Cam Newton vs the Other Top Rookie Quarterbacks
Earlier this year, after Cam Newton began the season with consecutive 400 yard passing games, I said that he was one of the top five rookie quarterbacks of the modern era, and the only issue was where he would fall on the list.
Many of you thought I was being rash. Among the comments:
- He’s played in 2 games. No one will be saying this when he has 32 INTs.
- He’s looked so much better than I was hoping expecting, but this seems like some $%@# TBL would write, rather than the level-headed Lisk.
- 2 games in and we’re ready to crown his ass?
- He’s played 2 games. I think Lisk is a bit premature in writing this article.
- Two games, and Newton is the second coming of Marino? That’s gotta have Dan flippin’ over in his grave*. (* The NFL Today)
- Jason Lisk has entered into TBL hyperbole territory with this article. What a shame.
- 2 games into the season is WAY to early to start making declarations about Cam Newton having the greatest rookie season ever.
In that original piece, I said that Newton was going to finish somewhere in a group that included Dan Marino, Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Ryan and Greg Cook for best rookie season by a quarterback in the Super Bowl era. I did that knowing that Newton had, at the time thrown 4 interceptions (alas, he did not continue that pace, interceptions being the most volatile factor) while Andy Dalton had posted 100+ QB Ratings in his first two starts on far fewer throws.
Now that we are one game away from the end, I think it’s safe to say Cam Newton has safely finished within that top five. Unless people believe QB wins are a valid statistic and that Cam Newton playing with the 7th worst scoring defense while Andy Dalton plays with the 9th best invalidates everything else, Newton is the runaway rookie of the year.
Cam Newton’s passing numbers, at least his astronomical yards per attempt, did regress as should have been expected for anyone. On the other hand, his interception rate improved, and when you consider how frequently he handled the ball either passing or running, his turnover rate was pretty good for a rookie (and ended up in line with Dalton’s). More impressive to me, his sack rate improved to league average. When we consider how much he also ran to avoid sacks, he was above average at avoiding sacks as a rookie, while still completing a decent percentage. He accounted for 34 touchdowns (20 passing, 16 rushing) and the Carolina offense went from dead last to 6th best.
Passing wise, Newton is just below the others, but that doesn’t account for his huge advantage in rushing yards and touchdowns to go with the passing. Here’s a chart where I combined runs with passes and sacks to create a “completion percentage” that consists of [positive runs + pass completions]/[positive runs + pass attempts + sacks], as well as a net yards per play that includes passing yards, rushing yards and sacks, and a touchdown percentage and turnover percentage that accounts for all plays, rushing and passing, and all turnovers, not just interceptions.
Cook played in the 60′s, when success rates were lower and turnovers higher. He had the highest yards per play but also a dramatically higher turnover rate. We’ll kick him to fifth.
After that, Newton is in line with the others in yards per play (if you are curious, Dalton is at 5.95). His success rate is comparable once we account for all the positive running plays. His TD rate is lower than Marino but higher than Roethlisberger and Ryan. His turnover rate is in line with the other three, and actually a shade better.
Then, there is the volume. Cam Newton carried the Panthers on offense, accounting for 645 plays, compared to Roethlisberger, who rode a strong defense to 252 highly efficient plays where he was not expected to carry the load. On a rate stat basis, Newton was just as good as Marino, Roethlisberger, and Ryan, he just was involved in more plays. I know that you can then point to the records (the other three all made the playoffs).
Pittsburgh was 1st in points allowed, Miami was 2nd in points allowed, and Atlanta was 11th. The Panthers this year are 26th in points allowed.
So, if you want to call this the best rookie quarterback season, go ahead. It is certainly in line with the greatest of all-time, and I’m not sure another quarterback carried a team as much as Newton did in getting this team to 6 wins and counting despite the defense.
