Your NCAA Tournament Bracket is Better Than the Associated Press Says
March makes amateur statisticians out of folks who don’t know a mode from a mean. Behold, this representative Associated Press story that trots out the old saw of how unlikely you are to pick a “perfect” bracket. In it, a math prof says the odds of picking winners at random and winding up with a flawless tournament prediction would happen once in 100 million trillion tries. To put that in some sort of perspective: Count all the insects living in the world right now. Multiply that figure by 10. Now we’re in the ballpark.
It’s a number so large that the word “large” doesn’t belt it. It’s also hogwash. Astronomical figures around guessing odds are among the lazier statements issued around sports journalism. (Another willfully errant figure: Referring to football fields, which are 120 yards long, as a unit of measurement equal to 100 yards.) The logic that says you have a one-in-100,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance of picking a perfect bracket would also say you have a one-in-1,000,000,000 chance of dialing a friend’s cell phone number on the first try even though you know the city and state where he lives. That logic assumes you are a dog, pushing buttons with your nose.
The bracket isn’t dice; it’s a puzzle to be pondered. You choose winners based on myriad real-life factors that you believe will affect the outcome of the games. The most obvious of these is the mascot rule, in which you imagine the results of a cage match between schools mascots. (In that Final Four this year: the Iowa State Cyclones, the Marquette Golden Eagles, the Montana Grizzlies and the San Diego State Aztecs.) The second-best practice is to note the seeding and derive from it a notion of tendency. Conveniently, the seeds are almost all arranged in such a way that predicting winners is better than a 50/50 proposition. The 8/9 pairing and the 7/10 are tossups, yes. But since 1985 (the “modern era” of the bracket) a #16 seed has never won a game. A 215-seed has beaten a 152-seed only four times and in each of those instances lost the following game. These odds in the quintillions shrink somewhat when you realize fully an eighth of the teams aren’t realistically in play.
The #14s and #13s do significantly better and yet are still nearly irrelevant past the first round. I’m relying on RJ Bell’s counts here: in 23 of 27 years, one of those weaker seeds won a game. But the 432 Sweet 16 teams since ’85 have included just six 13/14 seeds. At the top, things are almost as predictable: about three-quarters of 1-seeds advance all the way to the Elite Eight. And no team worse than a 4-seed has won the championship since Danny and the Miracles carried #6 seed Kansas in ’88. To put that another way: Three-quarters of the field has approximately no chance of winning the title. So don’t pick ‘em.
I say that as some kind of caution — but of course you didn’t pick a 12-seed to win the title, unless you’re a VCU alum. The odds are that unless you let a dart-throwing chimpanzee make your picks from play-ins to New Orleans, your odds of hitting a perfect bracket are way, way better than the mid-quintillions that you’ve been sold. Hell, your chances probably aren’t worse than one in a few billion, at the very worst. Still, in a word: hopeless.

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March 15th, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Yeah. And the entire math section of this post above this is about what would happen if you flipped a coin for each game, you know, so, random.
You are horrible. Get out.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
And go with two 1 seeds making the Final Four.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Astronomical figures around guessing odds are among the lazier statements issued around sports journalism.
you are bad at writing. That is a terrible sentence.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Oops.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
I take it Eifling has reached Intern Bill (or was it Bob?) status where it doesn’t matter what he writes, right?
/didn’t read this post
March 15th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Let’s talk spreads folks! Anyone see anything interesting? I personally like Louisville this morning laying the 7. That line moved quicky higher from the opening line, and Louisvile seems to have righted the ship.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Sam Eifling fucking sucks. Who in the fuck pays this guy? And why?
March 15th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
The answer to the first question is TBL. The second one is…well…he went to Northwestern? He wrote a piece (more than one?) for Grantland?
March 15th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
Picks today:
Ohio State -17
Long Beach St +4.5
Baylor -8
Vandy -5
Michigan -6 (all the ‘sharps’ like Ohio)
Southern Miss +6 (all the ‘sharps’ like KSU)
New Mex St +6.5
UNLV -5
Missouri -21.5
Iowa State +2.5
March 15th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
im confused.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Why not go the other way then?
/seriously asking
March 15th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
The Be Sharps?
