Ballin’: Kyrie Irving Beats Celtics with a Layup, Widens Rookie of the Year Lead Over Ricky Rubio
LA Lakers 106, Minnesota 101: There’s already panic in LA, but if the Lakers lost back-to-back games to the Bucks and Wolves, it would have been DEFCON 2. Kobe scored 35 points and collected 14 rebounds. Ricky Rubio had another nightmare from the field (2-for-13) but he did have eight assists and zero turnovers. Kevin Love went for 33-14 and if he keeps up this pace, he might finish in the top five in points (4th) and rebounds (2nd).
LA Clippers 109, Denver 105: Chauncey Billups returned to Denver and scored a season-high 32 points, including six three-pointers (or, as many as the Nuggets made as a team). Denver, which played without Birdman and Ty Lawson, had a 6-game win streak snapped and fell to 14-6, which is still good for 2nd best record in the West. The Clippers (11-6) have played fewer games than anyone else in the league to this point, but the game at Denver started LA’s toughest stretch so far this season – five games in seven nights. They’re in Oklahoma City tonight.
Boston 87, Cleveland 88: Brutal way to end a 4-game winning streak – giving up the final 12 points of the game and losing. At home. Kyrie Irving’s whirling dervish layup in traffic was the game-winner. Irving finished with 23 points and at the 1/3 mark in the season, he’s your ROY. Ricky Rubio’s been terrific, but Irving’s been off-the-charts good. For what it’s worth, Rajon Rondo did not play (wrist). Cleveland: 8-11. Boston 9-10.
Dallas 101, San Antonio 100, OT: The Spurs rallied behind their bench in the 2nd half, then Jason Terry (34 points) saved the Mavs’ with this clutch shot to tie it up. Then, Danny Green appeared to win it for San Antonio! But it was waved off by the refs. Then, Dallas survived in overtime. Some game. Dirk scored 10 points and took 13 rebounds in his first game back from resting his knee.
Indiana 106, Orlando 85: The Magic are falling apart and the guess here is that using the Super Bowl as a smokescreen, trade talks quietly ramp up this week. Dwight Howard (4-for-15 on FTs) is pissed and the hot start is a distant memory. It was a grueling week for Orlando, which lost four of five. The four losses came by a combined 86 points (8, 21, 26, 31).
Atlanta 94, New Orleans 72: The Hawks are 15-6. Yes, the same Hawks that lost Jordan Jamal Crawford in the offseason and Al Horford earlier this season. Sounds like last year, right? A decent showing in the playoffs by Jeff Teague has carried over to this year and he’s playing very well (24 points in the win). For New Orleans, Chris Kaman sat out for the second game in a row due to an “organizational decision.” The Celtics may be interested.

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January 30th, 2012 at 11:11 AM
The fuck?
January 30th, 2012 at 11:13 AM
What the fuck is with the Bulls boycott? Seems completely ridiculous not to include the Heat-Bulls game, which was totally excellent.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:13 AM
I would really love to see Orlando get the best offer they can and not give a fuck what Dwight thinks about it.
Kryie >>>>
January 30th, 2012 at 11:14 AM
I laughed
January 30th, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Bulls-Heat… Bulls down 11 in the 4th, stage great comeback, Rose misses 2 FTs down 1, Bron and Chalmers go 1-4 on FTs right after that, Rose misses game-tying shot.
Final minute was pretty much a shitshow, but leading up to it was really awesome, competitive bball. Lebron and Rose both had multiple incredible plays, especially Lebron.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:16 AM
When’s the last time the Rookie of the Year was decided this early?
January 30th, 2012 at 11:16 AM
Didn’t see the game and was actually looking forward to reading about it here, actually.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:16 AM
I’ve finally caught a few of his games in the last week. That guy is legit; very fun to watch.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
OK… well, anyways. Heat deserved to win that game as they certainly played like the better team. Bosh had a really nice game and LeBron obviously got off to a good start but didn’t close well. I was encouraged by the Bulls play considering no Deng and no Watson. Same story when the Bulls play the Heat though. If Derrick has to do it alone, they lose.
The officiating was fucking terrible though. All around. Ronnie Brewer got a roadcookin call as did Derrick at the end. LeBron got away with travels and got at least 3 gift trips to the FT stripe. That whole end to the game was ridiculous. 3 officials on the floor and not a one of them knew what happened. Outcome of the game was correct but we shouldn’t have to deal with a jump ball as an ending because the referees weren’t paying attention.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
Gotta love NBA officials in a nationally televised game having an Inadvertant Whistle with under 30 seconds to go. That was embarrassing.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
Clear back in 2011.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
did I just imagine that Heat/Bulls game?
