Remember 14 Years Ago When a Majority of GM’s Said They Would Take Ryan Leaf Over Peyton Manning?
Only four times since the merger have two quarterbacks been selected with each of the first two picks of a draft: Plunkett-Manning, Bledsoe-Mirer, Manning-Leaf, and Couch-McNabb. It is almost assuredly going to happen this year for the first time since 1999.
I thought it would be fun to take a flashback to the most notable, the Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf debate of 1998. On this day, fourteen years ago, Newsday published the results of a poll of 20 GM’s:
The overwhelming consensus: Manning may have the more recognizable name, but Leaf clearly is the preferred quarterback among league executives. Fourteen of the 20 polled said they would draft Leaf over Manning, citing the Washington State quarterback’s stronger arm, better mobility and more promising long-term prospect as a franchise-caliber player.
“More promising long-term prospect as a franchise-caliber player.” That’s right, when faced with looking at a quarterback who would go on to win four NFL MVP awards, versus, well, Ryan Leaf, the majority of GM’s went Leaf.
It’s easy to make fun of it now. Things seem so obvious in retrospect. The warning signs were there, and if either of these two fail this time, we’ll find warning signs in rearview mirrors. Leaf failed to show up for a meeting with the Colts at the Combine, which was explained at the time as a miscommunication when another team asked for a medical exam.
When San Diego traded up to get the #2 pick, General Manager Bobby Beathard said “I think the consensus of opinion is that two guys like (Manning and Leaf) don’t come along very often. If we’re going to be successful in getting that type of quarterback, we’re going to have to give up something, and we really did. Each one has the ingredients to be a top-level quarterback in this league.” When some expressed concern over the cost of the trade and the “no cost is too high” attitude at the time, Peter King wrote about Packers general manager Ron Wolf, who said “I’ve got to call Bobby and congratulate him. You pay whatever you have to for a franchise player.”
After the combine kerfuffle, the Colts still attended Ryan Leaf’s pro day (where you will be surprised to learn that unlike every other QB pro day ever, he looked good). As late as the week of the draft in April, the Colts were said to be undecided, but leaning Manning.
Peter King did run an article the week before the draft, where he said that Manning was the clear choice. He based this on interviews with six men: Sid Gillman, Jerry Angelo, UCLA coach Bob Toledo, Mike Shanahan, Phil Simms, and Bill Walsh. They raised some concerns about Leaf. Angelo presciently said this: “Here’s what could be the biggest day of your life, the day you’re going to expose yourself to your future employers for the first time, and you show up out of shape and overweight. To me, that’s a signal. The quarterback has to be the CEO of your team. You have to trust him. I’d have some hard questions if that happened and we were going to pick him.” Gillman and Walsh questioned Leaf’s drop back: “He’s way too slow. This is the age of the blitzer in the NFL. He’d better get coached out of that in a hurry.”
Walsh was the only one who said he wouldn’t take Manning first, but that’s because he would draft a different player, and select Brian Griese of Michigan in the second round.
When it comes to quarterbacks, if Bill Walsh would have gotten that horribly wrong, what chance do the rest of us have?
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March 30th, 2012 at 12:15 PM
I must man up and admit I said the same thing at the time.
/ 14 years of facepalm
March 30th, 2012 at 12:18 PM
No, but I wasn’t into sports as much when I was 9. What I’ve heard the last couple years though must be a good dose of revisionist history, because everyone says there was no way Peyton wouldn’t have gone 1st to any team.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:18 PM
/pours one out for starter velcro back caps
March 30th, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Coming into the NFL, he had a bit of a reuptation as a choker in big games.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:21 PM
The Griese thing was used as a club for years around here by people who wanted to make excuses for him. “But Bill Walsh would have drafted him! Bill Walsh!”
March 30th, 2012 at 12:22 PM
Looks like Mr. Big Time, This Jason Kid, finally rolls into the TBL offices around Noon.
/Cowturd’d
March 30th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
Manning’s good, but he throws a lot of backbreaking picks.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
In ’98, Bill Polian picks Manning over Leaf, then in ’99, he picks Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams. Solid.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:27 PM
I have a friend who dumped his lifelong love of the Colts because he so strongly disagreed with the Manning over Leaf pick. He changed over to those upstart Ravens.
