West Virginia Pays $20 Million to Big East to Join Big 12 in 2012
It is Valentine’s Day, but one longterm relationship has come to an end. West Virginia is officially leaving the Big East to join its natural rivals in the Big 12 conference by next football season. The Mountaineers will pay $20 million to leave early, with $10 million of that coming from a Big 12 loan. The Big 12 will forgive part of the loan.
Syracuse and Pittsburgh are expected to stay until 2013, though the Big East still must find a team to join by 2012, presumably Boise State, or force a scheduling scramble with the seven members searching for a sixth non-conference game.
It’s great for West Virginia, who receive terra firma, television riches and not having the school’s athletic future subject to bumbling commissioners and the whims of small, Catholic basketball colleges. The folks in Providence should be the jilted party, though they would have you believe the Big East has controlled events throughout the process.
In deciding to terminate West Virginia University’s membership, the Conference took into account the accusations that WVU asserted against the BIG EAST in the lawsuit that is now being dismissed. The Conference also took into account the steps that West Virginia University was willing to take to resolve the litigation, including the payment of an exit fee well in excess of that required by the Bylaws. In light of all of these factors, the BIG EAST Conference felt that it was in its best interest to terminate West Virginia University’s membership and conclude the litigation.
The Big East also “decided” to permit its girlfriend to move out. The conference closes with the hopeful assertion that “the future for the Big East has never been brighter.” Sorry, the “BIG EAST.”
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February 14th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Hope the students are ready for another “school service charge” on their tuition bills.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:47 AM
I’d pay a shit load of money to leave that dumpster fire, too.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:50 AM
Smart move. Too much defense in the Big East. Now Holgo can put up 90 a game.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:50 AM
That or they might go for the ever-popular “student activity fee”.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:51 AM
The Mountaineers will pay $20 million to leave early, with $10 million of that coming from a Big 12 loan. The Big 12 will forgive part of the loan.
When I read this part I pictured the part in Godfather where Sonny grabs the camera out of the photographer’s hands, rips out the film, throws the camera on the ground, and then with as much disgust as possible takes out a roll of cash and throws a few bills on the ground.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
I’d pay a shit load of money to leave that dumpster fire, too.
Eh, I’d rather my school be moving into that dumpster fire instead of staying in a CUSA-MWC frankenstein of a conference.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Good to see the B12 is broadening their horizons and taking on another no-defense program. I look forward to another season of 48-42 flag football games with Texas Tech, OKST, OU, Baylor and West Virginia. At least they took TCU to counter some of that nonsense. I think TCU and Texas are the only teams even remotely interested in playing defense in that league. I can’t wait fot those two to play each other, too, as you know TCU wants to beat Texas in a bad way.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Yeah that 70 bucks is enough to make you just wanna drop out.
/wanking motion
February 14th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Hope the students are ready for another “school service charge” on their tuition bills.
Friend who went to Pitt said he got an email with a link to a porn site with some WVU students having an orgy in a WVU dorm. WVU logos and posters all over the place. Perhaps the proceeds from this will help offset those costs.
/waits for the “sure, a ‘friend’” comments
//seriously, it was
February 14th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Wonder if Pitt will try to schedule WVU next year for one last backyard brawl
/doesn’t really care
February 14th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
I feel sorry for the Big 12 people who make that trip to Morgantown. Especially the Baylor people.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:55 AM
It’s easy to see why tradition is often cited when championing college athletics
February 14th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
You shouldn’t. Morgantown is a pretty damn good time if getting totally drunk is your thing.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Friend who went to Pitt said he got an email with a link to a porn site with some WVU students having an orgy in a WVU dorm. WVU logos and posters all over the place. Perhaps the proceeds from this will help offset those costs.
The only night I ever hung out in Morgantown I went to a NCAA tournament party (they were playing Texas Tech) in a yard where the game was projected onto the side of the house. There were multiple keg stations and people were passed out all over the place. Everytime they showed Bobby Knight people would throw beers at the side of the house. WVU ended up winning and there were riots — furniture on fire in the middle of the main drag, cars flipped over and on fire. It lived up to all stereotypes I had about Morgantown.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
It’s easy to see why tradition is often cited when championing college athletics
Individual school tradition isn’t important. Conference traditions started to die a slow death when the Southwest Conference imploded.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
West Virginia is by far the most scenic state I’ve driven through East of the Mississippi.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Shit, I meant IS important.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Bottom line is that they are adding two better football programs than the two that are leaving, and it ain’t even close.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Been there twice. Not the worst college town I’ve ever been to. Not by a long shot.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
All you need to know, is Kevin Pittsnogle.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Bottom line is that they are adding two better football programs than the two that are leaving, and it ain’t even close.
