John Harbaugh Says That Bill Belichick’s Super Bowls Are “Stained” Because of Spygate
John Harbaugh went on 98 Rock in Baltimore this morning to talk some football. The topic of the Saints Bounty Scandal came up, and Harbaugh also discussed the Patriots’ legacy after Spygate, and whether cheating is worth it if you gain an advantage.
What happens, even the thing in New England, no matter whether those things had any impact on whether they won their championships or not, they got asterisks now. It’s been stained.
Harbaugh went on to say that you have to find a way to work within the rules and gain an advantage, but that cheating is not worth it because you get discredited.
I actually don’t think Harbaugh was saying that the videotaping had a major impact, but rather is expressing an opinion that having something like this stains accomplishment, whether it ultimately had an impact or not, and is therefore not worth it. I have no problem with that opinion. Just before the AFC championship, Harbaugh called Belichick “the greatest coach in our league right now.” I don’t see any inconsistency in what he said then and now.
Given that Baltimore and New England are two of the powers in the AFC and just met in the championship game, though, I expect it to get major play. I’m sure Boston websites and radio will take it in its proper context.
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May 1st, 2012 at 11:13 AM
I wish Belichick had video taped the Giants this year.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:13 AM
May 1st, 2012 at 11:15 AM
He’s sorta right, though. It doesn’t matter if they had a big effect or none at all. They will always be tied to one another, especially if the Pats never win another one.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:16 AM
Huh, something said by someone affiliated with the Ravens is going to get blown out of proportion. Go figure.
I don’t think Spygate won the Pats any Super Bowls, but I agree with what Harbaugh said.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:17 AM
GOAT.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:17 AM
He says it’s ‘not worth it’ because ‘stained’ in the eyes of many, no surprise the media took it and ran with it as if his words were different. BB and John are tight, Bill recommended him for the Ravens job.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Excited* to see the first blowhard who elevates this to some Days of Our Lives dramatization.
/glares at PFT
*not really excited
May 1st, 2012 at 11:20 AM
belichick continuing to fuck the browns over…god damn, if i didn’t love him i’d hate him.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:20 AM
I can’t believe we’re still talking about fucking spygate.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Wanna know what I think is stained? Harbaugh’s tighty whities.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:20 AM
dont have a link, but caught the exchange a few minutes ago on the kitchen tv.
in short; harbaugh was asked about the bounty program. he said the saints super bowl should have an asterisk next to it, like the spygate patriot teams.
espn brings in bruschi to comment, and inshort he goes off on how he earned the rings, belichick vouched for harbaugh to get the ravens job, then walks off the set before the segment was over. the espn anchor just laughed it off. pretty weak.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:21 AM
would you rather we discuss that mi6 spy found in a duffel bag?
spyduffel.
SPY DUFFY.
MIND = BLOWN
May 1st, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Just like Baltimore’s Super Bowl title is tainted by having Trent Dilfer at QB?
May 1st, 2012 at 11:22 AM
that SB is tainted by having a murderer play MLB.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:22 AM
Awesome. I hope he’s REALLY MAD.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Good for Tedy
May 1st, 2012 at 11:24 AM
bruschi’s repsonse was ridiculous. shame on the anchor ( the indian guy) not calling him on not answering his question was b.s. bruschi spouting off, then hitting the desk and walking off was a joke.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:24 AM
also, baltimore’s SB is tainted by the fact they stole their team.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Be fair now.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Go on…
May 1st, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Taint
May 1st, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Dude seems like a tool of the lowest order. God ESPN hires some of the worst people. It’s as if they and the NFLN have a contest of who can hire the biggest douchebag.
/NFLN is the clubhouse leader with Deion.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Bruschi not being smart enough to understand the context and point of Harbaugh’s comments is not surprising.
Neither is ESPN bringing him on and probably encouraging him to not understand.
Hoorah TV.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:25 AM
What was the question?
May 1st, 2012 at 11:26 AM
they’re stained because Charlie Cheeseburger Weis dripped grease on them.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:26 AM
ESPN is showing Rasslin’ interviews now?
May 1st, 2012 at 11:26 AM
bruschi probably couldn’t think of what to say cuz he was thinking of his family…you know, the one that means so much to him he was inspired to return to playing football after having a stroke?
May 1st, 2012 at 11:26 AM
would you rather we discuss that mi6 spy found in a duffel bag?
That’s not sports related. Stop ruing my blog reading experience!
/wwrng
May 1st, 2012 at 11:27 AM
I really could have done without Bruschi becoming an analyst on ESPN. I liked him a lot more before that.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:27 AM
I didnt see it, but did Harbaugh really say both teams SHOULD have asterisks? That’s different then what this post is about.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:27 AM
BTW, why watch non-live sports ESPN?
