Tim Tebow to the Jets: Trying Really, Really Hard to Find Some Positives
I made it pretty clear Thursday that I was a fan of the Tim Tebow trade. This seems to be a minority opinion. Ian O’Connor of ESPN is a fan of trade and so is Steve Politi of the Star Ledger. And … that seems to be it. The Jets have so many other holes to fill! Who needs a QB controversy? I attempt to answer these and other questions you flung my way:
Q: how does he make them better?
Let’s remember the Jets’ biggest offseason move before Tebow – naming Tony Sparano the new offensive coordinator. He likes running the football (and sadly, kicking field goals). He ran the Wildcat in Miami until opponents figured it out. He’s a run-first guy. Ground-and-pound is back.
It’s safe to say we won’t see Sanchez throwing 59 times like he did against the Giants. Sanchez threw 40+ passes four times last year. I’d set the over/under on 40+ passes next season at 1.
I’d expect the Jets to occasionally run the Wildcat with receiver Jeremy Kerley. Then, they can bring in Tebow to pound away with the read option. They can give opponents several different looks on offense, and let’s not forget that Santonio Holmes, despite being a dickhead last year, is still a Top 20 receiver in the league.
Q: I’m confused why do people care what Joe Namath thinks?
You and me both. He’s a clueless fossil.
Q: You had confidence in the Jets front office?
I used to, back in 2009 and 2010. The last two offseasons? Not at all. I think Mike Tannenbaum will be reassigned in the front office if a) they botch the draft b) they miss the playoffs.
Sure. I didn’t think guys like Henne/Stanton were going to put a scare into Sanchez. Nobody’s going to be clamoring for them. Tebow? Oh yeah. Fans will be begging for him if Sanchez has any of his patented 4-5 turnover games, or fails miserably in a big spot (like he did numerous times last season). Sanchez has six months to devour the new playbook and get his mind right. My hope is he’ll thrive next season, and we’ll only see Tebow in situational spots.
Q: why do you really think he chose the Jets over the Jags? he said he wanted to start?
There’s some dispute over whether or not Tebow had a decision to make, but one team was in the AFC title game two of the last three years; the other is rebuilding and drafted a QB in the Top 10 last year. Also, the New York factor probably didn’t hurt.
Q: Where does this leave Greg McElroy? He could be the best QB for Sprano’s system…
Considering they just signed QB Drew Stanton, and it seems unlikely they’ll keep 4 QBs … Stanton or McElroy figure to be waived/cut/traded. Personally, I’d keep McElroy.
Most popular question, by far. And a good one. For the second offseason in a row, the GM, Mike Tannenbaum has done an awful job. Some of it has to do with being cash-strapped – all their money is tied up in Sanchez, Holmes, Mangold, Brick, Harris, Revis and Cromartie – so they couldn’t spend to bring in anyone real at linebacker, right tackle or safety. Now that it’s late in the free agency game, there simply isn’t anyone great they can afford to fill those holes. So they’ve simply got to hope Wayne Hunter improves on the line, hope Bart Scott and Brian Thomas can turn back the clock, and pray Laron Landry stays healthy and Eric Smith somehow gets better. (That’s a lot of hoping.)
Q: How about cap space?! Wasting money on tebow that could be used for FS, RT, WR, LB, DE?
It wasn’t like that. It’s not like they had the choice: “Trade for Demeco Ryans or trade for Tim Tebow.” Best I can tell, there’s no way the Jets could have afforded Ryans or Mario Williams or any free agents who got paid this offseason.
Q: if tebow played any pos. besides qb, where would you like him to play?
Seen this question a lot. Not happening. Maybe he lines up at WR during a series with the Wildcat or Read Option, but he’s a QB.
Q: there is no way they let him be only a QB right? They will use him like a jack of all trades?
How many passes has he caught in his career – college and pro? I’m guessing under three. Tebow’s a QB.
Q: where does Sanchez go? Can’t afford both can they?
Tebow is much cheaper – a $1.5 million cap hit this year. That’s it! If they want to keep him in 2013 and 2014 that’ll cost them $13 million. At this time, I can’t envision a scenario where they keep both Tebow and Sanchez, as both would cost them about $19 million in 2013.
Q: why the hell didn’t we just keep brad smith all along?
The Jets couldn’t afford – or weren’t willing to – give Brad Smith a 4-year, $15 million deal. So he went to Buffalo. The sad part is, Smith played WR/KR/situational QB, and now the Jets have 3-4 guys filling his role.