Yup. Got rid of two teams that haven’t ever been to a BCS game 9I’m assuming aTm hasn’t, I can’t remember) and replaced them with two teams that have won 3 (?).
February 14th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Auburn played there back in 2008. Almost went. Had a few friends that did go. These were my friends who like to have a pretty damn good time and get totally drunk at Auburn games, and they reported back that it was a nightmare. Bunch of out of control retards cussing their girlfriends is the story I heard.
February 14th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
holgorsen’s gonna run roughshod thru the big 12.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
No he isn’t. OU, Texas, OKST and TCU are all better programs.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
But they all add up. Higher ed is crazy expensive. 20 years ago, if you wree really cheap, you could get through all LSU expenses for 3000 a semester tops. Now, 3000 gets you like 4 months of student housing.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
February 14th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Yeah that 70 bucks is enough to make you just wanna drop out.
/wanking motion
Well I’m sure that such pittance of a charge is no quandary for a gentleman such as you from your fine, outstanding place of higher learning. Why, the chattel should just be content in displaying overwhelming gratitude at being allowed to sully the ivory halls of your scions with their cheap knock-off Adidas (with the fourth stripe)!
February 14th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
I think WVU is a bit skewed as they played in the Big East sans Miami and VT when they were winning the league. TCU is more of a get than WVU in my opinion.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:02 AM
pours one out.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:02 AM
But they all add up. Higher ed is crazy expensive. 20 years ago, if you wree really cheap, you could get through all LSU expenses for 3000 a semester tops. Now, 3000 gets you like 4 months of student housing.
$3,000 doesn’t even get you a semester of on campus housing at my alma mater. And it doesn’t include a meal plan either. Hell that barely covers one semester’s worth of General Student Fees.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:03 AM
so what? he’s a fucking genius…he’ll figure out how to score in buckets.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Bunch of out of control retards cussing their girlfriends is the story I heard.
So it was like an episode of Cops then?
February 14th, 2012 at 11:04 AM
I have to imagine SMU is a pretty awful bang for your buck all things considered, no?
February 14th, 2012 at 11:04 AM
A&M played in the first Sugar Bowl of the BCS era and poor Mizzou got bumped for Kansas in that one Orange Bowl because they had the misfortune of winning that division and losing to OU in the Big XII title game…I think it’s a wash with who they lost and who they’re getting
February 14th, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Everyone in that league scores in buckets. Not that hard to figure out. You can’t tell me he’s going to overtake OU and Texas on a consistent basis. No.Fucking.Way.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:05 AM
That or they might go for the ever-popular “student activity fee”.
General Fund – FTW.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:06 AM
Thank you very much Federal Student loans!
February 14th, 2012 at 11:07 AM
I have to imagine SMU is a pretty awful bang for your buck all things considered, no?
It depends on what you want to study. SMU is one of the best Business Schools in the southwest and is top 20 in the country. It also has, unbeknownst to many, one of the better Arts schools in the country, especially for voice, theatre and dance. But if I was a high school senior right now and was thinking of majoring it what I majored in there 2001-2005 (Political Science), I don’t think it would be worth the price. The inflation of private school tuition has gotten out of control and its surpassing the ability of the federal and state government to provide aid to cover or pay down the costs. And that is killing the value of the education you get.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:07 AM
Everyone in that league scores in buckets.
Not everyone.
/look at my gravatar.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:07 AM
and then with as much disgust as possible takes out a roll of cash and throws a few bills on the ground.
/spits on camera, wipes mouth with back of hand.
epic disgust
February 14th, 2012 at 11:08 AM
maybe not oklahoma, but he’s got a similar offense in terms of attack style and pace as OU, oklahoma state and baylor and all those teams shredded texas’ defense.
id put em right with oklahoma state right now. they def have the offense to compete and succeed.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:08 AM
Of course you do as you’re a rational fan who doesn’t have any skin in the game. The B12′ers have to say they got some great deal as they are so hurt (why I don’t know) that teams wanted to leave them. Mizzou and WVU are the same damn team. They win 8+ games a year with the occasional 11 win season. TCU is an upgrade over Texas A&M when considering the past 7 years or so, though.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:08 AM
Mizzou absolutely skull-fucked Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl that year.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Thank you very much Federal Student loans!
