Comparing Anthony Davis of Kentucky to Other Great Freshman Centers in College Basketball History
Most popular question over the weekend: After Davis scored 18 points, took 14 rebounds and blocked five shots in Kentucky’s Final 4 win over Louisville, everyone wanted to try and project what Davis will be like in the NBA. Because of his lithe frame and rangy arms, Marcus Camby has been the most frequent comparison. But as you can see below, Davis had a freshman year that has rivaled some of the best centers in the college game over the last 30 years. It’s important to note Duncan and Shaq entered college at 17.
Anthony Davis, Kentucky: 14.4 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 4.6 blocks, 63.9 % FGs, 31.9 minutes per game [age 19]
Marcus Camby, Massachusetts: 10.2 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.6 blocks, 49 % FGs, 21.9 minutes per game [age 19]
Tim Duncan, Wake Forest: 9.8 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 3.8 blocks, 54.5 % FGs, 30.2 minutes per game [age 17]
Shaq, LSU: 13.9 ppg, 12.0 rpg, 3.5 blocks, 55.6 FGs, 28.2 minutes per game [age 17]
Akeem Olajuwon, Houston: 8.3 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 2.4 blocks, 60.3 % FGs, 18.2 minutes per game [age 19]
Patrick Ewing, Georgetown: 12.7 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 3.2 blocks, 63.1 % FGs, 28.8 minutes per game [age 19]
Camby: As you can see, Davis was much more ready as a freshman. But Camby had a strong career at UMass, and is near the end of a nice 15-year NBA career. But isn’t in the same class as the other guys on this list. He led the league in blocks four times, but was injury-prone.
Duncan: Only took six shots a game as a 17-year-old freshman, then took 11 per game as a sophomore, and his scoring, rebounding, and block numbers all went up. Easily could have come out after his sophomore year. Stayed four years and went into the NBA ready: He averaged 21.1 ppg as a rookie, and averaged a double-double for the next 13 seasons. Probably will go down as the greatest power forward in NBA history.
Shaq: Left LSU after three years, and at the age of 21 he took the NBA by storm (think Anthony Davis, plus two inches and 100 pounds) – 23.4 points, 13.9 rpg, 3.5 blocks. Shaq averaged over 23 ppg for 11 straight seasons. I’m sure some will disagree, but I’ve got him as the best modern-era (1980s and beyond) NBA center, followed by Olajuwon, Jabbar and Ewing. Dwight Howard would be 5th on that list.
Olajuwon: Later added an H to his first name. Improved big-time as a sophomore (13-11-5) and then was a monster as a junior (16-13-5.5 and 67 percent shooting). Continued to improve as a pro and won two titles with the Rockets (the years Jordan played baseball). Averaged 20+ ppg for 13 straight years as an NBA player. Here’s the big different between Dream and Davis – Olajuwon (who didn’t grow up playing AAU ball) entered the NBA at 22 and had a polished offensive game. His rookie stats: 20.6 ppg, 11.9 rpg. No way Davis puts up those points as a rookie.
Ewing: Like Duncan, Ewing could have left after a stellar sophomore year (17-10). He stayed all four years, went to three title games, won one. Like everyone else on this list, Ewing came into the league with an offensive game, and averaged 20 ppg as a rookie. Like Olajuwon, Ewing averaged 20+ ppg for 13 straight years.
Dwight Howard bypassed college altogether, and as a raw 19-year-old rookie, put up 12 points and 10 rebounds per game. He’s a great rebounder (led the league four of the last five years) but not the shot-blocker of the other centers on this list, and not as offensively talented, either. Did not going to college and working on his post game hinder his offensive development? He’s only 26.
The development of Davis at the offensive end is key. Nobody but Davis can answer this – does he have the Kobe/Jordan desire to be the best? Will the domination as a freshman (assuming they win the title) go to his head, or will he continue to improve?
