Remember When the SEC Hated the Idea of an Ohio State-Michigan Rematch in the Title Game?
LSU will play Alabama for the BCS Championship on January 9th. That’s decided. The outcome of the SEC title game this weekend matters not. This upcoming weekend in college football is meaningless (only two games mattered last weekend.) Even with a loss – LSU is favored by 12 – the Tigers won’t fall far enough in the lame BCS standings to get leapfrogged by Oklahoma State.
Why is 1-loss Alabama playing LSU? Well, as Stewart Mandel points out, there’s clearly an SEC bias, and a bias against all the other conferences and their teams who have been blown out in title games in the last decade. (Note: I don’t have an issue with this bias. My issue is the entire system, which is broken. Last year in the NFL playoffs, the Patriots were 14-2 going in and everyone had them in the Super Bowl. Good thing there’s no BCS in the NFL.)
But let’s go back to 2006. Remember when Florida was worried Michigan and Ohio State were going to meet in a rematch for the title? Here’s what Urban Meyer said that day:
“We’re going to tell a group of young men who just went 12-1 with the most difficult schedule against six ranked opponents that they don’t have a chance to go play for a national championship?” Florida coach Urban Meyer asked incredulously. “I’m going to need help with that one.”
Here’s then-freshman receiver Percy Harvin:
“Michigan already had its chance. I think we deserve a chance.”
And the best quote came from Florida President Bernie Machen (who is a playoff guy):
“If they don’t vote for us after tonight, we need a new system,” Florida President Bernie Machen said after the game. “We should be packing our bags for Glendale.”
All the 1-loss teams eligible to play for the title – Stanford, Virginia Tech, Oklahoma State and Boise State, plus unbeaten Houston – should be parroting Florida’s 2006 responses. Alabama had their chance. I’d love to see Boise State, given a month to prepare, attack LSU’s defense. If Stanford got healthy in the next month, I’m curious how it would go at the best secondary in football. Ideally, of course, we’d see an 8 or 16-team playoff.
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November 28th, 2011 at 12:03 PM
So since they did play in the title game proves the BCS worked right mr florida president?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:03 PM
Can’t believe you left off the money quote from Saban circa 2003. If I were OKST I would be screaming from the mountain tops about him saying that no team deserves a shot at the national title if they don’t win their conference.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:04 PM
You realize they aren’t going to win their conference, right?
/you probably don’t
November 28th, 2011 at 12:04 PM
because then we would’ve been cursed with philly and the pats? OH HEAVENS NO.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:05 PM
I disagree.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:05 PM
David Pollack suggesting that the SEC might have 3 teams in the BCS was funny, in that it can’t happen because its a against the rules.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:05 PM
Last year in the NFL playoffs, the Patriots were 14-2 going in and everyone had them in the Super Bowl. Good thing there’s no BCS in the NFL.)
I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make here.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:05 PM
And you really need to drop this thought process…plenty of games mattered last weekend and this weekend for a variety of reasons.
Tell msu or Wisconsin fans that this weekend “doesn’t matter”
November 28th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
Bloodbath.
Part of me wants to see OKST get in and get waxed. This comes down to what you think the regular season is for. Is it to determine the two best teams and pair them in the title game? Or is it to find the two most deserving teams? If you want the best two teams, Bama is your guy. If you want the most deserving, that’s when OKST comes into play a bit more. However losing to Iowa State is such a terrible loss. It can’t be overstated.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
agree to a point, but the loss to Iowa State is pretty tough to ignore. that, and it’s Okie state, so no one outside of Indian Territory gives a shit,
November 28th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
My arbitrary, biased argument holds more water than your arbitrary, biased argument.
/all college football arguments this time of year
November 28th, 2011 at 12:07 PM
Nevertheless…LSU and Alabama are BY FAR BY FAR BY FAR the two best teams in college football, probably more so than at any point during the BCS era.
Try as you might to discredit the BCS…but it’s going to get it right this year. Period.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:07 PM
ALL OF THIS. Tell LSU that winning an SEC title means jack. Tell it to UGA. Same goes for Oregon, the two B10 teams and even Houston, playing for a BCS bowl. The “this week is meaningless” talk comes from people who aren’t CFB fans or who don’t understand the sport.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:07 PM
plus unbeaten Houston
Houston is good, no doubt about that. But considering their schedule, I don’t see them having any sort of legitimate whiff of the National Championship game. If they had beat every team they faced by 40, then sure. But they played some fairly mediocre teams and struggled at times. But their offense is really exciting to watch*.
*if you don’t mind bubble screens, which I don’t.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:08 PM
Can’t they have a third if two are already in the NC?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:08 PM
Ouch. Put that foot all up in your mouth, genius, If UGA wins and LSU and Bama are 1-2 then the SEC will have three teams in the BCS. The rule states only 2 “at-large” teams can be from same conference. Bama and LSU wouldn’t be at-large teams.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:08 PM
that, and it’s Okie state, so no one outside of Indian Territory gives a shit,
No more firewater for you.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
This is obviously wrong, as Oklahoma State still has a legit shot to jump to #2 if they beat Oklahoma. They have a much better resume than Alabama.
Also, Big 12 South > SEC West.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
False. If Georgia wins…it is going to happen. But Georgia isn’t winning, so, no, it’s not going to happen.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Average attendance of the 4 FCS playoff games this weekend: 9151.
