Roundup: Remembering Pearl Harbor, Marquette & Missouri Remain Unbeaten & the Cabin in the Woods Trailer
Jennifer Love Hewitt … remembering Pearl Harbor … doubt you’ll find a more amazing recovery story than this … give the death penalty to the sick bastard who did this … reminder: I don’t like Wal-mart at all … this Sketchy Bunnies tumblr could give you nightmares … sent in by a Republican reader … two attractive models in Miami wearing thongs while hanging with their children … Rick Santorum has some thoughts on gay marriage … you’ll click: “Weird Fish With Transparent Head” … students at BYU (Idaho) are no longer allowed to wear skinny jeans … did Tom Cruise pay Indian kids to cheer for him in Mumbai? … one of the Real Housewives has checked into rehab …
Marquette 79, Washington 77 in a thriller at MSG. The Golden Eagles won it on a 3-pointer with :06 left. [JS Online]
More people watched the Big Ten Championship than the Oklahoma State vs. Oklahoma game. [Ratings!]
“One of the great things about working for Yahoo! Sports is that there is no reason to pretend a 35-game bowl onslaught is a truly delightful way to finish the season.” [Forde]
A contrite Ben Howland finally admits to making some mistakes. [LA Times]
All 8 of Jerry Sandusky’s victims will testify against him in court next week. [ABC News]
Will Festus Ezeli return for Vanderbilt tonight against Davidson? [Tennessean]
“The top U.S. aviation safety official resigned on Tuesday over a drunken driving charge.” [Reuters]
Chelsea vs. Man U the morning of the NFC title game? I can dig that. [Fang's Bites]
Missouri is still unbeaten after an 81-71 victory over a pretty mediocre Villanova team. [SI]
Very good feature on quirky writer Gene Weingarten. [Washingtonian]
Not really surprised this guy voted for Montee Ball for Heisman. [JS Online]
Reading between the lines, it doesn’t sound like Marc Gasol wants to return to the Grizzlies. [Commercial Appeal]
Anyone else pumped for Harvard vs. Connecticut Thursday? [Courant]
What the Marlins are doing is making the Mets look terrible. The Wilpons need to go. [Post]
So the Cabin in the Woods looks … decent?
Billy Idol rapping in an IKEA commercial? Sure.
Shaq got a piggy-back ride from his tiny girlfriend on the Jimmy Kimmel show.
This will end up ranking as one of the biggest hits of the NHL season, probably. [via Hot Clicks]
At the 1:30 mark, the obese woman sits on him; at 2:30, they start trading slaps. He smokes a cigarette. At the 6:00 mark, she gets off of him. It’s all pretty awful.
At least four people sent this in. Note: This is one of my top five Christmas songs.
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December 7th, 2011 at 8:15 AM
Any morning with JLH is a good morning. Solid roundup TBL.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:17 AM
My dad was born on Dec. 7. Would have been 63 today.
For some reason, Pearl Harbor day reminds me of “Airplane.”
He was killed over Nacho Grande.
Over Nacho Grande?
No, I’m afraid I’ll never get over Nacho Grande.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:18 AM
JLH, Oh Baby.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:23 AM
At the 1:30 mark, the obese woman sits on him; at 2:30, they start trading slaps. He smokes a cigarette. At the 6:00 mark, she gets off of him. It’s all pretty awful.
you fail to mention now marvelously straight his hair is. It’s really something to behold.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:23 AM
dude, they were fucked by madoff at the same time they opened a new park. the mets aren’t afraid to spend if the cash flow is there.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:28 AM
Mantis, I’m sure at least 5 people will say we’re over doing it with Chewitt.
You can’t win, Rocky!
December 7th, 2011 at 8:28 AM
“All Alone On Christmas” is THE top Christmas song of all time. The fact it appears in both Home Alone 2 and Love Actually is also a nice little bonus.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:31 AM
no doubt. although lots of criminals deserve the DP, too few will get it. Hooray for texas and virginia though. at least someone’s got some balls.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:32 AM
i also find your critique of the mets silly, since you want a salary cap and with no floor.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:32 AM
Alan Taylor (the guy formerly behind The Big Picture) at The Atlantic ran a 20-part WWII photo retrospective throughout 2011. The Pearl Harbor series is terrifying and astonishing at the same time.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:36 AM
I’ve always felt Home Alona 2 was better that the first one. I may be alone on this, but I don’t care.
/suck brick kid
December 7th, 2011 at 8:37 AM
Since both myself and the other mantis are huge fans of JLH, I say keep the pics coming. Fuck the haters.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:37 AM
One of the rare times I’ll be rooting against a Big East basketball team. This is gotta’ be Amaker’s last year at Harvard…I think he gets another chance at a major program.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:37 AM
My grandpa is a pearl harbor survivor.
Damn that technology making our economy more efficient and erasing mindless bank teller jobs! Obama is truly an economic illiterate.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:37 AM
agree. i was talking with someone this morning about Pearl Harbor and WW11. Wars are obviously different today, but do you think Americans would make sacrifices similar to those back in the 40s? Like melting down jewelry for ammo? I guess it is an impossible question to answer, since today is so vastly different than back then.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:39 AM
Wow Queefer, that is an incredible collection of history right there. I won’t be getting shit done for awhile.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:42 AM
Desperate times back then. WWII basically put an end to the Great Depression in America.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:43 AM
Well we were told to “go shopping” after 9/11 instead of making shared sacrifices, so I would say no to this point. ‘Mericans are too materialistic and self-centered to truly sacrifice if a non-nuclear war were to arise.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:45 AM
Why is Bradley Whitford in that piece of shit?
/according to IMDB
December 7th, 2011 at 8:45 AM
And as expected, they are completely idiotic.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:47 AM
I still get a chuckle when I Google Santorum.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:48 AM
“ahem…what you clean up after the gay marriage is consummated is not me and i’d appreciate it if people stopped calling it that.”
December 7th, 2011 at 8:49 AM
The only chick you have overdone who sucks was that elf Taylor Swift. But we all can’t bat 1.000.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:49 AM
Haha that is great
December 7th, 2011 at 8:49 AM
it’s incredibly easy to answer…FUCK NO.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:50 AM
The Marlins want to overpay for a SS who while a great player, is a streaky hitter and gets injured all the time. And apparently Hanley doesn’t want to move to third and wants a trade so they isolated one of their best players. Now how do the Mets come out looking terrible in this?
December 7th, 2011 at 8:50 AM
I just googled him. Interesting.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:50 AM
Not IMO. We’re stuck with the Occupy mindset, not the “Let me help” mindset. Seems to me younger generation doesn’t actually believe in anything, especially having to fight for our freedom.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:51 AM
reminder: I don’t like Wal-mart at all …
Still the cheapest place to buy fishing gear.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:51 AM
Is it the 2 million people it employs, or the $7 billion in taxes it pays annualy that offends you so much?
/have never seen a Wal-Mart in the city, let alone shopped at one
December 7th, 2011 at 8:52 AM
Apply this statement not just to the younger generation, but to all Americans under the age of 70. Everyone is materialistic and self-centered.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:52 AM
are we supposed to give a shit?
December 7th, 2011 at 8:52 AM
http://thestudentreview.org/2011/12/06/byu-idaho-bans-skinny-jeans/
About time somebody started doing something about the emo problem in this country.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:53 AM
lol.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:54 AM
reminder: I don’t like Wal-mart at all …
are we supposed to give a shit? Spencer
This is where TBL will go Costco > Wal-Mart even though they are two different kinds of stores.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:54 AM
I think some people are painting with a little bit of a broad brush. I think if a conflict broke out on a global scale there would be a good segment on the American people that would make sacrifices, perhaps not as much as back in WWII but enough to make a difference.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:54 AM
He doesn’t know what a Sams Club is.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:55 AM
More people watched a more competitive and entertaining game than the Oklahoma State vs. Oklahoma game.
//Fixed
December 7th, 2011 at 8:55 AM
my parents talk about Costco like people used to do Amway. They love that fucking place.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:56 AM
I think this is stretching it a bit. My parents generation (the 70 year olds) most def do not think like our 30 and belows do. Not even close.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:56 AM
So the Cabin in the Woods looks … decent?
I can’t speak for how the actual movie will turn out, but they totally ripped off Dead Snow for the trailer.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:56 AM
This. Old people always like to paint with a broad brush. If they don’t its difficult to see.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:57 AM
I agree.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:57 AM
Decent seems too nice…”not horrible” is how I would describe it…it looks like 10000 other movies that have already been made.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:57 AM
People in Costco are animals.