Q: I call homer. If he wasn’t going to the Jets you would hate it.
Clearly, this guy wasn’t reading last season. I’m a fan of Tebow in the NFL. There’s a lot to like. I’d root for him anywhere … though it would be difficult to get excited about him playing for a crummy franchise like Jacksonville.
Q: what did Francissca have to say on Tebow to the Jets?
Trashed it all afternoon. But he wasn’t wrong about any of it. Called the franchise a joke, a circus (he’s right), said it’s simply a money grab (he’s right) because they want to profit off Tebow.
Q: is mike t officially on notice? This is going to be the make or break year for him?
Unquestionably yes.

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March 22nd, 2012 at 10:07 AM
weren’t you in love with this move as recently as yesterday?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 AM
How does Tebow make Mark Sanchez better?
How does adding Tebow not make the clusterfuck circus that is the NY Jets more of a clusterfuck circus?
This has disaster written all over it. It will be fun to watch it all crumble.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:10 AM
Said this yesterday, but it was late.
TBL has to love this move, not as a fan, but as the owner/director of a Jets centric blog. Tebow moves the dial and will be huge for page views. I can’t blame him. Business success and in turn family welfare > success on field of your favorite team.
The circus is coming to town and you can read about it 24/7 at TBL.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:10 AM
Whoa. How many different offenses are the Jets going to install this year? Eats up your practice hours to make the Wildcat (which Sparano abandoned, and was actually coached by David Lee anyway) and/or read option significant parts of the playbook…
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:10 AM
Yesterday was Wednesday.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:10 AM
LOL at the Wildcat Offense comment. That bullshit gimmick hasn’t worked in the NFL in two seasons.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Wildcat offense > attempting to throw with Sanchez > attempting to throw with Tebow
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:13 AM
Well isn’t the real answer if this goes as comically bad as it looks like it could, he would still have the Jaguars to go to after. If he went straight to Jacksonville and failed he would be out of the league.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:14 AM
Easier to beat out Sanchez than Gabbert. Shrewd move by Tebow.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:15 AM
Come to TBL to shoot the breeze with sports fans, and an online version of “Jets Confidential” breaks out. Yeesh.
Combine’s done. Draft is a month away. Once the season starts, answers to the questions will be evident. Until then, just breathe.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:15 AM
i do love the move. as you can tell, other fans hate it.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 AM
as usual, Random Old Dude is the voice of reason.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:18 AM
this is the NFL. if you put sanchez out there to manage the running game and attempt passes, then bring in Kerley for the wild cat then bring in Tebow for the option game, defenses will absolutely destroy the Jets.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 AM
Speaking of, is there going to be another TBL commenters draft? If so I want in.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:20 AM
what’s better, matching the Eagles offer to get Demeco Ryan or the Tebow Trade?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:21 AM
You and me both. He’s a clueless fossil.
He’s also responsible for the only relevant moment in the franchise’s history
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:22 AM
TWSS
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:22 AM
there are a lot of relevant moments in the Jets history.
/insert link to youtube vid of Jets draft blunders here.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:22 AM
I enjoyed that troll Mike Florio saying yesterday that Denver owed it to Tebow to send him where he wanted to go as if he’s not just another NFL player…if the Packers could say fuck you to Brett freaking Favre and send him to the Jets instead of Minnesota I don’t think Tebow was going to be above the Broncos looking for the best possible deal for him, wishes be damned
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:23 AM
TBL- do you really believe in that “defenses can’t stop the read option” tweet you posted. Cause that is laughable. Did you watch broncos v pats in playoffs? Seemed like they figured it out. Along with buffalo, Detroit, heck even the jets up until the last drive. That offense wasn’t that good. The Broncos just had a great run of defensive performances that kept the games very close. Fall behind with that O and good luck.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:24 AM
I think Spencer gets grandfathered in to pick for the Bengals and make a mockery of the entire proceedings
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 AM
I stopped going to pft because he throws up posts with headlines that make you want to click and he is rehashing some shit he threw against the wall to see if it will stick, all in the name to get page views.
/ looks east towards JMac….
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Yeah. Tebow “chose” the Jets like I “chose” to do community service as a teen.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Jason, I just wanna give you a hard time without getting banned (LOL). I know you aren’t gonna give my beloved Chargers the same coverage as your precious Jets.
Your house, your rules. I get it.
But, I do get frustrated when ESPN does the heavy speculation stuff. They get so overheated on what might happen & putting their talent out front with speculation, that lots of their shows have become unwatchable, IMHO. I know, speculation pushes buttons.
