Todd Haley Replacement Options: Kirk Ferentz? Josh McDaniels?
Todd Haley was fired today by the Chiefs, but according to Kent Babb of the Kansas City Star, Haley nearly resigned last week so that he could “leave on his own terms and retain his ability to tell his side of story,” regarding the dysfunction between himself and GM Scott Pioli. This relationship was doomed from the start of this season, as the GM was already looking to scapegoat the coach before the losses were even mounting. Michael Lombardi said early on that the tension was over Pioli wanting to bring in Josh McDaniels in as the offensive coordinator, a move that Haley opposed.
Well, yeah. That’s poor people management by Pioli. I’m sorry, but you don’t ask your spouse if the old flame, that you may have possibly preferred a few years earlier, can join the circle of friends when they move back into town. Especially if the ex got into a hair pulling incident at the mall with the current fling that made it’s way to YouTube. That’s not how relationships work, and strikes me as a passive-aggressive statement that Haley, being the confrontational type, probably interpreted the way it was intended. Pioli could hire and fire as he wishes, but that he thought that was the way to handle things speaks of a) lack of creativity and b) lack of judgment. There are plenty of coordinators at least as accomplished as McDaniels; he had to be on the short “no contact” list.
Now come the rumors. First up, according to Pete Roussel of coachingsearch.com, Pioli has told people that Kirk Ferentz of Iowa is the leading candidate. This is consistent with what we ran back in September, based on a Kent Babb comment. Ferentz and Pioli have a history together with Belichick, and recently the Chiefs have drafted Ferentz’ quarterback, Ricky Stanzi, along with a team captain the previous year in tight end Tony Moeaki. Ferentz is one of Pioli’s guys, much like Michael Lombardi. I have no doubt that Ferentz is the leading candidate, and it will simply come down to whether Ferentz wants to leave the college game, even though he has not distinguished himself as much in recent years.
Then there is Josh McDaniels. Of course, he is the next name mentioned. I don’t even know what I will do if that happens. The Chiefs have the 31st scoring offense in the league, with injuries to Jamaal Charles, Tony Moeaki, and Matt Cassel playing a role. The one team that is worse? The St. Louis Rams, with an offense coordinated by Josh McDaniels. If Pioli went to McDaniels, it would be a dangerous combination, and not one I would want to see.
I am concerned about Pioli’s “nepotism” of children from the Patriots tree. I think organizations need to challenge themselves with new ideas. The Steelers hiring of Mike Tomlin was a great example of getting someone who fit the organization, but was not tied to it before and not beholden to any stale ideas. So far, Pioli’s tenure strikes me as one that wants to recreate the “Patriot way” but attributes that success to surface similarities, rather than thinking creatively. He came in and acquired Matt Cassel. Not an unreasonable move in a vacuum, but the Chiefs were sitting with the 3rd pick in the draft. They paid Cassel handsomely because he was under the franchise tag. The commitment to Cassel, though, is more troublesome. He is a placeholder, perhaps the 25th to 30th best QB in the league. He is not a guy to go out and overpay, and Pioli, of all people, should have understood his value.
Instead, they used that early pick on a SEC defensive end, Tyson Jackson. You might recall that the Patriots drafted another one named Richard Seymour early in the tenure in New England. The Jackson pick was a forced one. The value of defensive ends in the 3-4 had changed, and Seymour was a value. The Jackson pick was a reach, that bore only surface resemblance.
The depth on the roster is lacking–this season has shown that. Tony Gonzalez, who wanted to get out, is still going strong in a different uniform. Brian Waters couldn’t cut it under the faux-Patriots way, and is now going strong with the real one. Early draft picks last year that should be used on core positions for a team that needs upgrade at starting positions went to niche roles (Arenas and McCluster as return men, slot receiver, and nickel back) and when you go “niche” early, they better be home runs.
What the Chiefs need is a strong coach, not a weak one, or one that is so beholden to Pioli that he plays yes man. Bill Cowher got his start in Kansas City, but there is no chance he comes here now. Pioli won’t go that route. Jon Gruden is angling for a job somewhere else, and would only be interested in a place like Kansas City of someone like Peyton Manning was part of a package deal. If Pioli had issues with Haley, he’s not going after a Gruden, who has more success to lean on. An assistant on another team that hasn’t had the past experience likely has no chance.