January 30th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Sorry, I copied that from after the preseason game.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Not including the Bulls and the Heat seems just stupid. I don’t get it. It doesn’t help the page clicks and the editor of this website loves basketball therefore I know he watched the game.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Who?
/Jamal
//get a copy editor for the love of god
January 30th, 2012 at 11:19 AM
So Jason, will you address why you forgot/chose not to include a roundup of the game in which (arguably) the top two teams in the NBA played in primetime? Or is that coming in a ratings post later on?
January 30th, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Even though it was the regular season I was still pissed off. Not the end of the world though. But if this was the playoffs? Can you imagine that? Thibodeau would have killed David Stern on the spot.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Maybe they get their own post. I look forward to reading about Rose choking from the line only to see LeFraud try to choke it right back.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
When Irving goes down with a blown knee I’ll be sure to link to this comment.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
Thibs would have to get past Birdman first and I don’t see that happening.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
irving wouldn’t have gotten that chance if rondo was playing.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:23 AM
cleveland’s cursed enough as it is, thankyouverymuch…we don’t need to pour gasoline on this tire fire.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:23 AM
I hope so. Can’t believe Rose missed those, as he’s pretty much been money from the line this year.
I got a text from my idiot friend that’s a Heat fan that was just an extended “hahahaha” right after the Rose FTs. While the Bulls lost, I enjoy the thought that he sweat a great deal after Bron and Chalmers missed those FTs until the end of the game.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Disagree. Rondo isn’t an elite on-ball defender. More of a great rover.
Plus, Kyrie’s been getting to the rim on just about everyone all year.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
you mean that rondo couldn’t rove while irving was doing his spinny shit in the lane?
January 30th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
I’ll like Kyrie when he forces a move away from that shithole, but for now, come on team knee injury!
January 30th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Just saw the highlights of the Pro Bowl. What a joke that game is. The DE’s didn’t even care to rush the passer. Might as well just have a 7v7 skeleton drill. Who actually watches that game?
January 30th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Miami should have won that game by a lot more. I’m still not sure how the Bulls stayed in it. Especially since the 2nd unit was getting worked most of the afternoon and that’s where the Bulls need to make hay against Miami.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
and to think, you asked me to buy you mellow enhancing nuggets…pssh.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Are we convinced Kyrie is good now? (honest question). Where are all those people saying he only played 12 college games, you can’t draft him that high, etc.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:27 AM
WELL I DONT SEE YOU SUGGESTING WE OPEN OUR GROW OP IN FUCKING EUCLID
January 30th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Probably good for him that he didn’t get too many of Coach K’s Pro-Career Killing Tips under his belt.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
no…i suggested arkansas.
/im not sure what we can glean from that
January 30th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
I’ve seen enough of Kyrie now to know that he’s the real deal. Now, it’s time for him to break his left wrist and be out for the rest of the season. Cavs can get rid of a few guys before the deadline and tank the rest of the year to get another top 5 draft choice.
/How you win in the Association
January 30th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Bulls-Heat conclusion was a dumpster-fire-level abortion.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
I guess ROY is given to the rookie who scores the most but is not a good defender, doesn’t set the offense up, doesn’t rebound as much and is not making his teammates better by being a floor leader. Yep Kyrie should win it over Rubio then based just on scoring.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Last year.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
It’s hard to totally overlook a shooting percentage of 37 vs. 50+, despite some of the other stuff.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Heat won on the last possession, at home, with the Bulls playing without Deng. If the two teams can avoid the ‘Rose and James missing 4 consecutive FT in the last ten seconds’ game and the refs pull their collective head out of their collective ass, this should be one hell of an ECF.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Link?
January 30th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Kyrie’s 7 minutes less per game might make a difference no? Kyrie’s passing is just fine, can’t create assists out of your ass when your best finisher is Varejao.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
I’m surprised no one picked up on how absurd this statement by Young Jason is. The Super Bowl as a smokescreen for Dwight Howard trade talks??? LOL.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Teams will evantually figure out that its better to not help on Rubio and stick with your man in order to take away the passing lanes. Let him beat you with his offense. Rose plays like Iverson, except that he isn’t as good. Its funny how people like to talk about shot selection and number of shots taken based on who they like or don’t like.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
lebron’s first game as a professional.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Vitriol aside, going by the numbers, Rubio has been a lot better for TWolves than Irving has been for the Cavs. Mainly due to the aforementioned defensive deficiencies.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
lebron’s first game as a professional.
against Sacramento!
watched that my freshman year in the dorms.
shit, I’m getting old.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Reggie, watch some games and not just ESPN highlights.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Women’s Professional Soccer is shutting down.
