Virginia Tech’s Long-Snapper, Collin Carroll: Time to Eliminate the Extravagance of Bowl Week
Collin Carroll, the long-snapper on the Virginia Tech football team, penned a surprising but terrific column for ESPN this week, writing that it’s time to eliminate bowl week. So much for all of the players loving the idea of being the toast of the town, right, Bill Hancock?
For the seven days we spend in New Orleans, we received a per diem check totaling $450.71. That equates to $64.39 in daily spending cash, when we already receive roughly two meals and two snacks from the team per day. The Sugar Bowl committee also brought us to a bowling alley, New Orleans’ finest steakhouse and a Mardi Gras float parade that included a visit from the Saints’ cheerleaders. What on Earth could we possibly need all this money for?
Carroll will probably be called a variety of names by opposing players – and even his teammates – for this column, and perhaps he’ll be quietly reprimanded behind the scenes. But it’s a smart column for Carroll, who writes for the Virginia Tech student paper and seems to harbor dreams of a journalistic future. I’d love to see him debate Bill Hancock on this topic. At some point, Hancock would break down and say, “without bowl week, how would the BCS suits justify those half a million salaries?”
My advice: Do away with bowl week. Schools should practice at their respective universities just as they would any other game week, arriving at the bowl destination the night before the game. No coeds on campus, no strip joints, no casinos, no extravagant gifts or cash rewards, and no creepy bull-riders with redhead fetishes. Just film, practice, more film, meals and some more film.
What a novel concept. Football. You mean make the focus the game, and not lining the pockets of the BCS cartel while gauging the schools?
Thank goodness a +1 playoff is coming in 2015. Won’t be much longer after that before the playoff is expanded to 8 or 16 teams.
Previously: 2011 College Football Bowl Game Gifts: Hair-Dryers, Belt Buckles, Pens in Boxes
Previously: College Football Bowl Gifts For 2010
Previously: Economic Experts Ask Department of Justice to Investigate the BCS For Antitrust Violations

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January 3rd, 2012 at 11:11 AM
Umm…did you read this part, TBL? He’s basically saying they don’t need to be paid. The irony of this post is amazing.
/pay the players!!!
//”What on Earth could we possibly need all this money for?”
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:11 AM
Carroll will probably be called a variety of names by opposing players
And rightly so.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:12 AM
This should be fun.
/sets up lawnchair
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:12 AM
This is as good a post as any to mention this:
I’m as much /Team Cold as anybody, but damn it was nice wearing shorts all last week in FL. Tampa on Xmas Day was the warmest city in the country at 84.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:13 AM
Snitches get stitches.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:13 AM
I’d be pissed!!!! We had 103-107 degree temperatures this summer. I love a cold winter.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:13 AM
Sounds like a real fun guy, bet he has a lot of friends.
When he’s 40, bald, fat, and two months behind on his mortgage he’ll probably wish he watched a little less film, took the free cash, and spent a little more time with the coeds.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:13 AM
It was 61 and perfect on New Year’s Eve in Atlanta. Golfing was excellent. Now the cold front came in, though, so winter might actually be here. Boo.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:13 AM
Refreshing to hear a student-athlete show awareness of the extravagant benefits provided to football players as compared to your average college student.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:14 AM
He ain’t no Kurt Cousins.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:14 AM
Good for you.
/Sends St. Bear a middle finger out of sheer jealousy
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:14 AM
This now makes two long-snappers I’ve ever heard of.
The first.
/there would be a link to Lonie Paxton making a snow angel in the Superdome if the NFL didn’t suck
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:15 AM
For the seven days we spend in New Orleans, we received a per diem check totaling $450.71. That equates to $64.39 in daily spending cash,
I could spend that per diem in one night of bar hopping in New Orleans. I dont’t think this kid is much of a drinker.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Nice theory, but this is NEVER going to happen.
What a novel concept. Football. You mean make the focus the game, and not lining the pockets of the BCS cartel while gauging the schools?
a=o
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 AM
projecting coop?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 AM
The fact that TBL is pumping this post on twitter with “Shocking Column” as the headline is rich. He’s arguing against paying the athletes, a cause celebre for TBL and Duffy.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 AM
Wait. Hold on.
I know that “nobody reads the posts” but I didn’t think that applied to the writer of the post too?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 AM
It was funny hanging out with the locals. My uncle in Tampa, and my wife’s cousing who lives in Miami, were in jeans and a light sweater, and we were all in shorts and t-shirts.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 AM
What?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:17 AM
This guy sounds fun, i want him on my Vegas trip.