/dies a little more each day as a Browns fan
March 30th, 2012 at 12:28 PM
So what Lisk is writing is that it’s a crapshoot, is tht it? Take a look at the all-time #1 picks and I’d say about 40-50% have had success in the NFL.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Why was Cowherd dogging Lisk? For being competent?
March 30th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
cool nugget.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
Remember when the Clippers took Michael Olowokandi first overall in the NBA draft? GM’s outsmart themselves all the time on these top draft picks – they lose all perspective with too much time to analyze what they are going to do.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
He used his Tebow for Two post as his “opening rant”. After belittling Lisk, he went on some tangent comparing it to a threesome or something and that’s when I did the only responsible thing and swerved head-on into a semi.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
And it didn’t cost him all his other picks that year, did it?
/ Ditka’d
March 30th, 2012 at 12:33 PM
This is going to happen with Tannehill this year.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:38 PM
Does this mean the Redskins overpaid by traded up to get RG3?
March 30th, 2012 at 12:38 PM
quite staring at it and light that shit up bro.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:38 PM
leaf’s still got time to turn his career around…considering peyton’s neck issues, he might be the safer option.
/what id say if i were on drugs
March 30th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
satire?
March 30th, 2012 at 12:41 PM
have there been any red flags though for either Luck or RGIII?
I think, if anything, teams learned a great deal from the Leaf/Manning debacle and there’s more players in all positions that slide down draft charts due to the personality issues taking more precedence over skill and physical ability.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
/three hours and eighteen minutes until mellow gets enhanced…
//HURRY THE FUCK UP
March 30th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
Wish that were the case. Too many late game picks for my taste.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:47 PM
That’s the only way I could abandon my Bengals/Pistons/White Sox fandom. If there’s a Durant/Oden or Leaf/Manning situation where they have the 1st pick & I’m overwhelmingly for the guy that went #2 instead. I don’t know why, but that would do it.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Does this mean the Redskins overpaid by traded up to get RG3?
It means it’s more likely that one of Luck and Griffin will be a bust than both of them turn out great.
It’s why 2004 (when Eli, Rivers and Rothlisberger all went within Top 12) is so rare.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:47 PM
You mean other than the Raiders, correct?
March 30th, 2012 at 12:47 PM
ok, I’m certain you’re fucking with me now.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:50 PM
David Carr and Joey Harrington I believe went 1 and 3.
/Vomits
March 30th, 2012 at 12:51 PM
i exclude the Raiders in any comment made about teams making wise decisions and learning from mistakes.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Starter made some sweet hats back in the day. My favorite was a black and purple Lakers hat.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:57 PM
Just look at the Colts #1 picks from ’96-’03. Marvin Harrison, Tarik Glenn, Peyton Manning, Edgerrin James, Rob Morris, Reggie Wayne, Dwight Freeney, Dallas Clark. Has any team has a run like that with #1 picks. Even the dud of the group (Morris) was their starting MLB on the Super Bowl champ team.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:57 PM
It’s why 2004 (when Eli, Rivers and Rothlisberger all went within Top 12) is so rare.
The only comparable one is the 1983 class.
There’s no apostrophe in GMs.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:58 PM
Of course the Colts’ drafts from ’05-’11 leave a lot to be desired. Part of that is picking near the end but aside from Joe Addai they’ve done pretty much nothing.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:59 PM
And of course this is the year the Bills happened to pick 13th, so they ended up with JP Losman, the black sheep of that class.
March 30th, 2012 at 1:08 PM
“JP Losman looks to me like the next Brett Favre.”
/Kiper’d
March 30th, 2012 at 1:11 PM
Tracy Porter disagrees.
March 30th, 2012 at 2:20 PM
I must have really missed that this was such a big deal 14 years ago. I have probably edited what I remember, but I remember thinking San Diego was stupid, and knowing Peyton was the real deal.
Of course, what I mainly remember about that draft was Dallas finally making the smart move and not taking talented troublemaker Randy Moss, and instead taking future hall of famer Greg Ellis.
March 30th, 2012 at 3:21 PM
…..and we all really wonder why teams hire and fire gm’s/coaches/staff every 3 years.
March 31st, 2012 at 4:57 AM
Peter Schiff tried to warn us about Ryan Leaf.