Roundup: 2012 NCAA Tournament Bracket, Road Rage in Russia & Will Ferrell Answers Reporter’s Phone
Blake Lively … Halle Berry is engaged to actor Oliver Martinez … interesting peek behind the curtains of twitter’s (struggling) financials … “NSA whistle-blower: Obama “worse than Bush” … the erotic novel women are in love with … only 4 in 10 believe in evolution … Ashton Kutcher’s new girlfriend is a screenwriter … another kid got left behind at Chuck E. Cheese at a birthday … “12-year-old US girl suing school over Facebook comments row” … was this guy shot over the price of condoms? … Dick Van Dyke is 86, and recently married his 40-year-old makeup artist … kicked off a flight for their 2-year-old’s temper tantrum …
Enter our bracket challenge. This one or this one. Or both!
Houston point guard Kyle Lowry is out 2-4 weeks with a bacterial infection. Goran Dragic will start. [Chronicle]
Sad to see adults fighting over a high school basketball star. [NYT]
Twelve years ago, Shaheen Holloway and Tommy Amaker made an NCAA tourney run at Seton Hall. Now, they’re doing it at Harvard. [Star Ledger]
What’s wrong with Alex Ovechkin? [Wash Post]
After seven years in Tulsa, Doug Wojcik has been fired as head coach. [Tulsa World]
There weren’t enough people at the Pac-12 tournament for the Kiss Cam. [Daily News]
Drexel coach Bruiser Flint knew the Dragons were an NCAA longshot. [Inquirer]
Reminder: Sidney Crosby returns to the NHL Thursday. [Globe & Mail]
What Jon Gruden’s QB camp is like. [LA Times]
Bummer, Washington – no NCAA tournament, and now you’re going to probably lose your two best players to the NBA. [Seattle Times]
Will Ferrell, still funny. [via Adam]
Best dunk I saw at the college level over the weekend. Nasty facial. [via Cosby Sweaters]
Road rage in Russia: Watch what happens around the :38 mark and beyond. [via Adam]
- Christian Ponder Could Be Challenged for Starting Job by Matt Cassel, According to Adam Schefter
- Jozy Altidore is Hot, Jurgen Klinsmann is Making All the Right Moves, and US Soccer is on Fire
- Aaron Hernandez: Report Says He Has Not Been Ruled Out as a Suspect in Homicide
- Gregg Popovich, Shaky Down the Stretch, Was Surly With the Media Afterward [Video]
- Miami and San Antonio Game 6 Thriller Generated a Monster 14.7 Overnight TV Rating
- giggy09 on Jozy Altidore is Hot, Jurgen Klinsmann is Making All the Right Moves, and US Soccer is on Fire
- Some Random Old Dude on Miami and San Antonio Game 6 Thriller Generated a Monster 14.7 Overnight TV Rating
- Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah! on Gregg Popovich, Shaky Down the Stretch, Was Surly With the Media Afterward [Video]
- Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah! on Gregg Popovich, Shaky Down the Stretch, Was Surly With the Media Afterward [Video]
- s1rweeze on Christian Ponder Could Be Challenged for Starting Job by Matt Cassel, According to Adam Schefter
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March 12th, 2012 at 8:22 AM
Road rage in Russia: Watch what happens around the :38 mark and beyond
i’m unimpressed.
March 12th, 2012 at 8:26 AM
It’s nice that the NCAA put Iona in the tournament over a bunch of teams that deserved it just so that a team from the #1 television market in the country could be in the play-in games that nobody watches.
March 12th, 2012 at 8:26 AM
Russia is just incredible. No road lines, no guardrails, miles of wasteland in every direction, and citizens treating the highways like a MarioKart track. Hugely anticlimatic ending, though.
March 12th, 2012 at 8:30 AM
Queefer enjoyed the road rage video, the Real AC less so.
Put me down as: Neat.
March 12th, 2012 at 8:31 AM
Queefer enjoyed the road rage video, the Real AC less so.
i was just hoping for a fight or crash at the end. agree w/ Queefer on the anticlimatic ending
March 12th, 2012 at 8:36 AM
This. When an angry Russian gets out of the car you figure something mind-boggling is about to go down. Instead, the video just stops.
INCREDIBLE NAKED KATE UPTON VIDEO!
/ends millisecond before bra falls off.
March 12th, 2012 at 8:41 AM
/cries
March 12th, 2012 at 8:42 AM
That evolution stat is the most depressing thing I’m likely to read all month.
March 12th, 2012 at 8:42 AM
I saw Radiohead last night and the protesters from the Westboro Baptist Church showed up. I know it was meaningless, but I derived great joy in giving them the finger and provoking a response.
March 12th, 2012 at 8:43 AM
INCREDIBLE NAKED KATE UPTON VIDEO!
/ends millisecond before bra falls off.
it was that video that made me fill out an application as one of those dudes who holds a light on the model for photo shoots.
March 12th, 2012 at 8:43 AM
“NSA whistle-blower: Obama “worse than Bush”
We’ve had enough of your lefty agenda. Stop.
Ashton Kutcher’s new girlfriend is a screenwriter …
Her first credit is an adapted work? Hmm. Must be banging people.
March 12th, 2012 at 8:44 AM
my damn computer speakers aren’t working. this week is off to a rousing start.
March 12th, 2012 at 8:44 AM
Actually, how do you not have an opinion on evolution either way? What kind of response is that? How can Gallup even include that as a choice?
“Sir, do you believe in evolution?”
“Eh, I don’t really care either way, bro. I’m just L-I-V-I-N”
March 12th, 2012 at 8:48 AM
you want make fight, friend? fuck your mother. nyet, nyet…i not even bother with pizda like you.
March 12th, 2012 at 8:48 AM
“did the giants win the super bowl?”
i don’t have an opinion on that.
March 12th, 2012 at 8:49 AM
Bummer, Washington – no NCAA tournament, and now you’re going to probably lose your two best players to the NBA.
Wasnt Miss St. just as bad, if not wose?
March 12th, 2012 at 8:50 AM
It’s unbelievable so many people in our country are so ingnorant to science.
March 12th, 2012 at 8:51 AM
I’m apparently still asleep.
March 12th, 2012 at 8:53 AM
It’s nice that the NCAA put Iona in the tournament over a bunch of teams that deserved it just so that a team from the #1 television market in the country could be in the play-in games that nobody watches.
As an Iona alum, I can assure you that maybe 2% of people living in NYC even know Iona exists. Nice try though. And I will admit I didn’t think we had a shot to get in but I sure as hell don’t think any of the first 6 out have a great argument except maybe Drexel.
March 12th, 2012 at 8:56 AM
Do you guys think Wall St. will shut down this Tuesday to watch the Iona play-in game? The buzz in New York right now is palpable.
/no one
March 12th, 2012 at 8:57 AM
That evolution poll is from 2009. TBL, why’d you post that today?
/doesnt have an opinion on that
March 12th, 2012 at 8:59 AM
I believe they showed up to the funeral services for those killed at Chardon HS a week or so ago. Apparently some residents were planning ok forming some kind of wall so that those attending the services would not be bothered. When the sheriff heard he asked people to refrain from confronting them because that’s what they are hoping for. I guess they hope for confrontation so their attorneys can sue for damages
March 12th, 2012 at 9:04 AM
It’s nice that the NCAA put Iona in the tournament over a bunch of teams that deserved it just so that a team from the #1 television market in the country could be in the play-in games that nobody watches.
