David Stern Takes a Few Swings at the NCAA Regarding One-and-Done

All, College Basketball, NBA Jason McIntyre March 29th. 2012, 6:58pm

Where do you sit on the one-and-done issue? Should it be 2-and-done? Don’t require college at all? David Stern spoke to the media in Phoenix this week, and had some thoughts on the issue:

“A college could always not have players who are one and done,” Stern said. “They could do that. They could actually require the players to go to classes.
“Or they could get the players to agree that they stay in school, and ask for their scholarship money back if they didn’t fulfill their promises. There’s all kinds of things that, if a bunch of people got together and really wanted to do it, instead of talk about it …”

Never been a fan of “requiring” kids to stay in school. Asking for scholarship money back would never happen for multiple reasons (scaring off elite talent, sending kids overseason, etc). What’s not mentioned, of course, is finding a way to pay the players – something that would probably help the sport and keep the 2nd/3rd tier kids in school for another year or two. [via Pro Basketball Talk]

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39 Responses to “David Stern Takes a Few Swings at the NCAA Regarding One-and-Done”

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jekyll Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 7:25 PM
Do you have something to add, or is this your Eifling impression?
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The Wayne Fontes Safari Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 7:28 PM
Asking for scholarship money back would never happen for multiple reasons
Meh. Really no need for that. Seems like many of the Michigan and MSU kids that jump to the pros early wind up giving much more than that back. Pretty certain it’s common at many universities.
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Gerard Portmanteau Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 7:29 PM
David Stern looks like one of those people with no collagen in his skin, like he could stretch his face into a Halloween mask.
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Gerard Portmanteau Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 7:30 PM
sending kids overseason
This feels like the dreaded spellcheck.
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ButtersBC Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 7:31 PM
How about using the baseball method where a player can come out after high school or they commit to a school for more than a year
What’s not mentioned, of course, is finding a way to pay the players
There’s nothing left in the coffers after you’ve paid all the football players
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TexansFan Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 7:32 PM
playing ball over seas is already an option. Can’t they also play in the D-League until they are of age?
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The Wayne Fontes Safari Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 7:32 PM
Where do you sit on the one-and-done issue?
As someone with great recollection of 80′s college basketball, I’d selfishly like them to be three-or-four-and-done.
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ButtersBC Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 7:33 PM
playing ball over seas is already an option
A poor one, Brandon Jennings had a horrible time over there
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Gerard Portmanteau Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 7:35 PM
There’s nothing left in the coffers after you’ve paid all the football players
Pshaw, everyone knows universities country-wide are swimming in excess cash. Why, just ask a college football reporter on Twitter.
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José Ovechkin Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 7:39 PM
playing ball over seas is already an option. Can’t they also play in the D-League until they are of age?
And the D League isn’t a great option either, at least I don’t think so. I remember Gerry McNamara signed a deal for like $18,000 a year a couple years back
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webercantcoach Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 7:39 PM
David Stern is a jerk. If I saw him in person would say, Hey David you are a jerk. Then he would cry and say but I own the NBA and I would say no the people do and by the way , your leauge sucks!
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jimisawesome Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 7:43 PM
Guy creates the problem and wants others to fix it news at 11.
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resolutedefense Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 7:43 PM
Never really cared about players leaving early. You go to college to prepare for your future profession. If that profession happens to be basketball and someone is willing to pay you before you graduate go for it. If someone out there was willing to pay me before I finished the degree for my profession I would not have told them no.
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Clayton Cargill Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 7:43 PM
Do you have something to add, or is this your Eifling impression?
he added his traditional “pay the players” bullshit at the end.
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SumNemo Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 7:53 PM
/David Stern opens mouth
/Walks away
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kazzythekid Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 8:02 PM
Cop Out by Stern. NBA implements a 20 year old/2 years removed from high school minimum, and this isn’t a problem.
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scripty Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 8:11 PM
its market forces. Wouldnt the proper market correction be to make 1st year player salaries crappy-real-world low, like $100k, and then let teams renogiate on guys who pan out. That might cause guys to develop skills vs providing unrefined talent.
/not a fan of really adjusting the system anyway. I’d prefer a pro minor league and keep all the 1-done out of college.
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payaso Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 8:14 PM
Don’t require college at all?
