Bruce Weber is in Trouble at Illinois
Bruce Weber has been at Illinois since 2004, but he probably will not be there much longer. Illinois was a highly ranked team when he first arrived, taking over for Bill Self. They reached the Sweet 16 in 2004 as a #5 seed, then went to the National Championship Game the next year with the team that featured Deron Williams, Dee Brown, and Luther Head. Illinois made the tournament again the following season as a #4 seed, but since 2007, the Illini have made the tournament three times, missed it two others, and have only one win, in a #8/#9 matchup last season.
Now, they are in serious risk of missing the tournament for the third time in six years. Even if they make it, they will again be a lower seed. Illinois has lost 7 of 8 games (the only win was 42-41 versus Michigan State), and after a 10-0 start, sits at 16-10.
The latest loss was last night, at home against Purdue. After the game, Bruce Weber provided some very interesting comments that seem like a man who knows he is on the way out.
He praised opposing players, and harped on his own. “Instead of creating toughness and developing a team, I coached not to lose all year. And that’s really sad.” He lamented about not sitting 7-foot center Meyers Leonard or Brandon Paul, the team’s two leading scorers, earlier in the season.
He also professed his love, a day late, of Purdue’s Robbie Hummel:
“Tonight, he played unbelievable. Made the plays when it counted. And you know him, Draymond Green [of Michigan State], Craft [Aaron Craft of Ohio State], those are three guys that you wish you could coach, ’cause they really, truly care about the team and winning and that’s all, that’s the most important thing for them.”
And later:
“If you’re a player, you’re a player. Robbie Hummel’s a player, Byrd [D.J. Byrd of Purdue]‘s a player, they go make plays. Lewis Jackson makes plays. So . . . that’s my fault.”
. . .
“Not good. We don’t have great basketball savvy. Some of that comes from maturity and age. Some of that’s just natural, some kids have a good feel, others don’t.”
He also dropped a “Mollycoddling” reference, and later channeled his inner Ricky Nelson. ”You’re trying to please everyone instead of please yourself. That’s my fault. Hindsight.”
Illinois still has road games at Ohio State and Wisconsin, and a home game against Michigan in their last 5 games. They are probably right on that bubble today, after looking like they would be in the tournament easily three weeks ago. At 5-8 in conference, they would need to get to at least 8-10 in the Big Ten to get in, and not have a bad loss in the conference tournament.
Of course, whether or not they barely get in or continue to falter, change is very possible after this run of losses and Weber’s comments. You have to wonder how tolerant Illinois will be about a coach who talks about not creating a culture of winning. This is year nine in Champaign, Illinois. You probably should have figured out how to create that culture and recruit and train those basketball players that are so praise worthy on other teams.
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February 16th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Nice suit, dick.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Good post, Lisk. I’m surprised he’s lasted this long. My brother and sister are Illini grads and they think it’s time for him to go. He’s really struggled to recruit within the state most years (last year being the exception) and Illinois is a basketball school.
Fuck Bill Self.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
3 words. Can’t. Recruit. Chicago.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Illini look like they have quit. I consider that karma for what Brandon Paul did to Ohio State. They have played like shit ever since.
Illinois SHOULD be a great place to recruit with Chicago up the road. But, if you’ve ever been to Champaign/Urbana, you’d realize why it isn’t so easy. That place is literally in the middle of nowhere. It couldn’t be further from Chicago, in terms of lifestyle.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Good riddance if he’s gone. He’s the one guy in the B1G who is nationaly despised and not just within his conference. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skqc4HGvT0o Fast-forward to about the :28 mark.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
But, if you’ve ever been to Champaign/Urbana, you’d realize why it isn’t so easy. That place is literally in the middle of nowhere. It couldn’t be further from Chicago, in terms of lifestyle.
/nods
February 16th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
i miss football so much…
February 16th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
So, Bill Self only recruited the team that went to the Finals? He never got them there?
February 16th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Chicago isn’t just a 45 minute drive up the road either… what is it, 2? 3 hours?
February 16th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Kind of difficult for me to talk shit about a program when my team scored 28 points last night against UAB….Big East here we come.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
I know. He didn’t even try to recruit Jeremy Lin. Idiot.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
i miss football so much…
This.
At least baseball is coming. Milo Hamilton is retiring as the voice of the Astros after this season though.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
i remember when i used to say things like this…my how i loathe the indians’ owners.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Pair that jacket up with Derek Dooley’s pants and you get Craig Sager.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
Hey he did a great job with Bill Self’s players.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Indians are the 2nd best team in the Central, Spence. You’re one Miggy DUI and Prince grabber away from the playoffs.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Didn’t Bill Self do a great job with Roy Williams’ players?