Yes, the outrage over one team that is roughly the 45th to 55th best team in the country getting in over other teams who are roughly the 45th to 55th best (at best) should be huge today.
I would have personally taken Drexel, though I picked that they would take Iona last week based on a better strength of schedule. But I’m certainly not going to get worked up over it.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:05 AM
Looking forward to this week: NFL free agency starts where your team will overpay, the Saints and Gregg Williams should know what fines/suspensions they get and NCAA tourney starts. Add WCHA mens fozen five takes place and another WCHA womans hockey team will win the NCAA crown again.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:05 AM
I believe they showed up to the funeral services for those killed at Chardon HS a week or so ago.
did they actually show up? i heard they were going to, but didn’t think they would.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:05 AM
one of the best weeks of the year. start of the tourney, and st paddys in dallas.
/flexes green boner
March 12th, 2012 at 9:07 AM
HEYALL, WE AH-RISH TUH-DAY. YEEEEEEEHAW!!!
March 12th, 2012 at 9:07 AM
The Westboro people are about 5 years from some WACO-esque incident.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:08 AM
If anyone wants to get in a NCAA Survivor pool instead of the normal brackets, I run one for $40 an entry (all the money gets paid out I don’t take a cut). Its run on tournamentpools.com. You pick 1 team each day to win starting Thurs, can’t pick a team twice. Its really fun and its never even lasted til the Final 4 before we had a winner.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:11 AM
Christ. All the bracket challenges are blocked at the office. What a rip.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:11 AM
HEYALL, WE AH-RISH TUH-DAY. YEEEEEEEHAW!!!
March 12th, 2012 at 9:12 AM
i meant to make a comment. and it was stupid so i erased it.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:12 AM
I’m retired from the Greenville parade.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:12 AM
I want to know more about the 1% that didn’t have an answer. did they just leave dead air on the phone with Gallup called?
March 12th, 2012 at 9:13 AM
Add WCHA mens fozen five takes place and another WCHA womans hockey team will win the NCAA crown again.
BGSU Hockey advances to CCHA semis for first time in a decade. Two wins would give them the most shocking NCAA hockey birth in history, possibly.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:13 AM
Dallas may be a fine city, but it can’t be in the top 10 of best cities to enjoy St Patricks day.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:14 AM
no way.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:15 AM
Ryan Bingham is playing Saturday in Dallas, kind of upset my parents picked this weekend to come visit.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:15 AM
Dallas may be a fine city, but it can’t be in the top 10 of best cities to enjoy St Patricks day.
on the surface, i would agree with you. but for some reason, dallas always goes nuts. they have a big parade, then the city blocks off a section of greenville avenue (where alot of bars are), and a ton of people come down there and drink in the street. bands are playing, tons of food, and people are s canned by noon. then everyone filters out into the other bars about 3. its a freaking blast.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:16 AM
eventually their caravan has to get stuck in a freak snow storm and they go all Donner party on themselves. at least that would be fantastic karma.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:16 AM
I’m having this same problem. I could talk to IT, but I think they did me a big enough favor (for free) unblocking this site.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:16 AM
Agreed…New York, Chicago, Boston and Philly all would be much better.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:16 AM
What’s number one? NY? Boston?
/slow day.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:17 AM
Scratch that, they freed up the site for the office bracket challenge. It’s a CBS Sports one though.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:17 AM
I didn’t hear much about it aside from the initial news that they would, which makes me think they didn’t actually show up
March 12th, 2012 at 9:17 AM
HEYALL, WE AH-RISH TUH-DAY. YEEEEEEEHAW!!!
Pulls a potato from pocket, throws it in the air. Pulls .45 pistol from my holster and shots aforementioned potato.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:18 AM
Savannah, GA = pretty fantastic
March 12th, 2012 at 9:18 AM
Plus, TBL made 20 bucks from all of your page views.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:18 AM
What’s number one? NY? Boston?
NYC is pretty awesome but Savannah was the best I’ve been to.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:21 AM
Everyone is busy filling out their brackets, trying to decide if they are picking Belmont over Georgetown (I’m not) or NC State over San Diego St. (I am).
March 12th, 2012 at 9:21 AM
I thought every dunk you saw was considered the best dunk of the year. I’m confused.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:21 AM
How cool would it be if there was a very small pay scale for the most frequent commenters? I know I don’t contribute much, but a lot of the other guys really add a ton of quality to this website.
/dare to dream
March 12th, 2012 at 9:22 AM
Does sound like a lot of fun.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:23 AM
Stereotypical Russian player. Saw a stat this morning that probably isn’t true but Crosby still has more 3 or more point games this year than Ovi.
Two pop ups this morning. Nice.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:23 AM
More importantly is what the best cities for Cinco de Mayo would be
/Team tequila
//Until I’m 25, when I’ll probably be too old/not female and I’ll have to start drinking scotch.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:25 AM
Did anyone watch “The Announcement” last night? A bunch of radio talk show people are raving about it this morning. Will have to find out if it’s being re-aired.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:27 AM
Yuck. I guess Ashton’s thing is having relationships with older women past their prime but banging hot young chicks on the side?
March 12th, 2012 at 9:29 AM
Did anyone watch “The Announcement” last night?
I do recall this as one of those “where were you moments”.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:29 AM
I’m taking Adams over Fabar in the Poole because Neeeeeeeeeeerds! will give Adams the statistical analysis advantage for facing Faber’s guards and forwards.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:29 AM
Watched. Thought it was great. I also really liked the Bill Simmons interview that followed the show. Loved the insight Magic provided about the 1992 Dream Team as well.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:30 AM
I need major bracket assistance today.
So he’ll be back on the shelf by Sunday if recent trends are any indication.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:30 AM
And Marshall, who, you know, beat Iona.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:30 AM
Time to unplug from the corporate network and tether on iPhone
March 12th, 2012 at 9:31 AM
I remember “the announcement,” and all that aftermath, vividly. I have no desire to get that bummed out again.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:32 AM
+1
Plus, it’s staged…why are all these people suddenly riding around with cameras in their car.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:33 AM
Spoiler alert: He lives.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:33 AM
I don’t know but I don’t like it. I was all about Malkin & Ovechkin when they first came into the league, but had to settle on Ovechkin exclusively because of my Crosby hatred. This year I could fully support Malkin for a while, but that train is ending.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:33 AM
Went to Savannah 2 years ago for St. Patty’s.
Holy. Shit. I had no idea.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:33 AM
I remember it too, though perhaps not as vividly. Still, I generally enjoy those retrospective looks at things I’ve lived through just to view things through the modern perspective/mindset.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:34 AM
would it be wrong to bring a personal laptop (tethered) into the office to watch March Madness this week?
March 12th, 2012 at 9:34 AM
If I was new to this site and was checking it out for the first time, there is no way I’d ever come back here. The constant pop-ups, script errors and slow load times are ridiculous. I wish I didn’t like you assholes so much.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:34 AM
Didn’t Marshall also lose to, you know, Central Florida, Tulsa, and East Carolina?
March 12th, 2012 at 9:34 AM
My thoughts exactly. I know everyone has a video camera on their phone these days, but this sort of video just doesn’t look authentic.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:34 AM
Spoiler alert: He lives.