March 15th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
my middle name must be “he ain’t shit” cause every time i’m in the car bitches be like “he ain’t shit!”
i’ll be dat
March 15th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
I will confess to not reading this because it’s probably a pile of shit. Not because I’m lazy, rather I’ve wasted minutes of my life reading some of his other dreck.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Missouri plays tomorrow
March 15th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
KSU -5.5 is the big play today. Under 117 in the UW/Mont game too.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Montana. Take the points.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Since 2000 the average win margin for the 2 vs. 15 game is only 14 points
March 15th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Well if you know the city and state, in most places that would mean you know the area code, so his math is wrong. Never mind the fact that the first number cannot be zero, so in reality the odds are 1 to the 9×10^6.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Seriously, the Eifling hate is out of control. At least be constructive about it.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Summation of this post: Math professor says the odds for picking the tournament completely right at random are astronomical (which is right). Sam says this is wrong because picks aren’t made at random.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
this is the least excited i;ve ever been about march madness.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
dialing a friend’s cell phone number
I do not have a single phone number memorized that is not the number for my childhood home.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Sharps
Can they retire this phrase? This used to be useful for the 4 months early money action was online but now it’s used by every junkie gambler and that “sharp” money is neither actual or helpful.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Same here, though we have a TV in the office so we’ll put it on and I’m sure I’ll pay attention.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
likewise. i dont know any new phone numbers, but i still can remember all the numbers for late night delivery pizza before cell phones became ubiquitous.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
I’m one of those guys that got his jewels snipped at the start of the tournament so I could sit around all weekend and watch games. I have to say the 2008 tournament was the one I least looked forward to.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Kind of there with you. Going golfing today.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
agreed…lets direct this hatred towards the person who deserves it. janoff.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
OOO!!!
/shot 81 yesterday
March 15th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
This is a very nervous day for bookies doing their first mega-tourney when their house cashflow adds a few zeroes.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Too dark to play 18?
I’ve been working on my game a lot lately. Had been putting great but they just punched the greens a little over a week ago so it’s gonna be another round of Plinko.
Can get rid of the block cut I was telling you about on the range, but it creeps in on the course. If I can hit a few more GIR, I’m back in the 70′s.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:51 AM
Don’t hate the Janoff, hate the press release
March 15th, 2012 at 11:51 AM
/shot 81 yesterday
And you’re commenting on a blog today? Shouldn’t you be running from the cops? You monster.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:51 AM
Looks like someone got a gmail threat.
He completely misrepresented the article this is based on (a bad article to begin with) and did some really bad math. That’s as constructive as it can get. Or this: don’t write stupid articles like this.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Seriously, the Eifling hate is out of control. At least be constructive about it.
Stop writing.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Kind of there with you. Going golfing today.
i think that might be part of it, though a large part is directly related to Maryland’s irrelevancy in college hoops recently. from what i’ve seen from Turgeon so far, i’m convinced he’ll change that soon enough.
and i’ve played 3x so far this year, each round worse than the previous. yuck…
March 15th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
na…just couldn’t make any putts (34 for the day).
how bad does it cut? i mean, if it’s just a block fade, just stick with it the rest of the round.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
I’ve set 4/16 as the week I’ll return to the course. Going to try to only do range sessions until then. I have no interest in going out and spraying off the tee and then playing out of the murk.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
/shot 81 yesterday
nice…
my first three rounds of ’12: 83, 92, 98.
fuck.my.life.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
Hopeless says it all.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
I liked this article better when it was written…by 50 different people every single year since the tourney expanded to 64.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
how the fuck did you shoot 98? for someone who hits it tee to green like you do, that’s mindboggling.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
block cut
not enough shoulder turn, imo. i have the same problem from time to time, especially when i’m trying to control ball traj.
March 15th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
You have to fucking pay to watch the games from a pc this year?
March 15th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
surprised the comments aren’t closed on this one…
March 15th, 2012 at 11:59 AM
The first round is often good. You focus on fundamentals and contact and you dont do bad at all.
