Santonio Holmes vs. Mark Sanchez: Best East-West Feud Since Biggie vs. Tupac?
Just fix this mess, Rex. Please. The last two Januarys spoiled Jets’ fans greatly. The last two weekends felt hollow without Gang Green playing. I’m barely excited about Championship weekend (49ers -2.5, Patriots -7).
Please pass along my advice to Tanenbaum: Get rid of Plaxico; 1st round pick has to be RT or safety; if you can get Ronnie Brown on the cheap to reunite with Sparano, please do; please don’t overpay for Marques Colston or DeSean Jackson or Laurent Robinson (Pierre Garcon would be nice, though); please upgrade the linebackers, and don’t worry about find a backup to push Sanchez. We’ll know this year what he’s made of, and he fails again … draft a QB in 2013.
Also, if the question is Biggie or Tupac, the answer is Tupac at the gym, Biggie any other time.
Previously: Jets Get Rid of One Problem (Brian Schottenheimer), Now Must Tackle the Other (the Locker Room)
Previously: Santonio Holmes is an Imbecile, and the New York Jets’ 2011 Postmortem
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January 20th, 2012 at 6:20 PM
/furious wanking
January 20th, 2012 at 6:27 PM
I’m loving the shitstorm that is the JETS.
Fourth in the AFC East 2012? Could have happened this year.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:32 PM
Tupac all the time. But Biggie does get them wet…
January 20th, 2012 at 6:35 PM
Eh, I’d pass on Ronnie Brown if I were you. But DeSean Jackson would be worth dropping some coin on. He had a down year which probably lowered his value on the trade market (if he gets franchised) or on the open market as a UFA, due to his down year. I mean he’ll still command a handsome contract, but not like he would have after 2010. If the Jets were to go for him, now would be the time.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:38 PM
I would have no problem with the Jets signing DeSean, because he might kill Sanchez since he can’t throw a ball with any accuracy past 20 yards.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:41 PM
DeSean complained from a distance in Philly because he knows you don’t talk shit to your QB if he just got out of federal prison.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:43 PM
I think his complaints were more towards Fat Andy rather than Vick. Players love to play with Vick.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:46 PM
I think his complaints were more towards Fat Andy rather than Vick. Players love to play with Vick.
Because they know what he did to dogs when they ‘got out of line’.
DeSean was more pissed about his contract situation and how he was being used. But Forte was pissed about his contract situation in Chicago and still put together a pretty damn good season. DeSean just gave up.
Still, the guy has talent. It’s not quite a Terrell Owens level discussion of talent vs. attitude problems, but you have to consider that if DeSean played like he did in a contract year, what’s it going to be like when the QB throwing to him is underthrowing by 10 yards on every deep route (deep route running being where DeSean’s value is).
January 20th, 2012 at 6:49 PM
Love Biggie. Absolutely love him. He’s the man.
But come on…
January 20th, 2012 at 6:52 PM
Kobe’s Ex-Wife Gets 75 Million In Divorce Settlement And 3 Mansions.
That just make me squirm. I get Newport Beach is goddamn gorgeous, but who really needs 3 mansions in Newport fucking Beach. Christ.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:52 PM
I so hate this team lately. I’ve never gone from liking to hating something so much. Just disappointments everywhere. Having said that, RT in the 1st round is PARA FUCKING MOUNT. And get me Peyton. I don’t give a shit about cap space, health, or any other rational observations. Just bring him to me.
/slams desk
//walks out of room cursing
January 20th, 2012 at 6:53 PM
Bone did 2 classics with both Tupac and Biggie, clearly Bone wins.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:55 PM
Kobe’s Ex-Wife Gets 75 Million In Divorce Settlement And 3 Mansions.
Reminds me of this.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:57 PM
Five greatest rappers of all time…Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan and Dylan.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:58 PM
Daylon, Daylon, Daylon, Daylon, Daylon…. Close enough Mantis.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:58 PM
Time the get this weekend started. I’m out kids.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:59 PM
TBL is drunkposting. I haven’t seen this since his boy came into the world. He must be in the midst of a 6 pack of MGD again. Outside shot of TBLAD? Well, no. That has been dead for a couple years. However, TBL drunkposting is entertainment.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:59 PM
For lyrics and storytelling that moves a crowd? Biggie, and it isn’t even that close. If it wasn’t for that contrived East Coast West Coast thing, the comparisons would be between Biggie, Jay, and Nas because they’re similar rappers.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:00 PM
TBL is drunkposting. I haven’t seen this since his boy came into the world. He must be in the midst of a 6 pack of MGD again. Outside shot of TBLAD? Well, no. That has been dead for a couple years. However, TBL drunkposting is entertainment.
Nothing like dipping your balls in a passed out friend’s mouth while your bladder is engorged with urine from a six pack of Michelob Ultra.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:01 PM
The answer is always Biggie. Unless it’s mother’s day or I’m feeling in a socially conscious mood.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:02 PM
This shit is softer than Common vs. Drake.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:03 PM
I had a hard time understanding Biggie. He enunciated poorly. And, Suge Knight reminded us about the danger of “the producer all up in the videos…”
Tupac was probably nuts, but he was a talented cat.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:04 PM
Since Illmatic, Nas hasn’t been able to pick a beat that fits his flow to save his life. ’tis really a shame.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:05 PM
So, so comical how Rex is supposed to fix this when he’s enabled this catastrophe with his loudmouth bullshitting.
Welcome to being a Vikings fan! Happened practically overnight from ’00 to ’01 and ’09 to ’10
January 20th, 2012 at 7:05 PM
Tupac is so much better than that fatfuck biggie. Love all west coast rap, east coast rap sound like a bunch of pussies talking about Brooklyn and necklaces
January 20th, 2012 at 7:06 PM
and don’t worry about find a backup to push Sanchez.
Maybe the search for his replacement starts now. Just like in business or the military, always have a short list of heirs apparent or line of succession.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:10 PM
These games this weekend are hard to bet on, nothing really stands out.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:12 PM
East coast > West coast
/Wu-Tang Clan ain’t nothing to fuck with
January 20th, 2012 at 7:16 PM
He really had an all star list of producers on that first album which he hasn’t replicated.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:19 PM
Oh, and let me use this space to keep complaining about Andre 3000 still delivering epic verses on other people’s songs, but not giving me a COT DAMN ALBUM.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:20 PM
/Throws up the Wu-Tang sign
//diversify your bonds
January 20th, 2012 at 7:20 PM
What Mantis said.
/diversifies my bonds
January 20th, 2012 at 7:22 PM
Welcome to my gravel pit.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:25 PM
some people are better at being part of a duo. Putting together an entire solo album is a different animal. He’ll probably have alot of collabs on his album if he ever drops one.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:25 PM
Handcuffed in back of a bus, forty of us… Life as a shorty shouldn’t be so rough.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:28 PM
What I meant was an Outkast album. I’m jonesing for some new Outkast like a fiend. And I don’t care if they throw a million people on it. But I need 12 songs with BB and 3 Stacks on each one. Period. I will continue to bitch and moan (and be well within reason of my bitching and moaning) until I get my way.
/crosses arms
//blows hair from side of my face
January 20th, 2012 at 7:28 PM
necklaces? what is this 1987?