Shane did not.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:35 AM
Magic Johnson taught me one thing: money defeats HIV
March 12th, 2012 at 9:35 AM
The Annoucement was OK. Magic’s narration was atrocious and should have been completely axed. Sounded like a child talking.
After watching Senna, I’m convinced that strictly archival footage is the way to go for all sports documentaries.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:36 AM
Love that Lori pretty much gave Shane a death sentence by being her typical annoying self and sending him mixed signals.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:36 AM
So, did Shane die the comic book death, or did the writers send him off by talking himself to death?
March 12th, 2012 at 9:36 AM
The 1st memory I have from the 90′s involving famous people was Tupac’s death, because my 6 year old equivalent of a girlfriend was crying about it, though I didn’t know who Pac was at that point. I completely missed Magic and OJ.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:36 AM
So, did Shane die the comic book death, or did the writers send him off by talking himself to death?
He died much earlier in the comic book… before they left the quarry. And Carl killed him before he was a zombie in the comic book, not after he zombie-fied.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:37 AM
Finally. NEWS ALERT: Lori is still a really shitty parent.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:37 AM
Stockholm Syndrome has taken hold!
March 12th, 2012 at 9:37 AM
Only if you get caught
March 12th, 2012 at 9:37 AM
Not to mention the lack of a mobile site and the terribly functionality of the main site through mobile browser.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:38 AM
Magic’s narration was atrocious and should have been completely axed. Sounded like a child talking.
That’s kind of Magic though. He’s really intelligent, just doesn’t come across as the most well spoken guy.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:38 AM
Right. I haven’t watched any of it. I was going to stack up two seasons and watch in DVR-gasm but the CDC episode changed my mind.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:38 AM
Holy shit I completely forgot I had a copy of that and still haven’t watched. I know what I’ll be doing tonight.
I remember Senna dying vividly. That and Earnhardt were two of the times I remember grown men crying in my house. Goddamn racing families are weird.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:39 AM
Magic Johnson taught me one thing: money defeats HIV
Did the show say anything about the volume of medication he needs to take daily? I wonder at what point, if ever, he stops panicking every time somebody in the room sniffles, sneezes, etc. Then there’s your whole relationship with your spouse. ugh.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:39 AM
This sounds like the old GW argument
March 12th, 2012 at 9:39 AM
As in Helsinki, Sweden.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
I quit watching The Walking Dead. You’re telling me Carl the kid shot Shane after he became a zombie? And that cunt Lori is still alive?
March 12th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
12 years old, hand gun from 25 yards, moving target. Bull’s eye!
March 12th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
Yeah, I didn’t think he was a dumb guy or anything, and his archival footage — even the off-the-cuff current stuff — featured some profound moments. But the narration sounded like it was written by a middle schooler.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
That’s a bad loss now?
March 12th, 2012 at 9:41 AM
So Savannah eh? I’ve been there twice, had a great time both times. Will have to go back again for St. Patty’s Day. I’m assuming its crazy on that row of bars down by the river.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:42 AM
I quit watching The Walking Dead. You’re telling me Carl the kid shot Shane after he became a zombie? And that cunt Lori is still alive?
yeah… the big reveal last night was that you don’t have to be bitten/scratched to become a zombie… once you’re dead, you become a zombie… unless someone blows your head off. rick knifed shane to death, and then carl comes out of nowhere and shoots shane after rick had turned his back on shane and didn’t know he re-animated.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:42 AM
Yes and yes. There’s also a stampede of zombies headed for the barn right now in the middle of the night.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:43 AM
Stockholm Syndrome has taken hold!
/As in Helsinki, Sweden.
Well played. His smug face going to embarrassed is hilarious.
That’s a good workout song by Muse too.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:43 AM
I would not have guessed this having listened to him talk for the better part of 20 years now.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:44 AM
Oh my fucking god you have got to be kidding me!! Fuck that fucking show. I’m surprised Rick had the balls to kill anyone human. Why’d he stab him?
March 12th, 2012 at 9:44 AM
Such an underrated line in that movie.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:44 AM
I would not have guessed this having listened to him talk for the better part of 20 years now.
he owns about a ton of businesses and has probably made more money away from basketball than when he played 10X over.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:45 AM
I don’t know, actually. I just went to KenPom and looked at rankings: they were #96. Not too strong, at least not this year.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:46 AM
And Marshall, who, you know, beat Iona.
Marshall wasn’t even on the committee’s first 6 out list, so I don’t think they are even in the conversation at this point.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:46 AM
WHAT IF the knife had old zombie funk on it and got to Shane before he expired?
Nah, those writers aren’t clever enough.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:46 AM
I love the guy but I still can’t believe they gave him a talk show. As much charisma as he has, he cannot host a show involving talking.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:47 AM
Fuck that fucking show. I’m surprised Rick had the balls to kill anyone human. Why’d he stab him?
shane was being typical shane… killed the hostage they had taken, told everyone that he had escaped and then lured rick out in to the woods to “look” for him. rick picked up pretty quickly that shane wanted to get him out in the woods alone and figured what was up. shane still wanted lori and carl for himself, so rick knifed shane before he had a chance to pull the trigger.
oh… spoiler alert!
March 12th, 2012 at 9:47 AM
Dallas may be a fine city, but it can’t be in the top 10 of best cities to enjoy St Patricks day.
Agreed…New York, Chicago, Boston and Philly all would be much better.
Isn’t there something called the ‘Running of the Micks’ in Philly?
March 12th, 2012 at 9:48 AM
Being an adolescent in the early 90′s sucked. The over the top hype over crack and aids had everyone telling you sex and drugs killed you, when in reality for most people they were still awesome. Talk about a buzzkill.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:48 AM
WHAT IF the knife had old zombie funk on it and got to Shane before he expired?
Nah, those writers aren’t clever enough.
also… daryl and glenn figured it out too… the hostage zombiefied without having been bitten… he just had a broken neck when they examined him.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:49 AM
Saw Senna twice in the theatre. Only movie I’ve seen in the theatre twice. It was seriously that good.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:51 AM
And how it wasn’t at least nominated for an Oscar is ridiculous.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:52 AM
Ok. That still doesn’t excuse how stupid he sounds when he breaks down a highlight. If only they had video of his opening monologue from The Magic Hour. Easily one of the top-5 unintentionally hilarious moments in tv.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:53 AM
I know UCF isn’t great, but they’re better than every team Iona lost to save for Purdue.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:54 AM
But he’s so smart!!
March 12th, 2012 at 9:54 AM
i think this death of shane was on par with the graphic novel’s death of shane, they handled the zombification much better than the original storyline did and made it more believable. in the context of that fictional world anyway.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:54 AM
So, this is a joke right?
I DVR that show….listen to everyone complain about it….and then watch it so I can see how ridiculous it is. This statement right here might be the thing that gets it axed off the DVR. How stupid.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:55 AM
Like seven months of Howard Stern in the 90′s was ripping on the Magic Hour. What ever happened to the Uncle Chester or whoever that comedian was…
March 12th, 2012 at 9:55 AM
he cannot host a show involving talking
But he’s so smart!!