/You’re a long snapper dude, know your role
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:18 AM
The Cotton Bowl is going to be so much better than the Sugar or Orange Bowls.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Hilarious.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:18 AM
is this kid gonna get a guest post, or be an interview subject?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Are you kidding? At least once a week TBLintyre posts a link that completely undermines the point he is trying to make.
I sort of give him a pass, because he posts so many it’s gotta be hard to keep track of, but on the other hand, if that’s your only friggin job all day…
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:19 AM
So we’re saying that we don’t want the kids to have a bowl week which means that the BCS cartels would still get paid a bunch of money and not have to shower the student athletes with a bowl week…saving the bowl money…which would potentially go to further increases in salaries?
And we have a kid saying the per diem, etc. he already receives from the team is enough…and that jives with what exactly on this site?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:19 AM
“Hey Ginger, want a ride?”
That made me laugh.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:19 AM
They focus on the game for 4 months. Bowl trips are a fun reward for that hard work, as properly noted by Stewie Mandels description of the great time had by Illinois and UCLA in SanFran.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Hes the guy that would cut you off during your bachelor party just because you’re having a good time but no one is complaining about your behavior. Ass-Douche
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Agreed. The next two BCS games are pathetic. 3/4 teams have no business being there.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Other suggestion: Jason McInTibble
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Not 40 yet, full head of hair, trim enough, and my mortgage is now a rental that pays for itself.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 AM
He even QUOTED this dude and still went on a jihad against the BCS but forgot about his other rotting horse called pay the players!
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 AM
#humblebrag
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:22 AM
I was led to believe that one of the advantages of a bowl system over a playoff system is that bowls allow players to maintain their academic focus.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:22 AM
I’ve never heard of anyone (myself when I was in school, athletes, athletic department staff) that has spent their per diem money on meals alone. It is simply viewed as bonus cash.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:22 AM
a reward for playing a game that’ll take 20-years off your life? i can understand a long-snapper not understanding that.
just spin the ball to the holder and shut up.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:22 AM
Not 40 yet, full head of hair, trim enough, and my mortgage is now a rental that pays for itself.
It’s not very nice to charge rent to your wife.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:23 AM
and lets not call the BCS a cartel. They aren’t cutting scrubs heads off with a chainsaw or opening up with automatic weapons in casinos.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:23 AM
I hope this guy get blind sided head over heels on punt coverage tonight.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:24 AM
$64.39 a day is a lot of money if your friendless and unfuckable.
/How about buying some hair dye?
//Places bar of soap in tube sock
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Who knew Scott McGillivray commented on this website?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:24 AM
MY GOD THE SLAVERY
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:24 AM
I sort of just like the simple idea of crowning the best team, rather than a playoff survivor. The pros have playoffs to identify a champion through elimination which may not be the best team (eg the Packers last year). What’s wrong with giving a title to the team that is the best?
Though I’m not really in support of the bowl ‘system’. I’d rather there be like 6 bowls, and one championship game.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:24 AM
and lets not call the BCS a cartel. They aren’t cutting scrubs heads off with a chainsaw or opening up with automatic weapons in casinos.
Or artificially keeping the supply of crude oil down so that the price per barrel stays above $90.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 AM
I can’t get over the fact that this is coming from a goddamn longsnapper. Even the punter should tell him to only speak when spoken to.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Collin Carroll rides in Boba Fett’s spaceship.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Who knew Scott McGillivray commented on this website?
+1 soaker tub in every rental property
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Yup, they are getting a winter break reward as opposed to playing and practicing during Finals Week.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Tiger cub Tuesday!! Yippee!!
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Collin Carroll’s favorite Britney Spears album is 2001′s “Britney.”
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:26 AM
LOL.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Umm…did you read this part, TBL? He’s basically saying they don’t need to be paid. The irony of this post is amazing.
Was thinking the same thing.