And didn’t Roy Williams do a great job with Matt Doherty’s players?
February 16th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
i remember when i used to say things like this…my how i loathe the indians’ owners.
You’ll still have a better season than my team will. The most we have going for us is new ownership that is promising to make us good again…in around 5 years.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
So they’re really just going to drag this Braun appeal out as long as they want, eh? Jesus titty fucking Christ, get on with it.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Harrison twins to MD!
/something i’ll be saying soon
February 16th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
get on with it.
Indeed.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/upload/2012/02/15/417385_10151301759910201_788955200_23311625_475965812_n.jpg
Winner
February 16th, 2012 at 11:51 AM
We have the draft and spring ball in the next two months. Then it’s the dead of the dead period as far as football goes. I picked a great time to knock up the wife, though. The baby will keep me super busy and help ease the pain of baseball season.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
I agree, but look at the top talent in the city the last few years. It’s not like they are going to DePaul or UIC. Shumpert – GA Tech. Rose – Memphis. Sam Thompson – Ohio St. A Davis – Kentucky. Blacksehar – Louisville. Just to name a few.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Every time there’s nothing for a couple weeks I think it’s over, and it just pops up again, like some horrible outbreak.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
It feels like Robbie Hummell has been at Purdue since 2005
February 16th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
The Indians are fucked
February 16th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
Every time there’s nothing for a couple weeks I think it’s over, and it just pops up again, like some horrible outbreak.
Have a lot of experience with those?
February 16th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
Every time there’s nothing for a couple weeks I think it’s over, and it just pops up again, like some horrible outbreak.
Gronkowski, that you?
February 16th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
2007. Not far off.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
If Bruce Weber is done…
Paul Lusk.
Yeah, I know, a reach.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
That’s probably quite accurate.
//Salivates at the thought of Detroit winning 105 games.
February 16th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
Did I not do that right? Wasn’t it reported that the test was from herpes meds?
February 16th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
then why are they going to finish fourth?
/ive seen this movie before
February 16th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
then why are they going to finish fourth?
/ive seen this movie before
Jobu
February 16th, 2012 at 11:59 AM
shaka smart or Brad Stevens
thanks for 2005 bruce..but good bye
February 16th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
illinois is not really “a basketball school” per se.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-yUrVJniqk
best speech ever
February 16th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
illinois is not really “a basketball school” per se.
the fuck it’s not. it’s certainly not a football school.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
February 16th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Uuummm… guess you haven’t been to the Midwest very often, huh?
Between the Rockies and the Appalachians, the only places remotely like Chicago are Indianapolis, Minneapolis and St. Louis. The whole Midwest is like Champaign. Hell, Champaign is a typical Midwestern town.
In many respects, Champaign is the Midwest, an oasis amid the cornfields. No different than West Lafayette, Bloomington or Iowa City.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii am just a dreamer.
And you are just a dream.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
He looks more like a Grand Ole Opry performer than a coach
February 16th, 2012 at 12:03 PM
You just made Simeon Rice very sad.
/that’s probably the only UI football player I know
February 16th, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Shut the internet down. Sickest burn ever.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:03 PM
I’d like to see the geographical proof of that.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
Quin Snyder’s available.
/basketball’s Ron Zook
February 16th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
The whole Midwest is like Champaign. Hell, Champaign is a typical Midwestern town.
Places like Madison and Columbus knock Champaign out of the park, IMO.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
So is Illinois the 4th best job in the Big 10 behind Indiana, tOSU, & Mich St?
February 16th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
Quin Snyder’s available.
/basketball’s Ron Zook
I saw him looking pretty on the Lakers bench as an assistant the other day. I doubt he goes back to college.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
JEFF GEORGE!
/Whitlock
//seriously though, you know Butkus and Grange
February 16th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
the fuck it’s not. it’s certainly not a football school.
schools dont have to be a certain sport. sometimes they arent great at anything.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
he fuck it’s not. it’s certainly not a football school.
You just made Simeon Rice very sad.
/that’s probably the only UI football player I know
I’d be remiss if I didn’t take this opportunity to thank Rashard Mendenahll for his fumble in the Super Bowl last year.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Yeah…but none of those places have a statue of the Fonz.
/fear the deer
February 16th, 2012 at 12:08 PM
So is Illinois the 4th best job in the Big 10 behind Indiana, tOSU, & Mich St?