There are plenty of smart people that probably couldn’t host their own late night television show. I don’t really see your point. The idiots are the people who gave him the talk show/analyst jobs just because of his name.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:56 AM
I think Xavier or Cal is probably less deserving than Iona though.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:56 AM
Being an adolescent in the early 90′s sucked.
it was worse being an adult in the early 90′s. At least you got to kiss a dude in college.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:56 AM
As much as I’m not a fan of where I live….KC does have a pretty good St. Paddy’s party.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:57 AM
So, this is a joke right?
no… and it was actually probably one of the better episodes this season… carl and his stupid fucking hat need to be disemboweled soon though.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:57 AM
I watched one episode of the show and realized I didn’t need 60 minutes of yelling at terrible plot fuck ups in my life right now. I’m convinced there’s a contract in hollywood that states characters in zombie shows/movies have to be written as the dumbest people alive.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:57 AM
Gotta love the playoffs. It means head-to-head and the regular season really don’t matter.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:58 AM
I DVR that show….listen to everyone complain about it….and then watch it so I can see how ridiculous it is. This statement right here might be the thing that gets it axed off the DVR. How stupid.
it was actually way way better than that description. The show has done a real good job of getting on track and episodic. It’s basically just a lousy show now. Not an abomination.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:59 AM
I wish I could find the Maxim magazine with the entire opening monologue written out (including the stuttering, stammering and several “umms.” I remember almost crying I was laughing so hard reading it. Dude’s apparently a genius though.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:59 AM
It’s not like they gave Magic the time slot after 60 Minutes. It was on either Fox or WB late.
/Hi, I’m Magic Johnson with a few tips on blowing up the Death Star.”
March 12th, 2012 at 9:59 AM
think this death of shane was on par with the graphic novel’s death of shane, they handled the zombification much better than the original storyline did and made it more believable. in the context of that fictional world anyway.
yeah… I kind of would have liked to have seen go off with the other group though. I know where the graphic novel is going to take the group, and I’m not sure I’m going to be a fan of that. Just seems like it’s going to be more of the farm stuff, only with an asshole tyrant running the the show instead of hershel.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Saw Senna twice in the theatre. Only movie I’ve seen in the theatre twice. It was seriously that good.
weird. I’ve probably seen 30 movies more than once at a theatre.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:01 AM
there’s nothing interesting about the smart people who barricade themselves in their home with stockpiles of food and guns.
except when they slowly go insane or kill themselves from isolation.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:02 AM
Wait, what? Marshall’s regular season is why they didn’t get in.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:02 AM
Am I the only person who hates the 12 seed play in game?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:02 AM
That’s why, if you intend to confront them, you make sure they don’t make it back out of your town to call their lawyers. It is going to happen. The Patriot Guard are going to end these people at some point.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:03 AM
Am I the only person who hates the 12 seed play in game?
I don’t think there’s anyone who likes any of the Tuesday play-in games. I’ve never really watched them.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:03 AM
Am I the only one that doesn’t find it all that difficult to suspend disbelief (for the most part) and enjoy The Walking Dead for what it is? A bad to average show with a cool premise?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:03 AM
there’s nothing interesting about the smart people who barricade themselves in their home with stockpiles of food and guns.
unless they going on foraging runs, and one dumbass gets in trouble with the group because he comes home after looting a jewelry store and has fifty giant diamonds, and no food, and he has to sleep outside as his punishment.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:03 AM
not that smart…he got the AIDS, you know.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:04 AM
I think the expansion to 68 is beyond retarded. Only the NCAA would fuck up how perfect 64 was.
But you could still do this and then open the story where they ran out of supplies and had to look for them, right? How often do they do that in zombie movies?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Am I the only person who hates the 12 seed play in game?
I hate everything, so no.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Well I mean, let’s not go too far in the other direction. He’s not functionally retarded just because he has a speech problem. He shouldn’t speak on TV sure, but that doesn’t mean he’s an idiot.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:05 AM
But why can’t we have more than that in a zombie show? Why can’t there be drama AND have smart, intelligent characters? Also, why can’t they hire an actor who can actually talk with a southern accent?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:05 AM
Am I the only one that doesn’t find it all that difficult to suspend disbelief (for the most part) and enjoy The Walking Dead for what it is?
I don’t think the people that hate on it dislike it because they can’t suspend their beliefs about the zombie world they live in… it’s because Rick and Lori would have the same conversation about life and death and whether or not it was worth living 20 times while their son was out trolling some zombie stuck in the mud.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:05 AM
Only the NCAA would fuck up how perfect 64 was.
keep thinking that when the NFL adds team # 33.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:05 AM
When did acting, public speaking, or presentation skills become the only indicator of intelligence?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:05 AM
I do hope they still end up going to the prison and the whole governor storyline is intact. I’m bummed they cut one part of the comic out when they found that gated community and set up shop there, only to find out it was infested with zombies. I could see how that would be a problem in terms of budget on that show.
AMC really just needs to let this show have a good budget, episodes with little to no action are the result of not having the money to do it
March 12th, 2012 at 10:06 AM
As a WKU alum I have to watch it tomorrow, it’ll be the 1st time I ever have.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:06 AM
I get the mindless entertainment argument…but it could at least be interesting mindless entertainment. It’s bad when you aren’t emotionally invested in ANY characters. The heroes of the show are the zombies that eat the characters you hate.
Speaking of zombies eating people….I really wish one would get Billy Wagner already.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:07 AM
No, you’re not. And thanks for not buying into the first round games meme the NCAA is trying to enforce.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:07 AM
Yeah, I don’t mind the new wrinkle about how you become a zombie even without a bite. That seems fine. Just means you should everyone who dies in the head, no questions asked. No big deal.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:08 AM
When did acting, public speaking, or presentation skills become the only indicator of intelligence?
apparently husker thinks Jay Leno is the smartest. person. ever.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:08 AM
You seem to have missed the head-to-head component.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Good point.
When did not being able to get better at speaking in public when you’ve done it for a decade mean you’re still a really smart guy?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:08 AM
I kind of like that the characters are mostly idiots. They lived in rural GA before the apocalypse and you expect them to all be intelligent? If they were really smart, we’d probably all be bitching about how good they are at doing everything and that nobody could possibly be that good. I think it’s much more likely that a group of idiots made it together and have gotten by so far just by being kind of lucky.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:09 AM
That’s the problem – zombies are a cool premise yet this show has managed to completely fuck up that premise with all unnecessary banter and having dead bodies reanimate even if they’re not bitten or injured by zombies. I enjoy a lot of fantasy novels and tv shows but not even I can suspend disbelief enough to like this piece of shit show.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:09 AM
Am I the only person who hates the 12 seed play in game?
When did they start doing this for the lower seeds? I thought it was only for the 16 seeds that they did this
March 12th, 2012 at 10:10 AM
If Zombieland taught me anything it’s that the double tap is rule No. 1.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:10 AM
This is probably true.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:10 AM
In London.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:11 AM
T-Dawg had more than 1 line last night!