The cartel angle is also played out because we have seen that they are all individualistic and competitive with each other instead of a single entity.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Craig James thinks Collin Carroll is living on Real Street.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Collin Carroll spends all day toggling the switches on the back of hard drives.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:26 AM
-1000 unforseen structural issue that will double the cost of the renovation in every episode.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Well I was enjoying his article until he said this, now his credibility is under scrutiny.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 AM
/You’re a long snapper dude, know your role
That sentence reminds me of this angry article penned by Chris Kluwe when he got called insignificant.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 AM
so funny. He didn’t even read the quote he pulled.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 AM
What is Saban’s last resort to rectify his rampant oversigning in time for the season if the trumped up ‘violations’ don’t stick?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 AM
This is the kinda guy who would call his cable company to let them know he was mistakenly getting HBO for free.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Collin Carroll’s favorite Stones album is Tattoo You. Favorite Weezer album, Maladroit.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 AM
-1000 unforseen structural issue that will double the cost of the renovation in every episode.
Well done.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 AM
love the one where it’s just poking his head over the box.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 AM
LOL
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 AM
New Orleans would be so lame this week…..
/The ginger in this post.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 AM
If I were in charge there would be 15 bowl games. It should be a real honor to get a bowl invite, and having the top 30 teams get in would be great. I’d have a plus one and then mandate that the you have to be in the top-12 to be in a BCS game. After that, the bowls can take whomever they want.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Just effing with you.
As a Hokie I can tell you Tech has a history of kids being sent home before the bowl games. I think Colin just is A. tired of working hard and seeing idiot teammates mess it up and B. looking for a refreshing angle that will generate pageviews and possibly launch his journalism career.
/eff Michigan
//did I do this right?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 AM
I only read until the point where he mentioned he was a punter, and I realized his opinion didn’t count anyway.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Collin Carroll’s favorite author is Isaac Bashevis Singer.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 AM
The kid seems like a good writer, but I don’t think this issue is college football’s (or college sports’) biggest problem. Not by a long shot.
No one is making this kid take that check. He can feel free to assuage his conscience by donating the money to a worthy cause.
If he’d like, I could forward my address to him and I would gladly accept all the per diem checks, strippers, etc. that he’d like to forward along.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 AM
lil boi status
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Or artificially keeping the supply of crude oil down so that the price per barrel stays above $90.
I think the naval exercises by Iran in the Strait of Hormuz might have a bit of an effect in the oil prices as well.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 AM
Colin Carroll ‘likes’ his own status updates in Facebook.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 AM
When I received per diem from Auburn, it wasn’t like real world dollars. It was like receiving $1000. I’d eat shitty fast food, save my money, and buy Natty Light kegs with my pooled money.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 AM
$64.39 is not much money to feed 2 kids from 2 different women while fighting a third paternity claim.
/Mcfadden’d
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 AM
I’m pretty anti-pay the players but to guys from poor families, this is big money.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 AM
Collin Carroll’s favorite First Nation peoples? You guessed it.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 AM
This is the kinda guy who would call his cable company to let them know he was mistakenly getting HBO for free
not just me, says this asshole to the cable company, the whole building. You gotta fix this. My neighbors are probably happy to pay.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 AM
No. The Rose Bowl should still have Pac
8Ten12 vs. Big1011 </strike)Ten-ish/12./history count
sedJanuary 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 AM
I think the naval exercises by Iran in the Strait of Hormuz might have a bit of an effect in the oil prices as well.
Clearly. But I was making a ‘cartel’ joke. The definition of a cartel is one of the only things I remember from economics class.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 AM
/
fuckJanuary 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 AM
I had per diems from PSU’s law school when I traveled for moot court. Used them on Knicks tickets at MSG and paying bar tabs for strangers. Fuck your endowment.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:32 AM
$64.39 is not much money
in college, when you don’t need to buy food? And you get it every day? That’s a gold mine of player payment.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:33 AM
I’m guessing the first led to the second?
/nothing like getting your endowment fucked
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:33 AM
I have 19 dollars in my checking account until Friday, I will be fine. Food is cheap when you need it to be.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:33 AM
It really won’t be
/Arkansas is going to roll.
//Completely aware of our bowl record.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:33 AM
This is the nerdiest thing that has ever been written in the comments section of this blog.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:34 AM
One thing he doesn’t get is that, since bowls are just vehicles to promote tourism, the bowl week is actually important, so they can do the PR stuff around town.
As for the money, I don’t think he’s saying players shouldn’t get paid. It’s pointing out the absurdity of it all. If you’re not going to pay players, but then give them money just to pay for food, then why do they need this money that’s clearly not going toward food?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Let it go, ms. The Craig James thread is over. It’s not coming back.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Collin Carroll thinks Frank Stallone > Sly even though he’s never seen Saturday Night Live.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Clearly. But I was making a ‘cartel’ joke. The definition of a cartel is one of the only things I remember from economics class.
