitchen Impossible!
May 8th, 2012 at 5:24 PM
we had this kid in elementary who pulled his pants down to his ankles and hoisted his shirt up to pee.
I think I did that until kindergarten.