//someone’s been stealing their opinions from an Ice T Behind the Music Documentary
January 20th, 2012 at 7:29 PM
Cash rules everything around me C.R.E.A.M get the money
January 20th, 2012 at 7:31 PM
Ready to die, why I act that way? Pop dukes left ma dukes,The faggot took the back way.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:32 PM
I support you. While you’re at it, bitch and moan a little more until Erick and Parrish Making Dollars put on a reunion show.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:32 PM
Andre > Big Boi, but I know Speakerboxxx > The Love Below. Big Boi is the better solo artist of the two, but neither is half as good as the sum of their parts.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:34 PM
The bigger question is that will Dre ever release Rehab or is it a pipe dream at this point.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:35 PM
Why stop there? Someone call Eric B & Rakim.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:36 PM
forgot what post i was in when i originally said this:
Like the Giants said after their win last week.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:37 PM
Only for you. God, I don’t know how long ago, couldn’t be more than like 6-7 years ago: They must have been on hot 97 or somewhere. I wish I could remember exactly what time, might have been noon. But they were there just freestyling like it was no big deal. Time absolutely had not passed them by.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:37 PM
Legends.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:37 PM
hell, thats where I’d begin.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:37 PM
Saw Big Boi over the summer at a music festival he was good, but Outkast getting back together would be ridiculous.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:39 PM
Good thing Soundgarden is coming out with a new album, and actually doing something with their reunion. Not playing one or two festivals in Europe every year.
/looking at you rage against the machine.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:39 PM
Its been a long time, I’m sorry I left you, without strong rhyme to step to. Think of all of these weak shows you slept through. Times up, sorry I kept you…….
January 20th, 2012 at 7:40 PM
all that matters is that Kanye West should go fuck himself.
/agree with Darrell on Biggie, Eric B. and Rakim, Nas, etc.
//i am so white
January 20th, 2012 at 7:41 PM
Dear Lauryn Hill,
I know you’re enjoying your life as a mother but will you please make another album?
January 20th, 2012 at 7:42 PM
“I came in the door, I said it before. I never let the mic magnetize me no more.” is just perfection.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:43 PM
I used to roll up, this is a hold up, ain’t nothing funny. Stop smilin, be still and don’t move nothin but the money.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:45 PM
….its fighting me, biting me, inviting me to rhyme, I can’t hold it, I’m looking for the line. Taking off my coat, clearing my throat, the rhymes will be kickin, until I hit my last note….
January 20th, 2012 at 7:46 PM
Wow.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:46 PM
she’s gone bat shit crazy
January 20th, 2012 at 7:46 PM
The flame that I should have enjoyed most while it was burning was The Score by the Fugees. What was that for me? 6th/7th grade? I think I loved that album more than I’ve loved anything.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:47 PM
vlad,
you’re right..that came across bad. I’m just wishing for another album and hope she decides to get back in the studio.
/family first
January 20th, 2012 at 7:48 PM
Thinkin of a master plan…’cause ain’t nothin but sweat inside my hand. So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent, so I dig deeper but still comin up with lint. So I start my mission, leave my residence, thinkin how could I get some dead presidents? I need money.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:48 PM
I mean The Carnival was alright. Miseducation of Lauryn Hill was absolutely fantastic. But The Score… I don’t think I can even explain how good that was to myself.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:48 PM
All right stop, collaborate and listen, Ice is back with a brand new invention..
Oops, wrong meeting.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:49 PM
honest question: How good was missy elliott during her run in the late 90s and early 2000s? I never paid much attention to her music but I get the feeling I missed out on some good albums
January 20th, 2012 at 7:49 PM
You take 7 mc’s put em in a line, add 7 more brothers who think they can rhyme. it’ll take 7 more before I go for mine. Now thats 21 emcees ate up at the same time
January 20th, 2012 at 7:50 PM
more old school rap, less new rap sodomized by autotune
January 20th, 2012 at 7:51 PM
Now that I think of it, and maybe because this was during my middle school/high school days of just grinding with chicks whenever the songs came on… but not a lot of Missy songs that I hated. Even when she sang, I was feeling her stuff.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:52 PM
They were hot, and they had the right place and right time thing going for them since they came at the end of that so called East Coast, West Coast thing.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:56 PM
Do not agree, Kanye has been less assholish recently, and produced a lot of what I consider one of greatest albums in hip-hop, the Blueprint
GOAT – Eminem
January 20th, 2012 at 7:57 PM
I really can’t believe how young guys like Nas, Big Daddy Kane and Rakim were when they released classics that will likely never be topped. That must be weird to release your magnum opus when you’re 18, 19 years old.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:57 PM
Clarification: as a rapper he can go fuck himself. He’s a fantastic producer but I do not like him on the mic
January 20th, 2012 at 7:58 PM
I seen her in the subway on my way to Brooklyn. I said hello good lookin, is this seat tookin? On the A train, picking at her brain, Couldn’t get her number, couldn’t get her name. I said I still like your style of fashion, but I hate your hostile attitude with a passion……..
January 20th, 2012 at 7:59 PM
I can’t stop looking at gina carano’s rack at the top of the page.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:59 PM
Who is the most overrated and/or terrible popular rapper today?
January 20th, 2012 at 8:00 PM
*fist-bump*
January 20th, 2012 at 8:02 PM
LL was even younger.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:02 PM
I mean, they aren’t the only people to do something you qualify as great at that age. I know this is a terrible example, but think of the guys that were in Back Street Boys, New Kids on The block, and N Sync. Just imagine being 18-20 years old and having completed arena filling world tours. Actually, don’t. Because now I want to kill myself. For various reasons.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:04 PM
Shit, the monster that is Lil Wayne was integral to Cash Money about half his lifetime ago. And he’s turning 30.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:04 PM
The Beastie Boys were that old when they hit it big, and they are still one of the GOAT.
/is that racist?
January 20th, 2012 at 8:06 PM
i love the Beastie Boys but I just did not enjoy Hot Sauce Committee Part 2 as an entire album. Way too inconsistent.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:07 PM
nah. but if you had said Vanilla Ice……..
January 20th, 2012 at 8:08 PM
I’m Mike D and I get respect. Your cash and your jewelery is what I expect.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:08 PM
or Snow..
January 20th, 2012 at 8:08 PM
The first half of the album is pretty good, but it kinda falls apart afterwards. It seems like 8 of their songs were 1:30 minutes of BS.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:08 PM
That 1 or 2 track foray into reggae was a failure
January 20th, 2012 at 8:09 PM
As long as my Celtics are going to stink this season, I will take pride in laughing at the Knicks.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:10 PM
3rd Bass was nice……You get the Gas Face!!
January 20th, 2012 at 8:10 PM
It’s not even the fame so much. Though, being Beiber right now wouldn’t be bad. It’s just like…to me Illmatic is the greatest rap album ever made, and it’s gotta be in almost everyone’s top 5 rap albums. 20 years later it must be crazy to know you’ll never top that. And it’s not like rappers are gymnasts where 14-22 is basically your window, you can rap forever. There’s gotta be some ambivalence there for peaking that young in your life.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:10 PM
Yeah, because if they were black they would be middle of the pack. No where near the Tribe Called Quest’s of the hip hop game.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:12 PM
ehh..the latest efforts from KRS-One beg to differ
January 20th, 2012 at 8:12 PM
One of my favorites for sure.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:13 PM
never was a Nas fan but the respect is there.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:14 PM
See everyone. TBLAD never went anywhere. Still alive and kicking.
/TBL
January 20th, 2012 at 8:14 PM
Oh yeah Jersey, you have to work even harder to make this one happen!
January 20th, 2012 at 8:16 PM
I’m interested in a list of best rap albums made where the artist/artists had not reached the age of 21.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:19 PM
Aiyyo I gotta put some action on paper, make sure my verse jump up and spread out like the raper.
You may not ever, on this fucking planet, find a bigger ATCQ fan then me.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:20 PM
Best hip hop groups (3+) starts with Tribe, Wu-Tang and NWA. And I’ll steal Simmons’ idea here…Mount Rushmore of Rap is no doubts Tupac, Biggie, Eminem, and either Dre and Jay-Z.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:20 PM
Make it 22 and call it the Len Bias list.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:21 PM
Kris Kross?