Previously: The 2012 Kentucky Wildcats Are Good, But Not One of the Best College Basketball Teams in the Last 25 Years
Previously: 2012 NBA Mock Draft 2.0, with Rising Royce White and Falling Perry Jones
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April 2nd, 2012 at 1:44 PM
Dwight Howard isn’t even remotely close to the player The Admiral was.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:45 PM
Surprised to see that Camby averaged 14.8 as a rookie and never scored that much again, averaging less than 10 for his career. Because of his wiry frame he needed to develop an outside game and never did.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:47 PM
Jabbar? He started his career in the 60′s for crissakes.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:47 PM
Why didn’t you compare him to Greg Oden’s freshman stats?
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:48 PM
He’s a fun player to watch. Almost 5 blocks a game. Awesome.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 PM
http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/11/07/the-top-50-players-in-college-basketball-for-2011-2012/
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:50 PM
I’m amazed Hernia has yet to compare his unibrow to the great unibrows in history.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:51 PM
No Greg Oden? His stats are right up there with Davis and took the Buckeyes to a National Title game.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 PM
Never change, Lima. Never change.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 PM
I’d also add that Greg Oden had a more polished post up game than Davis, although no jumper, and couldn’t guard the screen and roll as well as AD.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 PM
I can’t and won’t get over that damn unibrow.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:54 PM
This may sound like a dumb question: Is there a strong correlation between freshman year stats to future NBA success?
You are choosing the HOFs for comparison, but were there some players that never had great NBA careers that put up similar numbers as freshman?
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:55 PM
I know little about the KENT players themselves, but they seem like cool dudes on the court save for Terrance jones, who seems like a dick. The Davis kid seems like a cool dude for sure. I hope he does well in the NBA.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:55 PM
Jabbar did the least as a freshman of anyone on this list. He needs to be moved down.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:55 PM
I like that in that post he links to the Davis “scandal” and also questions Rivers fitting into the system. His clueless narrative is nothing if not consistent.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:55 PM
Because of his wiry frame he needed to develop an outside game and never did.
In his Nuggets days, Camby had a pretty effective 15-foot jumper from the “elbow” area. He didn’t take it more, since other guys (read: ‘Melo) were higher priorities on offense.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 PM
So if H’anthony Davis learns to shoot threes, he’ll be unstoppable!
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 PM
4.6 blocks is insane. Interested to see what he can do if/when his body fills in.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:57 PM
(assuming they win the title)
Terrible assumption.
/Fetch’d
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:57 PM
Actually, Oden’s freshman year was hands-down better than four of the players listed.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:57 PM
Joe Smith averaged 19.4 pts, 10.7 rebs, 3.1 blks as a frosh.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:58 PM
Anthony Davis and Britney Griner need to bang already and produce a very awkward yet, great basketball player.
April 2nd, 2012 at 1:59 PM
I just hope Davis learns to hit a 15-18 footer consistently. If Dwight Howard could hit a 15 footer with any consistency he’d score 30 every damn game. A big couldn’t press him without getting beaten on the dribble, and a smaller forward couldn’t handle him once he backed him down.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 PM
Padilla, Carmelo Trevieso and Camby was a hell of a freshman class (I think they all came in the same year). That group really made UMass a lot more popular throughout New England.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 PM
Interesting…
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 PM
Not sure if anyone’s made the comparison yet but Davis reminds me of Alonzo Mourning. Davis is maybe a little better rebounder but Mourning was a better scorer. Similar defensively.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 PM
That will be one ugly child
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 PM
when he wasn’t injured*…
/sign of times to come
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:01 PM
Yeah but I think this list is limited to people 19 and under.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:02 PM
I’m sure some will disagree, but I’ve got him as the best modern-era (1980s and beyond) NBA center, followed by Olajuwon, Jabbar and Ewing.
hakeem is the best in the modern era, go ahead and reference the ass beatings he put on shaq, admiral, and ewing. not sure how this is an arguement anymore.
Anthony Davis and Britney Griner need to bang already and produce a very awkward yet, great basketball player.
wait, you can make a kid by rubbing two logs together?