/blows party horn
November 28th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
I was under the impression that, if UGA won, it WOULD happen if LSU/Bama remained at 1&2 in the BCS.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Belt Bet. Me and Jersey. It’s on. Again.
/belt
November 28th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
The Falcons would have been involved, Philly was the #3 seed…the Packers saved us all from having to witness that
Well their earlier game didn’t matter in hindsight despite the keeper of the CFB flame repeatedly beating the “every game counts!” drum
November 28th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Can’t they have a third if two are already in the NC?
I was under the impression that only 2 teams from one conference are allowed to participate in the BCS. I’d be all for the third SEC team taking the BigEast’s spot this year though.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Falcons Pats.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:10 PM
keep in mind that the guy who wrote this piece is now rooting for one of his team’s biggest rivals since their rival hired a head coach he doesn’t like anymore.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:10 PM
in that case…THANK GOD THERE’S NO BCS IN THE NFL!
November 28th, 2011 at 12:11 PM
I was under the impression that only 2 teams from one conference are allowed to participate in the BCS.
This rule no longer in effect? It fucked Wisconsin out of a BCS game a few years ago.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:11 PM
This has to be some kind of joke, right?
But it did matter. If WIS won that game they would be playing for a shot at the national title.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:11 PM
The problem is that Oklahoma State is not a name program. Pretty much every time there has been a controversy, the bigger name program has gotten the bid. Even if Stanford vs LSU is a better “story,” Alabama is more famous. Even if Oklahoma State “deserves” it more, Alabama is more famous.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:11 PM
No, and possibly.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:12 PM
Not if Georgia beats LSU. Georgia gets the Automatic SEC bid, Bama and LSU would be BCS at-large teams. Its not against the rules.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:12 PM
If two teams from the same team didn’t win their title, but are 1-2 in the BCS, they are NOT at-large teams. The rule states only 2 “at-large” teams can be from one league.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:12 PM
so I take it someone showed the new guy where the key to the liquor cabinet is huh?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:12 PM
the only thing that doesn’t matter is TBL’s dumbass opinion. the bottom line is TBL wants college football to be either the NFL or college basketball…he just doesn’t get it.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:13 PM
1-2 aren’t at-large teams. They are automatically in.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:13 PM
If two teams from the same team didn’t win their title, but are 1-2 in the BCS
College football is fucked up.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:13 PM
You left out the important detail that Michigan sucked.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
There is a singular exception that is 2 teams from the same conference are 1-2, and neither is the conference champ, then 3 can go.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
If Georgia pulls off the upset and goes to the SEC BCS bowl, doesn’t that mean that Alabama or LSU couldn’t go because that would be 3 teams from the same conference?
/honest question
November 28th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
Spencer
Is it true Fickell is gonna be DC? I’ve only seen that it’s for sure that he’s staying on in some capacity.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
I think it would happen if Georgia won on Saturday.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
And you use 3 quotes from one team to justify the thought process of the entire SEC? Florida in 2006 is not the SEC. You think people want to see Bama back in the NC? Are you kidding me? LSU doesn’t want to play them again. Auburn doesn’t want them in. Etc Etc.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
Texas/USC would like to have a word.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
This certainly bears repeating:
November 28th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
I blame Gene Hackman.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
the only thing that doesn’t matter is TBL’s dumbass opinion. the bottom line is TBL wants college football to be either the NFL or college basketball…he just doesn’t get it.
This.
/used to be pro-playoff.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:15 PM
vlad…heard the same things. no idea.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:15 PM
explain
November 28th, 2011 at 12:16 PM
LSU and Alabama are BY FAR BY FAR BY FAR the two best teams in college football, probably more so than at any point during the BCS era.
Really? Neither one has a QB. I’d like to see USC play either one of these teams.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
What’s funny is that a couple years ago I was all about wanting a playoff. The more TBL/Duffy “play the payoffs” (nods at KC? Chief? forget who…) the more I’m firmly liking the bowl system. It’s a much better way to combine both ‘champion’ and ‘best team’ than if you let a team like Stanford, who completely laid an egg in the biggest game of their season, have a chance at a lucky upset.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
They’re #2 in 2 of 6 computer polls, and they closed the gap in all 6 human polls without even playing last weekend. They dominate Oklahoma, maybe they have a shot – their resume is better.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
The conference championship games have already begun this trend…if USC was eligible there’d be 3 rematches coming up this weekend, every game doesn’t even count for winning your conference anymore
November 28th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
TBL, the difference that year? There was a clear cut 3rd…and it was Florida.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
That’s the truth. Les Miles: “Let’s see…we can either play a team that knows us in and out and has as much talent as we do, or we can play OKST would couldn’t defend a paper bag. Choices choices choices.”
November 28th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
Except if the BCS system were in place, the Patriots would have been in the championship and no one would have doubted their legitimacy based on their body of work in the regular season, which is exactly the point of the BCS>
November 28th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
My biggest problem with a rematch is that it does make the regular season a bit meaningless. The previous LSU-Alabama game had no bearing on the national championship as it turned out and only made getting there more difficult…for the winner.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
What’s funny is that a couple years ago I was all about wanting a playoff. The more TBL/Duffy “play the payoffs” (nods at KC? Chief? forget who…) the more I’m firmly liking the bowl system. It’s a much better way to combine both ‘champion’ and ‘best team’ than if you let a team like Stanford, who completely laid an egg in the biggest game of their season, have a chance at a lucky upset.