/TBL with a BAC of .12
January 20th, 2012 at 8:22 PM
No Dre.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:23 PM
Agree with Vlad. Jay Z over dre
January 20th, 2012 at 8:23 PM
And all this probably supports the theory that Jay Z is probably the best. His first album was when he was 26! And got better!! Probably the most solid case to be made.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:23 PM
Damn. I really want to put The Roots or the Fugees in there but I can’t. That is the right answer.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:24 PM
watching Kitchen Nightmares…Gordon Ramsey is a stone cold killer
January 20th, 2012 at 8:25 PM
I think coming out when he was 26 was to his advantage though. Same for Eminem. I don’t think either would be as good if they got huge at 19.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:26 PM
Eminem’s first five years 98-03 > Jay-Z’s longevity
January 20th, 2012 at 8:27 PM
Not saying anyone is right or wrong… BUT… EPMD, Eric B and Rakim, Gangstarr, Beasties, RUN DMC (Yeah, we need to rethink it with RUN DMC)
January 20th, 2012 at 8:27 PM
Agree with the first two.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:27 PM
Individual rappers I would have to agree with that, though I don’t necessarily think those are the 4 best. A Mt Rushmore of Producers would be interesting too as well.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:28 PM
smackdown livechat
January 20th, 2012 at 8:28 PM
To me, a Mt. Rushmore is the great who inspired the greats. If you’re talking Biggie and Jay-Z, then the top of their pyramid would be Big Daddy Kane. Rakim changed how a rapper flowed. NWA put the West Coast on the map. Run DMC took rap across the charts AND international. You can’t have any list of influence without the Sugarhill Gang. Kurtis Blow was the first solo superstar.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:28 PM
If we’re talking duo’s you gotta put Outkast in that discussion as well.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:29 PM
I don’t know if I agree with this. I may be biased because of geography.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:29 PM
The lack of Public Enemy in this discussion makes me sad. Chuck D, IMO, is the greatest MC ever. But what do I know. I’m listening to this right now.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:30 PM
Duos? It was only one album, but Black Star. talib Kweli and Mos Def. loved their album…and according to wikipedia, a new Black Star album is coming this year
January 20th, 2012 at 8:30 PM
Eminem’s writing, rhyming and style > Jay-Z
Agree with Jersey about EPMD, Eric B. and Rakim. Don’t forget about Bone Thugs, but I guess thats more of the Rap genre.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:30 PM
And since a duo is a group, we have to rethink that group list. And how the fuck are we forgetting Kid N Play.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:30 PM
Yeah. If he died before Encore came out I’d be touting him as the best rapper ever. Unfortunately for his legacy, he didn’t die. I hated everything until Recovery.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:31 PM
Toboggan, agree on Chuck D. There are so many great ones. It’s tough to pare it down
January 20th, 2012 at 8:32 PM
DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince would also like a word.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:32 PM
Elvis was a hero to most, but he never meant shit to me. The sucker was straight racist simple and plain, motherfuck him and John Wayne.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:32 PM
Look, they’re probably my two personal faves, but Eminem with Slim Shady Marshall Mathers, Eminem Show back-to-back-to-back is hard to argue.
Jay did have Life and Times Part 3, Blue and Black, but Eminem was a force of nature in those five years. Considering he had to duet with Elton at the Grammy’s so that the LGBT coalitions would ease off him and it was national news for like a month. Em was like Jordon between 90-93.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:33 PM
I am white and do not like Elvis
January 20th, 2012 at 8:33 PM
Lets Get Free – Dead Prez is one of my favorite albums from a duo.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:34 PM
Now that I can get behind. I think it’s universal that there isn’t a track that Eminem can’t get on and absolutely rip. You may hate this comparison, but if you look at their career arcs, Eminem and Busta Rhymes have too many similarities to ignore. Their substance is way different, but their ability to just straight MURDER tracks is undeniable.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:34 PM
I think Public Enemy’s legacy died when Flavor Flav starting banging a post Cobra Brigitte Nielsen.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:35 PM
Whoever put together this list of VH1s 100 greatest artists of all time should be shot. coldplay higher than Otis Redding? Fuck you guys.
/sittin on the dock of the bay
January 20th, 2012 at 8:37 PM
In that case Melle Mel needs to make that list
January 20th, 2012 at 8:37 PM
Oh, my heart is sad that we’re having these discussions and I can;t shoehorn Snoop in. I was telling Ballz the other day. I forgot how much Snoop I care for. I may like Snoop more than any other artists. Not saying he’s the best, but I think deep down, he’s my fave.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:37 PM
Started*
Pearl Jam was #93. List tainted
/favorite band. I’m biased
January 20th, 2012 at 8:37 PM
Even though I’m from the Detroit area. I was never a big Eminem fan early on. It was only later that I truly started to appreciate his talent and ability.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:38 PM
OT
Lakers only scored 10 points in the first quarter
/OT
January 20th, 2012 at 8:39 PM
Dude remember Silver Chair? I just heard that song Tomorrow on Pandora. That song’s awesome.
/faaaaat boy
January 20th, 2012 at 8:39 PM
I think I remember hearing a story of a young, unknown Kane murdering Melle Mel in a battle one night.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:39 PM
But you have to be judged at your worst as well. And Jay-Z at his worst isn’t nearly as bad as Em at his.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:40 PM
Speaking of great albums at a young age.. Silverchair made Frogstomp when they were 16. Amazing
January 20th, 2012 at 8:40 PM
waiting for my ship to come in…………..Lillian
//Eddie Murphy
January 20th, 2012 at 8:41 PM
But I remember hearing a story that Melle Mel invented the cadence that 99% of rappers since have used and expanded on.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:41 PM
Won’t deny this..Relapse was Em at this worst. At least he came back strong on Recovery.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:41 PM
As far as Eminem was concerned, I think I was one of 3 people who realized how good he was when the Slim Shady LP came out. Guilty Conscience and As The World Turns was written by advanced intellectual beings as far as I’m concerned.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:42 PM
good move by Mike Brown playing his starters all the way in a blowout loss the night before
January 20th, 2012 at 8:42 PM
If you guys like soul and r&b, check out Raphael Saadiq’s album Stone Rollin from 2011. Fucking awesome
January 20th, 2012 at 8:42 PM
The singer of Silverchair was married to Natalie Imbruglia, but they divorced. I guess you can say their marriage was torn.
/veal
January 20th, 2012 at 8:44 PM
I made the natalie imbruglia joke last time we had the silverchair discussion a few months ago.
/duckworth’d
//little victories
January 20th, 2012 at 8:44 PM
Anyone think the new Denzel movie will be good?
January 20th, 2012 at 8:45 PM
the cadence thing is what I was giving Rakim credit for in the Mt. Rushmore post.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:45 PM
Listen you don’t call her fat but that girl is stacked.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:45 PM
….but I couldn’t figure out the word I was looking for
January 20th, 2012 at 8:46 PM
See everyone. TBLAD never went anywhere. Still alive and kicking.
/TBL
Hehe.
As whoever mentioned it earlier… Chuck D. You young fellas may only know Flavor Flav for his idiocy, but Public Enemy was the best of all. NWA was great, but their message for black youths furthered the proliferation of gang activity. Erik B. and Rakim. Legends. Boogie Down Productions with KRS-One shouldn’t be ignored.