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:03 PM
Actually, there’s only one that rivals the Davis mess:
http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b84f69e2011279800cb728a4-pi
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:04 PM
Nicely done.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:04 PM
I assume the 15 footer you are talking about are free-throws. If he could hit those he would be over 30 a game.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:04 PM
First time I saw Brittant Griner, I thought I was crazy thinking Josh Boone is playing women’s ball.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:05 PM
Any 15 footer. Free throw or otherwise. I’m amazed he hasn’t gotten better in that area.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:05 PM
That one is worse than Davis! That’s goddamn shrubbery on the forehead there. Very Bold and uni.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:05 PM
Whoa.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:06 PM
Thanks.
So it seems using the stats from a freshman season will have some flaws when extrapolating NBA success.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:07 PM
I just don’t feel like this is legit comparison. I can’t believe it hasn’t been pointed out in 30 comments, but the talent level in the NCAA and the preparation kids get in the AAU era leads all freshmen “these days” to be better prepared and face weaker competition than 20-30 years ago. To not mention that is negligent.
/I assume you didn’t mention it, I can’t really stomach reading your stuff all the way through
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:07 PM
Ralph Sampson was a better freshman than any of these guys. He averaged 14.9 pts, 11.2 boards and 4.6 blocks a game. Just because his pro career was sabatoged by injuries doesn’t mean you can ignore of of the greatest college careers in history.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:08 PM
For your consideration.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:10 PM
I’m sure this was hyperbole, but in reality…
Howard averages 20.9 a game, shoots 5.2/10.6 FT/FTA per game. If he improved to Tim Duncan’s career average, he’d be at 23 a game this year. He’d have gone from 21.9 to 23.2 a game last year.
/narrative’d
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:12 PM
One of our brighter members addressed this earlier.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:12 PM
I love this little nugget off of Shaq’s LSU bio.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:13 PM
I honestly don’t get how anyone could compare Howard to any of those guys.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:13 PM
I wasn’t talking about FT’s. I was talking about actual jumpers. If teams knew he could hit that shot, they wouldn’t be able to back off of him, but bigs can’t handle his quickness, therefore he’d blow by them much of the time. Then you add in him making a higher percentage of the FTs and you get 30 a game.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:13 PM
It was hyperbole to be sure, but if he could shoot 75% from the line, his team would go to him more late in the game. Meaning his shot attempts would also go up.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:14 PM
Davis averages more rebounds, more assists, less turnovers, less fouls, more blocks, more steals, more 3′s, higher FG%, and higher FT%
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:16 PM
Link?
/kidding
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 PM
I don’t know that Howard has the ability to engage in 15′ dribble moves. Also, if he did this, everyone, including SVG, would tell him he is a puss and needs to get his ass back down to the block.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 PM
I don’t know if comparing offensive numbers is the way to go here. Davis’ impact at the next level will always be more at the defensive end of the floor. I like Rusty’s Kirilenko comparison from earlier.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:18 PM
Also Davis didn’t need the refs bailing him out by not ejecting his violent ass against Xavier to help him “lead his team to a National Title game.”
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:18 PM
Played more minutes too, so all of his traditional rate stats will be higher.
Oden was a better rebounder per minute.
Also, he played the first dozen games or so with only 1 hand. Shot his FTs left-handed. That screwed up his shooting percentages, to be sure.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Gotcha. Then yeah… if he had any range at all, he could go for 30. Though as he is one of the few true centers around who could be dominant on the offensive glass, I’m not sure I’d want him fooling around 15 feet from the basket. He should always have the post game (even though he doesnt right now) and body to dominate any defender down low. No matter how good he gets from 15 feet, he should be higher %age down low. Robin Lopez isn’t exactly Hakeem ca. 1994.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:22 PM
What about Never nervous Purvis? Too lazy to look up his stats.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:22 PM
That’s a good point….he was an athletic freak and Davis may end up being what Oden was hoped to be.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:22 PM
I expected to hear a chorus of boos from the Houstonians among us (I know there are a couple).
