Mike Wallace Sweepstakes: New England and Cleveland Should Be First In Line
Mike Wallace could leave Pittsburgh as an restricted free agent this offseason, if the Steelers do not place the franchise tag on him, or sign him to a new deal. That, of course, also depends on another team being willing to pay the compensation of a first round pick, as well as his asking price on a contract.
It presents an interesting scenario of the interplay between the new rookie wage scale, and new rules limiting compensation for players receiving the highest tender offer to a first round pick, when formerly teams could get a first and a third round pick if another team signed the player away.
Ed Bouchette talks about how the Steelers are not likely to franchise Wallace at the price of more than 9 million, and will likely see if he gets any offers from other teams, that they could then choose to match or take the draft pick. However, given that Pittsburgh is about 10 million over the cap entering the offseason, any offering team could certainly make it unlikely Pittsburgh has the capability to match.
Bouchette’s post is titled “what is Mike Wallace worth?” and he states, “Wallace is good, but not $10 million annually good.” I agree, but thought I would go a little further to estimate it, looking at Wallace as well as what a first round pick used on a receiver would be worth. Along the way, we can talk about surplus value, as well as the cost of getting more predictable performance.
Mike Wallace is one of 19 receivers to have at least 2,200 yards at ages 24 & 25 since the league went to 16 games, sitting right in the middle at #9. He’s a speedster with a high yards per catch at a young age, so he falls more toward the Flipper Anderson/Torry Holt/Mike Quick/James Lofton end of the spectrum than the Plaxico Burress/Brandon Marshall/Larry Fitzgerald/Carl Pickens end. I looked at what those receivers did over the next five years, dividing seasons into those with less than 500 yards, 500-749 yards, 750-999 yards, 1000-1249 yards, and greater than 1250 yards in a season.
I then did the same for every first round pick at wide receiver drafted between 1978 and 2007, looking at the first five years of their careers. I divided those into early first (picks 1-10), mid first (picks 11-20) and late first (picks 21-32). Here is the summary of how frequently each type of player reached the milestone over the next five years.
Yeah, the Wallace comps stretch the gambit from Flipper Anderson to Jerry Rice, but very few of them had a season will less than 500 yards, so you are highly likely to get a starter for five years if you sign Wallace. If I gave you an over/under on Wallace seasons with 1,000 or more receiving yards over the next five [ed. at 2.5 seasons with 1,000 or more], which way would you go? I’d lean slight under, but it would be close.
Meanwhile, those late first round receivers produce less than 500 yards in half their seasons. Those would be the picks that someone who is willing to sign Wallace needing a speed receiver might be willing to give up, rather than use it on a receiver.
Now, let’s try to put a figure on those performance numbers. Using the most recent wide receiver cap hit numbers on Spotrac, I found the rank of the median performance in each of those ranges, and matched it to the corresponding salary figure with the same rank.
For example, the third best performance would be an all-pro type season, greater than 1,350 yards. That would match up with the third highest cap value, 10.4 million. That number passes the sniff test, since it slightly exceeds the franchise number. The remaining figures were 6.3 million, 3.7 million, 1.1 million, and $500,000 for those seasons under 500 yards.
Here’s the average salary production over a five year period, using those figures:
A couple of things on those numbers, since they are based on last year. We saw with the new deal and with the rookie wage scale that veterans got even more money, so expect those numbers to shoot up. I’m not sure what the expected inflation rate, but it will be real as more of the veteran cap numbers are deals done since 2011.
The other thing is surplus value versus paying for performance. The late firsts will cost a team about 1.5 million per year, so they are getting good surplus value. However, at some point, if you have a bunch of $1 million dollar players for $500,000, you have great value but a losing team. Further, while the average late first provides surplus value, most provide slight negative value. It’s just that those that hit provide tremendous value.
On the other hand, the veteran Wallace comps getting paid 6 million would mostly provide a slight positive return, but the upside is less. With inflation, I think a reasonable price if you are going to give up a draft pick is about 6.5 to 7 million per year over the next 4 to 5 seasons. The deal could be structured with a slight front load, and Pittsburgh likely cannot match with their cap problems. That buys you the additional upgrade in performance and far less likelihood of an outright bust.
