Bruce Weber’s Out at Illinois. Would Gregg Marshall Make More Sense Than Shaka Smart?
Bruce Weber has finally been relieved of his duties at Illinois, probably a few years too late for some Illinois alumni. Three weeks ago, after Bruce Weber’s rant after a loss to Purdue, I talked about Self’s tenure, and how it’s probably not good to be talking about not creating a winning culture in year nine. Weber had success in the first three years with Bill Self’s players, but Illinois has been nothing more than a lower seed in the NCAA at best for a while. The signs of change were already there, but after Weber’s comments, the team just continued to falter, losing 5 of 6 including a drubbing at Nebraska. Illinois closed with losing 12 of 14 games after a 15-3 start.
So now, the talk will turn to the quality of the Illinois job, and Shaka Smart. Smart has had his name attached to Illinois for a while, and he comes from Big Ten territory originally, having played high school ball in Wisconsin. The VCU Rams’ performance in returning to the tournament this year certainly does nothing to hurt his prospects, as last year he won with players from Anthony Grant, and had a large amount of turnover.
However, I wonder if Illinois would be better served going after Gregg Marshall instead. Whatever you think of the Illinois job–and I don’t think it is the elite job some will make it out to be despite being in the same state as Chicago, but is a top 15-25 job in a great conference–it does have the benefit of being the Belle of the Ball in 2012. I don’t see Ben Howland being in trouble this offseason in UCLA, and there are no other jobs opening that will be better.
So, by making the move on Weber now, which had to be done, Illinois is in a bit of a buyer’s market and will be able to assess and choose. Shaka Smart and Gregg Marshall of Wichita State will be the two hottest coaching candidates among those with head coaching experience. Both would be outstanding candidates. Marshall, in my opinion, would be the better fit for the Big Ten and Illinois.
Shaka Smart’s VCU teams play a frenetic, trapping style, up tempo, and create turnovers while generally getting outplayed on the boards. We saw them run through the tournament last year, whipping Purdue from the Big Ten and Georgetown team (albeit an injury weakened one) from the Big East who plays a more deliberate style in the process. Will that work year over year in the Big Ten, going against the likes of Michigan State, Ohio State and Wisconsin? I guess it depends on if you can get “elite” bigs to buy in and commit to your program.
Marshall, on the other hand, even though he is the hot prospect this year, has been around and built two programs at two different levels (Winthrop for five year, and now Wichita State for five years). Stylistically, the way he has built the programs fits in with the Big Ten. Marshall’s teams have been consistently good at rebounding. They play at a slower tempo (this year’s team is playing faster than most with better talent, but still not an up tempo team). For eight straight years, Gregg Marshall’s teams have been in the top 35 in defensive rebound percentage (source: kenpom.com). They generally play hard nosed defense in the paint.
If he gets Big Ten level talent, he will succeed. Gregg Marshall, it appears to me, is the safer play to be a success at Illinois. Shaka Smart may be the shock to the system for the Big Ten, like Joe Tiller introducing the spread at Purdue in football. Will Smart get his Drew Brees for a period? I’m not saying that Shaka Smart cannot do it at Illinois–I wouldn’t put anything past him–but I’m more confident Marshall can, given how he has succeeded in the past.
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March 9th, 2012 at 1:54 PM
I’ve been thinking that if Illinois doesn’t get plan A or play B (as noted above), they would be very smart to jump Ohio’s John Groce. He’s a Munie guy who was an assistant at Ohio State, so knows the region well (as well as the Big Ten). A very nice developer of individual talent plus I love his X’s and O’s.
March 9th, 2012 at 1:56 PM
Wow what an awful hire Fran McCaffery was at Iowa. Made no sense at the time, looking worse by the day now.
March 9th, 2012 at 1:56 PM
LRMC has Wichita as the fifth best team in the land. Kenpom has them eighth. Marshall would be a great hire with a staff that recruits hard.
March 9th, 2012 at 1:57 PM
Are you fucking retarded?
March 9th, 2012 at 1:58 PM
Hire a guy who knows Chicago and thinks its his final stop or hire no one at all.
March 9th, 2012 at 1:58 PM
Shaka Smart to the SEC!
/just saw a bunch of short-skirt UK girls walk on by at downtown NOLA
March 9th, 2012 at 2:03 PM
Umm…clearly you’re forgetting about the totally awesome job that will be open when Nebraska fires their abortion of a coach.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:07 PM
Bob Stoops.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:08 PM
You were happy with that hire? A career mid-major coach who had no background in the midwest whatsoever? Iowa should be looking at hot assistants, not mid-major retreads IMO.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:09 PM
reggie theus was at a chicago hs game sitting next to the parents of a big time recruit. former bull, has assisted pitino, took new mexico state to the tourney
AD hired a no-name to replace zook, so big name is not a lock
March 9th, 2012 at 2:09 PM
I’ve heard their first call will be to Robert Montgomery Knight.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:11 PM
You didn’t answer the question.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:12 PM
that would be sweet script. hey, how come we’ve never seen a biopic on the general? write it up, pitch that shit
clooney as knight
March 9th, 2012 at 2:13 PM
The more underachieving program in the history of college basketball period. Whether it be a no name or a big name they need someone who can recruit AND coach.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:13 PM
are you fucking a retard?