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:22 PM
I don’t know if this was in the post or if someone else said it, but you have to consider the era…most of these players played when you didn’t get a lot of run as freshman..hell Jordan wasn’t getting a lot of run as a freshman, Now it is way more common for a freshman to be starting and getting a lot of floor time
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:22 PM
Playing half a season with an injured hand? He better be careful or that nagging hand injury could derail his career.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:24 PM
30 mpg/20 ppg
/already looked it up when I made the identical point up above
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:26 PM
Actually, played them all left handed until the Big 10 tournament. So, he basivally played his freshman year with his left hand, average 16, 10, and 3, while shooting 61% from the field. Oden was sick, and were his Goddamn knees.
Davis is an awesome basketball player. But, he’s different than all of the other guys mentioned except Camby. He’s a super charged Camby. He’s got an outside game, which he will be able to use in the NBA, which Marcus never had in college or the pros. Camby was his equal as a shot blocker, which is a compliment to both.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:27 PM
Anthony Davis has a twin sister named Antionette.
http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2012/04/01/the-brow-takes-a-bow/
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:27 PM
So basically Greg Oden was awesome and this just further proves how bad of a coach Thad Matta is. Got it.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:29 PM
Next time I’ll do research so I dont run my big fat stupid mouth…but I still stand by the era comment
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:29 PM
So basically Greg Oden was awesome and this just further proves how bad of a coach Thad Matta is. Got it.
Gweg was awesome — though that Florida team was dirty. Noah, Brewer, Horford, token whiteboy Lee Humphrey.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:30 PM
Huh? He was a great player. OSU wasn’t as good as 2 time champ Florida. Nothing really to hang their heads about. 35-4, losing twice to the national champion doesn’t exactly suck. But, please carry on your rhetoric, if it so pleases you…
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:30 PM
Oden’s case is special in the sense that he never really had a chance to show if he was a bust or not. The guy did average 8.5 boards per game in 09-10 but he only played 21 games due to injury.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:31 PM
It does still blow me away how Florida was able to swing up and down like they did in the 2000s. TBL would have killed to have been able to write about their down years.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:31 PM
And those 8.5 boards came in 24 mpg of action.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:32 PM
On any other team in the country, Davis would average 20. Easy. Because on any other team in America he’d get double the shots (only 9 per game) than what he gets on this team. Also scary: He looks very comfortable shooting that 17 foot J and his free throws. I’ve been impressed when bigs do decide to challenge him outside the lane, he just puts the ball on the deck and drives right around them.
/He was a 6’3″ guard two years ago
//Didn’t lose much if any of those skills
///I’d be shocked if anyone didn’t know that by now. Calipari reminds everyone in every presser he does.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:33 PM
2008:
Is Donovan the best coach ever?
2010
Has Donovan lost it?
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:34 PM
Completely agree. I’d say Jordan is the exception that proves the rule that freshmen didn’t get much run unless you are an all-time great.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:34 PM
He’s the black Kosta Koufus.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:35 PM
I was looking up Lee Humphrery and saw he plays in the D-League — has anyone ever been to a D-League game? It seems that alot of the teams have atleast 1\2 players that I recognize, that cannot be a hard ticket to get.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:36 PM
Ewing and Olajuwon came along in the era without the shot clock, which meant they played in games with fewer possessions, thus lesser numbers. Lew Alcindor played in an era when Freshmen did not play college ball, so Davis’ numbers dwarf Alcindor’s substantially (sigh).
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:36 PM
This season has really put a dagger in his various coaching narratives, especially if UK wins tonight.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:37 PM
What about Never nervous Purvis? Too lazy to look up his stats.
Juwaan Howard is outside whoopin on Purvis.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:37 PM
OT…id love to make fun of rory for this, but if i were in his shoes at his age, id have been just as despondent. quote’s from CBS golf broadcaster peter kostis.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:37 PM
Serious question… Was there anyone else worth a damn on that Maryland team?