/Team Sam’s Club
December 7th, 2011 at 8:58 AM
what’s your point? that article was kind of pointless. Wal-Mart is a big business. if they weren’t the biggest, someone else would be.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:58 AM
Yep. I’m sure people in 1935 were saying, “Wow the people today would never make the sacrifices they made in WW1 / Civil War / Revolutionary War…”
People adjust.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:58 AM
my parents talk about Costco like people used to do Amway. They love that fucking place.
We have both Costco and Sam’s Club up here. I know few people who can enter and leave without dropping a couple hundred bucks. We used to go to Sam’s Club when the boy was in diapers. Cheap cheap cheap. And free food samples. There is sort of a cultish aspect to their devoted followers.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:59 AM
BJs > Sam’s
/in all senses of the term
December 7th, 2011 at 9:00 AM
BJs > Sam’s
/in all senses of the term
I, too, prefer blowjobs to haircuts.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:01 AM
thank him for his service. my parents took us to Hawaii when I was about 11 or 12 and we visited Pearl Harbor. that place is fascinating, especially to me as a young kid. still remember it pretty vividly. what they went through that day is unimaginable.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:06 AM
most def do not think like our 30 and belows do. Not even close.
People have been saying this exact quote about the younger generation since the beginning of time. Please don’t associate the under-30 crowd with the occupy wall street people. We don’t all think like that. I
December 7th, 2011 at 9:06 AM
Its the ugly people that shop there, TBL lives in a beautiful peoples world.
My grandpa hated all asians because he served in the pacific. Like would break into cursing tirades if an asian (they were all Japanese to him) cut him off in traffic. Ahhh, old people.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:09 AM
It’s tempting to use the 9/11 “go shopping” nonsense as evidence that Americans couldn’t pull together, but there was no tangible enemy on 9/11. Our way of life wasn’t at stake. Germany and Japan wanted to take over the entire world. Japan had just taken out almost the entire Pacific fleet. Americans were pissed and knew they could join the armed forces and actually fight for something, as opposed to wandering around the desert not really sure who the bad guy is. That’s a simplistic view that doesn’t address a lot of other issues (the Depression, WWI wounds, etc), but it addresses at least part of the issue.
I do often wonder what WWII veterans think of my generation (I’m 29) and the one behind me. I feel like we let them down in a lot of ways.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:09 AM
Formula. Best prices on that smelly, expensive stuff anywhere.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:11 AM
My grandfather was also in WWII. He got in trouble with my grandmother once while talking to my brother about how nice the German women were.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:11 AM
If you combine the developments in technology and the outsourcing of middle-class jobs with Bush-era tax cuts, is our economy really that much more efficient? I means besides for a small percentage of people?
December 7th, 2011 at 9:12 AM
Formula. Best prices on that smelly, expensive stuff anywhere.
Oh, yeah. Similac. I was so glad when the boy quit formula almost immediately after turning one.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:12 AM
How dare you, sir!
/Team Costco
December 7th, 2011 at 9:13 AM
Ha! There’s a wartime exception for that though right? Like if I thought I could die tomorrow I would definitely get down on some frauleins.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:14 AM
Every generation is different and thinks they had it tougher than the one that came after it.
The generation before the WWII generation probably thought that group was soft.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:15 AM
American soldiers spoke highly of the German people. Sort of a mutual respect thing.
The German women, though, had a bad time of it around April-May 1945. The Russians were, ah, not kind when they arrived. Understandable, but still….
December 7th, 2011 at 9:15 AM
Formula. Best prices on that smelly, expensive stuff anywhere.
thank God for my wifes bewbs. we havent had to use much formula yet.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:16 AM
Say what you want about Lady Gaga, but from the neck down she’s got something going for her. Too bad the neck up is the way it is. (NSFW)
December 7th, 2011 at 9:16 AM
Or at least kiss a kleiner Junge if it got a couple frauleins to make out.
/coop
December 7th, 2011 at 9:16 AM
The Russians were not even kind to their own people back then.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:17 AM
Formula. Best prices on that smelly, expensive stuff anywhere.
Wal-Mart is the least expensive for diapers/formula/kid’s clothes here. Nice to pay less than $5 for a pair of kid’s T’s and sweats that he seemingly grows out of in a couple weeks.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:17 AM
I’ve been there. Very somber and surreal feeling when your walking around the Arizona Memorial.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:18 AM
Free would have been better. Neither boy really wanted that product much, though.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:18 AM
that photo used up all the air in the brush.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:18 AM
We had Teddy! A great leader. He taught men how to be men. Now these young whipper snappers are left with Teddy’s idiot cousin to run the country, standing around waiting for someone to hand them soup. Back in our day we hunted.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:19 AM
It’s not so much the toughness, but the lack of perspective combined with the laziness and general apathy most young people have toward anything. We’ll whine when our phone can’t access the internet in two seconds, or berate a waitress for bringing us regular coke instead of diet. These dudes fought on islands in 100 degree heat with no water, boiled in the deserts of Africa, and froze during horrible European winters.
If I fought in WWII and heard some hispter bitching that his barista used skim milk instead of soy, I’d break his fucking arm in three places.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:19 AM
a definable, tangible enemy will make that happen.
I think our leaders let them down more than any generation following them did.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:20 AM
you hit on my feelings exactly. well said.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:20 AM
Same here.
This was before he was even married to her. Too funny.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:21 AM
And we wore an onion on our belt, which was the style at the time.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:21 AM
+1
December 7th, 2011 at 9:22 AM
There were people in the 1940′s who shirked and many people today would shirk the call; Many people in the 40′s rose to the occasion, and many today would feel the call, but likely not as high a percentage. America was not a super-power before WWII and life had not been as nice here as other parts of the world. Lots of people had never left their hometowns before taking the bus to sign up.
People weren’t leaving cable TV, shopping malls, over-stuffed fridges, and Wii gaming systems. They left rural areas and cities centered around factories.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:22 AM
If you got about 8 minutes, give this a look…. Re: War on Christmas.
This is funny, and you might just learn something!
December 7th, 2011 at 9:23 AM
The only way I’d feel like I let anyone down is if I didn’t take advantage of the opportunities their hard work afforded me.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:24 AM
I honestly have hope that our generation will be better than the baby boomer generation.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:25 AM
I’ve always given Saban a pass for being an asshole, as whatever he was/is doing seem(s)to be working at the college level and he’s had a lot of success. But that story out of Miami from the former player is simply reprehensible. I don’t know how someone can act like that.
Exhibit A of college coach hero worship gone awry.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:26 AM
And we wore an onion on our belt, which was the style at the time.
+1 Hellfish Bonanza.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:26 AM
my morning jacket tonight. i have a giant music boner.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:27 AM
Yes, because self preservation always wins, and it was that desperate back then. People forget that many of the WWII generation didn’t think we could beat the Germans, either. The myth of the American arrogance fromt that era has been overplayed. I would suggest Ken Burns’ WWII PBS show. It was out of this world good.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:27 AM
Hate to break up all this war talk but was anyone as disappointed as I was with Sons last night?
December 7th, 2011 at 9:28 AM
Way off subject but did anyone see the long island serial killer show on a&e? Awesome shit. Craigslist pimps drivers heroin hookers. Insane.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:28 AM
she looks like a rabbit.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:28 AM
Mantis, I’m sure at least 5 people will say we’re over doing it with Chewitt.
Not me. Moar JLH please!
December 7th, 2011 at 9:28 AM
I’ve always given Saban a pass for being an asshole, as whatever he was/is doing seem(s)to be working at the college level and he’s had a lot of success. But that story out of Miami from the former player is simply reprehensible. I don’t know how someone can act like that.
Link?
December 7th, 2011 at 9:29 AM
This is another good point. It was less of a culture shock to 1940s Americans who were just beginning to see the end of the Depression and were just 25 years removed from WWI. Different standard of living.
We also forget how little most Americans had seen of the world. Going to fight in Europe or the Pacific was an exotic, thrilling adventure to them.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:29 AM
Anyone ready to give up on Hell On Wheels?
I think I hate every character.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:30 AM
This. Our Generation will suffer through a lot of problems created by the boomers and spend a lot of time trying to fix that. Anyone older complaining about the 20-30 crowd and trying to blame them for the problems right now is an idiot. IMO.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:30 AM
If you have never been to a Wal-Mart, it explains your fervent defense of them. They make the DMV seem like a vacation.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:30 AM
they did a good job of tucking her dick away in that picture too.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:31 AM
What’s the Walmart link? Won’t load, I’m assuming something about TBL hating fat people?
