The Harris Interactive Poll: Where Alabama Gets Ranked No. 4 Below Stanford, Twice.
The Harris Interactive Poll, in concert with the Coaches Poll, helps determine the BCS Championship. Here are some of the interesting decisions made by that gaggle of football luminaries who may, or may not, have turned on their television sets last weekend.
Former ND Wide Receiver Derrick Mayes is a strong candidate for the batshit award. He has Auburn (18) and Georgia unranked. Georgia (10-3) beat Auburn (7-5) by a 45-7 margin when the teams met head to head. He has Oklahoma State (6) and Oklahoma (9). He also left Penn State, 9-3, unranked behind Louisville (7-5) and Rutgers (8-4). PSU played three Top 30 teams, three more than Louisville and Rutgers combined.
NFL quarterback and FIU coach Don Strock had a doozy of a ballot as well. He has Michigan (25) eight places behind Nebraska (17), a team with a worse record the Wolverines beat head to head by four touchdowns. Strock also has Cincinnati (18), a 9-3 Big East team with two wins over teams with winning records (N.C. State and Louisville), ahead of West Virginia (20) who beat them and have an identical record, as well as PSU, MSU, Oklahoma and Michigan.
Ex-Stanford QB Todd Husak has a vote. He used it to place Stanford (3) ahead of Alabama (4). Former Iowa State coach Jim Walden also voted Alabama (4) behind Oklahoma State and Stanford.
George Wine, a former SID at Iowa, voted Oklahoma State (6). They are behind Houston (5). Oklahoma went 6-1 vs. the Sagarin Top 30. Houston went 0-1. Wine, 80, admitted “he doesn’t do as much research” as other voters and doesn’t think it is possible to subjectively rank teams. To recap, an 80-year-old, retired PR guy who doesn’t do much research has more influence over the eventual BCS champion than margin of victory.
Gary Sanders has TCU (5) and Oregon (11). Oregon beat Stanford (Sanders’ 4) by three touchdowns in Stanford. TCU beat Sanders’ 6 Boise State by one point on a missed field goal. Oregon played a tougher schedule. LSU/USC > Baylor/SMU.
Former SEC Commissioner, and BCS creator, Roy Kramer had five SEC teams – LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, South Carolina and Georgia – in his Top 11. Though, he at least had the good sense to keep Boise State (10) ahead of Georgia (11).
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December 5th, 2011 at 2:04 PM
I don’t think anyone can doubt individual voters make foolish decisions. The question is the check and balance in the system. That is, what would the polls look like had these people made more prudent decisions? I’m guessing final poll would look exactly the same as it does now.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:04 PM
Can’t stop laughing about the AUB-UGA ranking. Too funny.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:05 PM
Have we seen the updated Duffy top 25 yet?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:06 PM
In other news, here are the opening lines for all of the bowl games. LSU is -1 for those wondering.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:07 PM
In other news, here are the opening lines for all of the bowl games. LSU is -1 for those wondering.
/fucking moderation’d
December 5th, 2011 at 2:07 PM
What is the big issue here?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:09 PM
Pains me to say, but this is the biggest problem I have. He should not be involved in this process. That’s inexcusable.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:10 PM
Have we seen the updated Duffy top 25 yet?
#1: Transparency
#2: Fairness
#3: Smug Superiority
December 5th, 2011 at 2:10 PM
I see nothing wrong with this. I mean, didn’t Bama, Stanford and OKST finish 2-4?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:10 PM
Again, it could be worse. Jerry Sandusky used to have a vote.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:12 PM
can’t wait to see what is #15
December 5th, 2011 at 2:12 PM
+1 undeserved BCS bid
December 5th, 2011 at 2:12 PM
What is the SMU/Pitt line? (I know no one cares, I have a bet with someone at work)
December 5th, 2011 at 2:13 PM
Oh so this is the explanation for batshit crazy. Go figure…
December 5th, 2011 at 2:13 PM
-7 for Pitt.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:14 PM
What is the SMU/Pitt line? (I know no one cares, I have a bet with someone at work)
do you have access to the internet? Because if so, you can use google to figure that one out.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:14 PM
What are the chances the line moves a couple towards LSU? I’m surprised by the line a little bit, since LSU won at Bama, but Alabama has the best player on the field, and I assume the coaching matchup favors them.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:14 PM
RATINGS!!!!