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:37 PM
I think it would be depressing to watch in person, honestly.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:39 PM
Hey remember that time the T’wolves screwed themselves by trying to pay Smith under the table to avoid the cap? Yeah that was really smart move, trying to illegally pay a guy more who had a career average of 11-6.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:39 PM
Not so fast. One of those guys will be a choker after tonight.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:39 PM
You can win a national championship and still be a choker. See Boeheim, Jim. On another note, has Boehiem ever had back to back to back seasons like Cal has had at Kentucky? Elite, Final Four and possible National Champion tonight.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:40 PM
That Houston-Bulls series would have been FEROUCIOUS. Hakeem would probably have been torn from limb to limb the the 18-fouls a game trio the Bulls ran out there.
What Hakeem did to the Admiral that one year in the WCF, DAMN. He worked him every which way but loose.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:41 PM
I think it would be depressing to watch in person, honestly.
I went to an ABA game with the Pittsburgh Xpolsion a few years back — they played at Mellon Arena, there was about 250 people in the stands. It was tough.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:43 PM
Joe Smith played with Evers Burns, no?
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:45 PM
are likely the same age as Jamie Moyer.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:45 PM
This x100. I hate KY, but he’s a really good watch.
His frame is so big, you’d think he could put on some weight (35-45lbs?) in the next 2 years. Playing inside will require it.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:46 PM
I brought this up over the weekend on here….his last 7 seasons are insane:
Elite 8, Elite 8, Runner-up, Sweet 16, Elite 8, Final 4, Championship game
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 PM
if you needed one ncaa coach (from a top 30 program) as your game coach/tactician, to decide your life, who’d you take?
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:50 PM
if you needed one ncaa coach (from a top 30 program) as your game coach/tactician, to decide your life, who’d you take?
what if you needed one NFL assistant coach with no coordinator experience to help you draw up the most pointless hypothetical you could think of that involved you somehow dying? Who do you choose?
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:51 PM
if you needed one ncaa coach (from a top 30 program) as your game coach/tactician, to decide your life, who’d you take?
For whatever reason Izzo was the first person that came to mind. And if he lost he would probably make me feel better about me being killed moments after final buzzer.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:52 PM
Mike Woodson.
April 2nd, 2012 at 2:53 PM
Buzz Williams….his guys play their asses off
April 2nd, 2012 at 3:03 PM
Shaq’s stats are misleading as well.
His freshman year (89-90), LSU already had Chris Jackson (27.8ppg) and Stanley Roberts (14.1/9.8/1.9 bpg – 26.8 mins.) on a loaded roster. Not a lot of shots to go around.
Still can’t believe they didn’t do dick in the tournament – freaking Dale Brown.
April 2nd, 2012 at 3:11 PM
I agree. Same could be said in 15 years for Anthony Davis about his freshman stats as well since he plays on a team where yes, he’s the leading scorer at 14.4 ppg but the next 5 guys averages go as follows: 13.5, 12.4, 11.9, 10.1, and 9.9. Talk about balance.
April 2nd, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Pitino.
April 2nd, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Dave Campo
April 2nd, 2012 at 3:50 PM
Yet his successors have made him look like a genius.
Daddy Dale could recruit like a mofo, though, and occasionally he pulled some actual gametime coaching out of his backside, like coming up with his Freak defense.
April 2nd, 2012 at 4:22 PM
Am I the only one who sees Davis developing into a Kevin Garnett type player (minus the being a dickhead thing)?
April 2nd, 2012 at 4:45 PM
Yet his successors have made him look like a genius.
Daddy Dale could recruit like a mofo, though, and occasionally he pulled some actual gametime coaching out of his backside, like coming up with his Freak defense.
Don’t get me wrong – I loved me some Dale Brown. But man, he seriously underperformed with loaded rosters and then brought a bunch of nobodies to Final Fours. He could recruit and motivate marginal players, but he didn’t have a clue with superstar players.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:25 PM
No question that Anthony Davis is the man, will be interesting to see how he fares when he enters the NBA. His blocks number will inevitably drop but i expect his ppg to go up even in his rookie year as long as he doesn’t land on a talent-loaded, top team.