Yeah, I realized this right after I hit send. Missed the point. Carry on.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:35 AM
How many posts do you think Duffy has in the hopper ready to fire off about indentured servitude if they did this?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Someone’s backtracking….
http://twitter.com/#!/TheBigLead/status/154237175091830784
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:35 AM
that was a bag of pot and four days worth of food.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:35 AM
$64.39 is not much money
It’s also 10 bucks more than I get per day when I travel.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:35 AM
All of this. Imagine you were in college and you were given 60+ bucks every day, and that was with getting food on top of that? You’d be thrilled.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:36 AM
A buddy of mine was a walk on at OSU and he said that during the fiesta bowl there was just a hotel room filled with Tostito’s products that was always open. You gotta hit the Con Queso hard.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:36 AM
I financed my last 2 years of college social life with a side job that paid 32.50 every 2 weeks and then surcharges for buying fresh/sophs beer/liquor. What a choch this guy is.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:36 AM
What shitty weed are you smoking, or how much Ramen are you eating?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Maybe if daddy is paying your way at Columbia, but I remember waiting to go to the bar until midnight thursday nights because thats when my direct deposit paycheck hit.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:37 AM
All kidding aside, I guess I can’t blame this kid for grasping at his fifteen minutes of fame. He’s learned that lesson well.
We’ve all known this has gone on for decades, and we have shrugged our shoulders collectively. Nothing we can actually do about it. Gutsy move by this guy, taking an unpopular stance in print.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 AM
All of this. Imagine you were in college and you were given 60+ bucks every day, and that was with getting food on top of that? You’d be thrilled.
re-stock the liquor cabinet, pay off your library fines so you dont have to steal books out of the library, one article of clothing and then hit BW3. Sweet.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 AM
$50 for the buddy discount of a Q of ak and one box lean pockets (gotta stay trim, ya hurd?), a box of kashi crunch and a gallon of skim milk…was $12.19 back in the day.
loved life back then.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Let it go, ms. The Craig James thread is over. It’s not coming back.
Ha. I checked it yesterday and there were a handful of comments around Christmas.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Apparently Mcfadden could not afford condoms, Capt. Ginger Buzz Killington does not have that problem.
/Won’t someone please think of the stripper’s children
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Maybe if daddy is paying your way at Columbia, but I remember waiting to go to the bar until midnight thursday nights because thats when my direct deposit paycheck hit.
Those were awesome times though. Every time I bitch about money now, I need to think back to those days.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Imagine you were an illegal immigrant doing yardword for $40 a week. Wouldn’t that be better than getting nothing?
Now imagine that illegal immegrant is white.
/Jake Brigance’d
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Damn. No wonder I got fat in college. I would get the goods for food to go along with the Bob.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:39 AM
I’m enjoying this being copied out of context completely, and everyone is arguing that it IS a lot when the original joke was not much money to feed 2 kids and fight a paternity claim.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:40 AM
So when Ted Ginn broke his leg, delicious nacho cheese poured out?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:40 AM
OT – Jason, are we gonna get an “end-of-year” post on the Jets? Given Ryan’s locker room meeting yesterday, Holmes’ issues, Sanchez questions, etc., you gotta give the TBL “funk mob” a chance to air it out.
I’m off for a workout. When I get back, I wanna dive into it.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Those were awesome times though. Every time I bitch about money now, I need to think back to those days.
This. I used to completely rely on dollar beer Wednesdays at two bars that were down the street from me.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:41 AM
true story…alex boone resembled a white chocolate cadbury egg in that game. if you cracked him open, he’d have been full of caramel.
/fuck that fat piece of shit
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:41 AM
if you’re trying to connect the kid’s words in the column about BOWL WEEK to “pay the players” … you just don’t get it.
bowl week does not = the college life
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:41 AM
also, did abortions pour out of willis mcgahee’s knee?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:42 AM
That movie is so awful and yet so, so hilarious.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Troy Smith has fond memories of that room.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:42 AM
These sweet rims don’t come cheap.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Costs a lot less than sixty four bucks and change to push a pregnant bitch down a flight of stairs am I right?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Imagine you were an illegal immigrant doing yardword for $40 a week. Wouldn’t that be better than getting nothing?
there is no-fucking-body behind my Home Depot, and I’ve got so many jobs that a Mexican would be perfect for. And his wife could cook. He could help me build an addition onto this house where they could live. And he could have his anchor baby at the local hospital.