May 1st, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Dude seems like a tool of the lowest order. God ESPN hires some of the worst people. It’s as if they and the NFLN have a contest of who can hire the biggest douchebag.
/NFLN is the clubhouse leader with Deion.
It was really fun to watch. he totally ignored the anchor’s question, took it personally, and talked about he earned his three rings. It’s funny to the word “analyst” under the names of guys like bruschi, sanders, sapp, and edwards.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:28 AM
if that’s not sports related, then why did the browns have one of their first rounders taken away?
oh you mean they weren’t forced to take a 28 year old quarterback in the first round? shit snacks.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Maybe Tedy just really wanted to get his applesauce.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:29 AM
this just in…NFLN has come to terms with rae carruth.
and now this just in…ESPN has come to terms with OJ.
when reached for comment, both new hires responded “how’d you get this number?”
/journalism
May 1st, 2012 at 11:29 AM
I don’t even watch CFB Live anymore save for a random episode that I come across. ESPN is great for live events, but other than that it’s a hot mess of shit.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Don’t forget the hole in his heart and the temporary paralysis!
May 1st, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Dude seems like a tool of the lowest order. God ESPN hires some of the worst people. It’s as if they and the NFLN have a contest of who can hire the biggest douchebag.
/NFLN is the clubhouse leader with Deion.
the stabbing asshole, mike irvin, kicks deion out of the clubhouse.
i just try not to watch espn anymore, it is just so bad.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:34 AM
oh you mean they weren’t forced to take a 28 year old quarterback in the first round? shit snacks.
Speaking of Cleveland, there was a breaking news flash on CNN.com saying that the FBI arrested 5-6 people who are accused of trying to blow up a bridge near Cleveland. My question is, if they had succeeded in blowing up the bridge, would anyone be able to tell the difference.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:34 AM
TBL taking liberties with a headline? Whaaaaaat? I thought this was a place of high journalistic standards.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Hmmm, the Yardwork that is NOT Yardwork disappeared.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Bet John Harbaugh would like to have just one “stained” Super Bowl.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:35 AM
It was just something he said on the radio in Baltimore this morning. And I only know that because Lisk told me. (see the quote above, seems as Lisk interprets)
It’s a good bet that some ESPN producer had this handed to him and immediately called up Bruschi to see if he could make good TV out of it.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:35 AM
This whole “thing” (Harbaugh says this, Bruschi says that) feels manufactured. I can’t wait for when Vince McMahon takes over ESPN.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Wait TBL is a place with high journalistic standards. Liam wrote this post.
Great post Liskanity.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:35 AM
st. bear – it’s coming back. patience.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:36 AM
Liam wrote this post.
There a new writer? With a name like Liam, perhaps he got confused on which sort of football he was supposed to be writing about.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:36 AM
If the Eagles got a “stained” Super Bowl, I’d still get shitfaced at the resultant parade.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:36 AM
i dunno…lets see what my girl, fran has to say about it.
im not sure what that has to do with the bomb plot, but ill be damned if it wasn’t said sexy as shit. whisper sweet CIA nothings into my ear, fran.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:37 AM
What are you talking about? The title is basically his quote.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:37 AM
also, why was this the target?
it’s a good looking bridge with nice scenery. and how would i get to windmill lakes and boulder creek golf courses*?
*i kid, obviously…there are alternate routes
May 1st, 2012 at 11:38 AM
I got nothing but time.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:38 AM
whisper sweet CIA nothings into my ear, fran.
You can have Fran. I remain a devotee of Ms. Dana Perino.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Ah, so predictable.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:38 AM
At that point Hannah Storm’s kinky getups will fit right in
May 1st, 2012 at 11:38 AM
It’s a good bet that some ESPN producer had this handed to him and immediately called up Bruschi to see if he could make good TV out of it.
That’s really what it looked like; patriots jab, let’s bring in bruschi to respond. manufactured or not, bruschi came off like a bitter ex-player than an “analyst” not surprising i guess.
team dilfer.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:38 AM
trying to blow up a bridge near Cleveland. My question is, if they had succeeded in blowing up the bridge, would anyone be able to tell the difference.
damn, remember when that minneapolis bridge collapsed? that was crazy
May 1st, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Was it the I-90 bridge? Cause they could have just that that collapse on its own. Stupid terrorists.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Ohhhh. That’s why it didn’t seem as troll-y as I expected a J-Mac post about BB.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:39 AM
damn, remember when that minneapolis bridge collapsed? that was crazy
Are you saying terrorists did that and we were told it was a collapse?