Here, you can get some pretty insightful and hilarious responses on various posts. I’ll still hang in, but I think for now the Saints issue has wider-reaching impact across the league as a whole/as a business entity.
Roster moves, for the Jets, Chargers, Broncos, et al, are intriguing for a moment. Guess I’m more curious as to what the whole league looks like in the wake of the suspensions in Nawlins.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Tebow is looking so longingly at Sanchez in that picture.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Is it out of the question that the Jets cut Sanchez?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:28 AM
I cannot wait for Tebow to lead Sanchez into an incoming safety/ linebacker on some gimmick play.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:28 AM
I guess I agree with what Boomer Esiason said this morning and that if they are trying to develop Sanchez then why would you even think of taking any snaps away from him? Also the fact that the Jets say they can handle this mania yet tweeted the trade before both teams signed off on it and read the fine print and then told Tebow he will compete for the job. Franchise is a mess.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:29 AM
I had to do community service in college for running a fake ID ring, got assigned to being the overnight janitor in the courthouse.
Everyone can see where this is going, yep, I cranked it in the county commissioner board room each night.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Probably. I think they’d owe him a shit-ton of cash if they did.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:29 AM
/puts wallet in toilet
/flushes
Yea I would say that contract kind of prohibits that.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:29 AM
almost forgot you weren’t around these parts in the years past, TBL picked the Chargers to win the SB for 3 or 4 years in a row i think.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Pet peeves:
(A) People that don’t use “.5″ in their over/under props to disallow ties.
(B) People unaware which day of the week is which.
(C) Spelling of ‘Francissca’
Also, if you’re a big fan of this trade, the answers shouldn’t: be couched in terms of hope and pray, mention how Francesa hated all of it and was right, and opine that the GM is on notice.
I’m loving every minute of this as a Broncos fan. In the span of a week, Elway turned Tebow, a 7th round pick, and some cash into Manning, a 4th round pick, and a 6th round pick. Hell yes.
Broncos fans will always be grateful to Tebow for the end of last season and the greatest playoff game since the Elway Super Bowls (Plummer and Bailey beating the Patriots wasn’t as good as the Steelers game), but the upgrade to Manning is an absolute no brainer.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Did mine in the local food co-op. Those hippies fucking despised me.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Having twitter questions for this was a great idea. It’s even cooler that you linked to the actual twitter feed.
/seriously
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 AM
I forgot about his extension, nevermind.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:31 AM
I attempt to answer these and other questions you flung my way:
i didn’t; who flung questions at TBL for football knowledge? own up!
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:31 AM
I had to do community service in college
I got 3 weeks cleaning the zoo parking lot – you would not believe the amount of shitty diapers people just toss in the lot .. and it was july.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:31 AM
twitter is telling me chipper is retiring….
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Q: How do you feel as a fan about your front office not reading the player’s contract before pulling the trigger on the trade?
And it’s Francesa.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Gooddell really hates being lied to. I don’t think Spygate was all it was blown up to be, and I don’t think the advantage that teams complain about really was there… but even I am shocked by the disparity in penalties. I guess it’s a 1st rd vs two 2nd rounds, but damn… suspending half the coaching staff/front office, and what is likely to be rolling bans on a few defensive starters, my first reaction is that is a 5-win team this year. Maybe that won’t be the case and I’m overestimating the role of coaches, but damn.
On the plus side, even though they lost a 2nd, their 1st rounder next year will be way more valuable.
/oh yeah, jets tebow sanchez click click click
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:33 AM
I worked as a janitor at the Charlotte Renaissance Faire. I can sympathize.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:33 AM
Its reasons like this I wanted the Broncos stuck with the Tebow fiasco they created. Now I have to hope Pey Peys neck never allows him to do much.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:33 AM
After 2012. And I know you and I are both petrified that JMac will pry the beat from Hernia just to throw in a few PED drops.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:34 AM
kaiser, I lurked here for a couple of years before commenting. I saw Jason’s picks. First I celebrated, then I noticed my team’s flaws.
I also realize if I want to go to a site that is Chargers-centric, there are other places to go. The commenters in those places aren’t as…interesting…as all of you.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:34 AM
I hadn’t thought of this. you’re probably exactly right though. people here in Jax are FREAKING OUT about the Jags not getting Tebow. Shad KAAAAAAAAAAHN said they did everything they could to get him and people are calling him out.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:34 AM
Charlotte Renaissance Faire
This crowd I cannot imagine.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:35 AM
Denver fans – how do you feel about your pussy-ass GM not realizing the Jets were up shits creek, which only flows one way, and holding firm knowing there were better offers out there anyway. Why not ask for an extra pick or something. Split the difference? He just gave them an extra $2.5M.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:35 AM
twitter is telling me chipper is retiring….