Dear illegals, please camp out behind my Home Depot, so I can find you.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:42 AM
I’m sure I’ll give you shit later this week when you try to dimish Drew Brees, TBL, but you and I are lock step in agreement on this bowl game nonsense.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:42 AM
bowl week does not = the college life
It does if you’re a college football player. Especially at a big time program.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:43 AM
This is true, during college life the players get three free meals a day and snacks at anytime instead of twice.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:43 AM
im so confused…so you don’t want to pay players a per diem, but you’re an advocate for more bowl games. you don’t want non-players/schools profiting off bowls, yet the only people who’d profit off of a playoff would be networks and conferences.
confusing.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:43 AM
if you’re trying to connect the kid’s words in the column about BOWL WEEK to “pay the players” … you just don’t get it.
bowl week does not = the college life
so this money couldn’t possibly stay in the pockets of the players past this week? This 500 bucks? Do they take it away after the game?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:44 AM
Wait, TBL is diminishing Drew Brees now? Figures. Brees had the third best season of any QB in the league this year, why would he diminish that?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:44 AM
You know who else is overpaid? Teachers. Those assholes get upwards of $30K/year.
Hell, I used to live on $38.71/week in college. Don’t see why they need so much money.
/everyone
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:44 AM
shots fired?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:44 AM
lol because it’s true.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:45 AM
I’m connecting him saying “WHAT ARE EARTH COULD WE POSSIBLY NEED ALL THAT MONEY FOR?” to your argument for paying players.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:45 AM
re: 1st point … wrong Jason. Lisk’s piece is coming this afternoon.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Dear illegals, please camp out behind my Home Depot, so I can find you.
Move to KC. They hang out in front of the Home Depots.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:46 AM
Just threaten to kill her on twitter using the school’s wifi.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:46 AM
IN NEW ORLEANS.
IN NEW ORLEANS.
Where they get everything free.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:46 AM
Really not confusing at all, he wants to turn college football into NFL Lite.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:46 AM
Maybe not for the QB, but the long snapper could get his feet wet in New Orleans if he wasn’t such a fucking stiff.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:46 AM
But if you didn’t want people to make that connection, why did you choose to quote the only paragraph in the whole article that specifically discusses dollar amounts? Why not the one about the temptations of Bourbon Street? Or the players lack of focus due to all of the distractions?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Hilarious.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:47 AM
/keeps refreshing waiting for heldover to find my comment
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:48 AM
IN NEW ORLEANS.
IN NEW ORLEANS.
Where they get everything free.
They get everything for free during the regular season when they are on campus as well.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Now I understand why this kid is a long snapper. He’s used to being in a position with his head up his ass.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:49 AM
You want Cam to get 5 million, but you are simultaneously agreeing with a player saying they should get nothing, not a free trip, no disneyland, not a couple extra bucks in his pocket, nothing.
So pay them millions or pay them nothing?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Long before the Superdome, where the Saints of football play, lived a city that the damned call home, hear their hellish Rondelet. New Orleans!
Home of pirates, drunks and whores. NEW ORLEANS! Tacky, overpriced souvenir stores.
If you wanna go to hell you should take that trip to the Sodom and Gomorrah on the “Mississippi”. NEW ORLEANS!
Stinking, rotten “vomity” vile. NEW ORLEANS!
Putrid, brackish, maggoty, foul. New Orleans! Crummy, lousy, rancid and rank. NEW ORLEANS!
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:49 AM
See comment No. 123. I had a buddy on scholly playing soccer at Ga State. He was getting $1,100 a month from his scholly. If he lived on campus, he pocketed that cash. But yeah…those poor pitiful players are so hard up for cash.
THis is the issue. The NFL fans don’t get that college is a different game with different goals.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:50 AM
to be fair…they’re the reason everyone traveled there in the first place. nobody’d show up to the sugar bowl if it was arkansas state vs. tulsa.
if anything, this is the payment of players you’ve been talking about. a token of appreciation for their efforts beyond a scholarship. hooray per diems!
/not sure what im arguing anymore
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:51 AM
Long before the Superdome, where the Saints of football play, lived a city that the damned call home, hear their hellish Rondelet. New Orleans!
Home of pirates, drunks and whores. NEW ORLEANS! Tacky, overpriced souvenir stores.
