except, Shaq ran himself out of town demanding 30 mil a season and never being in shape

Factor in he would be AT LEAST 30 lbs lighter and in better shape, that would add up to a lot of miles…

The Pistons are the most underrated great team in NBA history IMO. What other team do you know in midstream decided to change their style of play as drastically? They were a squad of all offense with Kelly Tripuka, John Long, etc. and decided they needed to D up to win rings. Then they go out and draft players like Rodman, Salley, and Dumars and eventually win rings.

Traded Dantley, too.

If Shaq had Kobe’s work ethic he would have been the greatest Big Man of all time, by a wide margin…

see, i just don’t know about that…that’s a lotta stress for a big man to handle. there’s always the chance if shaq worked more, he’d have been like a 12-year old great dane by the time the three-peat was over.

I’ll agree with this as long as we can also agree that it’s really idiotic to blame Kobe for Shaq leaving LA.

i blame society.

“And, now there’s a steal by Bird! Underneath to DJ who lays it in! Right at one second left! What a play by Bird!”

It’s not as relevant for Magic, given that an avid fan could watch a lot more game tapes of him than someone like Mikan (not saying that commenter did this, but some of us do). I just think asking someone their age to make a point in a basketball argument can be a little cheap

thats fair

Let’s agree they’re both self-consumed dickheads and call it a day.

I’ll agree with this as long as we can also agree that it’s really idiotic to blame Kobe for Shaq leaving LA.

Let’s agree they’re both self-consumed dickheads and call it a day.

Agreed, but I feel the need to correct moronic, gossip-y statements like the one mentioned above. It’s just lame. But it appears that inflammatory statements and often outright lies can double as headlines or post material these days. Sad to see it happening.

Let’s agree they’re both self-consumed dickheads and call it a day.

lets call it metal mursday.

Age is relevant. Someone older may say, I saw “West and Baylor play”. Someone even older may say Mikan.

It’s not as relevant for Magic, given that an avid fan could watch a lot more game tapes of him than someone like Mikan (not saying that commenter did this, but some of us do). I just think asking someone their age to make a point in a basketball argument can be a little cheap.

The Pistons’ style of play should have taken them to 3 straight championships, and did take them to 2.

The Pistons are the most underrated great team in NBA history IMO. What other team do you know in midstream decided to change their style of play as drastically? They were a squad of all offense with Kelly Tripuka, John Long, etc. and decided they needed to D up to win rings. Then they go out and draft players like Rodman, Salley, and Dumars and eventually win rings.

Shaq ran himself out of LA (and every other town he’s ever been in). Blaming Kobe is childish.

Let’s agree they’re both self-consumed dickheads and call it a day.

For as big of a man as he is, he has incredibly thin skin and seems to love throwing people under the bus.

that’s the problem with synocphants…it’s like nobody told him his kazaam schtick is tired as fuck.

For as big of a man as he is, he has incredibly thin skin and seems to love throwing people under the bus.

Does the divorce – with no prenup – have Kobe permanently salty?

He’s on a purposeful mission to show everyone it’s not going to affect his game.

I haven’t liked Kobe Bryant since he ran Shaq out of LA and ruined one of the greatest 1-2 punches the NBA has ever seen.

i used to think this too, but that was before i realized how big of an asshole shaq is. i mean, he’s like legendary when it comes to being an ass.