December 7th, 2011 at 9:31 AM
How dare they not overpay for an injury prone player!
December 7th, 2011 at 9:31 AM
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/evans-saban-stepped-over-convulsing-player-29919
December 7th, 2011 at 9:31 AM
Finally some real discussion. Yes. Very underwhelming and cheap.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:32 AM
Probably not fair, but I refuse to believe anything SBB has ever said.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:32 AM
I made it through about half of the last episode before asking myself why I’m still watching.
AMC’s kinda sucked lately with TWD, The Killing, and now Hell on Wheels. Or maybe it’s just that I’m still bitter they canceled Rubicon.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:33 AM
Thanks scuba
December 7th, 2011 at 9:33 AM
Not to mention we got our ass kicked early and often. Of all the armies taking place in that war, Germany’s was the best, most efficient overall fighting force by a lot. That’s not a popular sentiment, but its true. The Allies simply had more manpower and resources by the end of the war. But straight up, Germany would have whooped us. Shit, if Hitler had left the tactical decisions to the generals Germany would have done a lot better than it did. Normandy would have almost certainly failed.
Ken Burns’ The War is amazing.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:33 AM
SoA season finale? Meh.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:34 AM
Finally some real discussion. Yes. Very underwhelming and cheap.
Awful, it cheapend the previous two episodes. Both of which were better than the finale
December 7th, 2011 at 9:34 AM
This is odd, but if you go to a Wal Mart at like 8am or very early, it’s not bad. All the freaks with the angst and drama they carry – do not arrive for sometime. They are all busy sleeping in and being the freaks they are.
That said, I largely avoid the store as it’s too much drama, bad for the local economy. I only go there to buy my grama a certain kind of yarn she likes, which only they carry.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:34 AM
Probably not fair, but I refuse to believe anything SBB has ever said.
Story was confirmed by Greg Bedard on twitter… who wrote/writes for the Miami Herald or Sun Sentinel.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:35 AM
This. I don’t even want to think about The Killing.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:35 AM
Exactly. Our generation (born in 1975 onward) will have to pay for so many of the mistakes of the previous one. If 60 year olds are pissed at the way the country is, they ought to look in the mirror just as much as they glare at us.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:35 AM
Jennifer Love Hewitt has been in my top 5 for maybe the last 10 years or so.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:36 AM
Exactly my point. Studies have shown that the 30 and under generation actually has a very strong work ethic*, and growing up in this kind of economy will only reinforce good habits.
*The catch is that it has to be stimulating work that they’re interested in. They’re not mindless workers, happy to install a single part on an assembly line 1,000 times a day.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:36 AM
guns n roses, red hot chili peppers and beastie boys in the rock hall this year…not bad, not bad at all.
/feels old
December 7th, 2011 at 9:36 AM
It’s not so much the toughness, but the lack of perspective combined with the laziness and general apathy most young people have toward anything. We’ll whine when our phone can’t access the internet in two seconds, or berate a waitress for bringing us regular coke instead of diet. These dudes fought on islands in 100 degree heat with no water, boiled in the deserts of Africa, and froze during horrible European winters.
If I fought in WWII and heard some hispter bitching that his barista used skim milk instead of soy, I’d break his fucking arm in three places.
I completely agree with this. I wasn’t born here, but when I look back to when my family migrated over, and the opportunities that we are given, I am beyond grateful.
I honestly think a lot of our attitudes these days are based up lack of respect for the generations before us, lack of strong families, and spirituality. If that makes me sound like a nutjob Republican, so be it.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:36 AM
shit, I’ve finally almost caught up on the Vietnam in HD series, and it isn’t just WWII, it’s Vietnam as well. ‘Nam is a lot easier to relate to as well, for people our age at least. granted it wasn’t the same type of war, but those soldiers went through a lot of hell as well, and don’t seem to be nearly as celebrated as other vets because of the unpopularity of the war itself.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:36 AM
It’s not so much the toughness, but the lack of perspective combined with the laziness and general apathy most young people have toward anything
Holy broad brush batman. Yes, there are some lazy fucks that get attention by getting on TV, but there are plenty of older people on welfare not looking for jobs too. Just as there are plenty of young people busting there ass and working 2 jobs in a shitty economy.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:36 AM
That Atlantic link is great — hard to get through the Holocaust section. Wow.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:37 AM
Yea when it came down to it the creator of the show just did not have the balls to take it where it should have gone. Even though he spent a whole season pointing in that direction.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:37 AM
Those pictures are quite amazing and show the reality of what was going on when the Japanese attacked. This photo of the burnt Japanese pilot is ghastly
December 7th, 2011 at 9:37 AM
Well said. Just like the North in the Civil War, it’s not so much who has the better generals, but who has the most amount of pawns. But like you said, that’s not a popular statement to make.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:37 AM
don’t forget the draft, many people signed up to pick their branch of the military to avoid being drafted.
the way wars are fought now, if there was ever another draft, we’d be in the shit pretty bad if it gets to that. our military may not have as many active soldiers, but it’s the most advanced in the world and there are few that can challenge that.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:38 AM
This. Our Generation will suffer through a lot of problems created by the boomers and spend a lot of time trying to fix that. Anyone older complaining about the 20-30 crowd and trying to blame them for the problems right now is an idiot. IMO.
I believe this as well. The Baby Boomers and the Hippie Generation have helped piss away much of America’s late 20th century. Hopefully Gen Xers and GenYers can fix things. Christ help me if I have to depend on the Millenials for answers…
/part of the problem’d
December 7th, 2011 at 9:38 AM
No more Jennifer Love Chewitt please, unless the pics are from 13 years ago.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:38 AM
she’s great, no doubt about it.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:38 AM
This. Our Generation will suffer through a lot of problems created by the boomers and spend a lot of time trying to fix that. Anyone older complaining about the 20-30 crowd and trying to blame them for the problems right now is an idiot. IMO
This… if we’re going to use broad brushes, I was still in high school and college when people were taking out 6 credit cards and buying houses they couldn’t afford from people their age who were selling these houses to people they knew couldn’t afford them. Thanks guys!
December 7th, 2011 at 9:38 AM
it’s all about when you go with wal-mart. sunday mornings, before the church crowd gets in there, when all the produce/bread/shelves are fresh stocked and not picked over you can get in and out pretty quick and not deal with all the bs.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:39 AM
The picture of Oppenheimer in silhouette inspecting the bomb is the wallpaper on my work computer. The greatest photo ever taken in my opinion. Eat a dick Pakistani bitch.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:39 AM
Yes, yes she does
December 7th, 2011 at 9:40 AM
Yeah. We have this great idea for a fight between the two main characters. Let’s let it drag on. Forever!
December 7th, 2011 at 9:40 AM
Great roundup. Could someone please start a Tumblr page with the Elf on the Shelf doll in all kinds of naughty places? Like at a casino, or on the set of a p0rn movie, stuff like that? I’d love to do this but I don’t have the time or the skillz.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:41 AM
What a letdown…was disappointed after about 5 minutes into it
December 7th, 2011 at 9:41 AM
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/evans-saban-stepped-over-convulsing-player-29919
Thanks, what a scumbag. Always hated him, always will
December 7th, 2011 at 9:41 AM
*The catch is that it has to be stimulating work that they’re interested in. They’re not mindless workers, happy to install a single part on an assembly line 1,000 times a day.
There. That RIGHT there is the problem. You don’t want to be a ditch digger, fucking work hard in school and get a good degree; you can’t have a good job or a career if you bitch and complain, and not work at it. Guess what, not everyone will be a doctor, lawyer, engineer, banker, etc. You try your best and then go with what you have.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:42 AM
well, if a certain legendary field general didn’t decide to go home and visit his wife, Normandy could have been different.
Germany was very efficient when facing a european continent shocked by their attacks, but once everyone got their shit together and went on the offensive they weren’t as efficient
December 7th, 2011 at 9:42 AM
Every time I see pictures from the Holocaust, I hate Germany even more. That’s probably not right, but I can’t help it. What a bunch of fucking mosters.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:42 AM
No one is allowed to say anything about SONS until I watch it tonight.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:42 AM
Bob Feller signed up for the Navy the day after Pearl Harbor.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:43 AM
Does this count?