That bubble will burst soon enough. Combination of tons of underemployment with lower salaries and exorbitant cost of education the last 10 or so years. If I recall correctly, Bankruptcy doesn’t wipe out student loans either.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Sounds about right.
I was at the game when WVU came to Auburn. Odd fanbase. I gave them the usual hospitality, mixed drink from my mobile tailgate, and most of them couldn’t believe we didn’t talk shit nonstop. Had a few of the jersey wearing variety try to make tiger/eagle jokes, fail, and then resort to “fuck you.” Probably in second place as far as disappointing fan bases go. Right behind Oregon fans.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Touche’
I agree that Texas sucks ass and should be erased from society.
/that’s what I got out of your comment
February 14th, 2012 at 11:09 AM
In 19070, 85% of funding for state colleges in Ohio were from the state.
In 2015, it will be 13%.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Okie St. and W. Virginia together on the short bus? sounds about right.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:10 AM
That first Sugar Bowl was 14 years ago, and A/M hasn’t been relevant since then. Mizzou never got as close as West Virginia did to a national title game (remember the loss to Pitt a few years back that cost them the title game).
It’s really not even close. The Big 12 gets better with these two programs. Better recent results (last decade), better coaches. A/m will always have a shot at being a good program because they are the no. 2 school in arguably the most talent rich state, but they’ve underachieved pretty much forever. Even when they were on top of the SWC (when they were cheating, btw), they couldn’t win a big game.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Those things suck. I paid for mine but I’m still paying for my wife. Sallie Mae blows. When we got married 6 years ago, she owed like 28,000. 6 years later we owe like 24,000. We’re going to pay our house off faster than her student loans.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Yeah, I agree with all of that.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:11 AM
Good MBA program down there.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:11 AM
They also never had the luxury of facing a Big East schedule to get there
February 14th, 2012 at 11:11 AM
That bubble will burst soon enough
In Ohio unemployment for people with High school degrees or less is 13%, for college graduates its like 6%.
Not sure if that bubble is going to burst. I realize some people made some bad decisions w/ loans but education remains the #1 way to vertical socioeconomic movement.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:12 AM
That bubble will burst soon enough. Combination of tons of underemployment with lower salaries and exorbitant cost of education the last 10 or so years. If I recall correctly, Bankruptcy doesn’t wipe out student loans either.
You are correct, it does not. However, there is a provision in place that allows most Federal Student loan borrowers to have their loans forgiven after 25 years of repayment, regardless of the remaining balance.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:12 AM
They also never had the luxury of facing a Big East schedule to get there
Big 12 North wasn’t exactly a powerhouse division for awhile there.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Mizzou gets there if the Big 12 has no title game.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Know lots of people with MBAs. Know zero people who can say their MBA truly distinguishes them from anyone else.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:13 AM
I don’t know if it can, though. A college education is a must for anybody who wants a white collar job. If the demand doesn’t drop, I don’t see the Federal Loans going away, or even decreasing.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:13 AM
Duffy, are you going to have anything on that Mountain West/C-USA clusterfuck of a conference?
February 14th, 2012 at 11:14 AM
stories about the rampant cheating the SWC from people that were around back in the day are quite entertaining.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:14 AM
poor Mizzou got bumped for Kansas in that one Orange Bowl
Mizzou absolutely skull-fucked Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl that year.
I remember that. That is the game where Tony Temple gained 30% of his total yards for the season and TBL was claiming he was going to be a NFL back. At the same time Temple was working across the street from my old house at Dick’s Sporting Goods. I’m not sure where I’m going with this story, but Fuck Mizzou.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:14 AM
you interpreted that correctly.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:14 AM
WV is a better football program than Missou. I realize they had some recent success but the WVU prides itself in having the lowest enrollment standards so they get plenty of skim. They have a great niche.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Mizzou also was one game away from the title game is 2007. #1 Mizzou lost to OU on the same day #2 West Virginia lost to Pitt which allowed LSU/OSU to make the BCS Championship.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:16 AM
Friend who went to Pitt said he got an email with a link to a porn site with some WVU students having an orgy in a WVU dorm. WVU logos and posters all over the place. Perhaps the proceeds from this will help offset those costs.