Pioli gets this firing. The boss of the boss always gets one, before his boss steps in. Pioli has some crucial decisions to make, primarily at the quarterback and coaching positions. He may have the opportunity to make a splash with one or both. My fear is the ultimate decision will lack creativity and instead fall to the familiar, a two dimensional model of the Patriot Way that lacks the depth of the original.
Previously: Todd Haley is In Trouble Because Scott Pioli’s Mouthpiece, Michael Lombardi, Is Attacking Him
Previously: Kansas City Chiefs Coach Todd Haley Fired
Previously: Todd Haley Replacement Chatter in Kansas City: Kirk Ferentz
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December 12th, 2011 at 3:12 PM
Natch, look how well he is doing at Iowa! Right?
December 12th, 2011 at 3:14 PM
Kirk “I average 8 wins a year in the B1G” Ferentz? Really? He’s already making bank for doing very little, would seem like a dumb move for both parties.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:15 PM
omg, id pay cash money for a highlight reel of peyton telling gruden to shut the hell up whenever gruden tried to micromanage in meetings and practices.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:16 PM
You’re not getting Ferentz. He won’t leave Iowa City when his son is going to be a senior next year.
Norm Parker is available though.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:18 PM
Josh McDaniels?! What, Richie Kotite isn’t available?
December 12th, 2011 at 3:18 PM
Who wants to live in KC? They should just have a nationwide Madden tourney winner takes the job.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:20 PM
Gonna put Eric Mangini out there
December 12th, 2011 at 3:22 PM
I have to wonder when was the last time Lisk put a resume together. Surprised he was able to write two posts already today while also applying for this job.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:22 PM
in all seriousness, he’s a good coach.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:24 PM
Two teams and a lot of players don’t agree.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:25 PM
Ron Zook.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:26 PM
Art Shell. Book it.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:26 PM
a) both those teams are owned and operated by morons.
b) really?
December 12th, 2011 at 3:26 PM
Marty Morningweg
The bar will be high!
December 12th, 2011 at 3:27 PM
Being better than Pat Shurmur doesnt make someone a good coach, spence
December 12th, 2011 at 3:28 PM
Sam Winters.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:28 PM
http://pic.twitter.com/SgIdkPgk Scalabrine meanmugging only means one thing. Championship
December 12th, 2011 at 3:29 PM
Honestly, said winner would probably coach better than 24 of the coaches in the league at the moment.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:29 PM
Bob Stoops?
December 12th, 2011 at 3:30 PM
Venables.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:30 PM
Wow, the over-the-top flames shooting out of the scoreboard really complete that picture perfectly.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:31 PM
Kirk Ferentz’s kid is the new Albert Pujols’s charity.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:31 PM
If the job is offered he’ll go. Any college coach would, really.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:33 PM
Here you go spence.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:33 PM
Has Pioli shown any creativity to this point? Someone with Parcells or Belichick ties will be hired for this job….
December 12th, 2011 at 3:33 PM
No, he won’t. He has a cushy job with all sorts of perks, limited expectations and an athletic director who loves him. He’s 56 years old and makes over $3M a year. He has money that even his grandkids couldn’t spend through.
There is a 0% chance of Kirk Ferentz leaving Iowa. None.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:33 PM
Sam Wyche is still alive right?
December 12th, 2011 at 3:34 PM
You can have Reid if he’s kicked out the door in Philly.
/probably not happening now
//kicks rock
December 12th, 2011 at 3:35 PM
Holy shit, Bob Barker turned 88 years old today.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:35 PM
that player who was there for a week sure has a much more valued opinion over guys that played seasons plural for the guy.
i bet you believe the research that cigarette companies provide too.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:36 PM
Jon Gruden is angling for a job somewhere else
someone give a job FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! get him out of the booth.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:37 PM
Yeah , I’d have to tell my son he is gonna have to do senior year by himself. Y’know grow up
December 12th, 2011 at 3:38 PM
He does announcing for SoCon games. I heard him call many an App State game the last few years. Judging by his voice, I would answer that no, he’s been dead for ten years.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:39 PM
+1 Plinko chip
December 12th, 2011 at 3:39 PM
Take a look at THIS GUY right here – he really doesn’t like Jon Gruden in the booth. This HAS to be ONE OF THE BEST comments related to an announcer I’ve seen all year across the entire league.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:39 PM
Steve Mariucci is still alive, right?