[photo via Getty]

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December 30th, 2011 at 11:14 AM
$cam’s been earnin’ his keep the last two years.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:15 AM
The way he disparaged Jamarcus Russell and Vince Young in an interview earlier this week cemented him as a great kid to me.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:21 AM
You should have slapped names on those comments, it’s a little bit of a chore to look up who I can point and laugh at
I think the only reason you’ve heard talk of Dalton for ROY is that just like the MVP it’s been obvious for a while who should win but talking heads need to create chatter
December 30th, 2011 at 11:21 AM
I’m glad Lisk took those comments and put them in a safe place.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:21 AM
AJ Green should get more votes than Dalton.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:21 AM
Killa Cam (Dip Set, Dip Set, Dip Set! Sorry, I couldn’t help myself) always seemed to have the tools necessary to be an explosive player. He is as big as Jim Brown with a really strong arm, I am glad he is more Peyton Manning than he is Jamarcus Russell.
/Favorite Cam’ron Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6_BaENSJPg
December 30th, 2011 at 11:23 AM
But all that said, Lisk…where would you rank Dalton…top 10? top 20?
December 30th, 2011 at 11:26 AM
Great post Lisk, but a simple “I told you so” could have saved you about 1000 words.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:26 AM
do you have pics of his sack and the average league sack?
/TBL
December 30th, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Seventh is better than 9th.
/biased, selective reader
December 30th, 2011 at 11:27 AM
I was led to believe that a true winner would inspire his defense to play better.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
Dalton has 2 more wins in the stat column than Cam.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:29 AM
I’m curious as to how the Panthers red-zone efficiency compared to other teams.
Long-winded rant: I hate when TV graphics say “Team A has scored 25 of 29 times in the red zone”. I REALLY wish they’d break it down on a points per red zone basis.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
is this the Romo Corollary?
December 30th, 2011 at 11:31 AM
My favorite comment from the original post:
December 30th, 2011 at 11:32 AM
I like Points Per Yard is a measure of offensive efficiency. Granted, this needs to be studied in concert with Average Starting Field Position to get a clearer picture of overall efficiency.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:32 AM
If Newton were on the Broncos, or, rather, had the Broncos D, they already would have clinched a playoff spot. He’d be the darling of the league (or should be).
If he can hold up physically, he should only get better.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:33 AM
Agreed, I’m guessing the 49ers score just about every time in the red zone but that’s why David Akers has already set the single season record for made field goals
December 30th, 2011 at 11:35 AM
Now if only he’d stop saying misguided things.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:35 AM
In fairness to rookie QB’s who played prior the reign of Goodell when defenders could actually hit receivers instead of gently laying them to rest on a bed of pillows with an nice hug, these numbers were put up in the same year 2 guys break Marino’s record.
Not sure how to account for that other than saying get off my f’in lawn.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:36 AM
I expect Todd McShay to announce that Cam, according to his sources, likes the “purple drank” and will go the way of Jamarcus any day now.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:36 AM
this has what to do with his play? who gives a shit?
December 30th, 2011 at 11:39 AM
Nothing. He’s very good at football.
I do when his moronic crutch quotes regarding Vince Young and JaMarcus Russell take over the internet for 12 hours.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:42 AM
I thought he made a decent point regarding those two…you don’t hear people say Andrew Luck could become the next Ryan Leaf just because they’re both white
December 30th, 2011 at 11:43 AM
He’s a good quarterback. His play shows that. He need not bother defend himself against such blanket assertions. Just tell people to watch the tape.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:44 AM
I agree.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:45 AM
the internet is really big.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:46 AM
As long is it’s not average yards per play. Nothing I hate more in sports than when the biggest douche in the universe talks about average yards per play as a reason to go for it on fourth down. Median vs. mean matters.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:47 AM
Funny thing is I just had to Google what he said about Russell, wasn’t that hard to ignore apparently
December 30th, 2011 at 11:49 AM
Same here
December 30th, 2011 at 11:49 AM
I was led to believe that a true winner would inspire his defense to play better.