/better question’d
March 9th, 2012 at 2:15 PM
or the most
March 9th, 2012 at 2:16 PM
I thought the Brian Denehey “Season on the Brink” was actually as good as you ‘ll get re: Knight. It’d be awesome just to see Knight go into Assembly Hall one time as a visiting coach. I was at BG when Dan Dakich was there and heard a # of good General stories.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:17 PM
The more underachieving program in the history of college basketball period. Whether it be a no name or a big name they need someone who can recruit AND coach.
Tim Floyd?
March 9th, 2012 at 2:18 PM
I’m happy with a coach that has consistently improved the program the two years he’s been here. He didn’t submarine his recruits like Lickliter and wasn’t a scumbag like Alford (who was a good basketball coach). Iowa isn’t a basketball school. If Fran can play this up-tempo, exciting style and get us a tournament berth fairly regularly, he’ll be well received here. We don’t expect to make the Final Four. Just get us dancing. He’s well on the way to that.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:19 PM
I thought the Brian Denehey “Season on the Brink” was actually as good as you ‘ll get re: Knight. It’d be awesome just to see Knight go into Assembly Hall one time as a visiting coach. I was at BG when Dan Dakich was there and heard a # of good General stories.
oops. love denehy
March 9th, 2012 at 2:19 PM
Illinois is a midtier B1G program at this point. Decent job, but there are about 5 schools firmly ahead of the Illini in the B1G pecking order.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:19 PM
But Ray Meyer’s dead.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:22 PM
But was there any gunfire?
March 9th, 2012 at 2:23 PM
Also, I am hoping LSU will fire Trent Johnson after they get flattened by Kentucky today, and Johnny Jones will be brought in from North Texas to rescue the program.
How sad is it when you’re hoping for someone from UNT to rescue your program?
March 9th, 2012 at 2:24 PM
Shaka Smart to SMU after Doherty is fired.
/reported by no one.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:25 PM
I don’t subscribe to the idea that up-tempo basketball is a non-starter in the Big 10. It’s more a product of the talent available to them. Yeah there are a few teams like WISC that are committed to a slower pace but overall I think if coaches could get the athletes/players like the ACC you’d have more of that. An inverse example would be Knight’s IU teams – they became more deliberate as his talent levels dipped. I think regardless of your offensive scheme, a Big 10 coaching hire better be ready to get physical on the defensive side.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:26 PM
LSU is up 5 with less than 16 min to go.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:28 PM
Well the conference is cut in half really when it comes to that. I mean, the bad teams all look and play like mid-majors, while OSU/MSU/Indiana/Illinois have plenty of talent to play up-tempo. Problem is that they get sucked into the vortex of having to play these brutally physical Big Ten games with inconsistent officiating and teams that hold the ball.
I do think some of the bottom tiered ACC teams would be MUCH better serves to slow things down. Some horrible coaching inthat conference at the bottom, and I can’t stress hat enough.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:28 PM
This post proves that the Duffman is raycess.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:29 PM
Care to explain?
March 9th, 2012 at 2:30 PM
I do think some of the bottom tiered ACC teams would be MUCH better serves to slow things down.
Herb Sendek survived a few years on this at NC State. But the best players want to get it up and down. A lot of coaches hate to give players this much freedom on the court.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:33 PM
It was when I was growing up. Olson/Davis Hawkeye basketball was fun.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:34 PM
is this a shot at Bromes? if so, +1
March 9th, 2012 at 2:40 PM
Which means they will lose by 25.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:43 PM
Although it’s more likely LSU will hold on, upset Kentucky, then get flattened in their next game, but beating #1 will lead to the NIT, another quick flameout and another excrutiating season of clueless play under Johnson.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:44 PM
Yep. LSU was up by 5 with 16 minutes left. Now they’re down by 8 with 8 minutes left.
March 9th, 2012 at 2:56 PM
There’s only one BCS job he might leave for this year…and it ain’t Illinois.
March 9th, 2012 at 3:09 PM
Exactly, but the fans think otherwise, hence the quagmire and why I wouldn’t touch this job if I were an up-and-coming coach.
March 10th, 2012 at 12:06 AM
Hire a guy who knows Chicago and thinks its his final stop
But Ray Meyer’s dead.
Ray Meyer is dead? Hence his final stop.