Women’s sports: not real or viable. GTFO, ladies.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Link?
January 30th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
except for tennis and synchronized sandwich artistry.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
You know what’s bullshit? In tennis, the prize money for grand slam events is the same for the winners. That is, the women play less tennis and get paid the same. The men are getting paid less for more work. Fucking glass ceiling.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
Women’s sports: not real or viable. GTFO, ladies.
Beach Volleyball and all that pool on the early days of ESPN would like a word.
/should have a small # of women’s teams that play before MLS games.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
Well OBVIOUSLY I don’t mean sports you can crank it to.
/Team Jeanette Lee
January 30th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
I don’t necessarily agree with the whole “plays like Iverson” idea, but I also don’t see why this is a bad thing if you’re implying that a 23 year old is a little worse than Iverson. I watched the game and I only counted 1-2 bad shots from Rose. He missed a lot of layups he normally makes. Are you trying to imply that Rose is selfish and a chucker? Anyone with half a brain that watches basketball can see that’s not true.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
January 30th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
It’s a shame I moved from NYC because I think I’d enjoy watching this Knicks and Flab Melo mess unfold on nightly basis.
Granted, expect them to turn it around and make the playoffs in the Least. Too bad the Warriors remain a completely hopeless cause.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
After Brandon Jennings went for 55 a couple years back
January 30th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
god damned affirmative action…when will it ever stop?
January 30th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
Warriors played OKC pretty close on Friday until the Thunder went turbo in the 4th.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Skipped through the comments, but I just think Rose was gassed at that point of the game. He was oddly passive right before that and allowed Rip to eff up multiple time. Having no CJ for the game hurt.
Overall, I’m not that angry about the loss. Thought the Heat would cruise with a comfortable 10-15pt margin throughout the game without Deng.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Is it really that hard not to include the words “porn” “naked” or “dong” in a URL? Try “pron” instead. Fukin throw us work readers a bone TB-El.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Look at the rest of that Cavs roster. Who the hell is he going to make better? At least Rubio has Love. The Cavs need scoring, and Irving is incredibly efficient. Shoots 54% from 2, 40% from 3, 80% from the line. Both guys have elevated their teams but let’s not make it out like Irving is a chucker.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
I don’t subscribe to the whole chucker moniker to describe someone who has the ability to score. Scoring is a skill. I just find it funny that people would rationalize that label based on who there favorite player is.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
Iverson sure was.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Derek Rose needs to develop a 12 footer. You should not be overhand chucking floaters from that distance. That’s a terrible shot.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
David Lee needs to hit the road.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
And when you go to far to assert that “skill”, you can potentially undermine the team by…say….not passing to an open teammate who has a higher percentage shot lined up. That’s Basketball 101. Has nothing to do with who someone’s favorite player is.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
That’s fair, but who are you referring to? Once upon a time, Iverson was one of my favorite players.
I just don’t know if I agree that their respective playing styles are as similar as I’ve heard many people say. I would probably argue that Rose plays a little bit more like a natural PG, looking to pass more (not that there’s anything wrong with the amount that Iverson passed on those shitty 76ers teams). Compared to Iverson at this point, I’d say Rose has a similar, if not better, ability to get to the rim, but his jumper clearly still needs a lot of work.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
Also, just because I need to get this off my chest… It blows my fucking mind how many wide open shots Carlos Boozer will fade away and brick.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
scoring is not a skill…shooting is a skill. dribbling is a skill. scoring is simply the result of the implementation of a variety of skills, but not a skill in and of itself.
shot selection is also not a skill, it’s a choice.