/Hand of Tebow’d
//Von owes everything to TeJesus
December 30th, 2011 at 11:50 AM
Amirite ladies???
December 30th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
I’m making my inaugural trip to 5 Guys here in about an hour, any recommendations?
December 30th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
Tums
December 30th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
Bacon chee, “all the way” (no mushrooms, add A-1) and a regular order of seasoned fries. Keep the fungus if you want to, I just don’t like it.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
Don’t plan any strenuous activities for a good 4-5 hours afterward
December 30th, 2011 at 11:56 AM
yes, get the burger and eschew the fries.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
Keep it simple. I actually like it quite a bit (I’ve tried the famous local ones, and they aren’t much better than 5 guys). Just don’t go crazy with all the toppings, and be prepared for a lot of grease.
Also… split fries with someone, or you’ll end up leaving half your food there.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
OT… Watched the Lakes play last night for the first time this season w/o the deafening babble of extended family around. I had no idea they are now the new Boston Celtics. They can field an all-whitey floor with a couple still on the bench. Odder still, other than Pau, they’re all good ole’ American whiteys!
Stevie Blake is awful nice. Who’d a thunk he’d be the guy to stick from that Terps team? Where have you gone Juanderful Dixon, the nation turns its…
December 30th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
Get the fries, but don’t try to finish them.
Mooyah > 5 Guys
December 30th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
Be prepared for your regimented poop schedule to be possibly slightly altered.
December 30th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
Agreed, thought the Cajun fries were kinda gross and the regular ones are nothing special
December 30th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
OT, but this is all kinds of awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UbVN0TGos1c
December 30th, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Plus I’d just walk around everywhere jackin’ it.
December 30th, 2011 at 12:03 PM
I’m an “all the way”, but hold the ketchup and mustard and go with A-1 instead kind of guy at Five Guys.
December 30th, 2011 at 12:05 PM
Lisk, give us a score for Chefs-Broncos. Chase the Orton.
December 30th, 2011 at 12:05 PM
It’s one thing letting Tom Brady move on you. It’s another thing to get punked by the Bills.
/unless that was bad field position + turnovers too, I didn’t see the game
December 30th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
Eschew the fries really well so you don’t eschoke.
December 30th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
dually noted. I’ve been “working” a decent amount already this morning so I feel like I am mentally prepared for an afternoon of not doing shit.
December 30th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
If you go to five guys you will be doing plenty of shit this afternoon
I’ve got 1.5 lb of prime rib leftover from dinner monday, and that is getting fried up with an onion and a pepper and just a bit of A1 today for sandwiches today.
December 30th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Eh, just a clunker. They’ve played much better against better opponents, but that was ugly. Playing a couple of rookie safeties didn’t help.
December 30th, 2011 at 12:10 PM
I’ve got 1.5 lb of prime rib leftover from dinner monday, and that is getting fried up with an onion and a pepper and just a bit of A1 today for sandwiches today.
You mean today today?
December 30th, 2011 at 12:13 PM
Does 5 Guys have a good veggie burger?
/takes cover under his patchouli-smelling poncho…’cuz it’s windy
//lights what’s left of last night’s jay
December 30th, 2011 at 12:16 PM
5 guys fries are good (think fries on the boardwalk) – but they do give you a crap load and as cleet said, you’ll notice a change in your regularity as a result.
A single with toppings plus fries is plenty. Double is overkill.
December 30th, 2011 at 12:39 PM
/unless that was bad field position + turnovers too, I didn’t see the game
well, the last 14 points were scored on defensive touchdowns by Buffalo.
December 30th, 2011 at 12:50 PM
Five Guys – Bacon, sauteed onions, lettuce, tomato, and a little A-1.
December 30th, 2011 at 1:24 PM
Five Guys is good, about the same as Smashburger, although they are different types of places. Smashburger gives you more options on the fries, but the actual fry itself is better at 5 guys. And having seen what kids do to the boxes of peanuts, stay away from the peanuts.