After 2012.
ahh I see.. missed that part. Looks like he wants a farewell tour. Good for him.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:35 AM
They’re each others closet sponsors.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:35 AM
Mole, I can’t get over how badly Liverpool took it up the ass against fucking QPR!!! Ugh, I hate that team now.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:35 AM
Man… it must be a shock for them to learn there was a pro football team there, huh?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:36 AM
True, but I still enjoyed the HBO documentary on Namath.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 AM
Tim Tebow & Linsanity have pretty much killed the Internet for me. I used to think the Internet had potential. To break away from the mindless shit that ESPN turned itself into a decade ago. To act as a vessel for sports related creativity. Insight. Etc. My hopes have been dashed. Civilization continues to crumble.
Or am I overreacting?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 AM
I’m pretty sure people in Miami are also FREAKING OUT that they ended up with Garrard.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 AM
I enjoyed the post though. The answers are surprisingly candid and honest.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Actually mostly yuppies. Those things are ridiculously expensive. But just imagine the smell of trashbags full of giant turkey legs and fish in 95 degree heat and 98% humidity.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:38 AM
I’ll do the Eagles again if we’re going to do it.
And, seriously I just want Hard Knocks back for the Jets this year. Make it happen HBO.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:39 AM
There weren’t better offers. They paid the difference basically because they just wanted the circus moved out, plus they got the 6th rounder.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Didn’t McElroy publicly corroborate a lot of the discontent in the Jets lockerroom? I’m surprised he’s even still on the team after that.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:39 AM
This x a lot. Taking advantage of media at his disposal was how TBL got here, and I think incorporating twitter/feedback into posts is a good way to give people ownership of the site.
Like how I ask @AlexSpeier about Bobby Valentine being so critical of his players to the press, and then he writes a column about it the next day. Probably coincidence, but maybe he got enough twitter comments about it that he though it important to write about it.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:40 AM
Of course not, those places are full of Chargers fans.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:40 AM
Speaking of, is there going to be another TBL commenters draft? If so I want in.
I think the same people should do it, except Spencer gets excluded completely. He can’t even watch for a $100. And why cant’ Jose pick for Cincinnati? At least he roots for Cincinnati.
This time, though, the goal should be to get the picks right, not social criticism by one dumbass.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Can you imagine these two rehashing their respective weekend with each other?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Saints.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:41 AM
And by “these two”, I meant Sanchez and Tebow.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:42 AM
If the Jets suck this year, why would Tannenbaum be reassigned w/in the organization? I’d reassign him to the closest Taco Bell.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Tim Tebow & Linsanity have pretty much killed the Internet for me. I used to think the Internet had potential. To break away from the mindless shit that ESPN turned itself into a decade ago. To act as a vessel for sports related creativity. Insight. Etc. My hopes have been dashed. Civilization continues to crumble.
Or am I overreacting?
the internet needs you Ritty. There is racism to scoff at. There’s a white guy in Florida whose only crime is shooting an unarmed black kid that needs you to defend him. You need to ask if they’ve checked the nearby sewers for the black kid’s gun, or if his accomplices were ever found.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:42 AM
agreed. I know I’m in a minority because I’m a little underwhelmed about the bounty stuff…just seems like it’s not as big a deal to me as it is to others. I think I’m wrong about that too, but I can’t shake the feeling that it’s just not as big a deal. however, I’m shocked at the extent of the penalties, especially the suspension of a head coach for a year.
I’m also shocked that Donte Stallworth is allowed to play. he killed a guy. like, killed him dead.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:43 AM
And, seriously I just want Hard Knocks back for the Jets this year. Make it happen HBO.
Saints.
You must like watching back-ups and UDFA’s on defense.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:43 AM
And, seriously I just want Hard Knocks back for the Jets this year. Make it happen HBO.
Saints.
You must like watching back-ups and UDFA’s on defense.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Love the “one pushes the other” and “putting a scare in” arguments. Shit doesn’t push shit to excellence, it just makes it appear less shitty. Polishing a turd.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 AM
And, seriously I just want Hard Knocks back for the Jets this year. Make it happen HBO.