December 12th, 2011 at 3:40 PM
As much as I love/support Belichick, his disciples haven’t always (ever) been great coaches on their own…
December 12th, 2011 at 3:40 PM
The City of Fountains is rad. Great BBQ, friendly midwesterners, the novelty of walking across a street and being in another state with later bar hours…solid gold. And Arrowhead is a palace of footballitude.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:41 PM
Love him on NFL Network.
/throws dollar at Spencer
December 12th, 2011 at 3:41 PM
Sparano fired
December 12th, 2011 at 3:43 PM
TJ
Sparano is gone as per Glazer
/TJ
December 12th, 2011 at 3:43 PM
Sparano just got whacked by the Dolphins.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:43 PM
This makes no sense.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:43 PM
AT LEAST MINE INCLUDED A JOKE! Assholes.
/kicks rock
//accepts 3rd place trophy
///eats orange slices
December 12th, 2011 at 3:43 PM
I thought I saw that Sparano wouldnt be back last night on Twitter?
December 12th, 2011 at 3:44 PM
Who wants to live in KC?
Someone who wants a shot at one of the 32 coaching jobs available at the highest level of professional football in the country? Who gives a shit where it’s located? They’re not going to go to the beach or tour a museum during the week during the season.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:44 PM
Wow…four times the Duckworth on the Sparano firing. Well done everyone.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:44 PM
A game at Arrowhead is on my sports road trip bucket list. Have heard nothing but good stuff about seeing a game at Arrowhead.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:44 PM
Its like they were just waiting for the Dolphins to lose again
December 12th, 2011 at 3:45 PM
I saw that too, but I can’t recall who wrote that.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:45 PM
Anyone know if Sparano was fired?
December 12th, 2011 at 3:46 PM
Well, to be fair they did just clinch the UNDER on the wins total for the year (7.5) over the weekend.
/cashes ticket
//up to a push on the Saints with 3 to play
///stupid Cowboys need to win 2 of 3 to push after blowing the last 2 weeks
December 12th, 2011 at 3:46 PM
Uh oh… Giroux declared OUT for game vs. Capitals. This could be bad. I hope he’s OK.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:46 PM
obligatory.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:46 PM
Was Yunel Escobar traded?
/meme’d
December 12th, 2011 at 3:46 PM
Sources tell me he was
December 12th, 2011 at 3:48 PM
Dick Vermeil is still alive, right?
December 12th, 2011 at 3:48 PM
*Lower body ailment
December 12th, 2011 at 3:48 PM
I need them to place Giroux in bubble wrap IMMEDIATELY.
I’m starting to get fired up about the Winter Classic (24×7 starts this week) and no Giroux will harshen my buzz considerably.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:49 PM
link from spence’s link
December 12th, 2011 at 3:49 PM
that Sparano news broke yesterday. putz
December 12th, 2011 at 3:49 PM
Anyone know if Sparano was fired?
Was Yunel Escobar traded?
/meme’d
Also, Kevin Duckworth and Generalissimo Francisco Franco are still dead.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:51 PM
Spence how excited are you about the new Van Halen album this year?
December 12th, 2011 at 3:51 PM
What’s this now?
December 12th, 2011 at 3:52 PM
They said he was going to survive until season end, Glazer broke that he just got shit-canned today.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:52 PM
I was just looking at the draft order, and if ATL beats Jax and Tampa (as they should) it looks like CLE will get the 23rd or 24th overall pick. So Atlanta will have traded the 27th pick last year, the 23rd pick this year, a second rounder last year and two fourth rounders for the 6th over all pick. Still think they gave up too much, but if they can close 10-6, it looks much better today than it did on Draft day.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:53 PM
You didn’t hear? They signed with Interscope a few weeks ago and allegedly have already recorded it. Alex on drums, Diamond Dave back on vocals, Eddie running the show, his kid Wolfgang on bass. How fucking insane must it be for a 20 year old kid to be playing with one of the biggest bands of all time?