/used to be pro-playoff, TBL convinced me otherwise
November 28th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
Arizona State can be heard heartily laughing at this.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:18 PM
Miami was pretty good when they were 2-3 deep at most positions with NFL players.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:18 PM
This is the best argument against a rematch.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:18 PM
QUIT COMPARING IT TO THE GEE-DEE NFL!
November 28th, 2011 at 12:18 PM
I hope Bama beats LSU 9-6.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:19 PM
Definitely the one that I would view as possibly ahead.
LMAO. Please, child.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:19 PM
boom roasted. Well said.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:19 PM
It’s the unfortunate consequence of having conference fans/honks/lackeys.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:19 PM
And you wouldn’t have some fraudy-ass fake wanna-be overrated pretty boy QB blowhard coach ref-buying holding island fraud of a team with a chance to win the Superbowl and make people think they were actually good.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:19 PM
What’s funny is that a couple years ago I was all about wanting a playoff. The more TBL/Duffy “play the payoffs” (nods at KC? Chief? forget who…) the more I’m firmly liking the bowl system. It’s a much better way to combine both ‘champion’ and ‘best team’ than if you let a team like Stanford, who completely laid an egg in the biggest game of their season, have a chance at a lucky upset.
This summarizes nicely how I went from being a partisan for playoffs, to accepting and even liking the current system.
/but seriously, get rid of pre-season polls.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
I agree with the first part but I find the second half of this statement to be questionable at best.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
Occasionally, yes. But at the time…do you think either team was in that mindset? No. Mindset that you have to win is a lot more important than knowing you can give one up.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
Yep fuck USC. UCLA TO THE ROSE BOWL!
November 28th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
Just so we’re clear, if OSU loses to OU we’ve gone full swing from “this season proves the BCS causes chaos !!!!!eleven!!!” to “yeah, system works, shuttup homo.”
November 28th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
Very true. And wait until we replace the Ags with TCU. Hoo boy.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
If only they cared about the childr…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
November 28th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
It’s the unfortunate consequence of having conference fans/honks/lackeys.
Exactly. SEC fans bring this upon themselves when they chant their conference’s name.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:21 PM
Gonna quote that for truthiness
November 28th, 2011 at 12:21 PM
This would be hilarious, actually. I do think you’ll see each team open it up a bit more. Both of those teams thought the winner was done playing the loser and played so conservatively throughout save for one trick play by Bama. I’d expect a much more open game.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:21 PM
I’d like to see USC play either one of these teams.
Arizona State can be heard heartily laughing at this.
Vontaze Burfict isn’t laughing. He doesn’t laugh. He does this instead.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:21 PM
I’m not for the wacky Wetzel 16-team nonsense that TBL supports, but I do have to point out that the BCS supporters keep changing their definitions for why things “work”.
I mean, when you bash Boise (or if you’re an SEC supporter, any non-SEC team) you always say it’s the resume that matters. You get what you’ve earned, and what you’ve earned is what you’ve accomplished this season.
Well, by that definition I don’t think Alabama has any clear right over several other teams.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:21 PM
My biggest problem with a rematch is that it does make the regular season a bit meaningless.
All the games are meaningless anyway.
/spins bow-tie
You all already rip into Walking Dead this morning? I thought last night’s episode was pretty good. Maybe its just because the weak Sophia plotline is over.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
That and they lost to a 6-5 team and have no wins to tout outside of Kansas State.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
The “Alabama gets bye and LSU plays” argument is only valid if people would vote Bama over LSU if the Tigers lose this weekend. Would that happen?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Modern-era USC has never had any problems with SEC teams. Probably why the SEC stop scheduling them
November 28th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
You all already rip into Walking Dead this morning? I thought last night’s episode was pretty good.
Save for the last 5 minutes, I thought the episode was terrible.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
So Texas will be 5th best (or is it 2nd worst)?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:23 PM
It was better than the last five episodes. However I’m still pissed the blond woman isn’t dead yet.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:23 PM
Just so we’re clear, if OSU loses to OU we’ve gone full swing from “this season proves the BCS causes chaos !!!!!eleven!!!” to “yeah, system works, shuttup homo.”
I laughed.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:23 PM
Why is OSU having the press conference at 5:15 instead of 6? 5 Star recruits don’t watch Around The Horn.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:24 PM
Dexter and Boardwalk Empire always have to come first. I’ll save TWD for tonight.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:24 PM
What I don’t get about the pro-playoff crowd, and there are a lot of them showing up on my facebook feed lately for some reason, is how they talk about how fraudulent the BCS is in the name of fairness, and then espouse a 16 team playoff as if ever, in the modern history of college football, there were 16 teams who could lay a fair claim to a national title.