December 7th, 2011 at 9:43 AM
fucking work hard in school and get a good degree
That’s what the older generations told us our entire lives… and now it’s not good enough for a lot of people who are underemployed. It’s no wonder people are pissed off.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:43 AM
Anyone else notice that they have a WARNING before showing any photos of dead American soldiers, but the Holocaust ones have no such warning? I find that strange, and a bit upsetting, actually.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:44 AM
Or, more accurately, when they tried to fight a war on two fronts, one of which was in Russia.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:45 AM
IT’S JUST THAT EASY FOLKS, I READ IT ON THE INTERNET!
December 7th, 2011 at 9:45 AM
I’d look at it the other way. If I’m a boss that hires some GenY’s for an entry level position, instead of having them do data entry or filing, I’m involving them on problem solving discussions, and asking their opinions on different topics.
It may sound obvious, but that kind of managerial style was not how many older generations were brought up with.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:45 AM
WWII veterans? What did they ever do for me?
/vezina’d
December 7th, 2011 at 9:46 AM
Yea when it came down to it the creator of the show just did not have the balls to take it where it should have gone. Even though he spent a whole season pointing in that direction.
This.
I really hope they end the show after the next season. Any more than that will be overstaying its welcome
December 7th, 2011 at 9:46 AM
and growing up in this kind of economy will only reinforce good habits.
i dont agree with that. we havent had to really re think any of our habits, from wall street on down. those pricks are still bonusing out the ass on new debt instruments that are very risky (i see it all the time), and we still spend billions for xmas.
no one, i mean no one, has shown any real accountability during this mess. i think we all need our little systems to be shocked- raise taxes, force the banks to create a bad asset pool, no more bailouts.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:46 AM
Prepare your anus. Kurt Sutter bends you over and goes to poundtown. At least J
December 7th, 2011 at 9:46 AM
Justified is coming back soon.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:46 AM
if they put up warnings a lot of people would skip them… which shouldn’t happen.
but current mass genocide is always ignored anyway, so not many lessons learned, unfortunately.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:47 AM
Caribou – Yes. Yes it does.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:47 AM
Every time I see pictures from the Holocaust, I hate Germany even more. That’s probably not right, but I can’t help it. What a bunch of fucking mosters.
It’s interesting… I was hanging out with some really cool Germans in Milwaukee a couple of years ago over the fourth of July… they were over here to get their engineering degrees…really smart/fun/etc. Anyways, they were a little shocked by how much everyone was celebrating the country’s past on the fourth with flags/fireworks, etc. They told me “yeah, we don’t really fly a lot of flags in Germany, or do much celebrating like this.” I changed the subject pretty quickly because it was obvious they were uncomfortable… I felt bad. Don’t know how accurate that is, just what 4 or 5 people told me.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:47 AM
I mean, Russia was able to stave off German attacks because they were/Stalin was willing to sacrifice 23 million people to do so. German soldiers “outkilled” Russians something like 6-to-1, but just couldn’t replenish their ranks like the Soviets could.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:47 AM
one of which was in Russia.
They badly underestimated the effect of the brutal Russian winter.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:48 AM
I defy anyone to look at these pics and not laugh. A lot. Dammit that’s some funny stuff.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:48 AM
December 7th, 2011 at 9:48 AM
I still haven’t watched the latest one, but I kind of like it. then again, I don’t watch a ton of shows so maybe I am easy to please.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:49 AM
Wow I really Britta’d those last two posts.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:49 AM
well, if a certain legendary field general didn’t decide to go home and visit his wife, Normandy could have been different.
Bullshit. The Americans did do a great deal of work to lead the Germans to believe we were coming over at Calais, the narrowest point and much easier to attack, tactically. We also chose to attack without a full moon, in crappy weather and at Normandy. The Germans kept troops back because they thought a 2nd attack was coming at Calais. We did get some help as the crazy scattershot deployment of troops by air confused the Germans. However, Normandy was also the greatest military onslaught the world had ever seen, with scope unprecedented in warfare. Took some stones for DDE to decide to attack in the manner he did. He did not have unilateral support at the time.
Give the Allies a little credit though.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:49 AM
not a fan of the beastie boys.
/yeah, I said it.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:49 AM
You don’t want to be a ditch digger, fucking work hard in school and get a good degree
This is a joke dude. Cmon.
/3 brothers with “good” degrees from a decent school. 2 out of 3 unemployed
December 7th, 2011 at 9:49 AM
My anus is lubed up and ready.
/in a good way’d
December 7th, 2011 at 9:49 AM
I remember one german film director in awe of the flags here. He said if they were in Germany and saw that much nationalism/patriotism they would call the police due to the Hitler era. Pretty fucked up when you think about it.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:49 AM
Anyone ready to give up on Hell On Wheels?
not yet. i am a sucker for western/bourbon/spitting/indian based shows.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:50 AM
I quit on Hell on Wheels after the second episode. I thought it was going to be about the guy and Common going on the run, not a story about middle management in the Old West.
I was hoping it would make me less angry about Deadwood getting cancelled, instead it made me miss it more.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:50 AM
In the beginning part of this decade, right up until the financial crises of 2007, the savings rate in this country dipped into the negatives. The past few years, it soared to over 6%, which was the highest rate in a generation. People are doing things differently.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:50 AM
My dad signed up for the Army after Pearl Harbor. He was patriotic, sure, like most everyone who did — but he was also a poor kid who grew up in the oilfields. The service was his escape from a dead-end life. He, and others like him, simply didn’t have the options, employment or education-wise, that are available today.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:50 AM
He said if they were in Germany and saw that much nationalism/patriotism they would call the police due to the Hitler era. Pretty fucked up when you think about it.
Kind of eye opening really. We are pretty full of ourselves.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:51 AM
/pours one out for Community
December 7th, 2011 at 9:51 AM
IT’S JUST THAT EASY FOLKS, I READ IT ON THE INTERNET!
You know what, it IS that easy. BTW, I didn’t read it, I WROTE it. I came up with this brilliant gem of an idea that no one ever thought of.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:52 AM
Hitler thought it was coming there. The generals were split. Hitler wanted to keep reinforcing the Atlantic Wall.
But your overall point is right on — the Allies deserve a ton of credit for Normandy, which was ambitious as fuck. Failure to establish a Euro foothold that June probably would have extended the war another two years.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:52 AM
We have plenty to celebrate, they have shit. Might explain it…
December 7th, 2011 at 9:52 AM
Part of that is the feudal history of Europe in general. I know many in Italy more closely identify themselves with their city and region before the country as a whole.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:52 AM
Reading between the lines, it doesn’t sound like Marc Gasol wants to return to the Grizzlies. [Commercial Appeal]
To me, it seemed like Heisley wants to cut it close on Gasol’s contract. He has been a penny-pinching goober for a while now. Heisley wants to pay market value plus a dollar, no more. He can’t afford a bidding war with other teams over Gasol.
Last year’s roster gelled. I really, really hope they can be a more-consistent team this year. Gason is a key part of that.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:53 AM
I like the show but you are absolutely right re: the fight scene.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:53 AM
Anyone watch that John Stewart link?
/crickets
Anyways, I found it pretty funny that Christmas was persecuted during that golden era of “our founding fathers”
//wanking motion
December 7th, 2011 at 9:53 AM
You realize how insanely shitty the job market is for college graduates now, right? The vast majority of Bachelor’s degrees are useless these days anyway.
Part of the problem is that my parents’ generation had WAY too many children and that there’s a fetishistic ideal of going to college. Not everyone needs to go to college.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:53 AM
No more Jennifer Love Chewitt please, unless the pics are from 13 years ago.
Get the banhammer, TBL!
December 7th, 2011 at 9:53 AM
Where’d ya’ come from?
I’m gonna’ hafta’ check out the Burns WWII series.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:54 AM
Germans are pretty awesome and engaging folks in my experience, but there’s a reason my stepdad always jokingly (kinda) says “don’t talk about the war!”
December 7th, 2011 at 9:54 AM
I have a great 4-book WWII series my wife got me for Xmas several years ago. Stories from the Desert Fox, Fall of Berlin, Enemy at the Gates. You are right about the German soldiers “outkilling” Russians. Those Russians were shooting their own people in the back when they jumping out of the boats crossing the Volga to Stalingrad to fight the Germans. Crazy fockin people.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:55 AM
The past few years, it soared to over 6%, which was the highest rate in a generation. People are doing things differently.
i think that rate is based on cash that moved into FDIC insured banks, which isnt a true measure of savings. alot of people cashed out of what stocks etc they had and moved the cash into a savings account at a bank. further, most of that increase in the cash position in banks had to do with people in better financial positions moving their money around.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:55 AM
w00t!