Who should be interested? Among teams with a draft pick at the end of the first, New England has two, and could use an outside receiver. They’ve been trading down for years but could cash in for an established receiver. Cleveland got Atlanta’s pick. If they could surrender that one as part of a deal, they are a division rival who desperately needs a talent upgrade at receiver, and already has used plenty of recent draft picks.
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February 23rd, 2012 at 2:13 PM
Steelers are gonna suck.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:16 PM
This will never be true as long as Cleveland and Cincy are in the division. The Steelers will be fine, and I believe Wallace will be on the team when the season starts.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:17 PM
Can the Pats sign Wallace and pay Welker?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:18 PM
I’m pretty torn on Wallace. He’s at times great but often very frustrating and completely disappears, he’s sort of an all or nothing kind of receiver. His overall numbers look good, but look closer and there’s a lot of games with just 2 or 3 catches.
He’s lightning fast, but isn’t a great route runner, his hands are ok, and he isn’t all that fluid with the ball in his hands. How much is a pure deep ball guy worth?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Cincy… in the division.
CINCY HAS THE RED RIFLE AND AJ GREEN THOUGH!
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Think the Niners might also be in the mix here as vertical edge threat would pair well with Vernon down the seam, and open up Crabtree to work underneath, which I think is where he’s best suited.
Wallace is definitely worth the 30th pick.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:21 PM
I really enjoy the yearly “The Steelers are doomed” theories every February in the local area. Their best shot is to give him a long term deal where most of the money he makes is through guarantee and bonuses. Franchising him is impossible.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:22 PM
Lisk: One of the best pieces you’ve written. No one in the mainstream understands surplus value.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:23 PM
his career will immediately go to shite upon signing with the browns.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:24 PM
I really want this to be your avatar.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:25 PM
My opinion on Mike Wallace is this: he basically has the skill set of the Skins’ Anthony Armstrong, but with a much better QB. I’m not sure he’s going to help a team that is lacking at QB. In New England, though, I think he’d be a stud.
And, yes, I think Armstrong would be a stud on a team like the Packers.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:28 PM
Seems like the knock on Wallace is his route running. Doesn’t that not fit in the Patriots style of play? I know they had Moss and he was a freestyler but Mike Wallace ain’t Randy Moss.
What, no post on Russilo being back with SVP today?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:29 PM
I dont want to get my hopes up, but yeah. He is just what NE’s offense needs. I’m sure they’d be able to find a way to structure his and Welker’s deal so that it works. They do have cap space.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:30 PM
Saw the other day that the Pats had $26 mil in cap room. I would love for Wallace to be on the Pats next year but I doubt it happens.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:31 PM
Thought I saw on Twitter he was back yesterday too. So we are to believe he was suspended for 2 days?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:31 PM
Is this more to do with who the QB is or Wallace himself?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:32 PM
G.M says Pitt wants him to stay Almost as bad as an owner giving his coach the dreaded vote of confidence
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:33 PM
If Wallace goes to the Pats, I’m dipping my balls into a pot of boiling water.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:33 PM
He plays the brown’s twice a year and know precisely how much they suck. No way he plays for them.
I also feel that Wallace’s production can’t really be judged in stats alone. Primarily b/c wherever he lines up dictates coverages given his speed. It’s also worth noting the steeler’s dont use him solely as an outside receiver. They use motion or just line him up in the slot to attack the seams.
Also, doesn’t the cap increase when the new TV deals kick in? Letting the steeler’s play reckless for now, or backload a contract?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:33 PM
I’m also glad that Lisk didn’t make the argument that the Browns or Bengals can justify doing this because it would also hurt a division rival.
Where he goes matters not to the Steelers.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:34 PM
What will be interesting is to see what the Pats’ OLine looks like next year. I heard whispers Light could retire, Waters could too. And who the fuck knows what Mankins will do. The future is now for Cannon, Solder, and Vollmer.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:34 PM
Well that’s certainly a new derivative of teabagging.
/topical
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:35 PM
Yeah I can’t imagine why anyone would ever play for the Browns.