It’s like when Boise went undefeated a few years ago (I think it was Boise) and one of their players was asked in the postgame if he thought they should be #1, and he said…no.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:24 PM
No, but if they are clearly better than Stanford, OSU based on their season…
I actually don’t know if I think a re-match is okay. I just hate the 6 weeks off thing that just destroys momentum and tends (?) to give crappy games.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:24 PM
That episode should have happened 2 or 3 weeks ago.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Well if Ok State beats OU, arent they the clear cut third?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Yeah it wasnt so much that it was a good episode, just that I’m hopeful for the 2nd half of the season. Get the fuck off the farm, someone shoot the blonde and the old guy, and move on.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
If VT and Okie State lose Saturday, is TBL going to pimp Stanford to all lengths?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
But it works so well in the NFL! NFL! NFL! NFL!
November 28th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Boardwalk Empire
I knew the butcher was about to fuck some shit up. Jimmy better watch his ass. He’s about to find himself completely alone.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
No. They lost to a team that might not finish with a winning record…
November 28th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
It only takes a minority to create the appearance of a vocal majority. Screw those SEC chest beaters. Plus, the only reason they’re saying that is because it’s uncouth to chant the South Will Rise Again.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
I think that’s something we cam all agree on.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
I’m pro-playoff, but not 16 teams. I’d prefer 8, think you could get away with 12, but I’d just be happy with a plus-one.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
LSU and Alabama are BY FAR BY FAR BY FAR the two best teams in college football, probably more so than at any point during the BCS era.
not a chance. they are both very good, but not they are not well rounded enough to have that label.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Hmmm, I think you missed the point. Most SEC fans don’t want to see LSU/Bama in the title game, because most SEC fans dislike both programs. But all SEC fans are quite aware that they both deserve to be there.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
If OKST beats OU (not really a given) I think they’ll have the best argument. You have to look at wins and losses for each team. What is OKST’s best win? What is their loss? Same for VT, Stanford and Boise. You can’t knock Bama not winning the SEC and ignore Boise not winning their league. Same goes for Stanford. If VT loses to Clemson you’ll only have OKST, but what if OKST loses? Houston’s schedule is pathetic. You have to punish them for playing no one worth a damn all year. Don’t blame the BCS for every other team losing. Someone has to play LSU after all.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
The BCS is supposed to pick the two best teams. So they got it right. Period. Move on. And I am scared to death to play Alabama again.
But I do suspect that if the NC consisted of some Ohio State/Michigan/Notre Dame/USC form of rematch, the media would be all for it–like they were in 2006. I guess rematches are bad because some guy in New York City didn’t like the lack of touchdowns in the first game.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Va Tech… Sorry, can’t keep a straight face typing that.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
More top 25 wins than Bama, or is this the part of the BCS strength-of-schedule debate where eventually everyone sucks other than SEC teams?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Shane has transformed from a moderately interesting morally ambiguous character into the almost unbelievable bad guy. And Dale needs to die. Hide the guns? WTF? Seems like a bad play in the Zombie Apocalypse.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
The thing that gets me, is that in all the years of the BCS, talking heads spend so much time all season talking about “doomsday” and “what-if” and “chaos”… yet somehow at the end of the year, there are usually two deserving teams which are fairly obvious, and then there’s everyone else.
If they make a +1 format, TBL and Duffy will just spend all year talking about which 5th-ranked team is going to get screwed.
Or if TBL really gets his way, we can discuss whether 7-3 Cincy, or 6-4 Florida deserves the 16th spot this year.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
And how the fuck do they have Sophia in the barn and not let Rick’s group know? You know Herschel wanted them gone asap, and the only thing holding them there was Sophia, and you never fucking mention, oh by the way, we have a little girl walker in that barn that you now know about! Someone’s gonna have to explain that one to me.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Arkansas didn’t even belong on the field with SC the two times they played them in the mid-2000′s.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
It was better than the last five episodes. However I’m still pissed the blond woman isn’t dead yet.
Andrea is the Kate from Lost of this show. Grating. Hopefully, she in a tire fire. No zombie afterlife for her.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
I haven’t seen it yet, but I have a suspicion that he kills Richard in last night’s episode based on the clip from the preview where he’s shooting, because it’s nearly identical to the shot where Richard kills the Dalessio brother who’s sitting on the ground.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
Think that was Utah, when they beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.
Then we heard “Well Bama wasnt really into the game because they lost the SEC title game to Florida”
November 28th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
sorry, typo.
/still frazzled from 9-6 eye raping
November 28th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
I dont want the old guy to die. I’m just waiting for Dale (unless thats the old guy you’re talking about, not Hershel) and Shortround to be shot/eaten. Sadly I think the blond last a while.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
I’m late to this thread, but could not agree with this more. You may not like it that the 2 best teams happen to play in the same conference and already played each other, but that’s too fucking bad. If the purpose of the BCS is to create a champtionship game between the 2 best teams, then LSU-Alabama is the only logical matchup.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
Not to make excuses or anything, but I wonnder if the Oklahoma State/Iowa State game turned out differently if it wasn’t played the day the team heard about the plane crash.
/and the refs called the FG good–which it was
November 28th, 2011 at 12:29 PM
I think the best way for that to work is to have the 4 BCS bowls be the first round of the playoffs. Keeps the current system intact, and the stadiums will be full (or should be).
November 28th, 2011 at 12:29 PM
No because Rick Neuheisel is going to postpone his dismissal until after his Rose Bowl victory! UCLA! UCLA!