December 12th, 2011 at 3:54 PM
Copy-cat firing. The onslaught has begun.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:54 PM
on a scale of 1-10, 1 being the lowest and 10 being the highest, im a solid 1.5.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:55 PM
You’re dead to me. I thought a guitar man such as yourself would appreciate it.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:55 PM
/prays to whatever God Tebow prays to for Andy Reid to be next
December 12th, 2011 at 3:55 PM
Also, please, please, please, Chiefs: hire McDaniels!
December 12th, 2011 at 3:55 PM
Ivory Coast is still fucked.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:57 PM
I had not. Guess I’ll be forced to give it a few listens. My worry is the same as it has been for a while: Eddie. That man is BS Crazy. And not in a good way
December 12th, 2011 at 3:57 PM
Gamblor!
December 12th, 2011 at 3:58 PM
The Rolling Stone article on Eddie earlier this year was eye opening. He is messed up in the head. It doesn’t sound like he takes care of himself at all. I’m surprised that he’s still alive.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:59 PM
Exactly. No one wants to live in that shithole.
December 12th, 2011 at 3:59 PM
oh, no doubt…i love eddie the kamikaze. that said, rock is like cheese…when it gets old, sometimes it gets better, sometimes it gets REALLY bad. and VH aint no appenzeller reserve, ya hurd?
December 12th, 2011 at 4:00 PM
that said, the first VH album is in my cd changer in my car…we’ll always have 1979-1984 to listen back on in fondness.
December 12th, 2011 at 4:00 PM
They’ve been together with this lineup for three years now, apparently the stage presence is a lot different now because Wolfgang is just a kid and Eddie is old but the music is supposed to still be outstanding and Roth is as good as he ever was. I have genuine hope for it, hopefully it will erase the Gary Fucking Charone era from my memory forever.
December 12th, 2011 at 4:00 PM
Which interview was it where Eddie inferred that meth cured his cancer?
December 12th, 2011 at 4:00 PM
/really has to stop saying “that said…”
December 12th, 2011 at 4:02 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 12th, 2011 at 4:03 PM
I listened to one and two a few times this morning, got the day going right.
December 12th, 2011 at 4:04 PM
The old Mile High remains the loudest single place I have ever been, but Arrowhead is right there. When it’s full, and the crowd is in it, just fucking punishing.
December 12th, 2011 at 4:06 PM
atomic punk gets me going right.
December 12th, 2011 at 4:07 PM
Listening to Eruption right now. Finding it difficult to not pull my dick out at the office.
December 12th, 2011 at 4:07 PM
Which interview was it where Eddie inferred that meth cured his cancer?
It might have been that one, but I can’t recall. Everyone interviewed for the Rolling Stone piece mentioned how Eddie was still living in the house that he and Valerie Bertinelli used to live in. That he converted the garage into a studio and when you step in there, all there is is completely full ash trays, broken glass, and the smell of dirt because Eddie never cleans or showers.
December 12th, 2011 at 4:09 PM
just go up to the hot chick in the office and start singing the lyrics to ice cream man. that’ll get the panties wet.
December 12th, 2011 at 4:10 PM
Wasn’t all of that before he went to rehab though and got remarried?
December 12th, 2011 at 4:12 PM
AINT TALKIN BOUT LOVE
Just like I told you before.
December 12th, 2011 at 4:13 PM
Wasn’t all of that before he went to rehab though and got remarried?
I hope so.
December 12th, 2011 at 4:15 PM
One of my favorite quotes was about when they decided to do the reunion tour the other year and he’s like “well, Wolfgang is still in twelfth grade so we’re waiting for that to finish.” Doesn’t seem strange at all to him to take a high school senior on a worldwide arena tour. The man is clearly insane, but fuck it. Better than Page.
December 12th, 2011 at 4:19 PM
oh no doubt.
December 12th, 2011 at 4:48 PM
Better than Page.
oh no doubt.
Zeppelin hater.
December 13th, 2011 at 9:17 AM
As a Broncos fan who lived through the McDaniels nightmare, I say go for it Pioli! Can’t wait to see him ruin another franchise.