/I grew up in Western Kansas
//Run-DMC
///Geto Boys
January 20th, 2012 at 8:48 PM
Another Bad Creation
/drops mic
//walks out to eat pizza and drink beer
January 20th, 2012 at 8:48 PM
I remember when he previewed it on XM Heart & Soul
January 20th, 2012 at 8:48 PM
I’ll be here all night if we start venturing into the slow stuff.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:49 PM
Thank you. Fuck the west coast rap movement.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:49 PM
Jersey, take your lady and slow jam to some LSG
January 20th, 2012 at 8:50 PM
Look, I know what you guys are saying about those old fogies Public Enemy and all, but I was told at a very young each… and I quote “Don’t believe the hype”. But for real though, We did them a disservice. It Takes a Nation… is some RAW shit.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:51 PM
I was about to copy and paste the first verse of Still (too lazy to type it out). But what the fuck is up with lyric sites not allowing you to do that? FUCKING GOVERNMENT.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:51 PM
Or some Rome
January 20th, 2012 at 8:51 PM
Wow, can’t believe I forgot them.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:51 PM
Sade and Diana Mother Fuckin Krall.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:51 PM
Yeah, we’re getting 5 inches of snow right now so I’m staying in on a friday for the first time since I tried quitting smoking (which was forever). I forgot how much better it can be around here at night.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:53 PM
By themselves, they would have been fine. But when every label had to have an NWA, and when media would use these poser “keep it real groups” as voices of the hood, it changed the game. It went from Black conscienseness to gangster rap right after the LA Riots.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:54 PM
I also enjoy the modern take on 60s music by Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings, Fitz and the Tantrums, Duffy, etc..
January 20th, 2012 at 8:55 PM
It’s a cold, snow filled slutty mess out in Michigan. I don’t feel like dying tonight.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:56 PM
By themselves, they would have been fine. But when every label had to have an NWA, and when media would use these poser “keep it real groups” as voices of the hood, it changed the game.
Yep. That’s also how we got Candlebox and Creed after Pearl Jam moved records.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:01 PM
Hey there fella, I like Far Behind.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:01 PM
nothing like music to stir up the commenters on a Friday night.
jolly good show.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:01 PM
Watching the Sixers kill the Hawks, drinking Victory, waiting for the wife to get back from her parents (her mom just got home from rehab center after she broke a bone below her knee on Thanksgiving) so that we can go to dinner.
Busts out the Bryan Adams…
January 20th, 2012 at 9:02 PM
That’s a risk we were all willing to take. Tell me another singer who looks like he is having a seizure and becomes a legend?
Long live Eddie.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:04 PM
Thankfully SG isn’t here. She’d say most of the music sucks and other bitchy things
January 20th, 2012 at 9:04 PM
There are a lot of people in Lansing who apparently have no idea how to drive in snow; either that or else they forgot that their cars don’t have ABS brakes.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:05 PM
Sixers just ran the Hawks out of the arena in the 2nd half…
/best team in the Atlantic
//yet no recognition in Ballin
January 20th, 2012 at 9:06 PM
/grabs stick
//nears hornet’s nest
I do not really care for Springsteen
///flees
January 20th, 2012 at 9:07 PM
The fuck? 20 years of albums, re-working their sound, putting on some of the best shows you’ll ever see live, and there were 93 better bands?
And for the rap discussion, I’ve got nothing to add other than Aquemini is my #1. Hard to beat old school Outkast.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:07 PM
Sixers are fun to watch especially when the celtics are not watchable
January 20th, 2012 at 9:09 PM
I remember Green Day being higher. Woof.
/I blame Backspacer
January 20th, 2012 at 9:10 PM
Your top 3 PJ tunes?
Why Go, Indifference, Alone
January 20th, 2012 at 9:10 PM
I prefer talking about rock. So I can jam out to bands listed. I’ll reach the point in the next hour or so when I’m too drunk to play guitar for a damn.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:11 PM
Backspacer sucks, but is anyone honestly going to tell me Green Day was a better band than Pearl Jam? Billie Joe couldn’t hold Eddie’s jock.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:11 PM
That’s a risk we were all willing to take. Tell me another singer who looks like he is having a seizure and becomes a legend? Mantis
That song is one of their best. Great performance. Thanks for the link. I hadn’t seen that in years.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:12 PM
Celtics have to be more watchable than the last minute Tony Douglas has just played.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:12 PM
Rearviewmirror, Alive, Immortality
January 20th, 2012 at 9:13 PM
Vlad –
What’s your thought on the genre?
I’m of the ilk that I’m glad I became a fan of rock before it died. Our rock that we grew up on (Pearl Jam, Nirvana, STP, AIC, Soundgarden, Rage, etc.) at least has longevity. Just like the 60′s and 70′s did. The shit music that’s out there today is seriously fucking terrible. Kids today are going to be ashamed of the music they listened to growing up.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:14 PM
Green Day sucks dick.
That’s really difficult.
I’ll say Immortality, Alive, Yellow Ledbetter. A top 10 would be much easier.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:15 PM
Oh my, you need to give me 3 weeks to answer that one. But my #1 song is State of Love and Trust. I love that 2 of your top 3 is Alone and Indifference which are both underrated. I’ve been listening to this song a lot lately.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:15 PM
If RS named Pearl Jam #93 of bands all time, then I’m guessing they had McCready’s solo somewhere around #384 of the top 500?
January 20th, 2012 at 9:17 PM
I might seriously shoot somebody watching this Knicks game.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:18 PM
Why Go
Indifference
Alone
Deep
Animal
Army Reserve
Rats
Once
Immortality
Red Mosquito
January 20th, 2012 at 9:18 PM
Pastor. Of course there is music out there today that is good but the mainstream stuff is watered down, no doubt.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:18 PM
State of Love and Trust, Breath, Alive.
/this will change tomorrow
January 20th, 2012 at 9:19 PM
Pastor
Gotta agree with your sentiments. But there is plenty of good music out there but it’s just not mainstream really. Honestly I don’t really know though since I don’t listen to FM radio or MTV. Still plenty of great music out there currently.
McCready is great. Love his solo work and ingenuity etc. A couple of his solo’s are pretty much Robbie Krieger rip offs.
/senseless spencer like fact
January 20th, 2012 at 9:19 PM
The sad part about the Time Warner – MSG battle is not being able to see the Knicks implode
January 20th, 2012 at 9:22 PM
I am higher on british rock bands than american rock bands as a whole at this current point in time.
And then we have Canada’s best band and underappreciated national treasure – Rush..who is still not in the rock and roll hall of fame. Travesty
January 20th, 2012 at 9:22 PM
Knicks imploding?
/lights sparklers
//pisses on the Garden
///have pissed on it
January 20th, 2012 at 9:23 PM
Vlad/TJ –
Honestly, what is good these days? I’m with you guys that I don’t listen to FM or MTV (satellite for me), but there doesn’t seem to be anything with staying power anymore.
I picked up the Foster the People album, which is pretty good, but that’s probably the first album I’ve bought in years.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:24 PM
Amen. Palladia had their show from Cleveland last year a few weeks ago. Good set, but man did Geddy’s voice sound shot.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:25 PM
Speaking of Pearl Jam and Soundgarden… Matt Cameron needs to be listed with the greatest rock drummers of all time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_UM9tmc5rU
And then we have Canada’s best band and underappreciated national treasure – Rush..who is still not in the rock and roll hall of fame Trader
eh, don’t worry about that. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is just Jann Wenner’s vanity project. Rush never bowed to him so they don’t get in. Big fucking deal. Speaking of greatest rock drummers…
January 20th, 2012 at 9:27 PM
Neal Peart IS the best rock drummer ever. He surpassed Bonham and Moon a long time ago, IMO.
Pastor – what are some bands that you like? I can make recommendations off your preferences
January 20th, 2012 at 9:28 PM
Black Keys are excellent. Much of the other music I like is heavily guitar orientated or bands that have been around a long time. That Rush concert from Palladia is on my DVR. Only watched a couple minutes of it.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:29 PM
Beyond The Lighted Stage is a fantastic Rush documentary. I saw that on Palladia last year
January 20th, 2012 at 9:29 PM
Honestly, what is good these days? I’m with you guys that I don’t listen to FM or MTV (satellite for me), but there doesn’t seem to be anything with staying power anymore. Pastor
It is a different time now. Drive-By Truckers have been going for 20 years now and have never received radio play yet have won a Grammy or two (with Booker T.) Tool is touring this year and won’t get any radio play with new music. Monster Magnet is huge in Europe. It is just different now. Radio is dead for original music.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:31 PM
Monster Magnet is still around?