Also, thought it was funny that rick still referred to him as “T-Dawg” in his super-serious conversation with Shane right before he killed him. Writers probably had to do that, as I doubt they’ve even told us his real name.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:11 AM
No chance. The ratings are already there for Walking Dead, so they don’t have to invest in it. They can use it as a cash machine to fund (probably) money-losing shows like Breaking Bad and Mad Men.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Shit. I don’t even know his real name. If it wasn’t for coming here, I don’t even think I would have remembered he was called T-Dawg.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Nothing that has occurred so far has ruled out that it could be a virus transmitted via the air as well as a bite (bite kills and turns you to a zombie, otherwise the air transmitted virus just waits until you die then takes over), so this doesn’t bother me at all.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:13 AM
AMC really just needs to let this show have a good budget, episodes with little to no action are the result of not having the money to do it
I’d also like to see flashbacks of what all of these people were like before the zombie disaster and as it was beginning… might make them a little more likable. I know that would be a blatant rip off of Lost, but that seemed to work for that show.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:14 AM
i’m curious – if you could start this show from scratch, how would it go in your mind?
I think there’s a lot of the “hate” for this show b/c it’s not fitting a narrow spectrum of what a “zombie” story should be. From the beginning, George Romero set the stage that anyone who dies, be it zombie bite or natural will come back as a zombie. this whole story is based on that knowledge.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:15 AM
I think there are lots of reasons for a logical human being to doubt evolution. The thinking here is that if you express any doubts about evolution it means you’re for creation or doubt that dinosaur fossils exists. The ridiculousness of creation or the existence of creatures that are not here anymore doesn’t necessarily explain how we arrived at today.
If I showed you 10 photos from an NFL game you can tell a game was played but not necessarily how the game progressed from quarter to quarter or who won it with great confidence. So if you said it looks like Team A won with defense because there was a picture of a tackle sure its plausible but still speculative.
I hate to post my own work so forgive me but if you’re interested… here
March 12th, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Wait, what? Marshall’s regular season is why they didn’t get in.
You seem to have missed the head-to-head component.
You seem to have missed the rest of Marshall’s schedule. They lost 13 games in a terrible conference and are a 5 seed in the NIT. 5 seed! You are beating a dead horse here.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:16 AM
From the beginning, George Romero set the stage that anyone who dies, be it zombie bite or natural will come back as a zombie. this whole story is based on that knowledge.
that’s also probably what Jenner whispered into Rick’s ear before he went boom with the CDC (which was actually the cobb energy center! The CDC looks more like a power plant than an art museum).
March 12th, 2012 at 10:16 AM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
March 12th, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Go Green!
March 12th, 2012 at 10:18 AM
As did college football, if I’m not mistaken. And every sport. Head to head isn’t the end-all be all in the regular season, just in the postseason.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:18 AM
Evolution is the 6 who carefully employed a 4 as her wing lady.
WHAT?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:19 AM
There’s where you lost me.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:20 AM
it help explains how…it doesn’t explain why. and as much shit i give creationists, we still don’t know the genesis of the universe and how this all got started trillions of years ago.
but i think the more sinister cynics amongst us would point not to the ridiculousness of creation, but more to the ridiculousness of moral profiteering and religion being used as a mechanism for social control.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:21 AM
Holy.Fucking.Shit
This guy totally beats Todd Charske.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:23 AM
My thoughts exactly.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:23 AM
You clearly have very little intelligence so no, thanks.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:26 AM
this is true, but for me much of the argument boils down to an explanation of how this world came to be from 2000 years ago versus the answers provided by 2000 years of science looking for evidence supporting the answer in the 2000 year old book.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:26 AM
We know how it DIDN’T start though.
/Team 6,000 years!
March 12th, 2012 at 10:27 AM
How do you know this without seeing a sample of his public speaking?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:28 AM
/team cavemen riding velociraptors like horses
March 12th, 2012 at 10:30 AM
exactly…it’s not the ridiculousness of creationism, it’s the ridiculousness of dismissing scientific evidence with the wave of the hand like after a fart that wasn’t loud enough to be funny.
david cross had a funny bit about this in one of his standups…the four horsemen of the apocalypse would have jet packs if the bible were written today. and if the four horsemen were after us…well, fuck it, just get in your car and drive away. “where are the horsemen? LA? well shit…we’ll just go to the east coast and figure it out again when they reach us in five months.”
March 12th, 2012 at 10:30 AM
If you’re living in a world terrorized by zombies and your entire purpose in life is to survive without modern conveniences then maybe you could, I don’t know, spend some time actually showing acts of survival?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
That’s what I like best about you. You are so accepting of other people’s opinions even when they differ from yours.
/Not reading that either.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:33 AM
I read it. You’re better off SG and Jose.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:37 AM
Damn I missed the Walking Dead discussion. I’ll add this: youre telling me the VERY NEXT NIGHT after Dale was killed by a walker on the outskirts of the farm, that Carl is wandering around, unsupervised in the middle of the night? Jesus Christ Lori, you deserve no children.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:39 AM
I disagree with your sarcasm. If someone makes an intelligent point that differs from my own, I will absolutely consider what they’ve said. I went to college and studied science for four and half years. I saw and read physical evidence of the existence of evolution. If you think fossils are fake and don’t believe in DNA then I can’t tolerate your opinion. Sorry.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:39 AM
I think its pretty clear here I’m not arguing for creation or by proxy religion. I am very comfortably agnostic. The physical evidence just doesn’t support creation. However this doesn’t mean that evolution becomes a winner by default.
We know what was from the physical evidence we don’t necessarily know the how’s and why’s of what is. We can speculate all we want but my guess is we’re going to make further discoveries in the future to color in the missing gaps.
If a bushman in Africa runs into a radio and starts hearing voices… he can open it up and mess with wires to increase volume, or clarity etc but if he never knew anything about radio waves he may come to conclusions based on the physical evidence that sound plausible but are ultimately wrong. My thinking is that our aha moment is yet to come.
And by the way, it seems what we have here is a number of folks who have the evolutionary question all figured out to the tee even though the best scientists in the field would tell you its a working theory and there are question. If life is the ultimate goal of evolution why did sexual reproduction evolve? Its a pain in the ass finding someone to have sex with. What is the evolutionary basis of death? There are hundreds of other questions like this that we are still trying to understand
March 12th, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Link? Please? Whether it’s a tease or not, it must be smokin’ hot.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Is it really that implausible to think that unintelligent people might still grasp at the bullshit and drama of their former lives rather than thinking in the logical manner that you’re describing? It’s only been something like 4 months since the apocalypse, right?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
from got_em_looking’s link…
what about all the extinct animals that weren’t able to adapt? i think the overriding theme in my distaste for that post simply boils down to not being able to understand the vast amount of time that the earth has been around.
the animals we see today are borne out of MILLIONS of years of evolution, and the 200k years humanity has seen is still but a parcel compared to that of the animal kingdom. we’re not the finished product in the slightest.
because these animals have a well defined caste system in place. the apex predators don’t need to because they’re at a genetic advantage over their prey while the prey have abundant natural resources for food.
you say “seems trees should’ve evolved and ran away from lumberjacks” in humor…well, considering lumberjacks are a relatively recent phenomenon, who’s to say they won’t evolve?
just because you’re looking at the sky with a $10 walmart telescope doesn’t mean you’ve seen it all.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Its a pain in the ass finding someone to have sex with.
It is? Seems like one of the world’s biggest issues is overpopulation.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:44 AM
I don’t know if you were referring to me but never said fossils where fact. I mean it physical evidence… but I refer you to my African bushman analogy playing with a transistor radio’s wires, he’s got physical evidence as well that sound comes from wires since he knows nothing of radio waves.