/conspiracy’d
May 1st, 2012 at 11:40 AM
we’ve been across this un-exploded bridge before…i respect your taste and have no criticism.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:40 AM
It’s getting harder and harder to derive any joy from sports when soap opera bullshit takes up most of the bandwidth.
I no longer watch ESPN, but it’s hard to avoid their created “drama” when blogs and general retards continue to beat ESPN’s shit to death.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:41 AM
No, the government did it and told us it was the terrorists.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:41 AM
na…i think that one’s getting replaced/fixed, but i rarely drive on it and don’t pay attention so have no idea.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:41 AM
I can’t wait for when Vince McMahon takes over ESPN.
I think I hear his music playing
May 1st, 2012 at 11:42 AM
It’s a big echo chamber. Mike and Mike set the editorial tone in the morning, and it’s carried through the programming all day.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Sounds like a dirty job for Mike Rowe.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Ravens-Pats should replace Colts-Pats as a rivalry. Out of all the teams (Steelers, Colts, Ravens) the Pats have gone to war with over the past decade, it seems like Baltimore has the most heartbreaking or close or even bullshit losses.
After the ridiculous game in 2007 to keep the undefeated season alive (some penalties/drops/calls that swung a game the Pats should have lost) and last year’s playoff game, I’m surprised most of Baltimore doesn’t just go fetal position when the two teams play.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:43 AM
we’ve been across this un-exploded bridge before…i respect your taste and have no criticism.
I know. I just feel that every time you mention Fran Townsend I have to include a mention of Dana Perino so that she gets equal appreciation.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Living in Cleveland will make you want to blow up Cleveland.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:44 AM
i prefer to include the team that actually won super bowls over that time period…the steelers. the ravens/steelers will always be a better rivalry than something involving a team who’s fans only started paying attention in 2001.
/unnecessary insult
May 1st, 2012 at 11:44 AM
OT: MLBN reports Evan Longoria will miss 6 to 8 weeks with a left hamstring injury. Yikes.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:44 AM
After the ridiculous game in 2007 to keep the undefeated season alive (some penalties/drops/calls that swung a game the Pats should have lost) and last year’s playoff game, I’m surprised most of Baltimore doesn’t just go fetal position when the two teams play
bart scott picking up the flag and launching it awesome.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Speaking of bridges… road trip to Pittsburgh this weekend!
May 1st, 2012 at 11:45 AM
No, the government did it and told us it was the terrorists.
I knew it! And I bet this is connected to the freaky murals in Denver International Airport somehow too.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:45 AM
You can have Fran. I remain a devotee of Ms. Dana Perino.
we’ve been across this un-exploded bridge before…i respect your taste and have no criticism.
it begins and ends with erin burnett. perino is too severe and hairspray’d
/team blue eye’d brunette with a long neck
May 1st, 2012 at 11:46 AM
!!!!
May 1st, 2012 at 11:46 AM
growing up in pittsburgh will make you think it’s completely rational to perform a homosexual act in order to see something heterosexual. appalachian logic.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:46 AM
it begins and ends with erin burnett. perino is too severe and hairspray’d
Burnett is not a politician. You’re missing the theme here vez.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Do Steelers fans still go apeshit over playing the Patriots, or did the two SBs erase the home AFC-CG losses?
May 1st, 2012 at 11:47 AM
John Harbaugh complaining? Why I never.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:48 AM
I no longer watch ESPN, but it’s hard to avoid their created “drama” when blogs and general retards continue to beat ESPN’s shit to death.
It’s a big echo chamber. Mike and Mike set the editorial tone in the morning, and it’s carried through the programming all day.
if i had a nickel for everytime times i’ve overheard meatball sports conversations….i’d have a lot of nickels. have to believe it’s the espn influence
May 1st, 2012 at 11:49 AM
It was the Rt 82 bridge in Sagamore, not actually a major artery or anything. These 5 clowns sound pretty dumb but whatever. Good for the feds.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Funny. When I was there, two of my guy friends kissed each other in order to see two girls make out. Never fully understood the logic.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:49 AM
They did beat the shit out of the Pats in New England in the 2009 playoffs.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:49 AM
steelers fans go apeshit over seeing another car with a steelers “stairway to seven” bumper sticker that covers an entire back window so of course they go apeshit over an actual game.
then again, considering the population of pittsburgh are barely a step up on the evolutionary ladder from apes, i think the term “apeshit” might be deemed offensive.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Apeshit in a exciting way because the two better teams in the league are playing, or freaking out because they wax our asses at home all the time? I say both.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:51 AM
Is WWOS friends with coop or does this kind of thing happen a lot in Pittsburgh?!
May 1st, 2012 at 11:51 AM
perino was a press bitch to a hardy-har-har president. wait, you’re right, she was a politician
May 1st, 2012 at 11:51 AM
i remember that game because joe flacco went 4-10 and was the “winning QB.”