Saints.
either of those, for sure. Or the Seahawks. Anybody, really. Even Jacksonville. Not Green Bay though.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 AM
I love that Tebow is so big now that him going to ride the bench behind an allegedly gay QB is front page shit when the Saints were just dump-trucked by Goodell.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 AM
I think I missed out last time. I’ll take Spences spot. But your ass better draft DeCastro.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 AM
QPR
one of the coolest soccer team names
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 AM
to continue the poop analogy…when two turds push each other, all you get is one giant piece of shit.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 AM
I’m with you… I just can’t get my outrage up except that it takes some heat from the Pats, until everyone compares it to Spygate, anyway.
Hated this signing. Never would have happened it MHK was still alive. For shame.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 AM
this is bullshit…i want the fucking browns pick.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 AM
I didn’t read the entire post, but the title completely contradicts your prior sentiments on the Jets getting Teblows. I read the first paragraph and understand you’re trying to provide answers on why this was a good trade so it’s confusing. In other words, the post’s title is terrible.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:46 AM
If you want to deny viewers Ted Thompson’s magnetic personality that’s your problem
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Who do you honestly think the Browns will take Spencer? I think they’ll trade out if possible … again.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:47 AM
gerard…LOL. And, ouchie.
I’m also shocked that Donte Stallworth is allowed to play. he killed a guy. like, killed him dead.
Don’t forget Leonard Little, miz.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:47 AM
But your ass better draft DeCastro.
fuck no. They just gave starter money to two guards, and there’s going to be at least 5 guys in camp who want those two jobs.
I got all hot and bothered yesterday about PFF and their assertion that Dre Kirkpatrick is a great safety prospect, in addition to being a really good corner prospect.
But no DeCastro. That ship has sailed. And not the third choice of the pass rushers, either.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Like Bono
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 AM
I think I’m wrong about that too, but I can’t shake the feeling that it’s just not as big a deal. however, I’m shocked at the extent of the penalties, especially the suspension of a head coach for a year.
two things conspired to make it severe….goodell’s hypocritical emphasis on safety, payton’s lying twice and covering up.
plus payton’s a smug and ugly sob. but from the start i thought it was bad….criminal even, akin to paying someone to kneecap an enemy. didn’t see the difference then and i don’t now
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 AM
They’ve got two. Can’t you share?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 AM
At this point, the only teams I expect to not do Hard Knocks would be Green Bay, the Giants, Pats, and the Eagles. Everyone else is fair game.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 AM
Thanks for motivating me. Nah, that guy deserves the 2nd degree murder charge that’s about to be sent his way. But are we sure that dude is white? Also, you will appreciate the friend of mine who made the argument at lunch yesterday that the victim should’ve known better than to be walking around with a hoodie on at night acting all suspicious. Of course, he also argued that if you pass out at the Krystal on Bourbon St. in New Orleans, you deserve balls in your face.
What I don’t understand, though, is how a white and/or Hispanic rent-a-cop retard is the new poster child for race relations in the country…or lack thereof.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:49 AM
Can we talk about traffic in the Atlanta area and have everyone go
“If you think that is bad try driving in ______________,______!” ? because that is a entertaining conversation right there
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:49 AM
Uh oh. It’s time for Vez to get on his award winning high horse again.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:49 AM
I had to do community service in college
i still owe moscow idaho 24 hours of 40….from 1986/7
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:50 AM
Actually he is latino
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 AM
I actually have no idea what the Pats will do. They’ve signed a bunch of defensive linemen and three WRs, they’ve got two young backs and Woodhead so Hoodie will want a vet. The roster spots just won’t be there for draft picks, so they’ve either gotta trade up and take a safety/CB to develop (yeah right) or trade back to next year (which because of the roster logjam, I’m okay with).
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 AM
Can we talk about traffic in the Atlanta area and have everyone go
“If you think that is bad try driving in ______________,______!” ? because that is a entertaining conversation right there
good thing you brought it up in this post!
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 AM
that the victim should’ve known better than to be walking around with a hoodie on at night acting all suspicious.
What if he was cold? We’re now governing outerwear? And, “acting suspicious” is subjective, yes?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 AM
I haven’t. I kind of assumed the intense media microscope that’s descended on the NFL (and sports in general) would have kinda weeded these guys out. Little played a while back and people still rightfully bring up his crimes. Stallworth is playing now and nobody seems to care.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 AM
We could talk wrestling, but I don’t know if TBL wants this place to become a known pedophile hangout.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 AM
To be fair, Sean Payton really is fuck ugly
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 AM
this is bullshit…i want the fucking browns pick.
you’re out, because you suck. Sorry. You went out of your way to ruin last year’s, as soon as you possibly could. Their pick was so fucking automatic, too. Every mock on earth had them taking Green.