December 7th, 2011 at 9:55 AM
It did wonders for this guy.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:55 AM
So why aren’t our youngsters who are in such dire economic straits joining up? Allegedly they meet the criteria you describe.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:56 AM
You realize how insanely shitty the job market is for college graduates now, right? The vast majority of Bachelor’s degrees are useless these days anyway.
Part of the problem is that my parents’ generation had WAY too many children and that there’s a fetishistic ideal of going to college. Not everyone needs to go to college.
Exactly, and I’ll add that a lot of younger people took out 10′s of thousands of dollars in loans so they could go to school and get this education that was reinforced into our heads that would be the ticket to a decent job. And now they’re fucked because they’re making $9.00 an hour without benefits and can’t afford that extra car payment that is their student loan every month.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:56 AM
The lesson about fighting the Russians in Russia is: don’t.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:56 AM
pretty sure that is exactly what keeps me going as well. love all that shit.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:57 AM
He said if they were in Germany and saw that much nationalism/patriotism they would call the police due to the Hitler era
Part of the reason the terrorists were able to achieve the Munich Olympic attack was because the Germans were so intent on having the nation appear to have a relaxed police state. There was little security.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:57 AM
My grandfather enlisted for the same reasons. He was from a podunk town in south Georgia and the military was his out. He traveled the world, living in Hawai’i, DC and all over Europe. Met his wife in France and has story and story.
I watched it last night and laughed. Imagine what Fox News would say if Congress went into session on Christmas day? Jesus. They would literally implode into an entirely new dimension of gasbaggery. It’s amazing how terrible that network is.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:57 AM
My problem is that the show feels incredibly…inauthentic.
Agree with this 100%.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:57 AM
A lot of the kids who join the service still do come from economically depressed situations. That hasn’t really changed.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:58 AM
I’m just glad I busted my ass in high school and saved a ton of money so I was able to escape taking on any huge loans to get through school. Some people I know aren’t so lucky, and I have no idea how they’re going to pay back 150,000 in loans.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:58 AM
not yet. i am a sucker for western/bourbon/spitting/indian based shows.
pretty sure that is exactly what keeps me going as well. love all that shit.
i could watch shows on indians for days. they were badasses. i wonder if there is any documentary on amercian indians back then? i dont recall one.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:58 AM
That right there. Oddly enough, world needs ditch diggers, line folks and various other positions.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:58 AM
that was a dark day indeed.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:59 AM
well they areeeeeeeeeeeee cutting back now. I think it would be nearly impossible for me to get back in the Marine Corps if I wanted to.
/realizes its always easier to come in as a fresh recruit than a prior service Marine
December 7th, 2011 at 9:59 AM
I’m going to buy that Ken Burns WWII thing on Amazon and save it for the next time I am sick.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:59 AM
Dude…enlistees are made up of exactly those people. Why do you think recruiters often go to the poor areas of town? Sure, you need to best and the brightest to lead the pawns, but pawns will always be needed.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:59 AM
Craig James thinks fighting Russia in Russia the best tactical decision of the last 1,000 years
December 7th, 2011 at 9:59 AM
They should all be moving to North Dakota and south Texas to work in the oil patch. Seriously.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:59 AM
They are. I’ve got military recruiters in my family and they target the poorer high schools like a fat white broad targets a drunk Latino guy at two in the morning.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:59 AM
So why aren’t our youngsters who are in such dire economic straits joining up? Allegedly they meet the criteria you describe.
Don’t we have hundred of thousands of people serving in the military right now? I’d venture a guess that the vast majority are doing it for the economic reasons and not solely for their love of their country or because they think the war in Afgansitan is worth fighting.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:00 AM
It’s amazing. Just…amazing.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:00 AM
/I was hoping it would make me less angry about Deadwood getting cancelled
//that was a dark day indeed.
So wait, they aren’t making those four 2-hour movies to complete the series?
Was a terrible, terrible day that they announced they had broken down the set.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:01 AM
I’m just glad I busted my ass in high school and saved a ton of money so I was able to escape taking on any huge loans to get through school. Some people I know aren’t so lucky, and I have no idea how they’re going to pay back 150,000 in loans.
Smart man. I have a number of friends who work to pay off those loans.
Not me tho.
/community college’d
December 7th, 2011 at 10:01 AM
You have Netflix? It’s streaming on there in HD.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:01 AM
Baby Boomers inherited everything as a generation and they pissed it away by being politically bought with their own shrinking wages. Fuck them. What a fucking legacy those ignorant fucks have left:
Rampant divorce
Political Corrects (fuck you cunts)
Bigotry (You were in the civil rights march and still compare gay marriage to bestiality fuck you)
Total fucking retards economically
Fucking suburb McMansions and gas guzzling SUV’s while bitching about gas prices all bought with a loan they could not afford
Given a loan they could not afford because they supported deregulated at all points
Shittier Food
‘Marijuana is teh devil but give me more Oxycontins’
College degrees for everyone!
They shat away their money on real estate speculation and shit they do not need, they cling uselessly in the workforce or bitch about their pension that I fucking pay with wages that have been stagnant since those cunts were getting high and spreading STD’s
December 7th, 2011 at 10:02 AM
I’d look at it the other way. If I’m a boss that hires some GenY’s for an entry level position, instead of having them do data entry or filing, I’m involving them on problem solving discussions, and asking their opinions on different topics.
Obviously, the military ain’t like the civilian sector on this aspect, but we in uniform have a hard time involving GenY on problem-solving, policy discussion, etc.
Most of ‘em haven’t enough experience and perspective to make a big difference. They have opinions, but most of the time they were opinions repeated from other GenY types.
Furthermore, if they brought up an idea that has already been tried/already failed AND they have no new viewpoint on the issue, it quickly becomes a waste of time.
GenY types are smart, no doubt. They can’t buy experience, however.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:02 AM
I have three degrees and a quarter million dollars in loans. What WHAT!
December 7th, 2011 at 10:03 AM
you’re misreading what i was responding to.
i responded to a comment about “if the war had been left to the generals instead of hitler”. it was left to the generals, and if Rommel had been in Normandy the outcome could have been different due to his skills as a tactical leader, that’s a fact.
it’s in no way me trying to take credit away from the allies. damn.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:03 AM
They also gave the 1972 Dolphins
December 7th, 2011 at 10:03 AM
soused is on to something.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:03 AM
Agree. There is no way one of my step-kids would make it through college. I am already steering her towards something else, and frankly it would make her happier anyway in the long run.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:04 AM
Not me tho.
/community college’d
//Good state school’d
Beyond me why anyone would go to a private university unless they got a full ride or the university specialized in something they 100% knew they’d be doing for a living (dentistry, etc.).
I’m flabbergasted at the people in my extended family that are currently going to a private school at 35K a year and have “undecided” majors? Like, what the fuck?
December 7th, 2011 at 10:04 AM
Standing O for 202.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:04 AM
Last I checked, the military was still taking people, and there are still folks complaining about no jobs. Actually there are a good percentage of people who realize it can be a smart move to join the military instead of go to college and take advantage of what the military offers. It’s not all out of desperation.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:04 AM
After soused uplifting outlook on life, I’m going to look at Paulina Gretzky.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:06 AM
…so basically everyone out of work needs to sign up? I don’t think that would work.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:06 AM
A lot of it is ego. I hope one day my daughter is qualified enough to get into Harvard. I really do. But if she got into Harvard or had a full ride to Georgia or Georgia Tech, that’s a tough call for me. If you are bright and driven, odds are you’ll be successful, but the connections made at the “elite” schools are hard to ignore.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:07 AM
Last I checked, the military was still taking people, and there are still folks complaining about no jobs.
Okay. So now if I’m laid off I immediately should just join the military? Seems reasonable.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:07 AM
Any experience?
/what i’ve noticed a lot of employers looked for. you probably already knew that
December 7th, 2011 at 10:08 AM
Soused you sound like a whiny bitch. Get it together. My father is a boomer and had the joy of getting drafted and serving the in the army for Vietnam. Many of the did. My dad and the bulk of people like him own their homes and live within their means, and most were took some civic pride. Blaming racial inequality on the boomers? Are your retarded?
