The Chiefs Overpaid for Stanford Routt to Avoid Paying for Brandon Carr
The Kansas City Chiefs signed recently-released Stanford Routt, who had signed a big deal in Oakland in 2011, but didn’t live up to it. When Reggie McKenzie came in as GM, his first personnel move after letting Hue Jackson go was jettisoning the Routt contract. The Chiefs have now swooped in and paid Routt.
The move to sign Routt is seen as a way to now franchise Dwayne Bowe rather than CB Brandon Carr, and let Carr go in free agency. Scott Pioli has denied that the Routt signing will impact Brandon Carr, though that is impossible to believe. The financial details are inconsistent – John Clayton says here that it is a 3 year deal with $6.5 guaranteed and $11 million this year, while the KC Star calls it a $20 million deal for 3 years with $6 million guaranteed in 2012. Whatever the specific numbers, that is starter money, above average #2 CB or borderline #1 starter money. The Chiefs also have Brandon Flowers. Kansas City has cap room, but I don’t see how Carr signs for less than Routt, or they choose to pay Routt that much to be a nickel corner.
Opinion, of course, is mixed, with some calling Routt a “cover corner” who can pair with Brandon Flowers. The data would suggest that he’s probably going to give Brandon Flowers plenty of days off, because teams will opt to pick on Routt continuously. He’s fast and may look the part, but has never fared well in any advanced numbers or in his performance. Among cornerbacks, Advanced NFL Stats had him at #71 in 2007, #88 in 2009, #85 in 2010, and #51 in 2011 in WPA (Win Probability Added). Pro Football Focus rated him as the 19th best cornerback for coverage, but his overall grade dropped to #89 in 2011 because of things like penalties, run support and tackling. In fact, Routt led the league with 17 penalties last year, and was tied for 2nd worst in touchdown passes allowed.
I don’t take any of those numbers as gospel for cornerbacks, scheme plays a role, and also for something like relying on play by play results, it will not assess how a player causes the quarterback to throw elsewhere by having good coverage. From year to year, there can be fluctuation because of things like that. That said, the fact that Routt has served in both the #2 role opposite Asomugha, and as the #1 corner without Asomugha, and has consistently rated as at best mediocre is a concern.
More concerning, though, is the age. Routt is 29 this year, while Carr will turn 26. Most people think Carr is the better overall corner, though there is some disagreement on that. That 3 year difference may not seem like much, but it basically puts Brandon Carr at the front of the peak age for cornerbacks, and Routt at the back. I looked through every cornerback to be selected as a first team all-pro since the merger, and who had already turned 30 by the 2011 season. Then, I found the highest rated season by approximate value (assigning divided credit if there were multiple seasons with the same rating).
Only 24% of corners had peaked before age 26, the age Carr will be in 2012. 58% of them peaked between ages 26 to 29, meaning 82% had peaked before age 30. Those three years make a big difference. Routt hasn’t been an all-pro (and Carr hasn’t either), but the likelihood that Routt actually gets better starting at age 29 and over the next three years is not great. Carr, on the other hand, likely still has his best year ahead of him.
The Routt contract is probably overpaying anyway, based on performance. It will look worse if Carr’s deal isn’t significantly higher.
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February 21st, 2012 at 2:19 PM
What’s Routt’s W-L record as a starter?
February 21st, 2012 at 2:20 PM
The Lions better not overpay Cliff Avril. Would rather just let him go.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:24 PM
What’s Routt’s W-L record as a starter?.
according to pro football reference, 0-0.
Anything that puts more free agent corners out there, I’m for. Lotsa talk that he was going to Dallas, but he didn’t even visit. Hopefully they didn’t offer him a bunch of money sight unseen.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:24 PM
but his overall grade dropped to #89 in 2011 because of things like penalties, run support and tackling.
How many CBs are even in the league?
February 21st, 2012 at 2:26 PM
I’m not bitching about an advanced stat but can you please explain what comprises this? Also, what positions does it apply to?
February 21st, 2012 at 2:30 PM
Agree completely.
/TBL
February 21st, 2012 at 2:31 PM
Nice post again Lisk. Bravo. Do Crennel or any of the Def staff have ties to Routt from back when?
February 21st, 2012 at 2:34 PM
Routt was drafted by the Raiders.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:35 PM
Conclusion: not unless it was in college.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:36 PM
The Pats employed about 47 during the past season.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:36 PM
the eye test.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:38 PM
Jason Lisk is an industrious Routt critic.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:42 PM
Big game tonight SC. No Datsyuk or Toews though.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:42 PM
GIGGLES.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:43 PM
kinda where I was goin, lol. Just trying to find out who liked this so much.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:44 PM
It’s a good thing Pioli is a genius, otherwise I might be concerned by this move.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:45 PM
Cleet! I just read rumors on Twitter of Mike Wallace being an RFA and the Pats as a possible team to give up a 1st rounder for him. I sprung a chick boner.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:46 PM
Jimmy’s first game in nearly a month. Still no word on Cleary, too. It’ll be a one goal game. The 3 previous have been and I don’t see much changing unless Howard has a serious clunker from being on the shelf so long. Wings have a lot of guys playing hurt, so does Chicago.