Oh wait, there’s one. The most money.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:35 PM
OT: But wherever our little pothead Browns fan is right now, it’s fucking gorgeous. His photos of this golf course are immaculate. It’s like Spencer’s personal Nirvana.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:35 PM
The Browns are giving that 2nd #1 up for RG3. Not happening.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:36 PM
I think Wallace was misused the last half of the season. I know that with the o-line they had to pick their spots on getting him one over the top, but they threw him way too many wide receiver screens that forced him to break a tackle or two. I think it wore him down, he’s kinda slight.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:36 PM
I think the Steelers should trade Mike Wallace for Colt and cut Big Ben
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:36 PM
People who knock Wallace on most his route running probably never caught onto Mike Martz’s innovation in route running for fast WRs. i.e. flat cuts vs. speed cuts:
http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2012/02/06/when-flat-is-good-route-running-and-baylor-wr-kendall-wright/
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:37 PM
Spencer’s playing Kapalua Plantation in Hawaii, I believe.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:41 PM
You also forgot to mention that Beg was crippled leading to a inability to escape defenders, poor accuracy and less arm strength.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:43 PM
You didn’t give me an O/U…it makes the game much tougher.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:43 PM
Oh if I could turn whispers into reality. Love Matt’s years of service to the Pats, but he is donzo. Will be nice to have Koppen back at C as well.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:44 PM
Maui, the Plantation course and Kapaulua. Didn’t play there, but saw some of it, it is absolutely stunning.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:45 PM
That Dieckhead better throw those up on twitter. That place is incredible.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:45 PM
Is spence tweeting pictures out?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:47 PM
You also forgot to mention that Beg was crippled leading to a inability to escape defenders, poor accuracy and less arm strength.
you’re thinking too late in the season. They started throwing Wallace a lot of screen and underneath stuff around week 6.
/the little slant route he scored on against Cincy was tits, though, he split 3 converging defenders.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:47 PM
Spencer’s a dick.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:48 PM
O/U is five seasons.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:49 PM
What?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:49 PM
He put them on Facebook. He’s there for a wedding right?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:49 PM
Brady probably thinks of having Mike Wallace on his team while boning Gisele every night.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 PM
Yeah man, Arians fell in love with those fucking screens. Thankfully he’s gone and hopefully those become rare instances. I can understand wanting to get the ball to your playmakers as much as possible, but those screens were just fucking ridiculous.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 PM
Light is signed through next year, would be nice if he stayed, just because at this point it’s hard to count on Vollmer for a full season. I like the idea of Solder as a backup tackle/3rd te for anonther year. I think at this point the consensus is that Koppen is gone and Connoly will be the starting center/kickreturner.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 PM
I … I don’t think you know how this works?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:51 PM
Yeah definitely. They were saying that he would have played in the Superbowl if he hadnt been on IR. Will be nice to have him back.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:52 PM
How many 1000 yard seasons will Mike Wallace have?
5 is the O/U.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:52 PM
You said over the next five years.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:52 PM
Hey mantis, did you check Victorino on Hawaii Five-O the other night? He only had a couple of lines but was pretty awful.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:52 PM
Wasn’t he was back yesterday?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:53 PM
Seriously? I thought it was pretty clear that the Patriots would rather pay the cheaper younger guy than the old injured guy looking for a big contract. I haven’t paid a ton of attention, so you may have heard something I havent…
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:53 PM
Spencer’s playing Kapalua Plantation in Hawaii, I believe
Shit, I was just in Kapalua last week. Ill snorkeling too.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:54 PM
No, it’s not — five seasons is the term of the bet. An O/U was never set.
Three seasons of 1,000+ yards over the next five seasons — that would be an O/U bet.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:55 PM
Did not check it out, but will have to see how awful it was. He had been talking it up a lot on twitter, but he’s no Mike Piazza or Barry Bonds from Rookie of the Year.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:55 PM
3.5 should be the O/U. At least that’s the point at which I’m not sure which way I’d go (probably under)
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:55 PM
No, no it’s not. Five is the total number of seasons, the O/U relates to how many out of those 5 he will go for 1,000+
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:55 PM
I love how that fat fuck Mark Madden keeps crying that they got rid of Arians because Ben threw for 4,000 and we had 2 1,000 WR. Too bad the Steelers offense was 21st in scoring. Yardage means dick. Ask the Chargers 2 years ago.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:55 PM
Piazza was great in Fisting Firemen 9.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:55 PM
Yup, I’m a moron. I thought Lisk meant what I wrote in 46.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:56 PM
Don’t worry, it’ll be fixed and covered up in a minute.
