BCS Officials Are Well on Their Way to Screwing up a 4-team Playoff
Remember how excited we were when it became clear college football was finally going to join the 21st century and put together a playoff? College football has the worst postseason in sports, but finally, that is going to change!
But now that USA Today has revealed the potential playoff formats, the brakes have been pumped on some of the excitement:
As laid out in the BCS summary, a more standard four-team playoff would be seeded and could:
• Fold entirely into existing bowls.
• Stage the semifinals and title game at neutral sites selected through a bidding process. A bowl or bowls could buy in, hosting the games atop their own annual events.
• Place semifinals in bowls, bidding out the championship site.
• Or play semifinals at campus sites, again bidding out the title game.
Also still to be worked out is the team-selection process. Will the BCS let its mathematical rankings — melding polls and computer ratings — determine who makes a four-team playoff cut? Will it change that formula? Could it go to a selection committee instead?
What the …?
How difficult is this, you money grubbing fools – top four teams in the “BCS Formula” (which needs to be tweaked, but that’s another story) are seeded 1-4. The No. 1 team plays No. 4 team at a neutral site (Fiesta Bowl – but the next year it could be the Sugar, it matters not) and No. 2 plays No. 3 (Orange Bowl?). Then the winners square off for the title (Sugar Bowl? Rose Bowl?). Schools were willing to destroy rivalries due to conference realignment in a cash grab. Don’t play the “history” bullshit card with the bowl games when everyone knows the bowls are simply a cash grab.

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April 4th, 2012 at 1:31 PM
What…wait…no. NO NO NO. The Big 10 and the Pac 12 are going to fuck this up. The BCS is actually not the villain this time.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:31 PM
Ann Arbor’s a bit cold and snowy on January 1.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:31 PM
Rotate the semi-final games between BCS sites. Add the Cotton Bowl as a BCS game. Have the title game as an on-top championship game just like it is now so somebody gets two bowls. Done. I’m going on break.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:32 PM
But now that USA Today has revealed the potential playoff formats,
USA Today breaking news? Jarring.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:33 PM
Fuck Jerry Jones right in the pants.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:33 PM
Top 4 at the end of the season (day after conf. title games) play in the bowls on Jan. 1 and then a week later play for the title. Problem solved.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:34 PM
Reinstate the old bowl system.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:34 PM
Lets gets let Nick, Lane, Urban and Les play each year.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:35 PM
We want team speed and skill on the field, so that means OSU will have to sit this one out.
/stokes fire
April 4th, 2012 at 1:35 PM
cash grab
April 4th, 2012 at 1:36 PM
That’s a finely crafted OSU education quality sentence right there.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:36 PM
I really hate discussing the BCS.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:37 PM
I’m confused as to why the BCS is getting the blame here and not the B10 and P12. TBL, care to explain? It’s obvious that the hold up for a plus one of some kind are those two leagues and no one else.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:37 PM
I like the BCS.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:39 PM
I mean, I don’t even really know what all the post above means because I just don’t care anymore.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:42 PM
How difficult is this, you money grubbing fools –
What does USA Today think about this comment?
April 4th, 2012 at 1:43 PM
So?
April 4th, 2012 at 1:45 PM
Oh and fuck neutral sites.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:45 PM
What is shocking to me is that when asked to come up with a solution to a problem, a large group of diverse individuals with different interests makes it overly complicated.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:46 PM
To be fair, it’s only FBS college football that has the worst postseason in sports, and the Mad Hatter has to shoulder most of the blame for that this past season.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:48 PM
You didnt mention the “Rose Bowl” plan, where the top 4 teams play in semis, UNLESS a Pac10/Big10 team is in the top 4 in which case that team/teams play in the Rose Bowl and the next highest team/teams play in the semifinal games. Then the championship matchup is selected after the THREE “semifinal” games are played.
Worst. Idea. Ever.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:48 PM
Give Les a year’s lead time on the others and he might could come up with an offensive game plan.
/ Jefferson’d
April 4th, 2012 at 1:48 PM
Can’t wait the outrage over team #5 getting anally raped out of their opportunity to play for a championship.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:50 PM
I am so tired of the BCS, bowls, college presidents, etc. screwing up the nation’s second most popular sport. This is is not hard, should have been done years ago, and won’t be because of the 100 people in this country who are rich because of it.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:50 PM
link?
April 4th, 2012 at 1:51 PM
Don’t worry…there are 10 and 12 team scenarios too.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:52 PM
So do I.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:52 PM
Is there any way to guarantee that Lane Kiffin gets that No. 5 spot?