May 1st, 2012 at 11:51 AM
Funny. When I was there, two of my guy friends kissed each other in order to see two girls make out. Never fully understood the logic.
You’re friends with coop?
May 1st, 2012 at 11:51 AM
This site has the FBA affadavit. The ringleader came from Bloomington, IND, so I blame them.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:51 AM
Beat me to it CJ.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Funny. When I was there, two of my guy friends kissed each other in order to see two girls make out. Never fully understood the logic.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:52 AM
With a team that wasn’t good enough to get anywhere. The Pats have stopped them in a couple years they had a chance to really advance, IIRC. It’s a fun rivalry in that it’s not one-sided by any means, but there have certainly been some exceptionally painful losses by Baltimore.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Is WWOS friends with coop or does this kind of thing happen a lot in Pittsburgh?!
every minute of every hour of every day
May 1st, 2012 at 11:54 AM
The latter. Or the former if you’re moleman, who doesn’t appear to know the difference.
Those two SBs must take some of the sting out though. Pats fans are only a few more championship-less seasons from forgetting 2001-2004 and going catatonic every time they see Eli Manning.
/I’m pretty much there already
May 1st, 2012 at 11:55 AM
Where’s the sentence about the big purple dick we shoved up New England’s ass at home in 2009? Huh.
But seriously, Ravens-Steelers is the best rivalry in the NFL, has been for some time and will be for the forseeable future.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:56 AM
My uncle is gay if that means anything to your theory.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:56 AM
i mean, with heartbreak like that, why do you even bother supporting the team anymore? jeez…it must be so rough watching your perennial playoff team go really far in the playoffs. how do you deal with the pain man?
May 1st, 2012 at 11:56 AM
I can’t take a football team that wears purple seriously.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:57 AM
Wow, what a small world.
WWOs is friends with Coop, and Coop is Mantis’s uncle.
/mindsplosion
May 1st, 2012 at 11:57 AM
/quietly backs out of room
//closes door
May 1st, 2012 at 11:57 AM
Don’t forget the hole in his heart
“There’s a hole in my heart that can only be filled by you.”
/now that song’s stuck in your heads too.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Such an easy rhetoric, but not necessarily true. It’s a fix man… you always need more, and the closer you get to it, the more you want it.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:59 AM
2001 stung, but I knew the Pats would win in Pittsburgh during 2004. They were a fraudier 15-1 team than this years Packers.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:59 AM
I’m not entirely sure if I should laugh. I’m thinking no…
May 1st, 2012 at 12:01 PM
thanks for telling a homeless football fan how hard it is to live on a million dollas per year, WWOS.
May 1st, 2012 at 12:01 PM
/Simmons
May 1st, 2012 at 12:01 PM
You might be the only one who thought that. The two reasons I had such a big complex against Steelers fans were
1) 2001 Hines Ward not giving the Pats any credit after the won the SB
2) Idiots at Mineo’s and Hemingway’s who kept saying how much better the Steelers were in 2004(?), when they beat the Pats in the regular season (who were missing Corey Dillon that game) and that there was NO way they could lose to them in the playoffs)
May 1st, 2012 at 12:02 PM
You’re the MikeNYC of sports fans.
May 1st, 2012 at 12:03 PM
So I’m basically a sports Mitt Romney? Ouch.
/counts Cadillacs
May 1st, 2012 at 12:03 PM
I have an absurdly dark sense of humor. Plus, I drink a lot.
May 1st, 2012 at 12:07 PM
The day before the championship game, my study hall has a “predict the score and winner challenge.” I was the only one who had NE winning. I won a pound of candy. Suck it, homerism.
May 1st, 2012 at 12:13 PM
oh no…romney’s been rich for a long ass time. you’re more like a guy who participated in occupy wall street movement, won the lottery and then refused to pay more than 15% in cap gains tax.
/i keed
May 1st, 2012 at 12:14 PM
Yup, its been over 10 minutes and it’s still in my head. Fuck you.
May 1st, 2012 at 12:28 PM
Dude seems like a tool of the lowest order. God ESPN hires some of the worst people. It’s as if they and the NFLN have a contest of who can hire the biggest douchebag.
May 1st, 2012 at 12:28 PM
nice hypertext fail on my part
May 1st, 2012 at 12:36 PM
wow, that’s a beautiful bridge. fuck terrorists.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:31 PM
Did Bellicheck watch the videotape of his Pats getting spanked like a little baby by the Giants?
May 1st, 2012 at 5:27 PM
Love Harbaugh, but that was stupid. He will feel that way until he wins a Super Bowl, which will likely be never. Bellichick is just better.