November 28th, 2011 at 12:29 PM
I could see this. They will also get a bump from voters who don’t want a rematch (much like Florida did over idle Michigan)
November 28th, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Agreed. For some reason, everybody thinks all fans of SEC schools are SEC homers. Nothing could be further from the truth. I think the other 11 SEC schools were all rooting against Auburn last year, and vehemently so.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Haven’t seen TWD ending….but between Boardwalk and Dexter, there were several, “oh, fuck” moments last night.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Yeah Dale’s who I mean, I can never remember his name. I hate hate hate hate hate Dale.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:29 PM
But it works so well in the NFL! NFL! NFL! NFL!
It works pretty decently in the NFL (definitely not perfect though). But part of the reason for this is that the NFL has centralized scheduling. Teams can’t decide their schedule, they can only win the games on it. But I just don’t think a playoff works in college because 1) conferences are horribly uneven in terms of quality and 2) teams can decide just how hard or how easy their schedule is. But this latter aspect provides a way for teams–like TCU–to move up in the world. If you commit to building a good program and recruit accordingly, and play a good schedule, you can get to the BCS. The pathway is open, its just that some schools don’t want to commit the time and effort to working for it.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
All of this. You think I want Kirby Smart coming into Georgia pimping another ring? Fuck that noise. I’m LSU’s biggest fan if Bama gets another shot at them.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
I was gonna go with Shannon from LOST.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
It’s easy. Look at who the Big 12 teams have beaten out of conference. Then look at who the SEC teams have beaten out of conference. The Big 12 is propped by some sloppy schedules. Their best win as a conference is 9-2 TCU, followed by 7-5 FSU…
November 28th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Otis never got to tell Herschel. Otis used to wrangle the zombies into the barn. Oh and fuck Herschel anyways.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
And Dale needs to die. Hide the guns? WTF?
In the first season I thought Dale could be a really interesting character. After watching him try to hide guns in the river (or wherever he was going) I’m pretty sure he has early-onset Alzheimer’s. I’m not even sure the thought process on that. Plot holes and such.
Still thought it was the best show of the season. Not saying much, but at least the show will move forward. Also, zombie killing is fun.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
Hopefully that means she dies soon. Then Maggie can take her place.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:32 PM
I haven’t seen it yet, but I have a suspicion that he kills Richard in last night’s episode based on the clip from the preview where he’s shooting, because it’s nearly identical to the shot where Richard kills the Dalessio brother who’s sitting on the ground.
I won’t spoil anything, but let’s just say the butcher got his revenge on Jimmy. And I don’t think he’s finished yet either.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:32 PM
TWD has a serious problem with poignancy. What could have been a really good discussion about who is right for this world (Rick, Dale, Shane, etc.) fell completely flat. Like every other attempt.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
And Bama’s best win was Arkansas, who sucks. And Petrino sucks.
/seriously, fuck Petrino
November 28th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
Let’s avoid transitive relations of schedules in college football, please.
/we save this for March Madness
November 28th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
Nobody actively pulls for their SEC brethren in the title games that I know of. But you have to understand one thing. There is a certain amount of pride when you hear people telling you that the Big Ten and Big 12 are just as good as you and then you win 7 straight championships. It’s kinda an F.U. to all those people more than a “YAY US!”
November 28th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
This is what only a few people are talking about. Bama lost ground in the polls that matter and that was with them waxing Auburn and OKST not even playing. If OKST puts a big number on OU, I could see a voter revolt.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
Then look at who the SEC teams have beaten out of conference.
Alabama has beaten whom out of conference? At PSU? PSU was exposed for the frauds they were the last couple of weeks. LSU beat Oregon on a neutral field and a Big East team on the road. Better than Alabama, sure, but I’m not impressed.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:34 PM
I was gonna go with Shannon from LOST.
Better. More relevant.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:34 PM
COME ON BE HIS WIFE AND KID!
November 28th, 2011 at 12:35 PM
I know you’re just being you, but ARK is pretty good. They aren’t top-5 good, but they’re a solid top-15 team.
This is the perfect way of saying it. It’s not so much a cheer as it is a taunt.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:35 PM
remember when is the lowest form of covnversation…
tony soprano’d
November 28th, 2011 at 12:35 PM
Someone told me that was the whole point, that no one is right for that world, and it’ll take all of them working together to stay alive. Not sure I believe that, because this season has been a big pile of “meh”. Outside of Sophia being in the barn, I pretty much could tell what was going to happen next and I haven’t read the books.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:35 PM
Does nobody watch Hell on Wheels?
Boardwalk Empire >>>>>> Hell on Wheels>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Walking Dead
November 28th, 2011 at 12:35 PM
Like I said Friday, here’s a guy who quit on the Falcons during the season and told his players with a form letter complaining about Les Miles’s ethic. FUCK YOU SIDEWAYS, DICK.
By the way, people bitched at Miles for kneeling against Ole Miss, and now they’re bitching at him for a garbage FG against Arkansas. Well…which is it?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:36 PM
Agreed.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:36 PM
Unfortunately, I’m of the belief that if you
-can’t win your conference
-can’t win your division within your conference
-can’t score a TD at home against a division opponent
-allow 21 pts and 350 yds by an FCS opponent
then you deserve no more shots. You’ve been eliminated.
Pac 12 was eliminated by LSU beating Oregon
Big 10 was eliminated b/c thy’re the big 10
The ACC got thrashed by the SEC over the weekend.