/TBL
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:57 PM
I was expecting so much more from the talk. He was in the opening scene, with a group of people doing trust falls. Had nothing to do with the main plot. It was cool though, that show has some great scenery. And I’m not just talking Alex O’Loughlin.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:59 PM
http://www.kapalua.com/index.php/kapaluagolf/golfrates
Expensive… but if you can sneak on for the twilight for only $168 and finish really quickly before dark, it’s a steal!
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:01 PM
I dropped $160 at Kannapali North for nine holes, cart, balls, my wife to ride along and for club rental. But it was absolutely worth every dollar.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:01 PM
Jesus. I now feel even worse about how much money I make.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:02 PM
Not sure my wife loves me that much. Most times I consider playing golf on vacation it’s her finding a place to get a pedicure or massage while I go.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:03 PM
It would be a shame if Wallace got away from the Steelers. My feelings about the Steelers are well known, but their receiving core is damn fun to watch. Especially since Hines Ward was benched.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:06 PM
Cutest. Puppy. Ever?
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:09 PM
We went parasailing and got massages the next day, and she knew I really wanted to golf, so we worked out an agreement. Plus she just took pictures of the course and the views.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:11 PM
you get the news on jon toews hurt in car crash?
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:12 PM
fuck it’s only nine holes. you can;t spend that much time with someone you marry, why get married?
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:12 PM
I thought they wanted to keep both Connolly and Koppen to bolster the line. I haven’t heard anything about Koppen being shown the door, I hope that isnt the case.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:21 PM
Ostensibly those are a constraint play to make teams think twice about playing 7+ yards off coverage with a safety rolled over the top. It was a base check in Arian’s offense. Count numbers on each side of tackle, if you got numbers then WR screen. As much as those screens suck, it’s more frustrating to watch WRs try to get open against coverages with enough buffer to account for Wallace’s speed.
I really liked that offense although it’s too bad Arian’s acumen and coaching skill never really translated to red zone play design or calling. I certainly ain’t holding my breath on todd haley.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:43 PM
No, it’s not — five seasons is the term of the bet. An O/U was never set.
Three seasons of 1,000+ yards over the next five seasons — that would be an O/U bet.
sorry guys, I omitted the 2.5 there. Just over half of all seasons by the comps in the next five years were 1,000 or more.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:47 PM
Mike Wallace is much better than Anthony Armstrong.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:50 PM
First time I was out in Maui my uncle treated me to six straight days of golf, two rounds each at the Plantation, Bay and Village courses. Was still in high school and did not appreciate how awesome this was.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:03 PM
I think a team will be hesitant to overpay in a contract to get Wallace (to avoid the Steelers matching) AND give up a 1st round pick when there is a bunch of UFA WR. For example,I think the cost of VJax would be less than Wallace and a 1st.
That is just silly, unless you are confusing Wallace for Nate Washington.
Wallace got a bad wrap because he was only utilized as a deep treat or on smoke screens by Arians. Teams started bracketing him which opened up the field for Antonio Brown. If you check out their 1st half/ 2nd half eason splits, its astounding the difference.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:04 PM
Also, boo on you Lisk for posting this 5 minutes after go out to a long lunch.
/Great post
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:06 PM
Lisk, is there anything that exists (like ANYA) to normalize WR comps across generations?
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:08 PM
Lisk, is there anything that exists (like ANYA) to normalize WR comps across generations?
I need to come up with that, like a z-score for yards and touchdowns based on that season.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:20 PM
Better? Yea. Much better? I don’t think so. I maintain Armstrong would tear it up on a good team just going deep. He’s a lot better than people realize.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:24 PM
Mike Wallace is significantly much better than Anthony Armstrong.
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:08 PM
+1,000