Somehow for you intelligence means believing evolution without question. Educate yourself.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:44 AM
I read that in the novel there is zombiefication after death so that wasn’t something they cooked up. Also liked how once Shane became a zombie that nearby herd of Zombies sensed it and headed for the farm. Of course, 50 minutes of the show was uselss shit, the Lori speech to Shane was fucking horrible. Looks like next week we will see more than just one or two zombies.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:44 AM
well, considering lumberjacks are a relatively recent phenomenon, who’s to say they won’t evolve?
some cacti actually fire their thorns/barbs(?) at you when you get near them, don’t even have to touch them!
March 12th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
The Earth is likely going to destroy humans one day. It’s been around a lot longer than we have, yet people are self-absorbed and don’t seem to realize this.
By hearing your arguments, got_em_looking, it’s become clear that you don’t really know anything about evolution.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
After all, he started up a movie theater business in the Internet/Wireless age! What a GENIOUS!
/yes, I know
March 12th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
the Lori speech to Shane was fucking horrible.
it was terrible, and she is an awful human being… but it did sort of get things rolling in shane’s head that lead to his ultimate death. typical woman sending mixed signals though.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
agreed.
they’re not mutually exclusive but evolution has wiggle room in the form of future research.
i lolled.
not sure what your asking here.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
SG, my fiance is now obsessed with Downton Abbey. Its really good. Thanks for the strong recommendation.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
What the hell happened here?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
I thought all the zombies came running because they heard Carl shoot Shane.
And this whole thing with instant zombie-fication.. how does that jive with Andrea’s sister, who died of the zombie virus and didnt reanimate until the next day? I guess if you die of other causes you become a zombie instantly?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Next week better just be a shitshow epic zombie/human killing battle/escape from the farm.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:47 AM
You don’t know what the word theory means in terms of science. I’m not being a dick, you don’t.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:48 AM
After all, he started up a movie theater business in the Internet/Wireless age! What a GENIOUS!
He also bought like a hundred starbucks right before idiots (read: most of the American public) thought it was totally normal to pay $4.00 for a single cup. So there’s that.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:48 AM
The Happening is a terrible movie.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:49 AM
how does that jive with Andrea’s sister, who died of the zombie virus and didnt reanimate until the next day? I guess if you die of other causes you become a zombie instantly?
jenner (CDC guy) said that it takes anywhere from 3 minutes to around 8 hours.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:49 AM
I think this is an example of human exceptionalism. We are sentient beings that have constructed a society; you can’t just go around raping people.
How could anything evolve in a finite space if not for death?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:49 AM
logical acts of survival are boarding yourself up in a house and waiting it out, being careful and not getting into survival situations. in other words, what the father and son were going in the pilot.
however, there’s a reason the father and son aren’t on the show. all the do is sit in their house, peeking from the windows and occasionally scavenging for food.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:50 AM
spencer096 ,
I totally argee with you in theory. We are looking a slivers in vast amounts of time that is completely incomprehensible to us. 99% of all species that walked the face of the earth is not here anymore… adaption buys you time yes.
I still don’t understand how the human version of intelligence was necessary for survival. Humans were apex predators very early in our existence… further evolution of intelligence wasn’t necessary to remain there. Its nice to have the internet and TVs and cars etc but i’m not sure nature cares so much if you didn’t as long as you’re around to make babies
March 12th, 2012 at 10:51 AM
I’m hiding indoors all week. Well, I may sneak out to catch the Killdares at Idle Rich.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Haha. Obviously I didn’t mean like that.
/strongly agree
March 12th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Not to get even more existential than I already am, but do you think if collectively we realized this it would really change anything?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
What’s your educational background, got_em_looking? Just curious.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
That. Just depends on the person for how quickly they get zombified.
I think I saw Herschel weilding a shotgun, I hope he uses it.
Perhaps. Either way they are coming. I want to say I should enjoy next week but I doubt it will live up to anything.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Don’t forget San Fran. Half the people I met there were actual Irish from Ireland (by way of Boston or NYC, of course).
March 12th, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Ok in your infinite wisdom explain to me the evolutionary basis of the first microbe. i’m guessing your statement is implying you understand everything about evolution
March 12th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
it’s not…much like the t-rex’s tiny arms weren’t necessary for survival.
and nature doesn’t care about human societal comforts…when it chooses to fuck it all to hell, it goes right ahead. and it’s that, coupled with what we know about how vast the universe is that leads me to be more comfortable with knowing im a grain of sand in this evolutionary desert.
but what we DO know is that nature has a way of cutting the fat, so to speak. nobody will remember our musicians or artists or comedians, but those things are simply social escapes from the harsh realities that most of us, as animals, are fucked.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
And per all the Walking Dead talk today … when will the zombies reach the writing staff and finish those fuckers off, so they can get some real writers in?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
jenner (CDC guy) said that it takes anywhere from 3 minutes to around 8 hours.
That. Just depends on the person for how quickly they get zombified.
There is a pretty huge plot hole though… how do they explain the dead people in the cars on the road? If they’re just chilling there, dead in their front seat, shouldn’t they either be zombies or have their heads blown off?
March 12th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
A certain quarterback and his gray peen would disagree with this statement.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
I’m glad you like it!
OK, sorry to be a bitch here but this is one of the reasons why I think you’re unintelligent.
Evolution is not a “theory.” It’s a proven scientific fact.
March 12th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
At the risk of just throwing shit against a wall, no, I think it will likely happen regardless. It seems foolish to believe that humans will be around forever. I’d imagine we’d either go extinct or the vast majority of us would die, with a small group that remains and evolves (or just dies) over time based on the changed world.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:00 AM
Also, Rick STILL has not mentioned to anyone the helicopter he saw flying over Atlanta in the pilot.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
I guess that makes sense. I didnt really get what they were going for with those cutaways right after Shane died. Were those just illustrations of the ‘monsters’ that were taking over his brain?
March 12th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Not at all. But from the looks of it, I understand more than you. Also, I’m not exactly qualified to sit around spewing ideas that question scientifically proven facts. My suggestion is that rather than telling others to do more research, you take your own advice.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:02 AM
no, but you need to make a few concessions especially about the way nature balances itself. why aren’t there megalodons anymore? probably because they ran out of shit to eat in order to fuel a gigantic great white shark.
human intelligence was not necessary for survival…it just made survival a shitton easier.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:03 AM
No, it’s a theory but like Mole said scientific theory is pretty well accepted, problem is when people confuse that term with hypothesis for the purpose of arguing against stuff like evolution
March 12th, 2012 at 11:03 AM
You make an excellent point. If you recall we all bitched about why there were dead people just sitting in their cars. It shouldn’t negate the point that dead people become zombified, but it was a horrible decision to put that in.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Good point. Maybe the virus evolved?
This, plus the fact that we don’t know what Jenner said to him in the CDC, is admittedly really stupid. It better be a bombshell that he’s just afraid to tell everyone else.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:06 AM
A good monday and we’re arguing evolution? Pass the liquor
March 12th, 2012 at 11:06 AM
You’re right I can’t type. I meant to say “I didn’t say fossils weren’t a fact” I can see the same physical evidence you can see. However I know we have unanswered questions about the progression of events and why.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:06 AM
This, plus the fact that we don’t know what Jenner said to him in the CDC, is admittedly really stupid. It better be a bombshell that he’s just afraid to tell everyone else.