In West Virginia that is called a Family Reunion
February 14th, 2012 at 11:16 AM
I’m in the middle (actually, almost 2/3) of getting my MBA, and I view it like Pepsi or Coke advertising. Coke running the SB ads with the polar bears isn’t going to increase their market share, but they have to just to protect what they have.
An MBA isn’t going to magically open doors for me, but not having it could hurt me if the prospective employer wanted to cut down the stack of resumes on his desk in a hurry.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Yeah, I agree with all of that.
Bottom line ritty, it was right for me at that time. I am happy with my degree (though I wish I’d tried a little harder as an undergrad), I’m happy that I’m getting a Masters here as well, but it would not be right for me if I was a high school senior now.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
The Tigers were fucking robbed that year by the BCS. Totally robbed.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Thank you very much Federal Student loans!
That bubble will burst soon enough. Combination of tons of underemployment with lower salaries and exorbitant cost of education the last 10 or so years. If I recall correctly, Bankruptcy doesn’t wipe out student loans either.
And if you’re seeking a higher ed degree (quickly becoming a must in many fields), you are not given the same financial aid avenues that undergrads get. No grants, no work study. It’s all loans.
Trust me, it gets me that every semester I’m charged a $50 yearbook fee, but I’ve yet to see a damn yearbook — but I’ll be paying for it in 2020.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Despite what I said earlier, I agree with this. Just another one of those waste of time hurdles you have to jump to get your foot in the door.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Gary Pinkel has a great niche too. He’ll be in a bowl game every year because teams without first round talent on defense can’t stop their offense long enough to win.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:19 AM
WVU prides itself in having the lowest enrollment standards so they get plenty of skim. They have a great niche.
So they’re the Russell Brand of Universities?
February 14th, 2012 at 11:20 AM
stories about the rampant cheating the SWC from people that were around back in the day are quite entertaining.
Indeed. Back in the day in the SWC, if you weren’t cheating, you weren’t trying.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Depends on what you’re doing.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Not as bad as Kansas State that year when the played for the championship if they beat Texas A&M in the Big 12 title game, but fell to the Alamo Bowl when they lost.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
The Tigers were fucking robbed that year by the BCS. Totally robbed.
I prefer the term out-maneuvered. If their fans would actually travel to games, it wouldn’t have been an issue.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
True, but the B12 title game screwed them over. It’s semantics saying they’ve never played for a BCS bowl when they were 11-2 one year and were passed by a team that was 11-1 whom they beat. Again, the B12 people will say they made out like bandits because they feel they have to. It’s more of a wash in reality.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
I was poli-sci as well. That entire major is a waste of time. I followed it up with law school. Should have done something in economics/business, anything more practical than Comparative Politics: Britain, USA 2160 or Presidential Legacies 101 or whatever the hell else I was taking. There were some really, really liberal professors in that department, too, even at Auburn. I had one guy in the Presidential something or another class teach JFK, LBJ, Carter, all glowingly, then did a hit piece on Reagan. I wrote my final analyzing Reagan to W. Bush (this would have been 2002-03). It was flawless. He gave me a B+ solely on subject matter.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:23 AM
So they’re the Russell Brand of Universities?
Toledo and Marshall are like the Dane Cook and Carlos Mencias of his world, trying to overthrow his rep.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:23 AM
/looks at SoCar, UGA, Florida and Bama’s defense
//yikes
So true. Michael Bishop was so good.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
I don’t know if it can, though. A college education is a must for anybody who wants a white collar job. If the demand doesn’t drop, I don’t see the Federal Loans going away, or even decreasing.
Undergrads who reside on campus at SMU will end up owing close to $60,000 for next year alone…to say nothing of the other three or more years. There will be a point in time where attending college becomes cost prohibitive again, such as it was before the Higher Education Act of 1965 and the Montgomery GI Bill after World War II. Those two programs, more than anything else, democratized college attendance and made it available to huge swatches of the public that never could have afforded it previously. Along with the increased attendance at universities came the increased expectation that a job applicant would have a college degree. But even in the year 2000, it bears mentioning, only 26% of the American public had a college degree of some type.