/oh wait, this is rankings
December 5th, 2011 at 2:14 PM
boat shoes.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:15 PM
What is the SMU/Pitt line? (I know no one cares, I have a bet with someone at work)
I care! I care!
/doesn’t know what the line is
December 5th, 2011 at 2:15 PM
Husker…I don’t think your link worked the first time, and typing this sentence was easier than finding it myself.
/taps foot impatiently
December 5th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
I think Bama might get a point. They outplayed LSU the first time.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
can’t wait to see what is #15
a confident speaking voice
December 5th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
#25: necklaces
December 5th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
-7 for Pitt.
That seems about right considering SMU’s QB has a broken foot and our starting running back is out for the season and has been replaced by two true freshman: a walk-on from Florida and a converted Nose Tackle.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
Dirt: What’s the weather like outside right now?
/in my area, not yours
December 5th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
Here ya go, Clay
December 5th, 2011 at 2:17 PM
Lines
http://kegsneggsblog.com/2011/12/05/opening-bowl-game-point-spreads/
December 5th, 2011 at 2:17 PM
oh my.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:17 PM
/How I read it
December 5th, 2011 at 2:18 PM
They do? That’s very debatable.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:18 PM
Seems high, with no Ray Graham. Pitt’s QB was a dumpster fire against WVU. Was embarrassingly bad in the 4th Q
December 5th, 2011 at 2:18 PM
too low, brah.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:19 PM
This aggression against boat shoes will not stand.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:19 PM
Nebraska opens at -1 over SC (odd)
UGA opens -2 over Sparty (seems about right)
Iowa is a 16-point dog against Oklahoma
OKST -3.5 over Stanford
Mich/VT is a pick em
Arkansas 8.5 over KState
Clemson -3 over WVU
Florida -1.5 over OSU
December 5th, 2011 at 2:19 PM
Hawkeyes are more than 2 score underdogs for the 2nd year in a row. Vegas is going to make some cheese on superstitious weiners that think Iowa can pull off the upset two years in a row.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:19 PM
id rather pick new teams.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:19 PM
I’m not a Mathieu fan at all. The other corner looked pretty good, but to me Richardson was a standout in that game. You shouldn’t be able to gash a ‘great’ defense for those yardage chunks. I definitely could see Bama winning the game 24-10 or something.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:20 PM
More curious on what they eventually set the total at in this one.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:20 PM
oh my.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:20 PM
Seems high, with no Ray Graham. Pitt’s QB was a dumpster fire against WVU. Was embarrassingly bad in the 4th Q
I thought it seemed low considering SMU’s difficulties. Add in the fact that June Jones has apparently interviewed with Arizona State and there is possible discord on the team and you have a nice level of distraction for my ponies.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:21 PM
I figured 1.5 was the total there. I was about to say it’s too high.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:21 PM
I knew nothing of that, so yeah I’d take Pitt. The bigger question is what will they do next year. A real QB might make a huge difference on that team.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:21 PM
Practical and healthy.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:22 PM
There is a reason why you have more than one voter for these things…just saying.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:23 PM
You think you’re better than us?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:23 PM
Oh Trey, you’re so clueless.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:23 PM
I like OSU in that game.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:24 PM
OSU should beat Florida by 7-10 points
December 5th, 2011 at 2:25 PM
I knew nothing of that, so yeah I’d take Pitt. The bigger question is what will they do next year. A real QB might make a huge difference on that team.
SMU? We’ll have the first honest QB battle since June arrived (assuming he sticks around). Stephen Kaiser is a redshirt freshman and the current backup to McDermott (he of the aforementioned broken foot, he’s also graduating). Kaiser was highly recruited out of high school in Missouri, but has been through two cases of mono in the last year and so apparently has not been able to get a grasp of the offense. His arm strength has apparently fallen off quite a bit too. If he can get healthy by spring, he’ll be in the hunt. Then there’s Connor Preston out of California. He’s redshirting this year and June has been reluctant to burn it. Then there’s the previous QB Kyle Padron. He lost the starting job against A&M, and then injured his back in practice and is lost for the year. It’ll be a three way battle between each of them in spring camp for the starting job. Garrett Gilbert has to sit out next year so he won’t be competing for the starting job until Spring 2013.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:25 PM
Source: Brett Favre would talk to Bears
Apparently the Sterger Wrangler was just waiting for Suh to get suspended so he could come back and not risk decapitation.