Draftees currently aren’t required to go to college, they just can’t enter the draft until one year after high school graduation.
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cassino Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 8:16 PM
David Stern Takes a Few Swings at the NCAA Regarding the Situation He Created
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coop247 Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 8:39 PM
Its so very convenient for these pro leagues to create arbitrary age rules and then have universities get all the blame for the situation. Lazy reporting is largely to blame.
~~McDonalds~~ McDowells is hiring if you dont want to go to college, they’ll pay your playoffs all day long.
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VladimirCrouton Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 8:41 PM
David Stern and the owners blew the opportunity to improve the league during the lockout. So fuck them. Let the kids enter the draft at 18 and if they choose to attend college, make it at least 2 years.
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KC Resident Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 8:50 PM
If I saw him in person would say, Hey David you are a jerk.
I think the correct answer here is, “Do you smell like piss?”
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kaiserwilhelmreems Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 9:04 PM
approach it like real life, getting a degree and 4 years of playing at the college level earns you more money in a rookie deal.
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jayhawk88 Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 9:44 PM
You know if you combine Stern, Selig, and Goodell, you’d almost get one complete, morally viable human being.
What a joke. “Colleges could always just have players who are one and done”. How the blue hell did he manage to say that without being crushed by the weight of his own hypocrisy?
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Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah! Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 10:08 PM
Stern, as usual,is talking out of his ass. A scholarship is actually 4 one year payments, which is why there have been coaches who have come into programs and not renewed the schollys for the players who were already there.
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Ballz is The Stig Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 11:05 PM
sending kids overseason
I’m pretty sure this isn’t a thing.
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Ballz is The Stig Says:
March 29th, 2012 at 11:07 PM
David Stern is a jerk. If I saw him in person would say, Hey David you are a jerk. Then he would cry and say but I own the NBA and I would say no the people do and by the way , your leauge sucks!
Good lord, you are fucking stupid.
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Nada Says:
March 30th, 2012 at 12:18 AM
Whoop, whoop, whoop! We got us a Craig James sighting. He talked to Texas Monthly about why the haters hate him:
“They don’t like the fact that I go home to the same lady every night and have for twenty-nine years.”
Amazing. Craig James has kept the same dead hooker at home for 29 years?!
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Charske Don't Surf Says:
March 30th, 2012 at 1:22 AM
David Stern is a jerk. If I saw him in person would say, Hey David you are a jerk. Then he would cry and say but I own the NBA and I would say no the people do and by the way , your leauge sucks!
Good lord, you are fucking stupid.
most accurate thing written on this site in weeks
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Shatner, Dead? Shatner IS Dead. Says:
March 30th, 2012 at 1:49 AM
sending kids overseason
I hate when I over season my kids.
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chicago Says:
March 30th, 2012 at 7:34 AM
“They don’t like the fact that I go home to the same lady every night and have for twenty-nine years.”
Amazing. Craig James has kept the same dead hooker at home for 29 years?!
Needs more love.
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Riggs Says:
March 30th, 2012 at 7:36 AM
Mike & Mike currently talking about Jason Lisk’s post on always going for 2 with Tebow…
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cracker jack Says:
March 30th, 2012 at 7:42 AM
Lisk has finally made it..
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scripty Says:
March 30th, 2012 at 8:27 AM
Sadly that’s not in the top 90% of Lisk articles…. and I like Lisk’s work.
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vajayjay redick Says:
March 30th, 2012 at 9:30 AM
Of course Stern hates the one-and-done rule. Back when guys were staying 3-4 years he didnt need to fund the D League.
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Jake Says:
March 30th, 2012 at 10:25 AM
All those HS kids coming early ruined the sport. You know. Hall of Famers like Lebron, KG, Kobe, Dwight. But I’m sure Stern would trot out failures like Korelone Young. Like its the leagues job to make sure kids aren’t morons.
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aschick41 Says:
March 30th, 2012 at 12:14 PM
Always thought the baseball method was best. Either way, this is Stern’s mess, not the NCAA.
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shepseskaf Says:
March 31st, 2012 at 1:24 PM
Players should be able to join the NBA whenever a team will draft and pay them. Simple. If they aren’t good enough to jump straight from HS, then let them opt for college or Europe.
One-and-done isn’t a mess, its just market forces sorting out a situation. When players can leave and get paid, they do — just like in any other occupation that doesn’t necessarily require a 4-year degree.
/off soapbox
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Freezer Says:
March 31st, 2012 at 10:22 PM
One-and-done is a mess. Because it forces kids who openly only care about reaching the next level to put in a token stint in college, while simultaneously prompting those who need more college time to come out before their game gets disected and they lose draft status.
Baseball (and hockey, IIRC) have had a system in place for decades that works: come straight to the pros or college for three. Of course, they both also something the NBA doesn’t: A minor league that doesn’t exist solely so the NBA has something to point to when people ask about their minor league system.