I think you have the wrong generation pegged here. Way too broad a brush.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:08 AM
…instead of having them do data entry or filing…
Those jobs are necessary, also.
In addition, if they person doing that work really pays attention, they can learn enough about the organization’s processes to actually contribute in problem-solving discussions.
When I got to HQ AFSPC, I had no experience in space ops, logistics, requirements, etc. Had to learn it, and learned some of it by filing and some data entry. Asked questions in the midst of all that grunt work, to the point where I could take briefings to the Joint Staff and not look like a goober.
There is a reason we have entry level jobs. It helps those who don’t know what they are doing a low-pressure way to actually learn their duties.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:09 AM
That’s the difference and a huge reason of why the “go to school, work hard, you’ll be okay!” mantra is such simplistic horseshit. So so much of your path in life is impacted by the connections your family has made before you were born. And I know everyone has their exceptions stories, but this country is NOT a meritocracy and the people who suggest it is can fucking blow me.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:10 AM
Not saying everyone, but there are options out there. However most folks sense of entitlement leads them to believe they are too good to do certain things.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:10 AM
That’s the difference and a huge reason of why the “go to school, work hard, you’ll be okay!” mantra is such simplistic horseshit. So so much of your path in life is impacted by the connections your family has made before you were born.
My dad told me at a young age that “it’s not what you know, it’s who you know.” Couldn’t be more accurate.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:10 AM
it’s pretty reasonable, actually.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:10 AM
Bigotry (You were in the civil rights march and still compare gay marriage to bestiality fuck you)
Not related in any way.
Soused, I would love to chat with you off-line on your points. This isn’t the right forum for the discussion, though.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:10 AM
A broad brush, around here? nah
December 7th, 2011 at 10:11 AM
Honestly, I derived a lot of my work ethic from my dad (hardest working person I know) and when I worked for his construction company over the summers and the year after college. While everyone else goofed off after college and worked part-time jobs, I started work two days after I graduated and was up at 4:50am getting ready for work at 6:30-7am and working manual labor 8-10 hours a day, while studying for LSAT & applying to jobs at night. Guess that changed my perspective you could say.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:11 AM
Just curious, but what happens when you see pictures about the American slave trade? We (humans) are all capabable of horrific atrocities against each other, regardless of the nation we identify with. Call it original sin, human nature, or the natural way of things, man will always have that unsettling trait of inhumanity to fellow man.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:11 AM
Okay. So now if I’m laid off I immediately should just join the military? Seems reasonable.
it’s pretty reasonable, actually.
Not if you have a family. Come on man. It’s not even close to being reasonable to a vast majority of people.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:11 AM
I think I read a while back they put the kabosh on that whole deal.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:13 AM
Not if you have a family. Come on man. It’s not even close to being reasonable to a vast majority of people.
Sure it is. The military provides all kinds of benefits and a wage for your service. It would come down to this — are you more useful at home with no income? Or are you more useful away from home with income/benefits?
December 7th, 2011 at 10:13 AM
Interesting…
Tim McCarver just won the Ford C. Frick Award, given annually “for excellence in baseball broadcasting.”
December 7th, 2011 at 10:13 AM
I think I read a while back they put the kabosh on that whole deal.
I know. Sad times. When he did that John from Cincinatti he said it was game over.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:14 AM
Sure it is. The military provides all kinds of benefits and a wage for your service. It would come down to this — are you more useful at home with no income?
You’re acting like being separated from your family from 9 months at a time doesn’t count for anything.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:14 AM
Not sure how old you are, but how seriously did you consider it before/while in college? The current job market has been reality for a while now.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:15 AM
you can bring your family with you. the exception is basic training
December 7th, 2011 at 10:15 AM
you don’t have a family, therefore, it’s a reasonable option.
keyword…OPTION.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:15 AM
I made it through the first two paragraphs and had to stop. Whoever wrote that blog piece is an idiot who lacks basic comprehension skills.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:16 AM
you get money for basic housing allowance to live out in town or you live in base housing. its not an impossible task. you wouldnt be the first family man to join the military
December 7th, 2011 at 10:16 AM
is this happening in the real world or in Bizarro world?
December 7th, 2011 at 10:16 AM
the power of Gus Johnson!
/actually Big 10 Championship was the only non-blowout of the night
December 7th, 2011 at 10:16 AM
Okay. So now if I’m laid off I immediately should just join the military? Seems reasonable.
it’s pretty reasonable, actually.
Maybe, but you gotta bring some skill to the party. Depending on the service, certain skills are in high demand while others aren’t. Most services need security forces/infantry types (“grab a weapon and stand a post”). Most folk who aren’t in the service now may not want to do that.
It’s dirty, dangerous work. What I see in the Occupy movement and open-source media, most young folk really don’t want to do that type of work.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:16 AM
To add… your suggesting that if some financial planner is laid off he should immediately join the military as some sort of solution, instead of looking for another job that might keep him unemployed for a few months. Which I find ridiculous, but agree to disagree. If I’m laid off tomorrow, I’m not just going to go sign my life away for however long you’re required to sign your life away. I’m going to look for another job.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:16 AM
reasonable person: you know, you could wait tables if you need a job…
ATL_Badger: SO I HAVE TO IMMEDIATELY WAIT TABLES? WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE RESTAURANT CONNECTIONS? THIS COUNTRY IS SCREWED.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:17 AM
So true. The who you know, not what you know line is the most accurate cliche’ we employ.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:17 AM
It’s the job of good managers to give them that experience while challenging them.
No one ever said it’s easy.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:17 AM
You’re acting like being separated from your family from 9 months at a time doesn’t count for anything.
It’s reasonable because people do it all the time. If you have limited job prospects and need to support a family, the military is a resource that you would need to think about. Nine months away? Sure that is a price to pay — but in this hypothetical, it’s way better than unemployment.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:17 AM
*you’re
December 7th, 2011 at 10:18 AM
four years isn’t really signing your life away. not only that, but a potential future employer would probably look at those four years in the military in a favorable light.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:19 AM
ATL_Badger: SO I HAVE TO IMMEDIATELY WAIT TABLES? WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE RESTAURANT CONNECTIONS? THIS COUNTRY IS SCREWED.
Waiting tables is much more reasonable than living away from your family in a war zone for 9 months a year. I don’t know where you’re getting that from what I’m saying.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:19 AM
I don’t think anyone said walk from your former employers front door straight to the recruiting office. you’re reading into that just a little bit.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:20 AM
not only that, but a potential future employer would probably look at those four years in the military in a favorable light.
Seems that there are disproportional number of homeless veterans after they are discharged, if I understand what 60 minutes is telling me. But agree to disagree.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:20 AM
When talking about generations it has to be a broad brush it’s more efficient than listings the failures of each and every person. I said the boomers were right about racial equality but their are hypocritical when it comes to gay rights.
Home ownership is easy back than when you compare middle class wages in the 70′s with middles class wages versus housing prices today. Boomer generation is directly responsible for the gap between rich and poor (abetted by my generations shitty voting record which has been true of every generations young voters).
Your Dad sounds great but extrapolating his virtues as towards his generation is a small sample size in an ocean of boomer idiots selfishly destroying the society and economy they inherited.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:20 AM
It’s a tougher call if you have a wife/family. Take me, for example. If I get laid off tomorrow, I can’t go to the military in my mind as my daughter is being born in Feb. Missing her first four years simply isn’t an option for me. If I were single that could change, of course. The military is good for many people, but not everyone.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:21 AM
I don’t think anyone said walk from your former employers front door straight to the recruiting office. you’re reading into that just a little bit.
Vincent Vega seems to think that’s what all of us young whiners should do.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:21 AM
Obviously some of you never watched The Waltons.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:21 AM
In some ways that would point you TOWARDS attending a prestigious school, where you are probably surrounded by more people who can benefit you (financially) somewhere down the line.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:21 AM
Another problem. The idea that everyone has to own a house is one of the biggest reasons we’re in the mess we’re in.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:22 AM
It’s the job of good managers to give them that experience while challenging them.
No one ever said it’s easy.
Maybe, but for most mid-level managers, “challenging” subordinates isn’t the highest priority. Pleasing their own bosses oft-times becomes a highter priority.
My bosses in the military gave me challenging tasks, but job 1 was “get the mission done”. My skill development wasn’t the top priority.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:23 AM
There is so much shit in computing that can be self-taught that can make you employable. Learning a new trade or craft is not easy but hard work and better choices are the path to take. It’s often the poor financial decisions people make their unemployment so brutal.