April 4th, 2012 at 1:55 PM
Maybe, but it has the best regular season
April 4th, 2012 at 1:57 PM
Frozen Four this weekend.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:58 PM
I don’t like the BCS, but you can’t deny it’s helped CFB grow as a sport. It can still be used, too. All they need to do is have a 4-team playoff rather than a two teamer. That way any team that get’s left out will have to be honest with themselves and say they could have done more. Yes, someone will always be left out, but there aren’t ever 5 or more teams worthy of playing for a title. There just aren’t. Play the three playoff games in the BCS bowl sites and have them rotate each year for the title game. The higher seeded teams get to play in their conferences affiliated bowls, and in the case of a 2011-type of scenario happening, the second team from the conference accepts that they don’t get to choose their bowl. So if Alabama plays Ok St, they’d play in the Sugar and LSU-Stanford could play in the Cotton or the Fiesta. Then the shitty B10 and P12 can have their precious Rose Bowl.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:58 PM
Go Bulldogs.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:58 PM
At least it was analyzed without bias.
It is my understanding, after actually reading the article, that there are four options, though how much backing each has I do not know:
1) Existing BCS, with modifications to how teams qualify, when games are played, etc.
2) Existing BCS, with a +1 game afterward.
3) 4-team event, with varying methods of determining where the games are played
4) 4-team event, with B10/P12 clusterfuck of a third game Rose Bowl if one or two teams from the B10/P12 end up in the top four. Then there are three games and after those are over, two teams are selected. That third winner? Fuck them! S-T-U-P-I-D.
If it’s from the same document as the four championship ideas, those are non-championship scenarios for determining good match-ups for the teams not vying for the title.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:59 PM
College basketball can’t pick 68 without some people freaking the fuck out.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:00 PM
Off topic, but Cal issued another cryptic tweet referencing an even more cryptic blog post confirming he is staying at UK:
https://twitter.com/#!/UKCoachCalipari/status/187599605591060480
April 4th, 2012 at 2:01 PM
I don’t remember this at all.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:02 PM
The Rose Bowl’s awesome
April 4th, 2012 at 2:02 PM
I picked up on that after re-reading it…but I figured nobody clicks the links anyway… especially someone more concerned about their upcoming honey crop.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:03 PM
I tend to post in chunks. The bees are kind of an all-or-nothing chore and right now they’re pretty docile.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:03 PM
I think “we” was meant in the TBL “we” way.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:03 PM
I am so tired of the BCS, bowls, college presidents, etc. screwing up the nation’s second most popular sport. This is is not hard, should have been done years ago, and won’t be because of the 100 people in this country who are rich because of it.
but no matter the postseason setup–love it or hate it–how much does it affect your overall love of cfb?
do the folks who hate the current way not watch on saturdays, tailgate, buy merch? do the ones that think it’s fine as is watch more, buy more?
wankathon is all this is
April 4th, 2012 at 2:03 PM
Let me get that for you.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:04 PM
I’m sure it’s badass, and if the B10 and P12 would rather have that then a shot at the national title, let them leave the BCS and have at it. I’d like to see how that works for them. But fucking over a plus-one, which would be really good for the sport, because the thought of randomly not having your Rose Bowl see USC wax some B10 team is a bit silly to me.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:05 PM
You mean this?
April 4th, 2012 at 2:05 PM
Off topic, but Cal issued another cryptic tweet referencing an even more cryptic blog post confirming he is staying at UK:
https://twitter.com/#!/UKCoachCalipari/status/187599605591060480
has anyone actually recognized the coaching job caliari did, or has all the post-title buzz been about vacated titles, lots o talent, one and done and where he’s going next?
he did a great coaching job getting young guys with a foot out the door play great defense and share the ball
April 4th, 2012 at 2:07 PM
he did a great coaching job getting young guys with a foot out the door play great defense and share the ball
This is a great point. That team was exciting to watch. They pushed the ball, shared the ball and gave a crap. Look at other teams with big time recruits that failed miserably (UConn) — getting the players there is half the battle. But the other half is more important.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:09 PM
Oh…oh Parrish. Please don’t tell me you just went to the ratings(!) argument. Besides, it only enhances my argument. Game of the Century….that ended up meaning nothing….but the regular season is the playoff!
April 4th, 2012 at 2:10 PM
He has always been one of the best defensive coaches in college basketball. And, like you said, the way he can manage egos and immaturity is a hard thing to do, and he does it as well as anyone.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:11 PM
That game might have been boring to you, but don’t cite it as an example of the BCS sucking. Those were the two best teams in the nation and they played twice. I can handle that all day.