The Big east just sucks.
I know of no hard comparison of sec vs big 12 games this season (other than Ark having to stage a crazy comeback to defeat a crap Texas A&M team) to take the big 12 out of the loop.
I’m not a big 12 fan. Give them a shot ..
It’s a NATIONAL Championship, not a neighborhood championship.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:36 PM
Shit is gonna go down in these last two episodes.
For those of you that have seen TWD “finale”, will it make me want to continue watching the 2nd half of the season? I’m almost ready to bail.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:36 PM
It’s kinda an F.U. to all those people more than a “YAY US!”
This is the perfect way of saying it. It’s not so much a cheer as it is a taunt.
But they act like their conference is being unfairly persecuted, when I don’t think anyone ever says they are anything other than the best football conference in the country. It’s like they have an unwarranted inferiority complex. Which is true because they’re Southern, but not because of the quality of football they play.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:36 PM
I wasn’t really paying attention. But how the hell did those zombies get stuck in that swamp? What was the explanation behind that?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
This would be great. I would look forward to hearing the incoherent babble coming from the state of Alabama if something like this would happen. How many more Harvey Updikes are out there?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
The SEC doesn’t have a ton of good OOC wins, but who does?
Oregon, WVU, PSU, GT, Clemson, TAMU…that’s about it, right?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
They walked into it.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
/uses quote from show back when to prove point now about remembering stuff from before is wrong to decide stuff now
//mind explosion.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
COME ON BE HIS WIFE AND KID!
Watch it tonight. What the butcher does is just one of several “oh shit” moments. Though his is probably the biggest.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
What I don’t get: If she got bitten by a walker, why didn’t the walker finish the job and eat her?
Isn’t the whole point of a walker’s existence to find and eat humans?
She looked surprisingly unscathed.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
Does nobody watch Hell on Wheels?
i do, and i like it. they need to kick up the action a bit, though.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
I do.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:39 PM
It runs so much deeper than football, dude. It’s silly as fuck (and racist to a degree) but it has a lot to do with the Civil War. The people down here cannot let go of that. So they use football as their weapon of choice to show off their strength. I’m not even kidding, by the way. It’s weird.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:39 PM
Another Boardwalk note: Margaret’s son is an asshole.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:39 PM
I would be in favor of this being a pre-requisite. It would put a whole lot more emphasis on the regular season as well. The only thing is, say Georgia beats LSU and OU beats OSU. Who plays for the title?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:39 PM
it’ll be all Houston, all the time.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:39 PM
That and ‘Boss’ got the Ders chop. Only Homeland made the new drama dvr schedule.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
Lines like this are why you’ll hear the chant more and more.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
What I don’t get: If she got bitten by a walker, why didn’t the walker finish the job and eat her?
You could say that about just about every walker… they seem to like devouring their victims, and yet there are also a ton of them walking around with only one bite. I guess they’re suggesting that the walkers are the ones who were bitten, but then escaped?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
Alabama’s kicker will only have one month to prepare for LSU.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
I won’t spoil anything, but let’s just say the butcher got his revenge on Jimmy. And I don’t think he’s finished yet either.
John Forsythe, legend.
/wraps cue ball in a napkin.
“anybody seen Richie?!?!”
November 28th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
it’ll be all Houston, all the time.
If TBL watched Houston play more than once this year (UCLA game perhaps?) then I’ll be shocked.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
Yeah, because the whole kid rape incident helped…
Are you fucking kidding me? That might be the hardest out of conference slate anyone has played in 20 years.
Add to it…South Carolina taking out Clemson. Georgia beating GT…
The Big 12′s resume literally reads…TCU; FSU; Iowa…
November 28th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
Really? You’d never know it.
/Looks at Arkansas state flag.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
Wasn’t Florida’s loss that year at home to an unranked Ole Miss squad that resulted in Tebow’s “famous” speech?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Michigan.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
you know what has to suck even more? back to back 6 win seasons in Texas when Arkansas has back to back 10 win seasons.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
How many more Harvey Updikes are out there?
More than you realize. Your comment is a bit frightful.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
\
There isn’t now, but there was in 2006. LSU won in 03 but everybody said USC was better. Auburn was locked out in 04 but it was okay because USC was better. Then they were on the verge of getting locked out in 06 because “It’s Ohio State and Michigan, of course. Two storied Big 10 programs!”
When LSU won in 07 it was gravy. By 08 when Florida won it was obvious. That’s when it stopped.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
LSU is in no matter what. Their resume is insane. Since every team has one loss (spare me Houston, people) they are still locked and loaded for the title game.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Lines like this are why you’ll hear the chant more and more.
Because anonymous internet guy troll’d on the South? Okay.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
/team urban renewal
November 28th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
Lines like this are why you’ll hear the chant more and more.
/looks at Georgia state flag
//looks at S. Carolina state flag
///watches pickup truck with 2 giant confederate flags mounted in the bed pull out of wal-mart
November 28th, 2011 at 12:43 PM
And how the fuck do they have Sophia in the barn and not let Rick’s group know?
What I don’t get: If she got bitten by a walker, why didn’t the walker finish the job and eat her?
Herchel probably found her and knew Grimes & Co. would kill her so he hid her in the barn to wait for the magical zombie cure.