Wow
January 20th, 2012 at 9:31 PM
Both Pearl Jam and Soundgarden are coming out with a new album in the next year. Interesting what’s going to happen if both bands want to go on a large tour since he is the drummer for both.
/he looks too much like colin cowherd
//minus the long nose
January 20th, 2012 at 9:31 PM
The local rock stations in Philly are huge players of Tool (93.3 WMMR & 104.5)
The 3-7 guy in Philly is a huge Tool fan and plays lots of him. They will get play time.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:33 PM
I do have one of the Black Keys discs. Good stuff. I like some of Silversun Pickups’ stuff, but that’s hit or miss for me. Same with Kings of Leon.
All the newer music I’ve come across that I actually like is more acoustic/mellow. Ray Lamontagne, JJ Grey & Mofro, The Beautiful Girls…stuff like that.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:33 PM
MALKIN ON A BITCH
January 20th, 2012 at 9:35 PM
(The now defunct) WBCN 104.1 was a huge supporter of Tool here in Boston. They’re playing the Garden next Saturday night.
Probably the best show I’ve ever seen. Saw them in Manchester (NH, not England) in ’04, and it was incredible.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:36 PM
Silversun Pickups/Kings of Leon. A big meh. Some songs are alright. Opeth, Porcupine Tree are really good.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:37 PM
The local rock stations in Philly are huge players of Tool (93.3 WMMR & 104.5)
The 3-7 guy in Philly is a huge Tool fan and plays lots of him. They will get play time.
Philly
Noted. The alternative and rock stations here will rarely play their old stuff and completely ignored 10,000 days. Tool only comes out with an album about once a decade so that might have something to do it with it. Playing Tool after Five Finger Death Punch or Seether might scare the rednecks around here.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:37 PM
As a monster fan of rock from 1990-1997, I’ve never liked Tool. Name another popular band from that era, and I would have probably liked them. It’s not you, it’s me Tool.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:39 PM
I like alot of the indie folk influenced stuff such as Fleet Foxes, Great Lake Swimmers, etc.. Bands i listen to a lot overall: The National, Muse, Elbow, White Lies, Doves, Editors, The Dears, The Sheepdogs, Thrice, Sharon Van Etten, of Montreal, Manchester Orchestra, and Josh Ritter. I am not a hispter, contrary to the list i just provided. I have way too much music that i can’t keep up with. One of the best things is to find good new music in every genre (aside from death metal which blows)
January 20th, 2012 at 9:40 PM
Blind Melon is one of my favorites. I’ve mentioned them plenty in the past on this site.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:41 PM
Thrice, Of Montreal and Muse are legit. Josh Ritter rings a bell but I’m too lazy to look it up.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:41 PM
You’re a Limp Bizkit fan, aren’t you?
/did it all for the nookie
January 20th, 2012 at 9:42 PM
Pastor – Ray LaMontagne is really good. Glad you like his music
January 20th, 2012 at 9:42 PM
Tones of Home FTW. Love that song.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:43 PM
I celebrate their entire catalog.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:43 PM
JJ Grey & Mofro
Mofro used to be one of the “house bands” at Wakarusa. Many a good time. I remember getting to Waka the first time and seeing them on the main stage on Friday afternoon. We all ate some mushrooms and sat on the grass. All the hippies were doing the hippie thing and I just sat there thinking, “No, this isn’t hippie music. Just sit here and enjoy all of it. And to quit laughing at the hippies dancing to the white boy singing southern soul/funk music.” I was conflicted. Had a fantastic time. God, I loved the small hippie music festivals back in the day. I was just some dude on vacation. This was just part of the crowd’s summer. fun times.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:43 PM
Josh Ritter is really good if you’re into the modern version of folk rock. He’s been around for a few years. I just got into his music last year.
Muse is fantastic, unless you’re a certain female commenter from Chicago with questionable taste
January 20th, 2012 at 9:43 PM
He’s a Maine boy…gotta love that. In all honesty, I absolutely love his voice. He pulls off that weathered, raspy sound better than anyone.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:45 PM
I think I saw Mofro at Bonnaroo a long time ago.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:46 PM
I will defend Limp Bizkit’s first CD till the day I turn 30, except the song Faith. It was by the time TRL become a monster hit when the whole band become ghey.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:46 PM
KC – I got turned on to them at the Mexican place I always go to around here. One of the bartenders was a huge jam-band guy (followed Phish around 15+ shows a year), and he’d have Mofro playing whenever he was behind the bar. I have Country Ghetto and Georgia Warhorse, and both of those are albums I’ll listen to front to back. Makes me want to sit on a rocking chair on my porch with a big ol’ drink.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:47 PM
Also recommend the Avett Brothers, Ted Leo and the Pharmacists (for fans of Elvis Costello).
January 20th, 2012 at 9:48 PM
I’ll defend Significant Other. When did that come out, ’99? I was a junior in college. If you don’t think “Break Stuff” was on my playlist when I went to the gym, you are sorely mistaken. And if you tell me you didn’t like “N2gether Now”, you are lying.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:49 PM
Limp Bizkit – always terrible.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:50 PM
Avett Brothers and Zach Brown Band are pretty good.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:50 PM
I was 12 when Limp Bizkit was big, sue me.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:51 PM
The guys in the Avett Brothers used to be in a hard rock band so they bring that intensity to their new music which is a mix of folk, rock, and a bit of bluegrass. Their live performances are really good.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:53 PM
Damm i missed a rapper convo? Gimme C Wallace over Pac, Jay over Ye, and big ups to whoever said Outkast needs a new album, like, yesterday.
Cant believe im sayingthis, but the 3 stacks verse on that Kesha song is filthy.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:54 PM
Oh and if you’re wondering – bands like White Lies and Editors are what you get if The Killers were from England and were Ten times better
January 20th, 2012 at 9:55 PM
The Killers blow.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:56 PM
Vlad, my point exactly
January 20th, 2012 at 9:56 PM
Also, nothing Em released was as strong top to bottom as The Blueprint. That was a genre changing album, probably the best rap album since 2000. MM was real real close though.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:57 PM
“Keep Hope Alive” by Crystal Method just came on my iTunes. Vegas was definitely one of my favorite discs in college. Whatever happened to those guys?
January 20th, 2012 at 9:57 PM
That first Killers album was amazing. Lets not shit on them entirely because they never reached those heights again.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:58 PM
I have an mp3 of Eminem doing a demo with Fred Durst. All to the music of “Turn Me Loose” by Loverboy. Pretty sure it never saw the light of day.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Queefer, i loved Hot Fuss when it first came out. Everything after that soured me on the killers. Also- brandon flowers is a terrible singer in a live setting. Amazing how much editing was needed to make him sound in tune on the recordings.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:02 PM
TJ — ive heard that criticism leveled at Flowers before. Never saw them live but the BD from Royal Albert didnt impress me much. Producers must have been working overtime on Hot Fuss then.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:04 PM
Ok. Slow down, Gossip Girl.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:06 PM
I’ve never been to a concert but i have watched some concert recordings and live tv performances. Just rough. It’s the same thing for Taylor Swift. She is not a good singer outside of a recording studio.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:07 PM
Changing to great singers and frontmen….
/turns on Queen Live at Wembley Stadium
//pours one out for the late great Freddie Mercury
January 20th, 2012 at 10:09 PM
Ahh, taylor swift. Bringing it all the way back to the morning convo. Nice.
She was awful on the grammys. Not like her fans give a shit. Teenagers these days dont even care if these people have talent. Shit, they practically assume they dont.