It is. The exception proves the rule. Ask OKST if the regular season was a playoff.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:13 PM
husker you are a grea target audience for my question….how much more could you love cfb if they did exactly what you wanted for the postseason? not muhc i’d guess.
are you looking for a system that gives us a true national champ, beyond argument, or are you looking for a fair way to get the most deserving teams a shot at winning the title, which reduces any arguments? we all agree actual games should mean more than rankings–settle it on the field, but sicne there’s not much room for you to like cfb more, would a better postseason make casual observers like it more?
running off at the fingers, but definitely curious
April 4th, 2012 at 2:14 PM
So losing a game meant it was a playoff for them but losing a game wasn’t a playoff for Alabama…it’s a weak talking point and in reality for the top teams it isn’t a good playoff since most of their wins are blowouts
April 4th, 2012 at 2:15 PM
It wasn’t boring to me. I watched every second. I linked it to show that the two teams had played, one of them won, won the division of the conference and moved on.
Awful lot of exceptions in that rule.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:15 PM
He has always been one of the best defensive coaches in college basketball. And, like you said, the way he can manage egos and immaturity is a hard thing to do, and he does it as well as anyone.
part of my point was that it was rare to see his coaching lauded. when ratface or droopy or boeheim or self wins, the media knobjobs commence
April 4th, 2012 at 2:17 PM
Not much at all, but it would increase a bit as the stretch run would be more exciting. The reason why CFB can’t be looked at in the same way as CBB is because they are so different. There are 20-25 teams that can legitimately win a NCAA tourney each year. With 12 man rosters it only takes 2-3 guys playing really well. That’s not the case in football. There are only 10 teams to start each year that can probably win a title, and the regular season whittles that down to 2 or 3. I can handle giving a 4th team a shot, thus giving teams 5-8 a longer stay in the hunt. The regular season is a playoff. Don’t be mad at Bama because Oregon, Boise, Ok St and Stanford shit the bed against lesser foes. That’s not their fault. Now, I still think OKST should have played over Bama, even though Bama was the better team (by a good bit) but that’s because in the BCS your resume should matter. But getting all hot and bothered because the two best teams played twice is silly in my opinion.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:18 PM
It turns me on.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:18 PM
I have never quite figured out how an exception can prove a rule.
/Math major
April 4th, 2012 at 2:19 PM
As a Penn State fan, it’s absurd to me than a cabal of old people can stop a playoff system because of a tradition almost no one give a fuck about anymore. The Rose Bowl is just another BCS game for anyone under 35. There’s nothing special about it.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:21 PM
Agreed, and the two best Rose Bowls of the past 25 years were won by Texas.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:21 PM
Agree with the first part but not the second. In fact, I don’t know how those two sentence can even reconcile themselves.
If your resume should matter (and I agree that it does), then Alabama shouldn’t have played for the title. To this day I don’t understand why LSU isn’t a co-champion. Both teams beat each other once and finished with the same record, with LSU winning at Alabama, taking the SEC, and beating much better opponents.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:22 PM
I’m pretty luke warm and a bit peeved. I love CFB, perhaps my favorite sport. But I can’t deny that it’s postseason system is ridiculous. They have added more games to the season and you still have a ridiculous amount of time off from the game. And the arguments for getting these best two teams at the end to play each other change every year. I am a proponent of a 4-team/plus 1. I can’t go higher than that because I think if an actual system based on criteria and not coaches filling out their ballots however they see fit (there were coaches that had Ok St not in the top 5) then it would bring greater closer to the season.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:25 PM
Because the regular season is their playoff, and the title game is a one-off. So just like in 2007 in the NFL the Pats and the Giants weren’t co-champs. The BCS title game is a season unto itself.
Also, the two sentences work because if Bama were to have played OKST in the Sugar Bowl it would have been 38-16 Bama. They were head and shoulders better than The ‘Pokes. So while they didn’t have the resume OKST had, they were actually the better team.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:25 PM
Now, I still think OKST should have played over Bama, even though Bama was the better team (by a good bit) but that’s because in the BCS your resume should matter. But getting all hot and bothered because the two best teams played twice is silly in my opinion.
this is the problem. if a cfb hardcore fan like yourself thinks a lesser team should have played for title because that’s the system you have, that’s not a good system. the best system is only concerned with two bets playing for the title, not the eam that jumped through the system’s hoops. a playoff is the only indisputable way, because at least the players and coaches decided. it’s like you can’t call coin flips unfair
April 4th, 2012 at 2:27 PM
+1. Doesn’t matter what happens, the argument will be twisted to benefit the SEC.
I just can’t take any sport seriously that has six weeks between the end of its season and the next game that matters.