So you’re out. It’s over. If you get in, I’ll protest, take both of Cleveland’s picks, and for the fourth pick, I’ll trade it for a bag of dog poop, which I’ll project to start at left guard. Then with the 22, I’ll take the worst eligible michigan player.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Well that would also be nice. I like DeCastro though. But that might be because its low risk and at this point I just don’t want to waste top picks. Either way its nice having the Garrett regime draft so far.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Actually he is latino
guilty
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 AM
To be fair, Sean Payton really is fuck ugly
He always looks like he’s coming off a bender and hasn’t slept in 4 days.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 AM
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
(hint: the word you are looking for is “trademarked”)
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 AM
At this point, the only teams I expect to not do Hard Knocks would be Green Bay, the Giants, Pats, and the Eagles. Everyone else is fair game.
I’d throw the Niners, KC, Browns, and Jags in there. Not sure Harbaugh would like this shit, and who wants to watch KC, Browns, and Jags practice?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:54 AM
At this point, the only teams I expect to not do Hard Knocks would be Green Bay, the Giants, Pats, and the Eagles. Everyone else is fair game.
bears would be good….cutler/marshall, grandpa lovie, meathead tice
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:54 AM
claiborne.
if every mock on earth was a turtleneck, what would be the point of regular turtlenecks?
/tactile-neck
//fuck you
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:54 AM
Are you calling me a pedophile? Because I like wrestling? Huh….that’s a good one. So anyone who likes wrestling is a pedophile?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 AM
49ers would be a good hard knocks.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 AM
It’s really tough to screw up a season of Hard Knocks, even the season with Herm Edwards’ Chiefs had its moments…and with the Browns there’s a good chance McCoy’s girlfriend would make a few appearances
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 AM
The Lions would be interesting. I’m not saying this as a homer, but people seem to hate them.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Hilarious.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 AM
So anyone who likes wrestling is a pedophile?
yup.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 AM
They’ve already got enough dog poop on the roster, don’t you think?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 AM
When my husband played football in high school he said they had bounties on quarterbacks. The quarterback on his team had his leg broken on purpose.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Well that would also be nice. I like DeCastro though. But that might be because its low risk and at this point I just don’t want to waste top picks. Either way its nice having the Garrett regime draft so far.
they brought in Callahan and he must have had say in getting guys. Guys on whom there is NFL game tape. Knowns at guard. It’s no longer a position of need. It will give them the flexibility to move down a spot or two, hopefully, if there are guys that fall.
But I’m on the Kirkpatrick train right now. Or backing way up (to maybe late 20s) and taking the center.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Speaking of wrestling, some wrestler was at the Hawks game last night. He looked way too skinny to be a wrestler. I was also shocked that he has 800K followers on twitter. CM Punk? Whatever the fuck that means.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 AM
And that means he can’t be white?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 AM
False. That would boring as hell.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Uh oh. It’s time for Vez to get on his award winning high horse again.
nobel peace pipe, prize, baby
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:56 AM
id love to see the browns practice…because i like watching bad things that are boring, you see?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Thats what the vicodin is for.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:56 AM
I bet that kid was scared out of his mind with some old dude watching him and following him around and then yelling at him. down here, they’re reporting that the kid didn’t even have the hood up until he noticed someone following him and he was talking to his girlfriend on his cell and put the hood up. he was probably scared shitless. I know I would have been scared at 14 if some strange man was following me around in the dark. hell, I’m 30 and I’d be worried now if somebody was watching me and it was dark outside.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Would be so awesome though. I don’t think Belichick could handle people realizing he’s really a funny/nice guy though.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Is Barack Obama white?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 AM
To be fair, Sean Payton really is fuck ugly
He always looks like he’s coming off a bender and hasn’t slept in 4 days.
plus his face says he’s softbodied like a plush toy
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Totally agree. Lovie has the personality of a bath mat.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Stallworth is playing now and nobody seems to care.
That fact blows me away. I freely admit forgiveness is important. A key question is “how much punishment is enough?” Why don’t more people care? I don’t have an answer, but that dead man’s family are probably frustrated at knowing Stallworth still gets to ply his trade.
Aaaand, you can tell I’ve not watched the Rams lately. Didn’t know Little was out of the league.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Is Barack Obama white?
muslims are sand colored, obvs.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Didn’t she say he was scared? I think some details from the conversation have come out. It nauseates me. If he skates, there’s gonna be some serious rioting.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 AM
So anyone who likes wrestling is a pedophile?
no no no, just likes boys a lot
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 AM
He always looks like he’s coming off a bender and hasn’t slept in 4 days.