Then you say to yourself, dang I was rusty and did okay, imagaine when I apply all this shit I read in golf magazines all winter = 98
March 15th, 2012 at 11:59 AM
Nah, the block fade I’m fine with. Never hit a shot OB. Hit more GIR’s using more club. But usually just after the turn, my concentration lags, I get lazy and it turns into a straight out cut. Hitting my 170 yd club 150 yds with about a 20 yard tail on it. No fun. I know what I’m doing wrong, I’m just not sure of the first step in my sequence that I need to change/fill in with something else to avoid that. I’m getting my second lesson of the season some time next week to continue to work on it.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
how the fuck did you shoot 98?
50 at the turn and 48 on the back? the worst part is i’m putting extremely well, just have NOTHING WORKING WITH THE IRONS!!
/wu-sah
March 15th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
That might be part of it. Last year I was making too much shoulder turn and it got my hips out of line. Worked it out toward the end of the year but I think I’ve exaggerated the fix. We’ll see.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
that’s the problem right there. 95% the shit they prescribe in GD and golf magazine is straight up garbage and the 5% that’s worthwile never gets expanded on.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
When they close the comments you lose your identity and become BigLeadSports. I heard Janoff went crazy when they told him he was losing his byline and threw a stack of press releases out of the top floor of the BigLeadSports Tower. He nearly killed a guy. Now he transcribes interviews on feces on the wall
March 15th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
100% chance that Michigan will not lose today. They play tomorrow evening.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Gmail threat? Has this actually happened to someone?
And the second part of your quote is probably appropriate.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
But usually just after the turn, my concentration lags, I get lazy
that kills me sometimes as well. it’s almost like i need a match with something on it to keep me concentrated at times.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
oh fuck that. that shit’s the worst…feel like you wasted a round when something that’s normally rock solid goes to shit.
ritty…maybe it’s your grip’s fault. i know my grip tends to get progressively stronger when i don’t pay attention to it for a period of time. maybe yours is just getting weaker and you haven’t noticed yet.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
remarkably similar tactic to the EIC ’round here.
/throws shit on wall
March 15th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
I thought I could get it for free by entering my cable provider? Oh well. $3.99 is worth it. Heading to a bar in an hour anyways.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
stark that’s the funniest thing you’ve written.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Gmail threat? Has this actually happened to someone?
Allegedly. JMac has appeared in the comments section before and asked at least one individual to email him or log into Gmail chat to talk.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Soon to reach Janoff status.
/ Actually, I did like his Nolan Richardson piece a few weeks ago
March 15th, 2012 at 12:07 PM
Possibly. Also had too strong of a grip last year and may be overcompensating. I’ve been working on the classic Hogan grip though, so maybe I’m just not used to it and my hand action needs to occur a split second sooner.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Interesting. Then again, bloggers have feelings too.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:09 PM
that kills me sometimes as well. it’s almost like i need a match with something on it to keep me concentrated at times.
If you don’t try playing just 1 ball, even on a throwaway practice round, and by all the rules. This will keep your concentration up.
I put all rounds to handicap so I hate to kill my # with a sloppy round. None of these is a cure all…
March 15th, 2012 at 12:09 PM
That’s why Nassau bets are my favorite.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:10 PM
I thought I could get it for free by entering my cable provider? Oh well. $3.99 is worth it. Heading to a bar in an hour anyways.
You lucky sonofabitch.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
totally…tho if you’re working on the hogan grip, you gotta have the hogan hip shift too otherwise it’s slice city. and if anything, you don’t want to release sooner…look at this pic, he still hasn’t released his hands yet.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:12 PM
God, I can hardly wait for The Masters to get here.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:12 PM
@Mr. Eifling- the problem with your post is that your entire argument appears to be constructed around this idea that the math professor in this AP article is incorrect and just spewing numbers. It’s almost as if you didn’t read the article. It appeared to me that the math professor was just demonstrating what your chances of picking a perfect bracket would be if you simply flipped a coin. They are very clear about pointing out the fact that flipping a coin for your picks is not the best chance towards a perfect bracket.
They even say: “For those setting their sights on winning their friendly office pool, there are, in fact, ways to improve your odds”
Then, they actually go on to list one or two ways for you to pick a bracket that would give you better odds towards perfection than just flipping a coin.
So, you basically criticized an article for something that it did not do, and then repeated some of the sames things as your own arguments that the article already stated.