If you wanna go to hell you should take that trip to the Sodom and Gomorrah on the “Mississippi”. NEW ORLEANS!
Stinking, rotten “vomity” vile. NEW ORLEANS!
Putrid, brackish, maggoty, foul. New Orleans! Crummy, lousy, rancid and rank. NEW ORLEANS!
+a lot
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:51 AM
its fucking amateur sports. Get over it, you pay-the-players jack asses
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:51 AM
/bowl week does not = the college life
//It does if you’re a college football player. Especially at a big time program
When I was in school, we’d work for free in the athletic department all year. But when the state high school district/regional/state championships for certain sports, especially basketball were held, the school would have us “work” all the games and get paid. So March was a huge payoff, just like Bowl Week. It’s understood if you play the game you got some payout this month. I’d have straight up choked a peer if they told the school to not pay us for that week. Amazing cajones.
Find me a freshman or sophomore to write this column. And then see if he’s alive in a few years. Real sleazy to pen this column with one foot out the door. Guy already has his locker cleaned out I bet.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:52 AM
TBL’s resolution is to be as big a typing contradiction as possible. well done, bro.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:52 AM
New Orleans?! I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about New Orleans, not Boise, not Detroit, not Mobile, but we’re talking about New Orleans.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Word.
We’re puppets, and TBL is laughing all the way to the bank.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:53 AM
This is true.
/sadface
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 AM
Pay the commentariat! Or at least give us playoffs!
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 AM
HA!
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:55 AM
I was lucky enough that my dad paid for my college. Thing is, I went to college in Newark, NJ so there weren’t a lot of pubs within stumbling distance. I worked at the local ‘pub’ and did my majority of the drinking there and in the confines of my frat house. Red Dog, and Golden Anniversary were the cheap beers I got. Occasionally, my roommate would share some of his Icehouse.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:56 AM
amateur sports no longer exist…it’s simply pre-pubescent pros playing whatever pro game while getting coached like a pro with the bill being footed by someone else (rich dad, scholarship, etc). everything’s a minor league these days…
in doing research for doing some USGA amateur golf competitions, it was pretty appalling to see the amateur “rankigns” and seeing that they’re actually endorsed by club companies. these kids travel across the country and expenses can run into six figures…how the hell is that amateur?
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 AM
Red Dog
is this still made? There’s this shuttered bar I go buy with a red dog sign up, it cracks me up every time I see it.
January 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 AM
How about Red Wolf? That stuff was heinous.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:00 PM
Amateur status exists in the sports where there’s no money to be made (wrestling, for example).
Anything that has a payoff at the end (basketball, golf, baseball, football), is exactly like you describe.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:01 PM
Bill Hancock, the BCS and the NCAA can lick my balls. Glad at least one player called out the waste in the system.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:04 PM
yep…and it pisses me off.
some kid who’s dad ferried him around the country who’s got a club deal with ping or titleist is considered an amateur, and despite the fact he’s a d-1 golfer that gets facilities and a home course that rivals any country club in the country, he’s just as much of an amateur as i am.
fuck that noise.
/chip on shoulder
//takes off rest of afternoon to practice
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:06 PM
in doing research for doing some USGA amateur golf competitions, it was pretty appalling to see the amateur “rankigns” and seeing that they’re actually endorsed by club companies. these kids travel across the country and expenses can run into six figures…how the hell is that amateur?
Speaking of amateurs spencer, do you know anything about Kelly Kraft? He went to SMU and is supposed to be pretty damn good.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:09 PM
yep…dude’s from denton. he beat this kid patrick cantlay in this year’s US amateur. cantlay is the guy i think of when i think of entitled, spoiled, asshole kids who aren’t amateurs…why? because he turned down $450+k of PGA winnings to retain his amateur status cuz daddy is rich enough to foot his bill.
fuck that kid. seeing kraft beat the fuck out of cantlay when cantlay missed a fucking fairway with a fucking 8-iron made my year. i couldn’t have been rooting harder for him.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:11 PM
Denton? There’s a solid death metal band out of Denton.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:13 PM
who’s that?
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:13 PM
+One was named Cyrus, and the other was Jeff.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:14 PM
This looked like me in 6th grade on the basketball court. My growth spurt was not kind to me that year.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:15 PM
Wrong thread
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:15 PM
wrong post, cocksucker.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:16 PM
awesome video tho…
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:22 PM
I was really hoping someone would catch that.