I wondered the same about some of the not that bad messed up zombies. At what point does a zombie stop eating on a human? And why don’t zombies eat other zombies.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:43 PM
I’m going to. I don’t have HBO so I have to torrent it, it’s downloaded and waiting for me at home. Will catch up on the two newest Hell on Wheels as well.
So I’m thinking he’s going to set his sister on fire at some point. More dead Irish kids the better, though.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Right, but I was asking using with a hypothetical “have to win your conference” rule.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:43 PM
That was 2008 not 2006. In ’06 they lost to 11-2 AUB. Ole Miss was 9-4 the year they beat UF.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Bama would end up #1, LSU #2. And the rematch would still occur. The only whining you’d hear would be if LSU loses a player or players to injury.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:43 PM
5 weeks ago, Clemson was talking national championship. This weekend they lost to the 5th best SEC team without Garcia and Lattimore.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Oh they were.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:44 PM
t’s silly as fuck (and racist to a degree) but it has a lot to do with the Civil War. The people down here cannot let go of that.
Which is beyond dumb and deserves to be mocked.
/all I’m saying
November 28th, 2011 at 12:44 PM
Ahh…not sure. OKST if they beat OU and then Oregon I would guess. Maybe UGA slips in. Not real sure. That’s why having that rule would be terrible.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:44 PM
Why that fat zombie in the well didn’t eat the beef confused me.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:44 PM
//looks at S. Carolina state flag
?
Georgia’s old flag I get. But South Carolina’s is pretty innocuous.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
If the final BCS standings are released and Alabama is No. 2, Les Miles shouldn’t even bring his team to the title game. LSU has nothing to gain and everything to lose. He should say his boys are the national champs because they already beat their opponent at their house during the real season, and call it a season.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
Except for that whole National Title thing.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
YOU FORGET HOW BADLY THE SOUTH WAS FUCKED OVER AFTER THE WAR!! NOTHING CIVIL ABOUT IT, GOOD SIR.
/doesn’t care
November 28th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
I really would have enjoyed the prospect of going to the Cotton Bowl to curb stomp Texas. The Capital One Bowl is salvagable if we get to play MSU, I think that’d be a good game.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
So was Miami in 02
So was USC in 05
So was Ohio State in 07
So was Ohio State in 07
/team eye test
November 28th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
That’s fine, and I agree. I just find it hard to believe a kid would be one of the ones to escape.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
So I’m thinking he’s going to set his sister on fire at some point. More dead Irish kids the better, though.
I think he’s going to grow up to be a serial killer. Remember earlier in the season when he supposedly talked back to a nun at his school? Nucky’s solution was to tell him “don’t do it again” and then gave him a dollar and told him to go to the candy store.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Sophia disappeared before they met anyone from the farm, right? So they would have no idea who she was or what she looked like. Unless they showed them a picture, I guess.
Bama and LSU probably are the two best teams, but to me, it’s kinda boring to watch two teams who already played this season and play each other on a fairly regular basis play again (especially if it’s another FG fest). Part of the excitement of the bowls is watching teams that don’t play that often go head-to-head.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
LSU could lose this game and still win the national title.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
/fixed
November 28th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
if TBL even watched Houston once I’d be shocked. no Red Zone channel for college.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
Georgia’s old flag I get. But South Carolina’s is pretty innocuous.
my bad… i meant S. Carolina flying the confederate flag on the grounds of their capitol building. I have no idea what their state flag looks like now. (palm tree, I’m guessing?)
Also, Georgia got rid of their old flag, then got a new one that didn’t honor the confederacy, and then the last governor got elected because he said he’d change it back, so now it’s kind of a mix of both the new and old.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
This is Georgia’s new flag.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
This is like the Tea Party of the BCS backers.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
My guess is that Bama didn’t lose any ground, but rather Ok State gained it from Arkansas. Next week will be the tell-tale result, because any gain a 3rd place team makes has to be from the second place team (for the most part)
November 28th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
Is it your goal to continually prove yourself a moron? The SC state flag has nothing to do with the Confederacy.
Yes. But Ole Miss wound up in the Cotton Bowl that year, and kicked Texas Tech’s ass, and finished in the top 20. Iowa State will be in the lowest possible Big 12 bowl, and has zero chance of being ranked.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
I dont understand why Rick or someone else didnt tell Herschel about the CDC and the doctor showing them what happens to a person’s brain after they get bitten and get sick. They die, then something else in their brain turns on to reanimate them. Why on earth would Rick go along with corralling those walkers from the swamp??
November 28th, 2011 at 12:48 PM
I think the tide really turned after 41-14 in the ’06 title game. People forget but Florida’s offense was pretty unimpressive in SEC play that year. They didnt top 40 pts in any of their SEC games, and didnt beat any SEC opponent by more than 19.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:48 PM
What were we talking about again? Go aints!
/team NFL
November 28th, 2011 at 12:48 PM
It’s a mythical national title, not a national title. If Alabama were to beat LSU on a neutral field, LSU would still have the better win. Alabama would be illegitimate national champs. As fucked as CFB is, do we really need this type of nonsense?
If OSU beats OU, the Cowboys should play for the title. Better schedule, better wins, better conference.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Ole Miss team that ended the year ranked in the top 15…
November 28th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Was sitting in the Illinois section in the 02 Sugar Bowl vs. LSU
At 7-0 they were telling us “that’s okay.”