I quit great work in sports marketing b/c the financial future I wanted wasnt there, and took a job in banking and clawed my way up, including 5 years of call center brutality. It is not easy. It never is. If you want the joy of a wife, kids and a house, shit will not be easy.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:23 AM
1. Mission accomplishment
2. Troop welfare
December 7th, 2011 at 10:24 AM
because you’re missing the point that joining the military is but one OPTION. if joining the military fits your lifestyle, it’s an incredibly viable option.
husker wouldn’t join the military because of his daughter, and that’s understandable. but im single and motivated in a field that sees a lot of turnover with fewer and fewer jobs available each year…the military would be a fantastic option for me.
being homeless is another option too. don’t hate.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:25 AM
Love that you complain about others reading in to what you say, and then you proceed to do just that. Good work.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:25 AM
Dont do drugs
dont piss off your friends and family
December 7th, 2011 at 10:26 AM
Assuming you don’t get sent to Afghanistan and die, get injured, or have such horrible PTSD that you can barely function as a normal human being.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:26 AM
need a job? sell pot.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:27 AM
because you’re missing the point that joining the military is but one OPTION.
Well of course it’s an option… I’m certainly not against it. I think it’s a great option if you’re single. The impression I got from vincent vega’s comment was, “what, you’re whining? Join the military if you don’t have a job!” Which I objected to, because as Husker pointed out, it’s really NOT reasonable for a lot (not all) of people.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:27 AM
If I saw the shit that many of those vets saw in ‘Nam, i’d wanna get high too. Add that to how they were treated when they got home, and I’d probably main line crack for the escape.
/just saying
December 7th, 2011 at 10:28 AM
Love that you complain about others reading in to what you say, and then you proceed to do just that. Good work.
Last I checked, the military was still taking people, and there are still folks complaining about no jobs.
Where did I put words in your mouth?
December 7th, 2011 at 10:28 AM
Claw your way up the corporate ladder and you can get that wife and kids and house you’ve always dreamed of!
December 7th, 2011 at 10:28 AM
Home ownership is easy back than when you compare middle class wages in the 70′s with middles class wages versus housing prices today
The prime rate in the early 70′s was almost 11% I believe. That’s easy? With most families on 1 income back then? Getting 20% down on a house is really hard. It always has been. I think there are global economic and market forces that will not allow the middle class the stay put. I don’t see it as the failure of a generation.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:29 AM
1. Mission accomplishment
2. Troop welfare
You got that right, Texans. That’s exactly what I am talking about. If I wanted that challenging opportunity, sometimes I had to seek it out on my own. If I waited for my boss to boost me whenever I wanted a challenge, I would have missed out on a third to a half of the interesting opportunities I’ve received.
And, many of my bosses boosted me because I was willing to be a self-starter (i.e., I didn’t wait for my boss to challege me). Many times, I had to take that first step, or the first three steps.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:32 AM
Yep. The fact is our government still treats veterans like shit once they’re out, both sides of the aisle. At least we’re making strides on PTSD being less taboo.
One of my good friends was Marine recon in Iraq and wants to go back because he can’t deal with the idea that he is trained to do it and shouldn’t let someone less experienced take his spot.
My family immigrated to America right before WWI and one member of every generation has been active duty. That fell to my brother because he fucked up his life so bad that he had no other option and would have wound up dead otherwise, it worked for him but it’s not an option I would consider at this point in my life (granted, I’m medically ineligible anyway).
December 7th, 2011 at 10:32 AM
Maybe it’s just your reading comprehension that’s so bad. I’d go ahead and plan now for that layoff if I were you.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:32 AM
Most of use are 1 pissed-off manager away from being out of work. I wish us all the best of luck in 2012.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:32 AM
Im just saying that there are some bad apples all over this world. A vet being homeless is probably due to the choices he made while in or after he got out.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:33 AM
Maybe it’s just your reading comprehension that’s so bad. I’d go ahead and plan now for that layoff if I were you.
Always a good way to clarify your point. YOU’RE DUMB YOU STUPID HEAD!
December 7th, 2011 at 10:34 AM
I’m glad we are going back and forth on this.
This needs to continue going on at a larger scale. Until we as a nation get off our butts and make some tough decisions, we will continue to founder.
We need people back to work. We also need to re-calibrate our spending habits. Do we really need $40K SUVs and $200 sneakers? On some level, let the market determine what we need and what we can truly afford. I can’t afford $200 sneakers, so I don’t buy them. It is that simple, sometimes.
Sometimes, we don’t need the newest, flashiest thing. There are times we need to do without, save, and get what we need versus whatever we think we want.
We have lost our way, but it can be straightened out. Time to shut up and step up.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:35 AM
Estimates are that at any given time there are over 100k homeless veterans on the streets of this country and there are 1.5 million more living below the poverty line. Double whammy group of 1) we don’t like to talk about poor people existing in America and 2) we don’t like to face the ugly consequences of our foreign policy.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:36 AM
Well if you haven’t understood my point thus far, then, well…
December 7th, 2011 at 10:37 AM
You have to factor in cost of living versus wages at the time.
Take a look a this chart and tell me when it would be easier to afford a home.
/With this said you not every should own a home I am just using it as an example of growing inequality
December 7th, 2011 at 10:38 AM
One of the things our country should be sorely ashamed of.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:40 AM
Well if you haven’t understood my point thus far, then, well…
What was your point exactly? “Last I checked, the military was still taking people, and there are still folks complaining about no jobs.”… Is a pretty cut and dry statement, one that I read as “if you are out of work, you should join the military.” I don’t think I’m a complete moron for getting the impression I did out of it, and for questioning whether or not that was feasible. Perhaps you didn’t mean it as a blanket statement, but that’s how it came across. This being the internet though, everyone’s quick to jump on the “you disagree with me or didn’t understand my poorly worded point, so I’m just going to dismiss you as a bumbling idiot instead of having a rationale conversation. It’s cool.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:41 AM
*rational
December 7th, 2011 at 10:41 AM
We only have to make it to December, then the world is ending anyway.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:41 AM
This needs to start in Washington. We don’t need to outspend the world 5 fold in defense spending. We just don’t. But whenever someone brings this up, people flip their shit with the same old tactics, claiming those who want cuts are anti-troops. We need to raise the retirement age for SS, but when someone says that, an opponent says they want to take checks away from the old ladies and gentleman and that’s unacceptable.
So what do we do instead? We trim some of the meaningless fat around the edge, like the fucking NPR money that isn’t a drop in the ocean compared to what we spend on everything else. It’s a joke. Neither side has the balls to make the real choices. The Tea Partiers won’t raise taxes (a must) and the left wont cut spending for their pet projects (another must). No side is for less government, they are just for less of their opponents’ government.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:42 AM
Diversify your bonds.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:45 AM
his point is “there’s an employer who’s hiring.”
whatever rationale you use to say that option isn’t really an option is a you problem.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:45 AM
This. Worse, our companies know that.
Also, slamming the Boomers for “pissing away what their fathers gave them” is pretty short-sighted. Like we didn’t or wouldn’t do the same things.
Boomers have a lot of advantages we don’t. You could survive on one income. You could work one job your entire career and retire at 60 with a great pension. You could live a quality life without having a college education. You could afford to buy a house and know it would triple in value in 30 years. That’s all gone now for all put a minuscule segment of the population, and I’m not really sure how that’s the fault of our fathers.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:46 AM
Soused I respect that income has flattened compared to COLA, absolutely. I would also agree that there is less wiggle room for lower-to-middle middle class financially in terms of home ownership. I just add that I see it as a result of market forces that are pulling on both ends, which makes moving upward economically vital. This can be done via reducing expenses or increasing income.
Do government decisions impact the market that drives the aforementioned trends. yes. Did “the boomers” vote record impact this, yes. But I don’t blame them entirely. I feel the frustration in your earlier post as well, but I just didn’t like the broad statements. Not to be rude but I have some things to attend to. Have a good one.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:47 AM
$51 billion worth of fast food was charged on personal credit and debit cards in 2006. You can look at this two ways:
1. Financial illiteracy
2. People are fucking poor
I would argue it’s both. Consumption is a small aspect of the problem, stagnant wages is the real problem. Rich people do not create jobs, people consuming products and services create jobs. If you can an entire group of people whose income goes to debt there will be less consumption and less jobs. I believe shutting up about this has led us here.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:47 AM
$51 billion worth of fast food was charged on personal credit and debit cards
Holy shit.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:47 AM
So what do we do instead? We trim some of the meaningless fat around the edge, like the fucking NPR money that isn’t a drop in the ocean compared to what we spend on everything else. It’s a joke. Neither side has the balls to make the real choices. The Tea Partiers won’t raise taxes (a must) and the left wont cut spending for their pet projects (another must). No side is for less government, they are just for less of their opponents’ government.