Without some major changes to federal Title IV funding through the HEA, colleges will, over the next 10-20 years, start to become cost prohibitive again if tuition stays on its current track.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
The night the legend of Breesus was born…sure it helped that KSU sleepwalked through most of the game but still an exciting finish
February 14th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Good for him.
/that entire rant sounded like some epic sour grapes, by the way
February 14th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
I was poli-sci as well. That entire major is a waste of time. I followed it up with law school. Should have done something in economics/business, anything more practical than Comparative Politics: Britain, USA 2160 or Presidential Legacies 101 or whatever the hell else I was taking
Best piece of advice I got in undergrad was: Go get a degree that you can get a job with on Day 1 after you graduate. Avoid degrees that require you to keep going to a professional school (Pre-Med, Pre-Law). Even if you get a history degree, you can turn around and use it as a history teacher after certification.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
I was poli-sci as well. That entire major is a waste of time.
I won’t go so far as to say it was a waste of time for me, but I will say that there is an oversaturation of people studying poly sci and things like that right now. But the professors and classes I had taught me political context, critical thinking, and analysis. The only part of my undergraduate career I would change, if I could go back in time, would have been to also major in History instead of just minor in it.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
I think the where is more important than anything else.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Whew!! I was beginning to ready the noose.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:27 AM
i feel like an idiot now…jesus. yall some educated people.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:27 AM
When I taught mass comm in college, we had more of our grads get jobs out of school with Enterprise than we did in the business. I’m fb friends with a lot of my former students, and most of them were out the business 5 years later and got certified for teaching.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
I think the where is more important than anything else.
This is true. A friend’s sister got her MBA at William and Mary. A fine school to be sure, but the professors there had no connection with jobs or corporations in Texas. So she still lives in Virginia where the jobs network is much smaller than it would be if she got her MBA at say, McCombs School of Business at UT.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
My Masters has helped earn compliments when told I’m not getting a job because I’m overqualified or they think I’d be bored…what a time to be alive
February 14th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Undergrads who reside on campus at SMU will end up owing close to $60,000 for next year alone…
That’s just crazy ridiculous given it’s only for a Bachelor’s degree. Now a bachelor’s degree doesn’t automatically guarantee a job that has a salary that can support those types of monthly payments. $60,000 a year?! I mean, for some people that has to at least $500 a month once you have to start paying those loans off. Yikes.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Not true, at least not in the CFO world. My mother owns a boutique recruiting firm and specializes in high-level accounting and she is always amazed where they got their MBAs. Many more Northern Illinois’ than Harvards.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
Where are the parents, letting people take these loans and private colleges? Once you’re in for 1 year you almost feel trapped and stay for 4, upping the loans. They should just wipe out the 2nd half of your sr. year in high school and explain loans and credit to people for 4 months. My gawd.
I empathize with having a student loan hanging over you. I’d be bitter too. I was very fortunate.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
Should have added SMU and Houston as well
February 14th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
That sounds terrible. Any luck on the job front? Job-hunting can suck a bag of dicks. Such a terrible thing to deal with.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
SYNERGY.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
That’s just crazy ridiculous given it’s only for a Bachelor’s degree. Now a bachelor’s degree doesn’t automatically guarantee a job that has a salary that can support those types of monthly payments. $60,000 a year?! I mean, for some people that has to at least $500 a month once you have to start paying those loans off. Yikes.
Well, that amount is before scholarships, grants, and loans. But the problem is that the COA (Cost of Attendance) is increasing faster than availability of scholarships and grants (free money) which in turn means that loans, of all types, are making up a larger part of higher education financing.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
I empathize with having a student loan hanging over you. I’d be bitter too. I was very fortunate.
Yeah, i feel as though I dodged a major bullet… only had to take out a 5K loan senior year… have it down under 3K now… could pay if off completely now, but the interest is so low it’s not really worth it.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Prisoner’s Dilemma.
/putting my MBA to use
February 14th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
Bachelor’s in Chemical Engineering, 16 years working in the IT field and a an Executive MBA has not gotten me where I want to be.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
SYNERGY.