Cleet, I’d go eight teams. Otherwise Boise and the rest of the non blue-bloods get screwed in a different way. Who would have made it this year with Bama/LSU/OKSt– Stanford? Oregon? Boise? Wisconsin? All those teams have legit claims to a tournament but only one would be allowed. A four team playoff just screwed teams in a different way.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:30 PM
But its not a playoff. Otherwise, Ok St. would have been in the title game.
I’d rather spend less time on a playoff format and more energy on eliminating preseason polls, removing the ability for coaches and ADs to vote in a secret poll that directly affects their salaries, and creating balanced conferences with round-robin schedules.
Will any of that happen? Of course not. But it would dramatically improve the sport.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:30 PM
That’s why I want a plus-one. I view CFB playoffs kind of like a boss toss on a serve in tennis. You want to hit the ball at the moment it stands still, neither dropping or coming down (in a perfect world). Right now the system is at the beginning of the toss, on the way up. If you go to 4 (or my preferred 6) you’d hit that perfect height. The problem is, once you go to 4 (or 6) people will want to go to 8 or 12 or 16, or when the ball is coming down. There is a number that works, but it’s not a big one. So proposals like the Wetzel plan are simply non-starters for me and many CFB die hards.
I don’t like the BCS as it is and would love to change it, but over-correcting is also a bad thing, and going higher than 6 would be just that.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:31 PM
Because the regular season is their playoff, and the title game is a one-off.
agree. if a team can play harder or smarter because the stakes are higher, then they both know what’s at stake for the NC game. this dovetails nicely with my argument that you cannot call a team that doesn’t win a championship the ‘best’ team of any particular year. Best teams win when it matters most because one of the most important traits of a champion is the ability to perform under pressure
April 4th, 2012 at 2:31 PM
Well, since you ask, I’d venture that organizing a new playoff is undoubtedly more difficult and complicated than anything you’ve ever done.
Secondly, I wouldn’t get too worked up about anything until the final product is revealed.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:31 PM
Not really, as 7/10 times the winner of the SEC will be the best team (or in the top 2).
April 4th, 2012 at 2:31 PM
Wouldn’t the analogy be if the Giants and Pats were in the same division of the same conference and the Pats beat the Giants in the playoffs (in CFB, regular season = playoffs), but the Giants are voted into the Super Bowl over the AFC/NFC Champion (since they’re in the same division of the same coference, you see) and beat the Pats?
April 4th, 2012 at 2:33 PM
Ok. Don’t watch. The more that choose that route, the more likely the system will change.
/checks ratings and popularity
//sees you on an island
///oh well
Fuck. Ball toss.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:33 PM
+1
April 4th, 2012 at 2:34 PM
With the way college football has worked since the advent of the BCS, Alabama should not have played for the title this year. They got in because they were Alabama, nothing more. The narrative was changed from “who did you beat?” to “who did you lose to” overnight….just like LSU invented “unbeaten in regulation” to get its shot four years ago.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:36 PM
I actually agree with this. SEC is football central and their best programs will always be among the best in the nation. Important thing is that there is a system in place so that the other 3 times they don’t get in just because, and because coaches and pollsters can vote them in for their own benefit.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:36 PM
They got in because of Florida, LSU, Bama and Auburn.
You know what they had in common those years? Other teams losing. Don’t give Bama/LSU/whomever the space for an argument. Losing to a shitty Iowa State team was a big no-no.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:37 PM
keep it coming, queefer. your TBL impressions are pretty spot-on, but maybe a little cerebrally heavy though so you may want to tone that down a bit. other than that, you’ve got the “I don’t like college football but want to change it into the NFL” impression cornered.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:38 PM
There are 14 SEC coaches. Surely the others could vote them low, yes?
There are, what roughly 15% of the pollsters coming from the SEC region? Surely the other 85% can vote them low, yes?
April 4th, 2012 at 2:38 PM
Ann Arbor’s a bit cold and snowy on January 1.
I guess the SEC will have to get the one or two, otherwise they will have to play real football in the elements like men not girls in tank tops.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:39 PM
All of this. If you don’t like the sport, fine. I ignore the fuck out of baseball with some serious consistency. You’re not hearing me rage against their absurd quirks. Just.Stop.Watching.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:41 PM
Bama would have whooped that ass anywhere last year. Teams in the SEC (outside of UGA, maybe) don’t chuck it around too much. Also, much to the chagrin of the B10′ers, their own players don’t like playing in 15-25 degree temps either.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:49 PM
It wasn’t just SEC coaches that screwed up the process. I was making the general point that that type of voting should not be left up to the people it is currently left up to.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:52 PM
Who should vote? I agree that coaches should certainly not vote, but writers are a) too busy to watch more than a couple of games and b) too homerish to be trusted. Who should vote? Should we have a selection committee? Who should make that up? I honestly don’t have an answer for these questions.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:53 PM
Umm, Wisconsin? Lots of Big 10 players take pride in playing in the elements, just not the whiny punks from Florida.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:55 PM
They don’t like it. They put on a show, but they’d much rather play in the 50s. That’s human nature. Can they deal with it better? Probably, but when the ball is kicked I really think those in the North (way) overestimate the advantage gained. The real advantage would be playing at home with the crowd at their backs, not the weather.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:55 PM
Gotta be a selection committee since FBS won’t trust straight-up computers like every other division.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:59 PM
That’s a different argument.