Thats what the vicodin is for.
Yes! The circle is complete.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 AM
Lions would probably be my 2nd choice for this upcoming season. Also wouldn’t mind seeing the Ravens or the Steelers.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 AM
Sure.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:01 AM
When my husband played football in high school he said they had bounties on quarterbacks. The quarterback on his team had his leg broken on purpose.
my esteemed colleague watsonian thinks this is cool as long as it’s on a field
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Not even remotely true
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Didn’t know Little was out of the league.
for several years, but he didn’t get run out for killing somebody on his second DUI. He couldn’t rush the passer anymore. But he didn’t serve any one year suspension, or get his contract voided, either.
Stallworth got punished, mightily. He lost his job, he lost his upcoming salary, he sat for a year. But he was remorseful and made restitution to the family and did a bunch of junk to earn his second chance.
Payton will get a second chance, too. Gregg Williams may not.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 AM
I’d love it, but I don’t know if I would want my team being on the show. Atlanta is too boring, even though the NFL asked them after a few teams said no last year, but I was happy they said no. It would be fun to watch, but I just assume someone will do or say something stupid (like Roddy White) and it wouldn’t end well.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 AM
Quit bullshitting.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 AM
http://baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/3/22/trayvon_martin_faq_f
I suck at doing links, but this is the Sanford Police chief answering questions.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 AM
yeah. I think she told him to run or something like that. he’s not going to skate. I don’t think there’s any way this guy avoids jail time. I still can’t believe that he shot a guy that was an intruder in his house and there wasn’t an investigation until it became a national story.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 AM
It’s a little bit true.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 AM
Is Barack Obama white?
Sure.
‘the son of a black man from kenya and white man from kansas’
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 AM
http://iraffiruse.net/post/7679370606
lulz
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 AM
what I meant to type.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 AM
When my husband played football in high school he said they had bounties on quarterbacks. The quarterback on his team had his leg broken on purpose.
the NFL is trying to eliminate it from the culture of football with these harsh penalties, and the abstinence pledges the other teams have to make.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Say what now?
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Clayton, thanks for the clarification. Didn’t know about the restitution piece.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:04 AM
payton’s still good enough to put up with the headache, williams probably isn’t anymore.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Not in my case.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:05 AM
Lovie has the personality of a bath mat.
god dammit my wife thinks that white is a good color for bathmats, so me and the kids get yelled at for stepping on them unless we are in socks or barefoot
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:06 AM
old dude, here’s a story you can read about it, if you’d care to. The mentioned contract was voided.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 AM
He said it was self-defense, and the dead kid didn’t deny it?
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 AM
mis-typed that. see comment 145.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:08 AM
god dammit my wife thinks that white is a good color for bathmats,
at least you can bleach them. We have light yellow, and it sucks.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Why not sue the neighborhood watch? If it’s sponsored by the neighborhood, and they enabled this guy who was acting on their behalf, is that enough of a link for the family to get some restitution?
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Clayton, I read it. The Reyes family is full of grace. And, to his credit, Stallworth was a stand-up guy about it.
Howeva, what a needless, wholly preventable loss.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Seems ideal for a bath mat color. Puts much less of a premium on aim.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:11 AM
bathrooms should be painted brown.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:12 AM
I assume volunteer groups don’t have deep coffers to pillage
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:12 AM
he was self-appointed neighborhood watch. basically, he was a vigilante.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:13 AM
I’m confused why do people care what Joe Namath thinks?
i am confused why he is in the HOF.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:13 AM
Exactly. Dude deserves to spend the next 10 years in prison.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:14 AM
True or false: I held a terrified bunny hostage at gunpoint in my garage last weekend.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:14 AM
was he a balsamic vigilante? i bet he was some douchey raspberry vigilante.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:14 AM
the backstory just gets worse too. he has been this self-appointed neighborhood watch for a long time and has made dozens (50+ if I remember correctly) of calls to the cops about suspicious people in the neighborhood. a high percentage of those suspicious people were black…something like 80-90%.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:15 AM
false.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 AM
You’re a fucking asshole.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 AM
false. the bunny was not terrified…only pretending to be scared while waiting for you to turn your back so it could jump up and eat your brain stem out in one bite.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 AM
My point was that if they were acting in an official capacity through the HOA or whatever. Apparently not.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Damn. I mean…just damn. 17-year-old kid just walking home from the store was the victim of this ass-hats racial issues.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:19 AM
yeah. i guess the neighborhood liked him doing what he was doing though, unless they didn’t even know about it.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Only 10? He shot an unarmed kid.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:19 AM
also, this just came to me and I hate it that it’s going to be buried down in the 170′s instead of near the top of the thread:
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:21 AM
not that it really makes a difference, but I’m pretty sure the kid was only 14 too.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Commenter Draft? How many rounds?