Oh, I think it’s almost a guarantee that Jenner told rick that you don’t have to be bitten to be zombiefied, right? That even the dead who aren’t bitten rise as zombies? It would make their world even more bleak than it already is, and would give Jenner a reason to quit looking for a cure and kill himself.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:07 AM
I ask this anytime I watch a TV series or Hollywood movie that’s set in the South. A Southerner can pick up that fake shit the first time someone opens his or her mouth. It’s ten times worse when they try to do a region-specific accent. Every character who’s from New Orleans sounds like some generic Georgia sharecropper, for example.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:08 AM
maybe it’s a revelation the zombie plague was a virus that was engineered at the army base they are going to.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:09 AM
tough shit…win the civil war the next time and yall can call the shots.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Actually it’s both, if we’re going to quibble. The changes in a gene pool of a specific population over time is fact. Evolution as a reason for why we are the way we are now is a theory.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:11 AM
And both Zombieland and Otis in Walking Dead have taught us that cardio is also very, very important.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:12 AM
I never made it past the first 6 episodes of The Wire but I could not stand it when McNulty tried to talk like he was anything except British.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Yup we agree there. I’ve said more than once here that more research is necessary. I don’t think I have questioned any established facts. Moreover its really difficult to have established facts about events that occurred millions of years ago at an absurdly slow pace which we are unable to observe today.
Again all we have is still pictures from a football game and we’re trying to guess how the game was won. May be future advances in technology will tell us more.
Its a known fact that every generation has believed their generation knew all there was to know so far they all have been kind of wrong.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Sounds like how I feel watching Stephen King movies
March 12th, 2012 at 11:12 AM
The southern accents on TWD are pretty terrible. Especially Shane and Rick’s. Almost laughable.
They should have just done without giving them accents, there are lots of people down here that don’t have a southern accent, or only a small hint of a twang on certain words. No need to make every southerner Forrest gump.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:14 AM
I don’t think this has ever been true, and it’s certainly not what I think. Why do we always continue to try to learn more?
March 12th, 2012 at 11:14 AM
This is awful, if it were true then there wouldn’t be continued scientific research of just about everything
March 12th, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Every character who’s from New Orleans sounds like some generic Georgia sharecropper, for example.
That’s out of necessity though. I don’t think New Orleans native speak English. I can barely understand their cajun.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:15 AM
i think the only known fact about the previous generation is that they sucked and did shit all wrong and now the current generation has to fix it.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:16 AM
You are aware of carbon dating, are you not? This isn’t a bunch of people jumping to conclusions based on some pictures they saw.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:16 AM
If creationism overtakes evolution in our schools, I guess you could say we did win.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
Isn’t Rick from England in real life? And I saw Maggie was something like born in Pennsylvania/raised in London. Sometimes they should just go with no accents, IMO. There’s plenty of people that live in GA, yes even rural GA, that don’t have ridiculous southern accents.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
My favorite part about the bible is that they made Jesus light haired and blue eyed. Dude must have stuck out like a sore thumb.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Exactly. I would still have to wear a belted quilt full of cotton to absorb my period instead of these things called tampons we have now.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
DAMNIT.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
There’s plenty of people that live in GA, yes even rural GA, that don’t have ridiculous southern accents.
ha, looks like someone didn’t read my entire comment.
/great minds think alike though
March 12th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Yup changes in the gene pool is a fact since we can compare the DNAs of fossils from different slices in time. Why the DNA changed is possibly due to natural selection but why did giraffes select long necks and other similar grazers didn’t?… we still don’t really know the answer to that. Do we need to understand that and more of the “why’s” to make evolution a complete fact based theory? May be
March 12th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
There’s a mat for that, you know.
/
March 12th, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Fixed for sad accuracy
March 12th, 2012 at 11:20 AM
What’s all this science bullshit talk? Where’s the CW channel talk?
/JMac’d
March 12th, 2012 at 11:20 AM
My favorite part about the american christian is that they made Jesus light haired and blue eyed. Dude must have stuck out like a sore thumb.
Fixed for sad accuracy
I think European Christians have the same interpretation of his looks too, don’t they?
March 12th, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Dat’s cause dey tawk Yat. Dey don’t talk coonass, dem.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:20 AM
No it didn’t
March 12th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
my favorite part is that god decided to send his son to a disgusting roman outpost in the middle of the desert where almost everyone was illiterate instead of to greece, rome, china, etc, where they had developed cultures.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
I don’t understand.. carbon dating is like telling me you know when photos were taken. still doesn’t tell you how the game was won.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Shane’s is bad, but not the worst of them. Rick sounds like a Christian Bale batman with a bad southern twang.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
But Jim Caviezel had dark hair! /brainsplosion
March 12th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
Ha wow, fail on my part. But yes, we agree. Hollywood tries too damn hard with the southern accents.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
The day anyone uncovers archeological proof that Jesus was dark-skinned is the day about a billion Christians convert to Islam. Or atheism.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:23 AM
No it didn’t
“they” butters, not “it.”
March 12th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
because of where the giraffes lived, whom they mated with and how many of the ones without long necks were killed off.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
But Jim Caviezel had dark hair! /brainsplosion
Jesus had quite the body too. You see his 6-pack? And those calves!!
/faints
//coop’d
March 12th, 2012 at 11:27 AM
No it’s really not but since I’m at work and don’t have the time to pull up all the scientific papers out there about carbon dating and it’s relation to evolution, I’m just going to move on. Have a great day.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
prove it
March 12th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
It helped him save Santa from the Iraqis.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
In my grandma’s house Jesus is Black. I always found that funny but really it wouldn’t make it better even if they made him look Middle Eastern or whatever, because A) No one knows exactly what he looked like and B) People quibling about Jesus’ amount of melanin seems to defeat the point.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
This is kind of what I was talking about when I mentioned your need for research, got_em. You don’t seem to know much at all about anything that goes into the theory of evolution, just based on the recent responses from SG and Spencer, and that fact that those responses were actually necessary.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
“Every generation” doesn’t mean 100% of the people… people for a long time believed the earth was flat and revolved around the sun or something and couldn’t wrap their mind around anything else. It took visionaries to see beyond that.
The point here is that it is very difficult for most people to imagine what we don’t know so we tend to believe what we know is all there is. The key is having an open mind to discovery and continuing to pursue inconsistencies and gaps in the known which by the way is different from grabbing a bible and burying your head in it.
Most of the crucial developments in science were accidents of genuine curiosity
March 12th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Pretty much.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
I love it when devout Christians get all anti-semitic. Really I love it when all people are blatantly hypocritical and they don’t realize it.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
People quibling about Jesus’ amount of melanin seems to defeat the point.
Pretty much.
people quibbling over whose god is the real god and killing each other over it seems to defeat the point as well. But whatever, I come here for the Upton GIF’s.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
Umm… okay… so carbon dating doesn’t just date a specimen? I think thats all I said. lemme know if it does more.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
The day anyone uncovers archeological proof that Jesus was dark-skinned is the day about a billion Christians convert to Islam. Or atheism.
Archaeological proof hasn’t convinced the same people that there wasn’t a giant flood that killed off every living being except for the the lucky few on a giant boat. I have my doubts.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
True.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
If anything should prove the existence of God, that is it.
But then it raises the question: why didn’t God give Kate a woman’s hips? Like the ones he gave Shakira?
March 12th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Link?