/get off my lawn
January 20th, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Great singers? Took the wifey to see Adele in DC last May. The pipes on that chick are a once in a generation gift. 1000 people in that club and she sounded like ahe was in the studio. Just incredible.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:12 PM
have Mofro playing whenever he was behind the bar. I have Country Ghetto and Georgia Warhorse, and both of those are albums I’ll listen to front to back. Makes me want to sit on a rocking chair on my porch with a big ol’ drink.
Yes. Mofro is perfect late Spring/Summer music. Sitting on the back stoop smoking and drinking and reading or bullshitting with friends doing nothing. I’m still not sure about JJ dropping his entire band over time and becoming JJ Grey and Mofro, but those early-mid 2000 years were big fun.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Adele is awesome. Hope her voice heals soon so she can get back out on tour.
NBA note: the Bulls beat the Cavs by 39 and Rose didn’t play. Damn
January 20th, 2012 at 10:15 PM
Avett Brothers and Zach Brown Band are pretty good.
Saw Avett brothers in October. They definitely have talent, but they play their music kind of out of control; too much screaming in their music, which makes it hard to hear lyrics.
“Heart like a kickdrum” is a good song though.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:17 PM
Ms, a couple of the songs are meant to be that way but i can agree that it is a bit much. Overall, they are solid. Their set on Austin City Limits was super
January 20th, 2012 at 10:21 PM
Your top 10 PJ tunes?
Why Go, Indifference, Alone
No order: Release, Do the Evolution, Yellow Ledbetter, Nothingman, The Fixer, Come Back, I Got Id, I Am Mine, Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town, Black
It’ll change next week I’m sure.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:21 PM
I know they are meant to be that way TJ, I just dont care for it.
Will Hoge is one of the best live shows i’vd ever seen. The guy can rock and leaves everything he’s got out on the stage every single night.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:22 PM
Changing to great singers and frontmen….
If you’re talking rock, you gotta include Robert Plant as the archetype.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:24 PM
SRORD, Plant was the first real great one but i think Mercury was the best frontman ever when it comes to the entire package – singing, performing, stage presence, being dynamic, etc.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:24 PM
I’ve never admitted that that was on my iPod to anyone, but since you did…yeah. He does pick the most random songs to get on
January 20th, 2012 at 10:24 PM
For soul/R&B, check out Marvin Gaye. If you haven’t, listen to the “What’s Goin’ On” album in its’ entirety. Deep stuff, and released 40 years ago!
January 20th, 2012 at 10:25 PM
Hey Lakers and Magic, hurry up and end this terrible game. I want to watch the Timberwolves and Clippers.
/pinches to see if this is reality
January 20th, 2012 at 10:26 PM
Tell ya what, TJ, Mercury owned the stage. There was a guy who can never be replaced or replicated.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:27 PM
SRORD, early marvin gaye is the best stuff. He and TT were a fantastic duet again and again. Also Sam Cooke, Al Green, and Otis Redding.
The best
January 20th, 2012 at 10:27 PM
Plant, Mercury, Tyler, Rodgers, Perry, Cornell, Dio, Cocker, Jagger, Rose, Daltrey etc.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:28 PM
It never happened.
/I’m still not over that terrible CD
January 20th, 2012 at 10:31 PM
Speaking of front men, that new Van Halen song “Tattoo” is awful.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:34 PM
SRORD, Plant was the first real great one but i think Mercury was the best frontman ever when it comes to the entire package – singing, performing, stage presence, being dynamic, etc.
Different types of singers. Plant came from the English rhythm and blues/rock mold that was so popular there from the 1950s and 60s. Those singers sought to ooze sexuality and spirit through the way they sang.
Freddie Mercury had less of the blues-rock influence mainly because he didn’t grew up around it. He grew up doing more traditional type singing in Zanzibar and India before his family emigrated to England. He was not about passively oozing sensuality, he was more about an active relationship/connection with the audience. He fed off the audience’s energy and they off of his. Mercury was a more aggressive vocalist. He had charisma for days.
Plant at Earl’s Court in 1975 and Mercury at Live Aid in 1985 are about as good rock vocalist performances as you can find.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:38 PM
TJ, you know your R&B, for sure. I love Cooke’s stuff. And, I was a huge Al Green fan in the 70s.
When I listen to Redding’s stuff, it’s amazingly self-assured. He was so young when he died, but his work sounded like a guy who’d been through some hard living.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:38 PM
I can agree with everything you said there, ms621
January 20th, 2012 at 10:39 PM
MS
Question. Does your knowledge come just off hand or do you research before you comment. I find you to be one of the most intelligent and knowledgeable commenters on this site. I don’t really agree with your opinions that often but do appreciate your wisdom and intellect.
/no homo
January 20th, 2012 at 10:41 PM
SRORD, I’m 29 going on 50 with my music tastes. Love the older stuff and have learned a lot more by listening to Tony Kornheiser’s radio show. He always has great old pop, soul, and rock from the 60s for his bumper music coming back from commercial.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:46 PM
Vlad, I appreciate your kind words (no homo). When I’m commenting, it’s straight from my noggin. That’s not to say that I don’t google something to make sure I’m remembering it correctly, because I do that often. When something interests me, I read and learn whatever I can about it because I find it enjoyable. I’ve been blessed with pretty good recall of facts and previously acquired knowledge. I also don’t mind admitting when I’m wrong (usually) and I find that when you can admit that you don’t know something, you’re more likely to learn something new.
I don’t often agree with your opinions either Vlad, but I do enjoy your comments, even if they are about hockey and I don’t have a clue who any of the people you mention are.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:48 PM
Good on ya, TJ. As stated here before, there are great artists out there, but radio and other media make it so hard to wade thru some “lowest common denominator” stuff.
For me, I’ll be 52 this summer, and have enjoyed a wide range of stuff for a long time. But, most of my fave artists are either dead or past their prime (Spinners, original Temptations, Gladys Knight, Marvin Gaye, Delfonics). Thank God for Sirius XM.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:48 PM
MS
Question. Does your knowledge come just off hand or do you research before you comment. I find you to be one of the most intelligent and knowledgeable commenters on this site. I don’t really agree with your opinions that often but do appreciate your wisdom and intellect.
/no homo
A teabag is impending. Who will it be?
January 20th, 2012 at 10:49 PM
January 20th, 2012 at 10:49 PM
Shit – messed up the quote
January 20th, 2012 at 10:50 PM
A teabag is impending. Who will it be?
Take a few shots and we can find out real fast.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:51 PM
Shit, wish I still had that kinda recall ability still. Be thankful you got it dude. Like really thankful. I used to be able to read and absorb information and rely it like nobody’s business. Booze and Drugs and a wicked bitch.
Fuck it, Boston rocks!
/the band
January 20th, 2012 at 10:51 PM
SRORD,
I recommend Marc Broussard. He made an album a few years ago called S.O.S (Save Our Soul). It’s mostly covers of Gaye, Green, and others. He’s a young white guy from Louisiana but he has a voice that would have fit perfectly next to the soul legends in their heyday
January 20th, 2012 at 10:53 PM
OT: too bad there is no Clippers-T-Wolves thread here. Promises to be an entertaining game.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:53 PM
A teabag is impending. Who will it be?
Take a few shots and we can find out real fast.
Young Jason is in bed now. We are all free and clear.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:53 PM
Roeth, yeah i know of him. He’s a singer in a christian band from Canada.
Vlad, Boston’s first album was great. One of the best debut albums I can remember. Sadly, it was downhill after that
January 20th, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Vlad, I also admit to talking out of my ass on occasion (I’d say most guys do at some point when talking about sports). I don’t have a photographic memory. If you asked me what I learned in high school chemistry, I couldn’t tell you a damn thing.
