Indianapolis Sportswriter Bob Kravitz Tries to Stir the Pot Regarding Peyton Manning and Drafting Luck
Bob Kravitz of the Indianapolis Star thinks Peyton Manning has several reasons to want to leave Indianapolis: the roster, the coaching staff, and in Kravitz’ words, a “growing schism” between Manning and the Polians due to leaks by the organization.
I do not follow this team every day, but the only evidence offered in this piece of a schism between Manning and the Polians comes from a question by Kravitz himself about drafting a quarterback. Manning denied ever having such a conversation, and then may have seemed annoyed by it.
So, let me get this straight, because this is how I read it:
- Bob Kravitz asks a question of Peyton Manning while saying that Bill Polian recently asserted that he had talked with Manning about drafting a quarterback, and that Manning was okay with that.
- Manning says that they have not had that conversation, and their conversations are private.
- Manning says “maybe a couple of years ago, he would say, ‘Eventually we are going to draft your replacement.’”
- Kravitz then adds that this “recent” appearance was by Polian back on September 12th, the day after the season began, and Polian said “Peyton and I did talk when we did this last contract (in August) about the fact that the time is approaching when it’s time to take a look at quarterbacks and to evaluate them.”
Seems Polian and Manning are being consistent, and the issue is with Kravitz. “Recently” is a subjective term; everything’s pretty recent in the overall scheme. Polian has done 12 radio shows since then, and the conversation was related to the offseason, before the Colts knew what their particular status, or Manning’s, would be. Kravitz’ question implied to Manning that there has been a recent discussion between Polian and Manning about drafting a quarterback (hint, hint, wink, wink, you know his name) with the Colts being so bad. Clearly, that did not happen. Manning and Polian’s story match up. The schism seems to me to be between Kravitz and a good, fairly-phrased question.
Now, as for the other issues raised in the article, why would Manning want to come back? I think that is a legitimate question, even if Manning would never let on even if he had private reservations. This team is 0-12. He masked a lot of wounds, and the roster isn’t going to be what it was from 2005-2008. If Manning can take this same group and make them into wildcard contenders, couldn’t he take a team with a bad quarterback who is playing (relatively) better and make them a Super Bowl contender?
Kansas City just won at Chicago with Tyler Palko, a week after going toe to toe with Pittsburgh despite Palko turnovers. Miami has a positive point differential and could be 9-3 instead of 4-8 with better red zone execution and better QB play in late-game situations earlier this season. Seattle is at 5-7 with Tarvaris Jackson. Washington has been hampered by the quarterback play, and has a good defense. Heck, you could probably do this with just about any roster, and Manning’s chances of making the playoffs would be at least as good anywhere else.
It’s not that Manning can’t improve the Colts back to respectability if he is healthy; it’s whether he can take other rosters and have a better chance.
So the issues of player loyalty vs deciding to move on could come up. Manning may not want to mentor Andrew Luck, and may prefer they use the pick on something that helps him win. Those are legitimate things that may come up. A schism between Manning and Polian over having to answer questions that imply things are bad between the two, though, isn’t one of the reasons.
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December 6th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
This post seems familiar.
December 6th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Him wanting to win seems like a perfectly good reason. No chance of being relevant with that surrounding cast at the end of his career. Would anyone really give a shit if the Colts fans felt betrayed? Golden Corral stock will go through the roof, though.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:01 PM
Jared Allen is confused by this.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:01 PM
Peyton Manning to the Redskins is such a Daniel Snyder move that it would defy logic if it didn’t happen.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:04 PM
Peyton Manning would have be a crappy QB for Daniel Snyder to be involved
December 6th, 2011 at 1:04 PM
Would love Manning in KC. Very similar to Joe Montana at the end of his career. They’d have to draft/sign some more O-lineman though. If Jamaal Charles and Tony Moeaki come back healthy (big if), the talent is there on offense with Bowe, Baldwin, and Breaston. The defense is coming into its own. Needs a healthy Eric Berry and another D-lineman or two.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
He’s either playing in Indy or nowhere else. Manning is a robot and the entire franchise has been custom built for him. Kravtiz is a weasel.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
I would think just past his prime, a-la Jason Taylor and Bruce Smith.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:08 PM
But the Colts issues have to run much deeper than just not having Manning, right? I mean, most teams can back their way into at least 2 wins a season.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:09 PM
Peyton Manning loves shitty players then I guess.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
This year’s team, outside of its QB issues, is actually BETTER than last year’s team. But when you take away all those 10+ play drives that rest your undersized, injury-prone defense and replace them with the most three and outs in the league, it’s a recipe for disaster. And disaster is what has happened.