Big 10 – Would you rather play when it’s 20 and snowy or 50 and slightly breezy?
SEC- Would you rather play when it’s 80 and humid or 50 and slightly breezy?
I’d bet more Big 10 players would take 20 and snowy than SEC players would take 50 and breezy.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:59 PM
In my opinion, yes. Larger than the one in basketball, and still have the polls to keep people who love that thing happy (like in basketball).
April 4th, 2012 at 3:00 PM
It’s not so much they don’t trust them more in the FCS. It’s just that no one cares (because there isn’t $$ in it) so they just go with the easiest route. If the FCS playoffs generated what the BCS does, there would be far more eyeballs on the computers.
April 4th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
I swear someone, somewhere, mentioned politics and logistics as potential problems.
Personally I wont be satisfied until the best teams are laying down and resting starters and I’m focusing on whether or not an 8-4 Virginia Tech “bubble” team should get in. Magical.
April 4th, 2012 at 3:02 PM
Who makes it up? Who participates? What criteria do they use? What holds more water, winning a conf title or SOS?
April 4th, 2012 at 3:04 PM
Take Clemson and VT this year. They each clinched the ACC title game birth somewhat early on compared to most years. Why should they play balls out in the last game or two if all that matters is getting to the post season? These are real concerns that people who scream PLAYOFF can’t answer, or they know the answer is unacceptable. Again, if you want CFB to be like the NFL, watch the NFL. It runs concurrently for your viewing pleasure.
April 4th, 2012 at 3:06 PM
Details are for suckers, just repeat “bubble teams” and “last 5 in” and everything will be ok.
April 4th, 2012 at 3:11 PM
Good questions, and when they are answered the process becomes more clear and the selections more valid. Some people say that the BCS system is the way it is and live by it, but it makes no sense. You’ve got voters in the Harris poll who don’t know what the fuck is going on. Appoint people that you can hold accountable, and clearly state what numbers you are going by and it makes it easier. If you want my opinions on the those questions: FBS administrators and slect members of the media in rotation. Use the computers and polls as guidance. I think winning a conf holds a lot of water, and if you don’t win at least a share of it you don’t deserve to play for the title.
April 4th, 2012 at 3:13 PM
Then make sure to NEVER…EVER mention the phrase True Champion, because this year would debunk that as Bama was the best team in the country.
April 4th, 2012 at 3:15 PM
Because then they wouldn’t secure one of the top spots in the playoff? I said from the beginning I want 4-team or plus 1. You are not going to make the title rounds if you lose your last couple games. I’m not arguing to turn it into the NFl. Or does it seem like I am doing that make it easier for you guys to shout me down.
*side note: if LSU had lost SEC champ. game everyone said they would still get in the BCS title game so they could have coasted in that one.
Makes total sense. You are shouting about bracket creep and I’ve clearly stated I’m not on the Wetzel plan but if it makes you feel better keep going with your basketball analogy.
April 4th, 2012 at 3:16 PM
That’s if there is a plus one, but many (cough…J-Diddy…cough) want 8, 12 or 16.
April 4th, 2012 at 3:17 PM
It would “bunk” Alabama as a contender for one of the 4 spots in this theoretical situation. If you are talking about 4 spots or a plus one I think they have a legit case. If you are saying whole season is a playoff whittled down to two teams I think it is wrong.
April 4th, 2012 at 3:19 PM
See, I’d rather have the best 4 teams then punish one of them because the second best team in the nation happened to be in their same division and nipped them by a FG. But that’s just me.
April 4th, 2012 at 3:26 PM
That’s what I was saying. Was making a reference to the Seinfeld skit where they talk about what the opposite of “debunk” is. Is it bunk or rebunk? I agree Bama should be included in the scenario.
April 4th, 2012 at 4:43 PM
White People screw everything up. The only thing they seem to get right is Genocide or any other variation on the word for wiping out civilizations or religions.
Kony 2012