/I think I got a C in that class
//I was thrilled to get that C
January 20th, 2012 at 10:55 PM
OT: too bad there is no Clippers-T-Wolves thread here. Promises to be an entertaining game.
This thread is your oyster SROD. Go for it.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:55 PM
I really didn’t think they’re be this many people commenting tonight. I’ve been watching the Pens game/UFC by my lonesome (not really – wife is home watching some stuff on DVR and baby is sleeping) when I could have been commenting on rap.
/really likes the new Mac Miller stuff
January 20th, 2012 at 10:55 PM
I remember enough stuff to kick ass on jeopardy but i can’t remember a lot of things from my childhood
January 20th, 2012 at 10:55 PM
stinks like sex in here.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:56 PM
stinks like sex in here.
You know it’s not me then.
/65 days
January 20th, 2012 at 10:56 PM
I figure wintertime is when TBLAD should be the busiest with many of us being in shitty weather areas where it isn’t useful going out at night when it is ten degrees
January 20th, 2012 at 10:59 PM
Milicic just rejected Griffin nicely
January 20th, 2012 at 11:00 PM
Haha..Blake Griffin just got stuffed by Darko
January 20th, 2012 at 11:00 PM
Just saw a great OT high school game. Louisville recruit Mike Rozier is overrated.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:01 PM
Dear gina carano, topless pics please
January 20th, 2012 at 11:02 PM
My HS game tonight was canceled thank God. Didn’t feel like driving an hour in this winter storm (which really hasn’t hit too bad yet) to ref a semi-blowout. Plus the one coach is a complete asshole.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:03 PM
This. But I’m pretty sure we would be disappointed. Unless they were photoshopped which they most likely would.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:05 PM
Vlad, i think they’d be okay*
*compared to Snooki
January 20th, 2012 at 11:05 PM
Wolves have a ton of potential. Rubio with two fouls early sucks. If the Wolves had a DeAndre Jordan-type center, they could compete for an 8 seed this year or next. I really like the direction they are heading.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:05 PM
Though i am team tall athletic woman so i’m game
January 20th, 2012 at 11:06 PM
forgot about that. hope you’re drunk.
speaking of drunk. a buddy told me earlier they have some pappy van winkle at sam’s liquor store for $85. he didn’t say what year, sounds suspicious though. I’m checking it out tomorrow.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:06 PM
Alive, Elderly Woman, In Hiding, Given To Fly, Cordoroy, Love Boat Captain, In My Tree, I Got Id, Oceans, Inside Job, Release
January 20th, 2012 at 11:08 PM
I hope westmoreland county liquidates you. That’s the Flyers jam after every win. Come on now.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:08 PM
When I listen to Redding’s stuff, it’s amazingly self-assured.
There’s an insane 4-disc box set out there. In the days before file sharing and what not I had that from the library system, and kept it for an extra month and gladly paid all the dues. To me, his passion for each song live is almost peerless.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:10 PM
scripty, hell yeah.
OT, again: Mo Williams shooting with a ton of confidence tonight.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:11 PM
speaking of drunk. a buddy told me earlier they have some pappy van winkle at sam’s liquor store for $85. he didn’t say what year, sounds suspicious though. I’m checking it out tomorrow.
Not drunk. Only on scotch number 2. My lady has the flu, so I’m trying to be attentive to her.
Bourbon doesn’t have an age statement as often as scotch does, but if it’s Pappy and it’s $85 I would definitely ask for some background from the people at the liquor store. If they are worth their salt, they should be able to speak about it intelligently.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:12 PM
AWESOME
January 20th, 2012 at 11:12 PM
oh, yeah. One more thing about Otis – his backing band, the original Bar-Kays, were for the most part right out of high school. Young cats with a serious grasp of rhythm.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:12 PM
That song is off the previous album, not the new one.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:12 PM
Watching original Iron Chef right now. I love this show.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:14 PM
Does that “owner” of the iron chef stadium still bite into the green pepper and then grin like a maniac into the camera in the Iron Chef intro?
January 20th, 2012 at 11:16 PM
I think they are all repeats, scripty, so yes
January 20th, 2012 at 11:17 PM
Bar none, Otis Redding is my favorite musician of all time. Sam Cooke is a distant 2nd.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:17 PM
Scripty, the Japanese one had pretty much the same intro, including with the guy (who played Jesus in the Japanese production of “Jesus Christ Superstar”) biting straight into the bell pepper.
I wish they were still producing the original Iron Chef. The english translation cracks me up.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:18 PM
pretty sure pappy does, at least the bottle I have does. it’s 12 year and it was $50, so if it’s $85 it must be 15 year? I have no clue. just seems weird at sam’s. and redneck. then again, living it up in Arkansas I guess.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:19 PM
It was a yellow pepper.
/But like TJ said, they’re all reruns.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:19 PM
True story. I was once pulled over by a woman cop and sweet talked her into dinner in exchange for tearing up the speeding ticket. All I say is it was fun.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:20 PM
pretty sure pappy does, at least the bottle I have does. it’s 12 year and it was $50, so if it’s $85 it must be 15 year? I have no clue. just seems weird at sam’s. and redneck. then again, living it up in Arkansas I guess.
You’re right, I meant to mention that Pappy often does have an age statement, especially the expensive stuff. Got distracted while I was typing and left that part out.
I just drank some Dewar’s 12 chilled with whiskey rocks straight out of the freezer. Great investment.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:20 PM
We would laugh into tears during the intro every time once that guy chomped into the Bell Pepper. They were always taking on the French Iron Chef, and the Chinese one next. Going to bow out for now, going to get my Kool Moe Dee “Knowledge is King” tape out hiding.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:24 PM
Sakai (French) was always the best. I liked him the most, then Michiba, Kenichi, and the Italian cuisine Masahiko Kobe in the later ones…
January 20th, 2012 at 11:26 PM
I see chief set a google alert for “chef talk”!
Regarding Iron Chef America, i can’t stand that floor reporter Kevin Brauch. Go away!
January 20th, 2012 at 11:26 PM
Sakai was my favorite as well followed by Kenichi. Kenichi cracked me up because at the end of every round when the on floor interviewer asked him how he did, he would always say “Well you know, it was a tough round and I’m not used to this secret ingredient. I’m not sure. I feel good about my dishes but I’m not sure how it will come out. But I think I’m going to win.”
Without fail, every single time.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:26 PM
“All I say…”??? Story or GTFO.
/gets popcorn
//pulls up chair
January 20th, 2012 at 11:27 PM
Can’t stand Iron Chef America. And it’s not because of Alton Brown, who I actually like on Good Eats, it’s just that it doesn’t have the same serious attitude that the Japanese one had, which made it so intriguing and enjoyable.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:28 PM
He started out extremely rough. I wasn’t sure he’d even last the first season on Food Network. He’s improved immensely, though. I like him now.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:30 PM
name association with Dewars doesn’t do it any favors. what year is the cheap stuff at the store? because it is nasty.
my gf’s brother got me some whiskey rocks for christmas, enjoying a pappy and soda right now. love those things.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:34 PM
name association with Dewars doesn’t do it any favors. what year is the cheap stuff at the store? because it is nasty.
If you’re going to badmouth Dewar’s, then I’m not sure we can be friends. I won’t call it the best blend (as mass market blends go Chivas Regal is superior in almost every way), but I find it very enjoyable. I actually prefer it to Famous Grouse.
I’m drinking Ballantine’s on the rocks now.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:38 PM
The white label Dewar’s (the cheap stuff as you put it) doesn’t have an age statement. That means the youngest malt in it is at least 3 years old because by law malt has to be aged that long to be considered ‘scotch’.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:40 PM
But any blend is going to have 20, 30, 50 or sometimes even more malts and grains in it (there’s typically only three or four grains with the rest being malts), so the age of each addition may be different. Though of course in a cheaper blend you would expect most of the malts/grains to be relatively young.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:03 AM
Where did everyone go?