Or is he thinking he can single-handedly end the Pack’s undefeated season come Christmas Day?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:25 PM
As far as the SEC-B10 games go, I like:
SC over NEB
UGA over Sparty
OSU over Florida
December 5th, 2011 at 2:25 PM
I admit – I laughed
December 5th, 2011 at 2:25 PM
I don’t remember many gashes though and his overall numbers came to about a 4 ypc avg, which is good but not other-worldly. Plus I factor in Mathieu’s playmaking as a returner as well. I think both are awesome in their own right and have no problem with either, which is why I said it was debatable, haha.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:25 PM
oat shoes.
Practical and healthy.
+1
December 5th, 2011 at 2:26 PM
better? no because that would imply a measure of aptitude for either side.
do i think OSU sucks marginally less than florida? yes…only marginally though.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:27 PM
No, Pitt. Sunseri is awful.
Yeah… it’s debatable. He had some good sized gains on swing passes too. I just remember thinking he looked like the best player there. I also only saw the second half though, so I reserve the right to be wrong.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:27 PM
Richardson 6 yards per touch. Awesome numbers against the best defense in the land.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:27 PM
They outplayed LSU in the first 25 minutes of the game, no doubt. LSU was fortunate to be tied at the half. In the 2nd half/OT, LSU was the better team. They bottled up Richardson aside from 1 run and scared the crap out of McCarron. LSU hasnt given up a 2nd half TD since the Auburn game (already up 45-3).
Two factors in LSU’s favor this time: no Jarrett Lee and a more favorable crowd advantage.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:27 PM
Thank you sir
December 5th, 2011 at 2:28 PM
SMU?
No, Pitt. Sunseri is awful.
I see. Well then disregard that entire paragraph I wrote then.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:28 PM
41-14 Florida.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:29 PM
do you have access to the internet? Because if so, you can use google to figure that one out.
I do have access, but if the USA today lines page isnt updated it’s hard to be able to get through the corporate firewall with anything with any gambling keyword.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:29 PM
Saw it earlier. I’ve reached the point of watching Caleb Hanie play QB where I’m just saying, “Fuck it. Bring him in. Let’s end this season with a laugh.”
December 5th, 2011 at 2:29 PM
It was appreciated, as the first piece of cogent college football analysis I’ve seen on this site in months.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:29 PM
Just looked it up…
rushing: 22 for 89, 3.9 ypc
receiving: 5 for 80, 16.0 ypc
kick return: 1 for 23, 23.0 ypr
December 5th, 2011 at 2:29 PM
UGA vs Sparty will be good. Love watching Aaron Murray and Kirk Cousins play. Hopefully the UGA receivers will learn how to catch the ball before the game.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:30 PM
Apparently the Sterger Wrangler was just waiting for Suh to get suspended so he could come back and not risk decapitation.
He’d get killed playing behind that line, especially without a significant running game.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:30 PM
Somebody should do the world a solid and take away George Wine’s drivers licence.
/’I guess I didn’t do enough research about crossing guards and school children….’
December 5th, 2011 at 2:30 PM
SportsByBrooks saying Mike Stoops is leaning to going to Nebraska. Interesting…
December 5th, 2011 at 2:30 PM
In the 2nd half/OT, Richardson had 12 carries for 33 yards. One of those was a 24 yarder. He also had a 17 yd reception on a 3rd-and-20. Those were the only plays he made in the 2nd half.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:30 PM
I’m hearing UW +4.5 in the Rose.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:30 PM
Nebraska opens at -1 over SC (odd)
UGA opens -2 over Sparty (seems about right)
Iowa is a 16-point dog against Oklahoma
OKST -3.5 over Stanford
Mich/VT is a pick em
Arkansas 8.5 over KState
Clemson -3 over WVU
Florida -1.5 over OSU
The SRS lines on those games:
S CAR by 1.2
Michigan State by 0.9
Oklahoma by 15.8
Oklahoma State by 5.4
Michigan by 9.6
Arkansas by 3.6
Clemson by 1.3
Ohio State by 0.3
Virginia Tech getting far more respect than on field results indicate, but they got more respect than they deserved just getting selected for a bowl game. Good to know you can not win the 2nd worst BCS league and get an at large.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:30 PM
/sobs
//screams, “it should have been 21-0!!”