March 12th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
My point was for example why doesn’t deer with a similar nutritional profile develop long necks?
March 12th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
kinda related lol.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
And yet The Walking Dead expects us to believe that a lucky few in a tiny RV survived a flood of zombies that covered the Earth.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
A good starting place might be to compare their habitats now and historically. I’m guessing they differ in some way, but that might make too much sense.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Not much fight in you.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
probably because a) they were fast enough to get away from predators b) were able to graze closer to the ground c) moved to a different environment…there are a TON of different reasons. why don’t giraffes have antlers like a moose? why don’t giraffes run like gazelles?
March 12th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
The main point was its relation to evolution, which you are basically dismissing in some nonsensical manner. I have to go to a meeting unfortunately, but you should seriously research with more reputable sources. Don’t just resort to asking questions of TBL commenters.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
using your picture analogy…you can’t tell the story based off a bunch of pictures with no sequence, but carbon dating helps put that series of pictures into a chronological order.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
Archaeological proof hasn’t convinced the same people that there wasn’t a giant flood
Link?
OH COME ON!
March 12th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
This would be correct if giraffe was the only species on the african plains during the relevant time period of the long neck evolution that had the idea that feeding on tree leaves was a good idea. I don’t believe thats the case but clearly i haven’t done any scientific research on the herbivores of Africa millions of years ago.
If someone has i’d be more than happy to read their work to get educated
March 12th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Yup, thats why it has value… the task of understanding why’s of transition after chronology is settled remains daunting… I believe some people here are underestimating the complexity and difficulty of this task.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Mostly joking, ATL-Engager, but..
Yeah the flood was probably a myth that was passed down through generations. That doesnt mean there is archaelogical proof that it didnt happen. In fact, Ive seen numerous shows on History and Discovery that detail some archaelogical findings that could be remnants of the ark & also theories of what bodies of water could have been involved.
I think the point is that most people would be better off admitting that they really dont know much in this world for certain. And you just look like jackasses saying as much(no matter which side you’re on).
March 12th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
It’s pointless for me to fight with this guy. Obviously nothing I say is going to get through. I’d rather use up my quotient of frustration on someone who thinks the Walking Dead is a cool show than on this guy.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
ok…so then why didn’t all wildebeast develop a gazelle’s agility? why didn’t acacia develop long necks?
it all boils down to food and defense. giraffe’s probably were all big herbivores that struggled to eat grass, so instead they picked bushes and leaves. when that food became harder to get…either from overpopulating or not enough resources…they evolved through generations until the species was defined as we see them today.
March 12th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
Yup those are all possible yes… so i don’t necessary agree with you entirely but I like your open minded approach.
/no homo
March 12th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
/giggles
March 12th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
this is something creationists and evolution supporters can agree on.
/i keed, i keed
March 12th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
For some reason, that reminded me of this:
Homer: Are you saying you’re never going to eat any animal again? What about bacon?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Ham?
Lisa: No!
Homer: Pork chops?
Lisa: Dad, those all come from the same animal!
Homer: Heh heh heh… ooh… yeah… right, Lisa. A wonderful… magical animal.
March 12th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
This would be correct if giraffe was the only species on the african plains during the relevant time period of the long neck evolution that had the idea that feeding on tree leaves was a good idea.
more probably it’s the only one that didn’t go extinct because of some ability it had that others didn’t.
March 12th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
/ Waves hand in the air
March 12th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
The other day, my dad used metrosexual in a sentence when he meant to say transgendered. Very funny.
/nods at the resident metro, jck
March 12th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
+1
March 12th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
And The Walking Dead discussion brought this to mind:
Lisa: Dad, we did something very bad!
Homer: Did you wreck the car?
Bart: No.
Homer: Did you raise the dead?
Lisa: Yes.
Homer: But the car’s okay?
Bart & Lisa: Uh-huh.
Homer: All right then.
Why is it everything reminds me of a Homer SImpson quote?
March 12th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Ok, that made me laugh.
March 12th, 2012 at 12:07 PM
You know that the giraffes didn’t actually SELECT anything, right?
March 12th, 2012 at 12:12 PM
OK, I’m gonna close with this and then cut myself off:
“Son, when you participate in sporting events, it’s not whether you win or lose… it’s how drunk you get.”
March 12th, 2012 at 12:13 PM
“select” as in natural selection. i don’t suppose there was a town meeting followed by a vote.
March 12th, 2012 at 12:14 PM
You know that the giraffes didn’t actually SELECT anything, right?
that’s not true at all. Members of the species selected mates, or won females by fighting. And the longer, stronger necks are what won out. Their dominance battles and mating fights are all based around bashing each other with their necks.
March 12th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
If only Peyton Manning would have been born a giraffe, he’d have had some game with the ladies.
March 12th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
Right, but the original giraffe with the longer neck…it wasn’t perusing the menu and thought the long neck was the way to go. Natural selection is just a fancy designation for successful genetic mutation.
March 12th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
this was phenomenal.
March 12th, 2012 at 12:42 PM
I’ve seen those fighting giraffe videos…of course, they look similar to giraffe mating dance videos, so one has to be careful not to confuse the two.
March 12th, 2012 at 12:44 PM
Natural selection is yes genetic mutation with a mission. I mean its not just random luck of the draw mutations that gets to be passed according to evolution theory. I guess every rule has exceptions or at the very least non obvious cases of its application where sometimes useless mutations emerge for example our brand of intelligence which is horrible for what we believe is the core values of natural selection – making babies.
Its no secret that the more intelligent you are the fewer kids you make. There’s some negative correlation between education and # of kids. Did evolution miss something here or is there something we don’t yet understand about it? I lean towards the latter just based on the fact that I believe the nature of life is more complex than we can appreciate.
March 12th, 2012 at 1:01 PM
You’re not sure for what you are advocating, sir. The theory of evolution is the mechanism by which one explains not the explanation itself.
March 12th, 2012 at 1:02 PM
His long, slender neck could never have supported the weight of that gigantic head, so he likely would have suffocated or been eaten by hyenas instead.
March 12th, 2012 at 1:13 PM
I wouldn’t have so many questions if I knew what I was advocating for… all i’m saying is there’s enough complexity and apparent contradictions here to suggest in 300 years we could know substantially more than we know today. If thats true what we know today is less complete.
March 12th, 2012 at 1:47 PM
The statement above is akin to doubting the existence of the sun. You can, in fact, doubt its existence, but there is no logic inherent in that position.
Creationism is the belief construct created to explain the existence of life, the universe, everything. As it holds that “God” created everything, creationism does not allow for the logic of evolution to exist – “How can God create everything, yet allow for genetic mutations to create as well?”
As we know that evolution does, in fact, take place/exist, Creationists must evolve () or end up being dismissed as inadequate…at which point they are still dismissed as inadequate.
Your confusion stems from the questions “How did we get here?” or “Why are we here?” These questions do not seek the same answer. The first answer is evolution, baby. The second answer? Good luck with that one.
March 12th, 2012 at 1:51 PM
Link fail.
March 12th, 2012 at 4:09 PM
Correct evolution theory does pretty good with the “what” and progression of “what”s across time… however it also makes inferences on the “whys” and “hows” and thats where I believe the greatest future discoveries are going to be made.
Again when I said there are reasons a logical human being would doubt evolution i am a) not advocating creationism or b) denying the fossil evidence of a much much different past.