January 21st, 2012 at 12:04 AM
Fuck if I know. I’m still here. It’s only 11pm CST.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:04 AM
Rubio is making me go into the drinks and not want me to type anymore.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:06 AM
I’m in. Still watching the Clippers game. Wassup?
January 21st, 2012 at 12:10 AM
Iron chef is over. I’m watching something about asteroids on Science Channel now. May go into the DVR to watch some Archer.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:10 AM
Been up since 5 am. Tapping out for the night. Clippers should win this
January 21st, 2012 at 12:10 AM
Just listening to Guns n Roses. An underrated band as far as I’m concerned.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:12 AM
Liked the early GnR stuff. After hearing the Metallica version of the Montreal concert debacle, I wonder about Axl.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:13 AM
Hello, gentlemen. This weather fucking sucks.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:14 AM
sorry to hear that, dtw. How bad is it forecast to be on Sat?
January 21st, 2012 at 12:14 AM
How do you figure GNR is underrated. They have one of the best debut albums of all time, and peaked with both Use your Illusions. They got way too cute with their music after that. I feel that they are properly appreciated, at least amongst people in their mid 20s and older. College kids today probably don’t know much beyond “Welcome to the Jungle” though, which is a shame.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:17 AM
Better in the Chicagoland; however, my Saturday forecast is grim seeing as I have tickets to the Bulls and Rose likely isn’t playing.
/just my luck
January 21st, 2012 at 12:17 AM
I just wanted to say that to stir the drink. It worked.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:17 AM
Possibly the worst night for Rubio in the NBA, but Wolves are just down 2 now.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:20 AM
Spring is coming, dtw. Keep hanging in a bit longer.
Sorry about Rose. His missing the game Monday enabled my Grizzlies to actually beat the Bulls.
Rubio’s last jumper from the wing looked broken. He is scuffling, but Johnson is playing well, along with Ridenour.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:20 AM
Sure he hasn’t scored a point, but he has 3 assists and 3 rebounds!!!
-JMac
January 21st, 2012 at 12:28 AM
Sloppy exchange just now. Mlicic with a sloppy interior pass. Funky lob to Griffin also. Young teams running wild at this point.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:29 AM
I don’t know where you live DTW, but it’s been a late winter so far in the burgh. Hell, last year (2010) I was done roofing at the 2nd week of November, and it was below freezing the whole time until spring.
Pittsburgh got lucky in December this year with participation, or me and dad would have a bad year. Roofers follow the weather better than meteorologist
January 21st, 2012 at 12:29 AM
When will Rubio drive to the rim? If the jumper ain’t working (and it ain’t), ya gotta change it up.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:31 AM
Taking Rubio out would be the much better option here.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:33 AM
Is Barea out tonight? Oops, Hubie just answered (hamstring).
January 21st, 2012 at 12:34 AM
I get the impression Griffin is trying to prove tonight he has effective post moves (WRT Barkley’s comments to the contrary last night).
January 21st, 2012 at 12:36 AM
Mantis, I should not be complaining at all. We had weather in the 50s a few weeks ago in Chicago. I just worry that we’ll have snow in May since winter came so late.
I’ll never forget a few years ago walking to class in late April and seeing snow mounds. Fuck that.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:39 AM
Stats aside, Blake is not a complete player yet, but he is going to be GREAT. Charles was just pointing out his flaws for someone who is only 23. He is not being a hater.
Shaq’s analysis would be “mumble mumble mumble mumble, you see this dance I did.”
January 21st, 2012 at 12:42 AM
It’s been fairly easy going this winter in STL. only a couple days of snow, minimal at best. We’ve had only a week’s worth of bonechilling days and night. Today being one of them.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:43 AM
My first two years in college, I went to PSU’s branch campus in Erie. (because I wasn’t smart enough). It snowed more than 3 inches 41 days in a row. I had a 8-9 AM class everyday and got up 1 1/2 hours before it just to clean my car to drive. It builds character. I laugh at 3 inches of snow now.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:43 AM
Mantis, yeah I saw the exchange on TNT last night also. Barkley was reasonable with his points. Griffin is a beast, but some of his moves down low aren’t as fluid as they will be in a year or so.
OBTW, he helps you win and puts butts in the seats. Good enough for me.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:44 AM
75 degrees in Dallas today. We’ve had a bullshit winter so far.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:45 AM
In the Spgs, we’ve had 50s the last few days. Slightly warmer than average, and pretty dry also. We normally get some wet snow Feb or March.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:46 AM
With Gomes, Foye and Mo, the Clippers have a decent bench this year.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:49 AM
I love car and truck commercials – showing me special effects crap that I can’t actually do in real life, and that is supposed to sell me on buying that product.
Barrel rolls, indeed.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:50 AM
A truck pulling off barrel rolls like that is as likely as your Stratotanker pulling off the same maneuver back in the day, eh SROD?
January 21st, 2012 at 12:53 AM
Is Griffin’s shot outside of 10 feet worth a damn at all? I haven’t caught many games, but it seems like he goes 5/14 every night w/ 5 Sportscenter top ten dunks.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:56 AM
ms, I knew a couple of guys back in the day who thought it was possible to roll a C-135. I sure as heck didn’t wanna be on-board when that happened. Me and the aircraft commander would have to have a crash-axe-punctuated discussion if he tried crap like that.
Mo ejected? That stinks. Yeesh.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:58 AM
dtw, I think you are right about Griffin’s jumper. With Paul and/or Foye and Mo in the game, Griffin’s jumper shouldn’t be a big problem.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:59 AM
Roll a KC-135? Ha! I never studied aerodynamics or engineering, but I know that is as likely as an Airbus doing the same thing.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:01 AM
ms, when young pilots talk over beers, you’re liable to hear anything.
As the saying goes, “there are bold pilots and old pilots, but very few bold old pilots”.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:07 AM
I missed it all, but the frontman discussion needs more Wayne Coyne. Flaming Lips shows are extremely entertaining.
Side note: I was at a Local H show (best band of the 90s) one time with my friend Luke and we met Wayne, he said “Luke, like Cool Hand Luke, nice”. Luke was amazed because it was the only person ever who didn’t say like Luke Skywalker.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:07 AM
Ah, that makes sense. But seriously, you mentioning that makes me think about when I was a kid and we used to talk about swinging on a swingset hard enough to go completely around.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:09 AM
when we were kids, “everything” was possible. Wasn’t that cool?
January 21st, 2012 at 1:13 AM
Chauncey is one gay-ass name.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:13 AM
Hubie is tough to listen to…
January 21st, 2012 at 1:14 AM
Wow. Minny had chances to score just then, but couldn’t make it go. Why won’t Mlicic shoot when down low?
January 21st, 2012 at 1:16 AM
Hubie is tough to listen to…
Acquired taste, to be sure. I like him, but I don’t go out of my way to find games he’s working just because he’s working ‘em.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:18 AM
RRRRUUUUBBBBIIIIIOOOOO
January 21st, 2012 at 1:18 AM
Dang. Dude is 0-10, then sticks a late three. “Enter: a legend (?)”
January 21st, 2012 at 1:18 AM
RUBIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
January 21st, 2012 at 1:20 AM
I love that kid’s game. He has a real bounce about him, and he gets teammates the ball in good scoring position.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:23 AM
HOLY SHIT!!!
January 21st, 2012 at 1:24 AM
Boom, daddy!
Too bad Jason didn’t hang here tonight. Great game. Love sticks the game-winner. See ya.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:25 AM
You fellas take care. I’m gonna switch over to Tora Tora Tora on the Military Channel.
Catch you guys down the road. Peace.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:26 AM
<3 Love/Rubio.