He closed with it when I saw them in April, fucking incredible.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:24 PM
Good stuff, thanks spencer. So do you think Kraft can cut it on the tour? When he won the U.S. Amateur Championship this year he automatically won invitations to several tournaments….is he good enough to become a big name in the PGA?
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 PM
lol @ the song…”the best ever death metal band out of denton never settled on a name. but the top three contenders, after weeks of debate,
were satan’s fingers, and the killers, and the hospital bombers.”
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:28 PM
Wait, TBL is diminishing Drew Brees now? Figures. Brees had the third best season of any QB in the league this year, why would he diminish that?
This was from a few years ago, when TBL made one of his “gray background” posts in which he opined that Michael Vick was a better QB than Brees. Then the 2009 season happened. I’ve jokingly never let TBL live that one down.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:29 PM
na, he probably won’t ever be a big name on Tour and his match with cantlay kinda showed why, even tho he won…cantlay was outdriving him by 50 yards all day. it’s like the difference between those really good college players and that guy you know is going to be a perennial all-pro.
despite winning the most prestigious amateur event, even in comparison to fellow am’s, kraft is behind. he was DUSTED, and i mean absolutely destroyed at the walker cup (the amateur ryder cup).
sucks, because i liked watching him play and really was rooting for him hard over cantlay. the PGA is just a different world entirely than the golf normal people can relate to.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:30 PM
Wait, TBL is diminishing Drew Brees now? Figures. Brees had the third best season of any QB in the league this year, why would he diminish that?
And for the record: I see what you did there.
/sharpens knife
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:32 PM
na, he probably won’t ever be a big name on Tour and his match with cantlay kinda showed why, even tho he won…cantlay was outdriving him by 50 yards all day. it’s like the difference between those really good college players and that guy you know is going to be a perennial all-pro.
despite winning the most prestigious amateur event, even in comparison to fellow am’s, kraft is behind. he was DUSTED, and i mean absolutely destroyed at the walker cup (the amateur ryder cup).
sucks, because i liked watching him play and really was rooting for him hard over cantlay. the PGA is just a different world entirely than the golf normal people can relate to.
Sad. I guess we still only have Payne Stewart to hang our hats on.
I’ve noticed though that really good college golfers rarely seem to have the skills necessary to make it on the Tour. Most seem to top out at the Nationwide, if even that high.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:33 PM
yall got colt knost too…he’s an SMU alum, i think.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:36 PM
college golf is like college football…some programs want to make their golfers better, some just want to put band-aids on their game in order to be more successful.
plus, considering how much talent doesn’t go to college in europe, asia, south africa and australia, it’s a much deeper talent pool than NCAA. because, if a golfer’s good enough to make it on tour, well, he’s usually on tour.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:37 PM
and SMU has a great college golf program…i think they just poached augusta state’s coach after he led augusta to a bunch of NCAA successes.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Thanks spencer. All very fascinating stuff. I knew we had a good program, but I didn’t know how good. We supposedly have a decent women’s golf team too.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:50 PM
I’m for letting the players major in football and minor in how to find a job when your 1% chance of making it to the NFL falls through and you’ve squandered 4 years of a free college education.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:56 PM
college golf you can do some damage by being consistenly very good. THe pros you need to consistently GO LOW. Plus it’s an international field and guys can play late in their careers.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:57 PM
“The Sugar Bowl committee also brought us to a bowling alley”
I certainly hope that was the Rock ‘n’ Bowl. Best place in the world to hear exceptional live music while rolling a frame. The Dude would abide.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:59 PM
satan’s fingers, and the killers, and the hospital bombers
The best punk band name I’ve ever heard was Scraping Fetus Off the Wheel. I believe they were from Houston.
/ Houston – Geto Boys represent!
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:59 PM
read a post where some dude calculated the hypothetical handicaps for the pros on the PGA and nationwide tours. we don’t have slope and course rating for tournament setups and pros don’t carry handicaps so it was kind of an educated guess but the results were interesting nonetheless…
nationwide pros are around a +4, PGA around +6. the guy who came up with the handicap and rating systems, dean knuth, estimated angel cabrera played at a +10 over the four days of the 2009 masters. insane shit.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:57 PM
One guy. JG Thirlwell, aka Jim Foetus. Also played under You’ve Got Foetus on Your Breath and a few other such nicknames.
/The more you know