They’ve also had shitty lucky. They’ve either been tied or driving for the lead in the fourth quarter of six of their losses. I mean, the odds of not winning any of them aren’t great, yet here we are.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:13 PM
and next year you’ll have Andrew Luck.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:14 PM
It’d be different if they played in the NFC with the Packers juggernaut. But there aren’t any good teams in the AFC. Playoffs will probably be a crapshoot. Wouldn’t take a whole lot to get back into contention if Manning were to return healthy. Big if.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:16 PM
I think this is an under-appreciated benefit of having an offense that can move the ball. Makes the defense’s life a lot easier than playing their ass off, then having to go right back on to the field 5 mintues later with shitty field position. Chiefs have the same problem.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:17 PM
Peyton to the Jets would be splendid.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
/tries to remember which general peyton was
//cant remember because it was so long ago
///nods at spencer
December 6th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Immediate favorite in the AFC.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Manning to KC? How Montana-esque.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Is this like the ‘schism’ that was between Brady and Kraft right before he signed his new deal?
I love shitty reporters
December 6th, 2011 at 1:23 PM
If you’re San Fran, why not give Indy what it wants for Peyton (assuming he’s healthy), and put a strangle hold on the NFC West for the next 5-6 six years?
December 6th, 2011 at 1:23 PM
I’m in moderation for this comment:
Peyton to KC? How Montana-esque.
/-3 rings
December 6th, 2011 at 1:24 PM
I’m in moderation hell. I don’t know what I did to do it. I compared Peyton Manning to Joe Montana so maybe you’re not allowed to do that.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:24 PM
Am I banned? Or just in moderation land?
December 6th, 2011 at 1:24 PM
Right there with ya, CJ.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:25 PM
someone say pot?
December 6th, 2011 at 1:25 PM
armchair general this year, amirite?
December 6th, 2011 at 1:25 PM
Peyton to SF would be really interesting.
Harbaugh wouldn’t get Luck like everyone thought last year, but the better older QB that he is replacing.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:26 PM
and in Kravitz’ words, a “growing schism” between Manning and the Polians due to leaks by the organization.
Is this like the ‘schism’ that was between Brady and Kraft right before he signed his new deal?
I love shitty reporters
December 6th, 2011 at 1:26 PM
Let’s try this:
P e y t o n t o K a n s a s C i t y? H o w M o n t a n a – e s q u e.
/-3 rings
December 6th, 2011 at 1:27 PM
Ah, that did it. Fuck moderation.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
It’s gonna be hilarious when Luck is the third best QB in the 2012 class.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
I like Lenny Kravitz. Especially his Mama Said album.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:34 PM
So, the Packers are instituting soci@lism as a practice now? How much more un-American can that franchise get?
December 6th, 2011 at 1:35 PM
/team barkley
December 6th, 2011 at 1:35 PM
So everyone’s getting moderated today?
December 6th, 2011 at 1:38 PM
Sad state of affairs in indy
December 6th, 2011 at 1:43 PM
Telltale sign of a self-absorbed glory hound.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:43 PM
i haven’t at all…haven’t commented much tho.
December 6th, 2011 at 1:55 PM
fart?