/subscribes to newsletter
Tax increases of varying degree, recalibration of Social Security and Medicare, and cuts to defense spending (but nothing that has a direct impact on the troops on the ground). Okay, I’m sold.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:47 AM
Husker, good calls. We really need to ask “how much is X worth?”
If I make a product no one can afford, what do I change?
If I want to move into an exclusive neighborhood, but I am “one pissed-off manager away from being let go”, maybe I should move into a less-expensive neighborhood.
If we are buying F-35s that cost several times the initial unit cost, and no one gets fired over such budgetary failure/the program doesn’t get canceled, when do we fix such bad decision-making?
December 7th, 2011 at 10:48 AM
As said on here before, this is a consumer economy we’re living in. We don’t make or build shit here anymore. To sit here and complain about spending habits is nothing more than ignoring the realities of the world we live in. Utilities are skyrocketing, gas prices are enormous, the price for a gallon of milk has doubled over the past 10 years. People aren’t running up credit card bills because they’re taking shopping trips to Paris. I’d say most of those bills are created trying to pay basic bills, or some medical emergency. People were brought up in this country to get your education, get a good job, and own a home. Now because the people in charge chose to present a facade of a paradigm shift in home financing, and we’re living in the mess of a global economy, we’re blaming people for having the audacity to seek what was always presented as the American Dream? The fuck out of here.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:48 AM
his point is “there’s an employer who’s hiring.”
See, that’s much nicer than just calling me an idiot. Was that so hard?
December 7th, 2011 at 10:49 AM
Repeal 501(c)(3) tax exemptions for religious organizations.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:49 AM
hospital spending needs a federal audit…fuck this sponsored health care bullshit. if hospitals didn’t waste money like it was going out of style, health care might actually be affordable.
/tangentially related
December 7th, 2011 at 10:50 AM
Repeal 501(c)(3) tax exemptions for religious organizations.
xenu’s gonna be pissed.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:51 AM
hospital spending needs a federal audit…fuck this sponsored health care bullshit. if hospitals didn’t waste money like it was going out of style, health care might actually be affordable
tort reform would help. what hospitals and doctors spend on insurance is ridiculous.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:51 AM
All of this.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:51 AM
hey husker … how long before Crowell transfers?
uga got a good one in Mike Davis – kinda small but a better attitude than Crowell – at least it appears that way. I’m not a dog fan, but good get anyway.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:52 AM
Germany: a quarter our size, 100 billion more in exports a year. We fucking suck.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:52 AM
Germany: a quarter our size, 100 billion more in exports a year. We fucking suck.
They can design and engineer the fuck out of an automobile. We build ours in Mexico.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:52 AM
What’s sad is it really is that simple, yet it has no chance of ever happening. It’s almost depressing, actually. I think if we had term limits for those in Congress it would be be much easier to get done. So many choose not to do the right thing because someone will attack them in an election year for doing so. We all need skin in the game. We should grandfather in those who are within 10-15 years of the current retirement age and then raise the age by 5 years. Then we cut the pet projects in the military. Yes, that will lead to a good bit of unemployed people, but we can have them build things we actually need, not want. Problem is, when someone proposes that, the gentleman from the 56th district in whatever state where a part of that useless item is built, stands pat and won’t vote for it because someone will take his job via protecting his constituents’. It sucks.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Tort reform would save one tenth of one percent of healthcare costs. Much, much, much bigger fish to fry.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:56 AM
Consumption is a small aspect of the problem, stagnant wages is the real problem. Rich people do not create jobs, people consuming products and services create jobs.
To me, and maybe me alone, it looks like you are making opposing points. I agree with the second one more. Rich people spend a lot of time and effort maintaining their riches. As a nation, we consume so much, especially when it comes to wants and recreation. (As an aside, that is a part of why many nations hate Americans – nobody spends more on BS than we do.)
When I mentioned the “shut up and step up” point, I meant we have spent years talking about what to, but we make the same decisions. Every succesive generation wants, at least, what Mommy and Daddy had. Part of the American experience was the expectation that your standard of living would be better than your parents’. I think we have gotten to the point where you can’t assume that any more.
I worked with all sorts of young folk who took it for granted that they had to live as well right now as their folks (newer cars, vacations, toys), without the 20 to 30 years of working and saving that their parents had to endure to get to this point.
With a broader brush, consumption drives most of what we do and have in America. Even with meager wages, I can consume, just not as much as somone with greater wages.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:57 AM
talking about what to do, but we make the same decisions. Every successive
December 7th, 2011 at 10:57 AM
You should watch Hot Coffee before you ask for tort reform. It’s eye opening.
That’s the big question. They also didn’t get Mike Davis (they offered him) but landed Keith Marshall. Crowell needs to grow up fast. He was great when he played, but he’s a bit of a diva, something that Richt absolutely hates. If I were betting on it, I’d say IC is not w/ UGA when they open the 2012 season, but I can hope. He just needs a wakeup call, and hopefully signing Marshall (who enrolls in Jan) will be the kick he needs. I think he looks at the current depth chart and knows he’s the best option. That may not be the case with spring ball. He’s too talented to just let him go, though. While Marshall is a stud, Crowell is an NFL back for sure. If he can grow up between now and next season, UGA is going to be insane in the backfield for the next three years.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:58 AM
Husker, it’s always an election year now. That’s the problem. Each side needs to appeal to an increasingly polarized base all the time. Republicans are only out to make sure Obama fails at every turn because they know its the easiest way to appease the right, and Democrats don’t have the spine to point that out to the American people or offer major policy initiatives that hit their sacred cows (not that I really blame them right now).
Term limits would be a good start, as would serious reform of Senate rules.
December 7th, 2011 at 11:02 AM
my roommate’s girlfriend was borderline tears (TEARS!) that she had to work as part of her masters program (for fucking sexual therapy) and couldn’t go on a vacation for a week.
nevermind that her entire fucking life is a vacation (also, nevermind that she was borderline tears – TEARS! – that her parents didn’t let her take a year off between undergrad and masters) already…she’s worked so hard for that vacation, damnit!
December 7th, 2011 at 11:04 AM
Term limits is not the answer. A more educated and informed electorate is.
December 7th, 2011 at 11:08 AM
Essentially what has happened it to live presently people are renting their wage. It’s not that Americans are dumb and spend too much money as much as they are forced into debt by limited economic opportunites coupled with rising cost of living. The number one cause of debt in American is health care costs. Not sure if Americans spend the most on recreation I do know they spend the most per person on health, $1000 year more than the next country. In modern American you rent a wage to assuage living costs through debt.
/England, Norway and Denmark all spend more per person on recreation.
December 7th, 2011 at 11:09 AM
I don’t think there is only one answer, but do think term limits are the quickest way to fix what’s killing DC.
December 7th, 2011 at 11:17 AM
term limits has you lose more good public servants seeking to make a difference than shady ones seeking to maintain power and influence. The quickest way to change what is going on in DC is creating lobbying,and campaign finance laws that limit the influence of money in legislative decision making.
December 7th, 2011 at 11:25 AM
Jesusfuckingchrist, who listens to what their parents tell them to do after 18, forget about 22??? If you’re still sucking at the financial teat, you have to do what they tell you, and you better not complain. I realized very quickly that being broke, and not obligated to visit/call/listen unless I really wanted to was well worth it.
/has a much better relationship with my parents since I told them I don’t want their help and money
December 7th, 2011 at 11:26 AM
I take umbrage with this statement. The Mets are more than capable of making themselves look terrible. They don’t need help from anyone, least of all from a team with a logo that looks like something out of an Atari video game.
December 7th, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Trade deficit is probably my biggest concerns for our nation.
December 7th, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Well, the second idea isn’t going to happen. Might as well wish for a CFB playoff. The electorate is only getting dumber. People vote against their own interests every single election, and the rise of partisan cable news has only increased the dumbassery.
I don’t think term limits is a cure-all, but its a quick, effective solution to the problems we have.
December 7th, 2011 at 2:08 PM
Never understood the appeal of JLH. Strictly no big deal.