///sobs again
December 5th, 2011 at 2:31 PM
If Florida had a competent quarterback who could stay healthy? not even then. Florida blows.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:32 PM
I can’t imagine the shitstorm my office would be right now if UGA had lost by 7 or less with the Honey Badger pulling a Desean Jackson like that.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:33 PM
I have no clue who will win that game, but I’d be surprised if it was either side by 10 points.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:33 PM
hey, i’m not even a Georgia fan and I was screaming at the television as well. Georgia did their best Stevie Johnson clutch time impression that day. Aaron Murray looked as if he was going to kill someone.
I root for a team that has a QB who is too much of a pussy to throw the ball deep. Give me Aaron Murray any day
/pours one out for Syracuse football
December 5th, 2011 at 2:34 PM
It was appreciated, as the first piece of cogent college football analysis I’ve seen on this site in months.
If anyone here needs to know about scotch, beer, history, the Astros, or SMU football, I’m your man.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:35 PM
if VT couldn’t handle Clemson and Taj Boyd, they sure as hell won’t handle Michigan and Denard Robinson
December 5th, 2011 at 2:35 PM
Can you explain the factors that go into their numbers briefly? All Michigan trolling aside, that’s a shitty defense up there in Ann Arbor. Any spread favoring Michigan by more than a TD is crazy considering garbage time scores.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:35 PM
not this time…our players aren’t good enough to get invited to free buffets.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:35 PM
Hey, ease up on Stevie.
/pours one out for Buffalo Bills football
December 5th, 2011 at 2:36 PM
Boyd can throw and has Sammy Watkins. Robinson can’t throw and doesn’t have Sammy Watkins.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:36 PM
Lisk, is there any data on the SRS’s predictive accuracy?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:36 PM
/pours one out for Buffalo Bills football
//does the same for Detroit Lions football
December 5th, 2011 at 2:36 PM
How many running yards will Arkansas give up to K-State? o/u should be 200, right?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:36 PM
I’m not a Mathieu fan at all. The other corner looked pretty good, but to me Richardson was a standout in that game.
reid was the man, with the most important play too
December 5th, 2011 at 2:36 PM
I can’t imagine the shitstorm my office would be right now if UGA had lost by 7 or less with the Honey Badger pulling a Desean Jackson like that.
I missed the first half, but I swore I heard Lundquist say that the play wasn’t reviewed. Is that true? If so, what the fuck is there a replay official for if he doesn’t review everything that is marginally close?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:37 PM
Well maybe not beer. I think there are few people on here more knowledgeable about beer than I.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:37 PM
Sagarin has Michigan about 4.7 points better.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:38 PM
It was not reviewed. When CBS showed the slo-mo replay, Mathieu clearly tossed the ball to the official before the ball broke the plane. Absolute fucking garbage but then again, we’re talking about SEC officiating. They are the worst
December 5th, 2011 at 2:38 PM
I missed the first half, but I swore I heard Lundquist say that the play wasn’t reviewed.
I was flipping back and forth between this game and the Badger basketball game, so I didn’t see it live. I saw the replay they showed after they came back from a commercial break though, and from what I gathered it wasn’t reviewed. Looked like something the guys in the truck picked up on.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:38 PM
It was true, and I have no clue. Not sure it would have mattered, but it was a big play, that’s for sure.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:40 PM
Reid/Claiborne made the plays in that game. The only notable play Mathieu made was a stupid clothesline on a punt return that cost the team about 25 yards in a game where field position was at a premium.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:40 PM
It was true, and I have no clue. Not sure it would have mattered, but it was a big play, that’s for sure.