In short, this is a very sloppy and terrible job of a post. I tried not to pile on and actually give reasoning as to why I think this is so.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:12 PM
I’ve been working on the classic Hogan grip though,
When I changed i was hit/miss for a bit but after a few months it became nature. taking that pressure off the right index helps. That drill he suggests where you take your right little finger and right index finger off the club is FANTASTIC. Your iron shows will have a such a pure trajectory.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:14 PM
When I do this, it’s usually because I’m three-putting every hole.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:15 PM
Yeah, the shift is the main issue. I get to the top of the swing and feel stuck. My hand action (leftover from old baseball days) is my best asset with the irons but I haven’t been in a position to use it lately. I can tell its there when I take pure divots.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:17 PM
this is a ton of my problem too. I can sit on the range and barely hold the club and hit perfectly. I get on the course and I am trying to strangle that fucker for some reason. I think a lot of my problem is mental, probably the onies I smoke on the course.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:21 PM
dude, i know exactly how you feel, especially with the THOUSANDS of HORRIBLE shots i hit in the process of learning that style of swing.
have you tried float loading? where you take the club back without cocking your wrists at all? it’s hard to get stuck and since it’s all about shift, when you make that initial hip turn, everything just falls perfectly into place.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:22 PM
This is the year for me. Before kids I was down to a 12. My two sons arent infants now and I can actually live a normal life and practice a bit again. I want to step on the first tee and think a 79 or worst case, a personal best at each course, is possible.
/Harness in the good energy, block out the bad. Harness. Energy. Block. Bad. It’s like a carousel. You put the quarter in, you get on the horse, it goes up and down, and around. Circular, circle. Feel it. Go with the flow.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:24 PM
you do drugs danny?
everyday!
March 15th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
wrong movie…whatever, that sounds like a ty webb quote if there ever was one.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:27 PM
spence you see my lmcc comment, $25 or $30 til end of march
March 15th, 2012 at 12:27 PM
Nope. But my swing coach (ha) and I are working on my takeaway that involves less wrist cock and creating the angle later in the backswing.
Honestly though, I went to the range yesterday and I blocked it all out. I went Bubba Watson on it and told myself I wanted to swing hard, make a healthy divot in front of the ball, and I wanted to try and alternate between hitting the fade and a draw. I pured enough that it was nice not to feel like I was overanalyzing…if that makes sense.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:28 PM
mustve missed that…BUT FUCK YES.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
makes perfect sense. the brain’s gotta get out of the way, somehow…via technical familiarity or mindset or whatever. i think we all know how much of a mindfuck the game is…shit, just look at some of the above comments.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:42 PM
@chicago: For the article cited (and there are others) to even cite coin-flip odds to fill out brackets is absurd. It’s a silly comparison, made strictly for the sake of being able toss out mind-boggling numbers. Imagine if the AP wrote a story about GPS by calculating the odds of ending up at grandma’s house by driving in a straight line and making turns at random. The very point is that no one picks brackets that way — so why use that as the baseline for comparison? A more germane figure would be to cite the number of perfect or near-perfect brackets that have actually been recorded. Or something that comes from the world of normal human reasoning.
And, seriously? “For those setting their sights on winning their friendly office pool, there are, in fact, ways to improve your odds.” This is such a no-shit statement that it can only be considered deadpan comedy. Wait, you mean there are factors other than heads or tails to consider when filling out a bracket? Do tell!
March 15th, 2012 at 12:51 PM
when shit hits the fan (and it’s about there now), i take only an 8-iron to the range.
no thinking, no drills, nothing… just beating balls (no homo) until i feel better about my swing and, normally, everything else falls back in place.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:52 PM
@ben80123: Good catch, mate. Thanks.
March 15th, 2012 at 12:59 PM
This is my favorite post so far today. Redman, FTW.
March 15th, 2012 at 2:05 PM
@Sam- I don’t disagree that citing coin flip odds for filling out brackets is stupid, but I just find it a bit ludicrous to take it as far to write a post tearing it down. It just feels like insanely manufactured outrage. It’s an article that isn’t directed towards anyone intelligent, and you can easily derive that from reading its tone and content.
I guess I just think your time would likely be better spent writing about other topics rather than deconstructing a stupid AP article that most of us would never read and already know is stupid.