This Seems Like a Silly Reason to Keep Jeff Bagwell Off Your Hall of Fame Ballot
Here’s Jeff Jacobs of the Hartford Courant on Jeff Bagwell’s Hall of Fame chances:
I have wanted to wait a few years to see if anything surfaced. To watch ESPN, Yahoo!, New York Daily News, the Texas media — someone with the resources and vigor — put Bagwell in its headlights and see if he emerges clean. I have no intentions of making him wait forever. I will wait another year or two. If the worst thing I do is to make him enter the Hall of Fame with his teammate Craig Biggio, well, that’s damning Bagwell with a great blessing.
Peter Gammons is going to be angry at this logic. So will Tyler Kepner. Jacobs voted for Barry Larkin and Jack Morris, neither of which was a better player in his prime than Bagwell. In 2010, Bagwell spoke at length with ESPN about steroids. [Courant]
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December 14th, 2011 at 5:36 PM
I have no dog in this fight as he played in the NL, but it seems pretty obvious he was roided up.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:41 PM
Succinct and accurate assessment.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:41 PM
It never ceases to amaze me the people entrusted with college football votes and baseball Hall of Fame ballots.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:44 PM
One of the Giants beat writers felt he deserved entry…
I have no real opinion on it because I didn’t really follow him much, but I would lean towards IN based off my eye test and drug-afflicted memory.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:44 PM
Bagwell: Hall of Famer.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:44 PM
No the worst thing you could do is make him wait those extra two years and his enlarged heart catches up with him.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:45 PM
Dirty or no, eventually he is gonna get in. Well-liked by the media. I guess the big deal is he won’t be a first-ballot guy.
Whoop-de-damn-do.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:45 PM
I count 4 probable roiders on that ballot.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:47 PM
No the worst thing you could do is make him wait those extra two years and his enlarged heart catches up with him.
Ha.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:48 PM
Yeah, Larry Walker relied on his Tebow-given ability.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:48 PM
Manny > Bagwell
What are we talking about? C’mon Manny, come back to the Wahoo Warriors!
December 14th, 2011 at 5:50 PM
Manny > Bagwell
I don’t think many people would argue otherwise. Unless you throw defense into the argument. Bagwell’s defense >>>> a half-deflated beach ball thrown onto the field by a crowd >>>> Manny’s defense.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:50 PM
Jim Kleinsasser is retiring? Can’t believe he was even still playing.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:51 PM
How can such a large number of baseball writers be so fucking retarded? They pride themselves on their ignorance of baseball. Jack Morris does not belong in the Hall of Fame.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:54 PM
no
December 14th, 2011 at 5:54 PM
But but but 1-0!
And that intimidating moustache!
December 14th, 2011 at 5:55 PM
Bagwell > Larkin > Morris
TBL this might be one of the smartest things you’ve ever said.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:56 PM
But but but 1-0!
And that intimidating moustache!
You forgot “10 innings….in a row!”
That’s what baseball writers masturbate over the most these days. Then they use that as a segue into a column about how pitchers are pussies these days and managers coddle their players.
December 14th, 2011 at 6:00 PM
Larkins, Raines, and I’d toss a vote to Morris though. I don’t know how I feel about the DH thing for Edgar. I wouldn’t be upset if he got in.
December 14th, 2011 at 6:02 PM
Kick out Ripken, Sandberg and Santo and I don’t give a fuck who they let in.
December 14th, 2011 at 6:05 PM
Bagwell should absolute be in HoF. Jack Morris would be an absolute disaster.
December 14th, 2011 at 6:07 PM
My ballot would be: Bagwell, McGuire, Trammell, Larkin, Raines and Edgar
/team big Hall
//if we’re letting in Jim Rice, gotta let everyone in
///TEH FEAR!!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 6:07 PM
Don’t forget Andre Dawson.