Fair point. The ball would have been out at around the 1 or the 2 from what look of it. But still…..if you don’t review something like that, then why even have a replay official.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:40 PM
At worst after the touchback maybe 35 -17. Honey Badger get’s a pass on that play which just shows how annoying Desean Jackson is.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:41 PM
The crazy thing is the official’s arms went up to signal TD before Mathieu flipped it.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:41 PM
Although, if he tossed the ball to the official before breaking the plane and if the official had been standing in such a way that the loose ball would have gone through the endzone and then out of bounds, that would have been a touchback, yes?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
The crazy thing is the official’s arms went up to signal TD before Mathieu flipped it.
he’s a 2b ump in the summer
December 5th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
Fuck Va Tech. And fuck Jim Delaney. He didn’t want Boise St. to play Michigan according to Dan Wetzel.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
Motherfuck, I need the proper combination of more/less booze and more sleep.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
And our fastest players is the qb, so no game ending ankle injuries this time after returning a kick for a td
/never went from so high to so low during a football game in my life
December 5th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
go blue (turf)!
December 5th, 2011 at 2:44 PM
Neither are FSU’s we held them under 100.
Plus, Florida didn’t lose to shitty 6-6 teams, we got curb stomped by three 10 win teams.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:44 PM
/drinks kerosene
December 5th, 2011 at 2:44 PM
After moving to a place with increased traffic, I have to leave the house by 6:40 at the latest every day to not get stuck in traffic for an hour… I can’t even fucking sleep in on weekends anymore, I’m used to it now.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:44 PM
Purdue gets a point vs Western Michigan? I’ll take that
December 5th, 2011 at 2:46 PM
/never went from so high to so low during a football game in my life
Dennis Byrd knows how you feel.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:46 PM
You’ll have the distraction of Muschamp pulling a Kiffin on the Gators though.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:47 PM
and OSU lost close games to three 10-win teams and two 9-win teams. what’s your point?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
Maybe the homer in me, but I’m kinda surprised that is so low. Especially compared to UofM
December 5th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
The SRS lines on those games:
Texas A&M @ 11 renders that site useless….
December 5th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
Arkansas has trouble with teams that have huge OL’s, something I’m guessing K-State doesn’t have (guessing on that). I honestly know nothing about K-State though, so I suppose 200 yards wouldn’t be out of the question. regardless of how many yards they give up, I don’t think Arkansas loses that game.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
Not sure, couldve been a penalty for illegal forward pass.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:50 PM
Motherfuck, I need the proper combination of more/less booze and more sleep.
Haven’t had a good night of sleep in over 5 years, so yeah I know how you feel.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:51 PM
I didn’t know Purdue and Miami were in that group…
December 5th, 2011 at 2:52 PM
/re-does math
//gives up
December 5th, 2011 at 2:53 PM
/never went from so high to so low during a football game in my life
Dennis Byrd knows how you feel.
Oh my.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
//I agree though. The Final score might be 3-2. We have the nation’s best FG kicker and the nation’s worst offense. Should be fun.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
It’s very close but I think he tosses it before he crossing the line and his momentum makes the ball carry through the endzone. However, it to be a lateral he would have to be in the endzone and thus it would be a touchdown. The call would be illegal forward pass.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
Oh my.
Too soon?
/Saw a Pat Summit Alzheimer’s joke in here earlier, thought I was good to go
December 5th, 2011 at 2:56 PM
This is like watching Rocky fight Appollo Creed. Ridiculous punches thrown with no care for defense or technique.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:56 PM
George Wine, what a name.
Think he is taking a nip or four when filling out his ballot?
December 5th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
there’s literally no winning outcome for the buckeyes so fun indeed!
/they lose, business as usual vs. SEC
//they win, doesn’t erase 41-14
December 5th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
Too soon?
/Saw a Pat Summit Alzheimer’s joke in here earlier, thought I was good to go
Not saying it wasn’t funny, I just feel like I have to be aghast for karmic reasons.
December 5th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
Dennis Byrd knows how you feel.
The answer is Eric LeGrand, for CFB.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:00 PM
i already forgot the pat summitt alzheimer’s joke.
/rimshot
December 5th, 2011 at 3:00 PM
Basically if K State can’t get a pass rush on Wilson I’m not particularly worried. I have no idea if they can or not though, I have not watched 1 Kansas State game all year.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
Holy fuck is it close
December 5th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
Holy fuck is it close
That’s not even a good angle. CBS had another one with the camera at the goal line…he clearly let it go early.