/demonstratively interlocks fingers to demonstrate/create synergy.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Yuuuuup.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
I also taught at a small private NAIA school where the football players were in my speech class. They were racking up 80,000 plus in student loans and they told me it would be okay when they got their shot in the NFL. And you couldn’t tell them that there are like literally 3 NAIA players in the NFL right now.
College students are very delusional. I felt sorry for most of the kids I taught because they were wrecking their lives with debt and weren’t smart enough to realize that they weren’t even motivated enough to graduate.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Prisoner’s Dilemma.
I’m not going to click on that link, but I’m pretty certain that if you KNOW you can get away with it, you should definitely bang your hot coed students.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
dilemma? sounds more like a party.
/team fuck advertisers in the face repeatedly with a knife
February 14th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
College students are very delusional. I felt sorry for most of the kids I taught because they were wrecking their lives with debt and weren’t smart enough to realize that they weren’t even motivated enough to graduate.
A thousand times THIS. I see it every day. It’s sad, and what makes it worse is that they don’t care to listen to anyone who tells them that their “college dream” is prohibitively expensive and could wreck their future. They don’t want to hear that.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Nope. That guy was legitimately biased. Especially since my paper was devoted to positives and negatives of the Reagan/W. Bush leadership styles, and I actually spent time preparing it alongside a friend and constant fuck up who got an A for a paper about Kennedy beating Nixon because he was pretty on TV.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Unless of course they want to advertise with my company. That would be awesome.
/seriously
February 14th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Wait, nope, you’re right…sour grapes.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
There’s a point to be made about that, though.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Ritty, you want liberal?
This guy was one of the professors in my graduate program.
Fascinating guy though. He wears sunglasses all the time, but not because he thinks he looks cool. He does it because he got shot in the face with a tear gas canister when he was a student at George Washington in the 60s and he still has a serious light sensitivity issue.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Um, didn’t Nixon never bother to ask Ike for help stumping? Nixon fouled that campaign up badly on a # of fronts.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
who got an A for a paper about Kennedy beating Nixon because he was pretty on TV.
There’s a point to be made about that, though.
That’s a point that we’re all taught in 8th grade civics class though. At least I was.
/not sure if you were being sarcastic
February 14th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
but not because he thinks he looks cool. He
I think those shades look cool in any scenario
February 14th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
No, there definitely was. But that’s an open and shut case. Kennedy wore makeup, looked like a bronzed hero, while Nixon looked pasty and sweaty. But carrying that obvious fact in a 5 page paper full of grammatical mistakes still garnered this dude an A. I write about how Jimmy Carter gets a bum wrap, literally say bum wrap in the paper, I get an A+.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Exactly.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
I was in the honors program, had some great teachers. One guy was an actuary who made the model for when BK would do their $.99 whoppers. He had great stories from Exxonn too. Another guy did geological exans on the aquifers below the Great Plains and such. The Honoros programs hurt my GPA a bit (no help like h.s.) but I avoided a # of large intro classes and was in with great students.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
It’s just as bad in high school. I just had a kid I like drop out because he already had a 25,000 dollar a year job. I told him he would still have that 25,000 dollar a year job when he was my age and he wouldn’t be living with his parents. He dropped out anyway.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
Well hell yeah he’s fascinating:
February 14th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
My favorite poli-sci guy at Auburn was originally from the Bronx, was a huge Yankees fan, and also a huge liberal. When he felt he was being biased, he would acknowledge it, and say he’s not allowed to say what he really thinks in the classroom…so he’d go out in the hallway and yell at us from there. I disagreed with everything he said from out there but it was still awesome.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
I was fortunate enough that going back and getting my masters actually is directly responsible for getting my current job. The debt sucks but in the grand scheme it’s not something I will be paying off forever (as opposed to my lawyer and doctor friends).
February 14th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
Thats a lot of meth just to go from the big man on campus in that shit conference to an also ran in a real one.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
I love the Dan Aykroyd SNL bit where he’s talking to the JFK painting about how “sex with women would never happen in Dick Nixon’s White House.” Cracks me up everytime.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
I know football is all anyone cares about and they fly in their own plane, but if you’re on the girls lax team or something, how many flight connections does it take to get from Texas Tech to Morgantown? 3? 4? Youre in the airport system for like 30 hours both ways.
February 14th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
if you have to wear tinted glasses all the time, the only way to do it is Walter Sobchak style.