there have been a lot of chuckers who don’t score as much…not because their scoring skill sucks but because the skills that lead to scoring suck.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
He is a limited scorer who is going to get his points from 3′s, layups, or bailout freethrows. That limitation was what I thought this definition of chucker was supposed to be.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:17 PM
What do you want the 6-5 Power forward to do? He has to fade.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:18 PM
connive the blind some more.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:20 PM
The Miami Bulls game was perfect in how I expected it to go. Miami could clearly outplay them when they wanted to, but anytime they would build a nice lead, they’d sleepwalk and let Chicago back into it in the blink of an eye. In other words, despite their obvious talent advantage vs. just about everyone they play, they still make the same stupid mental lapses they did last year, and they still love to dribble the clock out late in games with Lebron 20 feet from the basket. I simply can’t fathom why this team doesn’t begin to evolve and mature a bit. They should have won that game with ease last night, and at the same time they probably should have lost it.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:20 PM
Thats basketball 101 for youth YMCA and CYO leagues where your job is to make everyone happy and pass out orange slices after the game. In grown up basketball, you see the shot, take the shot. you see the pass, make the pass. if you see both, make the prudent play. If you’re the only scorer on the team, you’re doing the defense a favor passing to someone who isn’t going to do anything with it. If you play on a team with more than one scorer, then you scale back your offense. LeBron has been killed on here because he has passed up shots to people who couldn’t do anything with it.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:22 PM
…and that’s my cue to leave.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
Rose career eFG%:49%
Iverson career eFG%: 45%
Rose career ast%: 33%
Iverson career ast% 29%
Rose FGA/game: 17
Iverson FGA/game: 22
January 30th, 2012 at 12:28 PM
skill is the ability to do something. scoring is a skill. The combo of all the attributes you noted make up your skillset.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Got to keep those stats up somehow so that he can swindle one more team in his career. Certainly his only choice being that he plays with no PG.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:29 PM
So, he’s limited in that he can score outside, inside, and at the line?
January 30th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
You’re much less of the oracle than you think you are, but I agree with your condescension here. Though I would approve of the handing out of post-game orange slices.
Hope you have better luck wandering down West Village side streets next time!
January 30th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
Rip Hamilton shoots midrange jumpers because he can’t get to the rim and is a weak 3 point shooter, not because he chooses to do that. That’s all that’s left for him.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
Usage rate would probably be the more apt statistic to look at here.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
Thats great
January 30th, 2012 at 12:33 PM
That’s Basketball 101 too, actually. It’s really not too different from anything I wrote, but if it made you feel better to get that off your chest, I’m happy for you.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:34 PM
just “lucky” I guess
/tear
January 30th, 2012 at 12:34 PM
Rose: 27
Iverson: 32
January 30th, 2012 at 12:36 PM
ie That disproves my point
January 30th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Agreed.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Of course it is. Its just that you guys get lost on the prudent part. Sometimes its necessary to go 10 for 25 depending on the makeup of your team even if that falls under the statistician holy grail of 50%.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:42 PM
The laughable thing is you think that posting numbers without an opinion makes a point.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
/Flab Melo
January 30th, 2012 at 12:46 PM
When it comes to these numbers, you don’t need an opinion. You suggested that Rose is like AI in terms of shot selection and style, only worse. I showed that he actually takes less shots, uses less possessions, shoots a better percentage, and gets more assits. Not really a need to add anything to that.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Though, I agree that your approach is much easier. Just make something up, regardless of truth, and support it with: My Opinion
January 30th, 2012 at 12:48 PM
I agree with that point. I saw the Allen Iverson era in Philly. Who was he going to pass to? George Lynch? They tried to find a secondary scoring to work with Allen and they just couldn’t do it (not always all Allen’s fault….the corpse of Toni Kukoc wasn’t going to get it done either).
My point was more against guys who put up shots because they’ve been labelled “scorers” and feel they have to crank out X number of shots to get theirs when there are viable secondary scoring options.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:50 PM
You forgot to add: reference something that happened 30 years ago.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:57 PM
I think the Iverson vs. Rose comparisons are much closer than some are suggesting. Iverson in his prime was impossible to stop, you simply had to hope he missed. Iverson absolutely made guys around him much better than they really were.
January 30th, 2012 at 1:02 PM
He made his team better. Nothing AI did made Tyrone Hill not suck ass at offensive basketball.
January 30th, 2012 at 1:03 PM
I said he plays like AI except he isn’t as good. You attempt to show me that he is as good, if not better by posting his field goal percentage? Talk sports man, and stop hiding behind the numbers. You saw them play, tell me how Rose is better than Iverson.
January 30th, 2012 at 1:16 PM
like a Gilbert Arenas from a few years ago? I can agree with that.
January 30th, 2012 at 1:45 PM
No, not really.