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Should have finished the job, I heard they’re good eatin’
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:22 AM
This guy is a cop wannabe….and has been in trouble with the law before..some times when a person gets in trouble with the law afterwards they try their hardest to become a cop and when they fail they just start enforcing the law how they see fit. I think it is safe to say this guy is a fucking loon.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:22 AM
That’s because he’s a winner!
/Roll Tide.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:23 AM
Well, I should say he deserves to be in jail longer, but I suspect 10 is the most he’ll actually see.
Everything I read said he was 17, but like you said, it matters not.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:24 AM
I didn’t know George R.R. Martin (Game of Thrones’ creator) was a Jets fan.
Here’s his blog on landing Tebow: http://grrm.livejournal.com/274213.html
Wow.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 AM
If they find out he is crazy he’ll probably rot in a mental institution
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 AM
TBL, late to this because you hate the West Coasters, but I really liked this format of answer/linking the tweets. Also, can’t really argue with your thoughts, though I think the biggest risk is Sanchez regressing because Tebow is taking snaps away, leaving the Jets with two below average QBs at the end of the season.
Great post!
/seriously
//starts reading the comments
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:27 AM
There’s no chance in hell this guy sees any jail time.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Speaking of, is there going to be another TBL commenters draft? If so I want in.
I’m down, though I may need someone else to take the lead in organizing. We’ll figure it out and put up a post.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 AM
great, at least now we know the Song of Fire and Ice saga will ultimately end in a disappointing fashion much like the Jets seasons do.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Say what now?
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:29 AM
He’ll be begging to go to jail when the riots start and a group of folks hunt him down.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Should have finished the job, I heard they’re good eatin’
hasenfeffer
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:30 AM
I’m in again, unless Cleat or CJ really wants it, but otherwise they are welcome to give me suggestions.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:30 AM
for scripty…behind the scenes pic of hans gruber and mclane. awesome.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:30 AM
I’ll take Atla…
Oh wait.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:31 AM
I’ll take the Steelers again if nobody else has. Also, I say Spence gets the 2nd Browns pick, that way he can’t screw up the draft early with another reach like last year.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:31 AM
I stopped going to pft because he throws up posts with headlines that make you want to click and he is rehashing some shit he threw against the wall to see if it will stick, all in the name to get page views.
The most egregious one recently was one on the Saints bounty stuff two weeks ago. Headline was something like “Saints penalties will be limited to fines and loss of draft picks”. That sounds like a scoop. Then, inside, he just rehashed everything and provided nothing new, but clarified that the Saints organization would probably have fines and loss of draft picks, while individuals could still be suspended. Thanks for that. I thought the actual building the Saints played in would be suspended.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:31 AM
yeah, he’s not going to last long on the outside if he stays in town.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Florida is the easiest state to get away with “justifiable” homicide. He’s going to walk under Florida law. Book it.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:34 AM
I’d bet some cash he doesn’t, actually.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:35 AM
I mean you realize there’s a reason he hasn’t been arrested or charged with anything right? It’s his story and the 911 call against nothing else. Going to be very very hard to convict him.
The law does not work like A Time To Kill.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Like where they said evidence and “testimony” made them not arrest him.
The classic “he said”-”dead guy” case.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:39 AM
YOU UNDERESTIMATING MATTHEW MCCONAUGHEY? ARE YOU!?
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Have I mentioned that the dog in the hat rules this site? He does.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:48 AM
husker – you may be right about him being 17. the news here said 14 at one point last week and showed pictures of the kid that make him look that young at least. I just googled and everything I see says 17 now.
March 22nd, 2012 at 1:37 PM
I guess it’s just not possible to reserve judgment until one sees what transpires on the field, and how Tebow is slated to be used.
March 22nd, 2012 at 4:51 PM
I don’t get the outcry at all, Sanchez is simply not a good QB. Tebow’s a year younger, is getting paid less money, his first year as a starter was way better than Sanchez’s first year, and his ability to run the ball makes his 2011 season just as good as Sanchez’ career best 2011.