I would put Michigan above it
February 16th, 2012 at 12:09 PM
So is Illinois the 4th best job in the Big 10 behind Indiana, tOSU, & Mich St?
I would put Michigan above it
mehh.. I’d put UW ahead of Michigan… in terms of facilities and fan support.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:09 PM
Don’t think you ever choose Illinois over Michigan.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:10 PM
I thank Pierre Thomas every night for scoring the first Super Bowl TD in Saints history.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:10 PM
Self and Roy both won titles with guys they recruited. If Self wasnt such a tournament underachiever – only 1 F4 at Kansas and tournament losses to Bucknell, Bradley, No. Iowa, and VCU – he’d probably be considered one of the top 2/3 coaches in the country right now. Guy dominates the regular season year after year.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
You’ll be happy to have Brandon Lloyd on the Pats should that signing happen
February 16th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
This is a very odd statement.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:13 PM
I wish.. Tom Condon haaaaaaaates the Pats though
February 16th, 2012 at 12:14 PM
Especially with the ongoing Crisler Center upgrades and additions. It looks much better.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:14 PM
Between the Rockies and the Appalachians, the only places remotely like Chicago are Indianapolis, Minneapolis and St. Louis. The whole Midwest is like Champaign. Hell, Champaign is a typical Midwestern town.
This is a very odd statement.
Agree that comparing St. Louis to Chicago, even remotely, is absurd.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:15 PM
How is Michigan a better job than Illinois? Outside of Fab 5, when have they gotten better players?
February 16th, 2012 at 12:16 PM
illinois is a stepping stone and they caught a good one with bill self. michigan/wisconsin = definitely better jobs.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:16 PM
And I’m not counting that fluky Bill Frieder championship.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:17 PM
Michigan would be a great job if Michigan State wasn’t there. But since that’s not changing anytime soon, you gotta go with Illinois.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
Liked the Ricky Nelson reference.
/reads the posts, usually.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
How is Michigan a better job than Illinois? Outside of Fab 5, when have they gotten better players?
agree with this… have they made a sweet 16 since steve Fisher?
February 16th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
ain’t this place a geographical oddity…2 weeks from everywhere.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Because it’s Michigan
/their answer for EVERYTHING
February 16th, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Aren’t they getting them right now? Illinois has had more recent success, but where would you rather go if both jobs were available today
February 16th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
comparing Chicago with anywhere is pretty absurd IMO.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:24 PM
Yes it is. The fallout from the near death penalty is coming to an end. There’s still a shitload of talent in the area. Beilein has his system in place. They have a monster class coming in next season, and Michigan now has an AD that actually gives a shit about basketball.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:24 PM
As a state, Illinois has more ‘elite’ basketball talent than any other state in the Big 10(12). Because of that, you would think it has the potential to be a better job than Ohio State, Michigan (because of the MSU factor) and Wisky.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:24 PM
ren’t they getting them right now? Illinois has had more recent success, but where would you rather go if both jobs were available today
Honestly… Illinois… Michigan is a football school, Illinois is a basketball school. Not to say Michigan is a bad job, but I’d take Illinois.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
That’s all fine and dandy, no doubt Michigan is experiencing an uptick, but not evidence that will be sustained (it’s still a mid-major type coach with a gimmick. We’ll see how that flies with the new recruits that want to get into the NBA. Either way, the question is which job is better and Illinois has had better recruiting classes 8 of the last 9 years.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:36 PM
Huh?
February 16th, 2012 at 12:41 PM
Considering former NBA players Tim Hardaway, Glen Robinson, and Joe Dumars all have or will have kids playing for Beilein and his system, I really don’t think it’s a “gimmick”.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:44 PM
And Tito Horford
February 16th, 2012 at 12:45 PM
C’mon, man. Hardaway and Dumars weren’t exactly blue-chippers.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Technically until OSU hired Matta, you could easily argue Illinois was a better job than Ohio State. Do we now make these judgements on what’s happening RIGHT NOW DAMN IT!?!?!?
February 16th, 2012 at 12:59 PM
As an Indiana fan I would love for Weber to stick around as long as possible, however he is definitely gone after this year. He’s right about Leonard, that kid is the definition of a pud.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:08 PM
Jeebus, I wish someone at LSU would get a clue and can Trent Johnson. Can’t recruit, can’t coach. He’s making me nostalgic for John Bray, fercrissakes.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:10 PM
I have a funny story about Tito from his very short stay at LSU that I’ll share sometime.