December 14th, 2011 at 6:08 PM
I’m assuming Browns fans broke twitter after hearing this Holmgren gem from the presser today: “”Absolutely (Shurmur will be back). He’ll be the head coach.”
December 14th, 2011 at 6:09 PM
I think Brett Butler should get into the HoF.
/best bunter Giants have ever had
December 14th, 2011 at 6:10 PM
Has Jim Rice become the standard bearer for undeserved election?
/Didn’t think it was THAT bad
//Red Sox fan
///Wouldn’t have voted for him
December 14th, 2011 at 6:11 PM
//if we’re letting in Jim Rice, gotta let everyone in
Rice isn’t a horrendous inclusion, but he is the very definition of borderline.
December 14th, 2011 at 6:13 PM
Not if Dawson and Sandberg are in.
December 14th, 2011 at 6:19 PM
I copied Jeff Bagwells batting stance in little league after sucking my first year and made 2 straight All Star teams. Ergo, Hall of Famer.
December 14th, 2011 at 6:21 PM
Geez…Rice’s career road OPS is even lower than Dawson’s.
December 14th, 2011 at 6:32 PM
Don’t ever speak about Cal that way.
/Get’s #8 tattooed on back
December 14th, 2011 at 6:49 PM
WHERE THE HELL IS HAROLD BAINES AND DALE MURPHY PEOPLE? WE’RE TALKING ABOUT HALL OF FAME HERE
/diddy3000′d
December 14th, 2011 at 6:50 PM
Wonder what Bagwell’s ex-wife thinks about his HOF chances….
Let the commentariat unleash their vitriol!
December 14th, 2011 at 6:51 PM
Link fail!
/continue on commentariat
December 14th, 2011 at 6:57 PM
No question, the standard bearer of undeserved election now and forever will always be Ron Santo.
December 14th, 2011 at 6:59 PM
Fixed for both accuracy and hilarity.
December 14th, 2011 at 7:22 PM
This to me is about the most slippery of slopes. I don’t see how you keep any of them out – even Waterhead Barry, Ragin’ Roger, Sammy the Syringe, Rafael the Roider – all of them with the on-field performance to qualify (sorry McGuire). To do anything else seems completely arbitrary. Sure there are some known users/abusers, but I seriously doubt more than 5% of the actual users have been identified. It sucks, but the era was what it was.
December 14th, 2011 at 7:23 PM
McGwire – the PEDs are killing my spelling.
December 14th, 2011 at 8:07 PM
no
roider and the faggy padded batting glove he wore
December 14th, 2011 at 10:35 PM
if you’re eating 30 pounds of meat every single day and you’re working out and bench pressing, you’re going to get bigger.
Bagwell’s got a point. I don’t think you need to work out and bench press, though. 30# of any kind of food per day will get you bigger
December 14th, 2011 at 10:57 PM
Needs more “Jeff Pearlmann” is an epic hypocritical douchebag.
Step 1: write glowing column about the ’98 McGwire HR Derby
Step 2: write post that Bagwell shouldn’t be in HoF because even if he didn’t do steroids, he knew about it and did nothing.
My order for worst human beings in sports journalism: Easterbrook, Reilly, Pearlmann
/Easterbrook also makes the overall top 100
December 14th, 2011 at 11:38 PM
Do people really still care about the baseball HOF? To me, reasoning like his reeks of, “Hey look at me!” which then makes people talk about the HOF. Otherwise nobody would care to even care about it or its outdated, haughty self-righteous voters.
December 14th, 2011 at 11:41 PM
If you don’t believe Bagwell should be in the HOF then you deserve to be vomited on by a total stranger, preferably while on your way to an important meeting or a date.
December 15th, 2011 at 9:38 AM
Now middle age white baseball writers are now experts on who was juicing. They can now tell by assuming or looking at a body. The self importance is mind boggling.
I’m sure the people who actually run Cooperstown will be thrilled that the place will be empty the next 20 years as they only elect “clean” players.