Think it’s going to be a secondary scoring win for one team. So either Bickell-Bolland-Stalberg pot one or Abdelkader-Miller-Helm do.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:47 PM
It would cost a 1st rounder and take a pretty nasty contract for the Steelers not to match. Also, you guys gotta pay Welker. Not sure if it happens.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:48 PM
They could still franchise Welker
February 21st, 2012 at 2:48 PM
Bears are rumored to be in on Mike Wallace too. They’ve got the cap space, not sure they want to forfeit the pick though.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:49 PM
I hate the Bengals with a passion, but they should drop coin on Mike Wallace for 3 reasons: 1. He’s good 2. He’d pair with AJ Green to become lethal and 3. To fuck their division foe to hell.
They should hit him with a front loaded contract that the Steelers just can’t afford to match. It would be genius. Which is why Mike Brown won’t do it.
/Laughs hysterically
//Remembers I’m a Browns fan and begins to sob uncontrollably
February 21st, 2012 at 2:49 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
February 21st, 2012 at 2:50 PM
I dont get the joke
February 21st, 2012 at 2:51 PM
Agreed the cost will be too high and Belichick will take option C and sign Hines Ward.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:52 PM
If Wallace’s cap hit is less than then the Franchise number, Steelers will match. If its higher, good luck having ~$20 million wrapped up in 2 WR.
Wally’s World: You shut your whore mouth about the Bengals. That’s the only team that really scares me in swooping in on Wallace.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:52 PM
Yucky
February 21st, 2012 at 2:52 PM
I just equate franchising someone the size of Welker with franchising a kicker. It makes me laugh. A smart football move, but he’s just a widdle tiny guy. Like a kicker.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:53 PM
Cleary’s playing.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:54 PM
Hey Boys and Girls…Its Papa Smurf!
February 21st, 2012 at 2:55 PM
They did franchise Vinatieri that one year
February 21st, 2012 at 2:55 PM
I guess Lloyd would be cheaper and more likely
February 21st, 2012 at 2:58 PM
Plus he has history with McDaniels right?
February 21st, 2012 at 3:00 PM
As long as everyone ignores Laurent Robinson being available I will be happy.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:00 PM
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
/the Bears suck
February 21st, 2012 at 3:00 PM
Yup, he’s quoted as wanting to team up with McD again
February 21st, 2012 at 3:01 PM
I’m intrigued to know what this means physiologically.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:03 PM
I think Andy Dalton is the kind of QB that could finally get Wallace to reach his potential. That’d be a great move all around.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:04 PM
Here. Let me get that for you.
/Alrighty Then’d
//vomit
February 21st, 2012 at 3:08 PM
Bears have significantly more cap space than the Greatriots. They’ll be in on Vincent Jackson and depending on the offer sheet compensation, Mike Wallace. There’s also the possible reuniting of Supreme Lord Cutler with Brandon Marshall.
They’ll get a wide receiver. Whether it’s through FA or the draft remains to be seen.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:11 PM
The what??
February 21st, 2012 at 3:11 PM
Desean Jackson seems more their style since he returns kicks and plays special Teams.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:15 PM
See here.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:15 PM
This is disgusting. I’m taking a massivetwoshits on this.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:15 PM
Eagles need to let DeSean walk and sign Vincent Jackson, stat.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:18 PM
Yep, those wideouts will be lining up out the door to get on the Bears.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:18 PM
Brandon Carr: Denver Bronco.
I like it.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:20 PM
New GM, Brawny. Jerry Angelo no longer works here.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:23 PM
I’d say don’t sleep on Eddie Royal and Cutler reuniting, but something I saw this a.m. reminded me that Tice probably wants a bunch of 6’5″ dudes who can run-block.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Damn, I forgot. What is the Bears cap situation? V-Jax seems like a great fit.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:25 PM
And once his dump is cleaned up, I’m taking a second one on it.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:27 PM
Miami cut him or are you fooling around with the trade machine?
February 21st, 2012 at 3:59 PM
The bears till suck!
February 21st, 2012 at 4:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0tssFp9CWU
February 21st, 2012 at 4:15 PM
I’m not bitching about an advanced stat but can you please explain what comprises this? Also, what positions does it apply to?
The WPA is based on play by play records. So, any play where the player is credited in the play by play (tackler, pass defensed, in coverage, interception, etc), the result of that play, positive or negative, is judged against the average change in win probability for a play of that type.
The drawbacks are there–play by play not complete, and like I said, for a corner, if they give up a few big plays but also cause the other team not to throw their way by covering well most of the time, then they would be underrated by this measure.
PFF’s ratings are based on game charting and watching the game video and trying to assign responsibility for the play.