At 14-0 they were telling us “fuck you.”
At 21-0 they were telling us “at least we won the Civil War.”
/we’re not the only ones holding on to it
November 28th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Maybe dead things arent as yummy. They all loved the live chickens. Maybe they eat you until youre dead, then they dont like the taste anymore.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Is it your goal to continually prove yourself a moron?
Only as much as it is your goal to continually prove yourself to be a jackass.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
It’s sounding more and more like SC is Cap One bound, and Arky is headed to Cotton. And MSU has close to zero chance of going to Cap One. It’s either going to be Wisconsin or Nebraska.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:50 PM
The whole thing about Hershel is to show that even a man of science (even if it’s a vet) can get irrational when it comes to his emotions. If his wife and stepson weren’t bit, Hershel probably wouldn’t have kept them in a barn while he waited for a cure. But they were, and he didn’t want to let go.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:50 PM
my bad… i meant S. Carolina flying the confederate flag on the grounds of their capitol building. I have no idea what their state flag looks like now. (palm tree, I’m guessing?)
Gotcha. South Carolina’s state flag has a crescent moon and a Palmetto Tree. The reasoning behind it is pretty cool. Early in the American Revolution, a British Fleet tried to force it’s way into Charleston Harbor. The militia built Fort Moultrie near the harbor entrance to defend against the attack. The fort was built out of palmetto logs which were the most readily available. Palmetto is spongier than normal wood, so the British cannonballs just bounced off the sides of the fort. The British fleet then gave up and left. So South Carolina adopted the palmetto tree as their state symbol in remembrance.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:50 PM
So, their body of work is clearly the best…
November 28th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
If I was a voter and Alabama squeaked out a win, I’d still vote for LSU because winning in Alabama during the course of a regular season means a hell of a lot more than winning on a neutral field a month and a half after your last game.
BCS voters are obligated for vote for the winner of the MNC game as the BCS champs, but the AP isn’t.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
Bama’s pulling hard for VaTech this week. But honestly the last poll is completely different from the others. You will see teams jump other teams for no reason other than to create the 1 vs. 2 matchup. If OSU beats OU impressively, i could see them jumping idle Stanford, as well as VT even if VT wins (VT’s schedule is a joke and is too far down in the computers to even threaten for #3).
November 28th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
Hey he wasn’t fat he was just retaining water asshole!
November 28th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
Ouch. Serve some other inaccuracy up for us, please.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
if TBL even watched Houston once I’d be shocked. no Red Zone channel for college.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_Goal_Line
November 28th, 2011 at 12:52 PM
people still give a shit about flags?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:52 PM
And? Every team would have one loss except Houston and their HS schedule.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:52 PM
We both eked out wins over the Ags. I’d have no problem playing the Hogs, who haven’t done shit since moving to the SEC.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:52 PM
What Jerry wants, Jerry gets
/Arkansas-Texas
//or Oklahoma
November 28th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
people still give a shit about flags?
Only Southern idiots clinging to the past.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
Trey think UGA is getting the Cap One. I’ll be pissed if UGA gets dumped to the Outback Bowl to face MSU for the second time in 5 years.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
Yes, how dare people care about their heritage.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
Gotcha. South Carolina’s state flag has a crescent moon and a Palmetto Tree. The reasoning behind it is pretty cool. Early in the American
History lesson from the whiner!
November 28th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
I’d have no problem playing the Hogs, who haven’t done shit since moving to the SEC.
aggie thinks highly of this “shit” and hopes to get to that point when they move
November 28th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
Also, I don’t agree with the idea that a CFB playoff is trying to make it like the NFL or CBB. CFB is the only major/popluar sport I can think of that settles its championship this way. All pro sports have a playoff, as do college soccer, hockey, basketball, baseball, and lower division football. CFB is the abberation.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
people still give a shit about flags?
Yes, but I’m also a nerd for stuff like that.
/as witnessed in comment 217.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Would the Cap One pass on ARK? If so, surely ARK goes to the Cotton. That means SC and UGA will be in the two Florida bowls.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
How is that scenario any more ridiculous than Alabama winning a national title by beating a team it already lost to at home?
IMO, the best Alabama can hope for in the MNC is a split title. That would be all they deserve, and frankly, that’s still a bridge too far for me.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Only Southern idiots clinging to the past.
or northern idiots with nothing to do?
November 28th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Only Southern idiots clinging to the past.
If you reside in Georgia, I think I’d be careful about using the phrase “southern idiots”. Some people, the type that drink Budweiser and keep unlicensed and unmarked handguns on them at all times, might not like it.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Ouch. Serve some other inaccuracy up for us, please.
The inaccuracy I clarified before you jumped in with your snark? Sorry I’m not entirely up to date with the state flag of S. Carolina.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
They voted on contingencies last nite. Georgia is in the mix if they play LSU close. All signs seem to indicate that Arky is out.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Except that some of the flags were deliberately changed during the Civil Rights era to give the finger to those northerners who wanted their black people to go to school with them.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Probably best to throw out the SS uniform now grandpa.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
You know who else has crescents on flags? Muslim nations. OH SHIT SOUTH CAROLINA IS A TERRORIST.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
What Jerry wants, Jerry gets
Except for another Super Bowl win, apparently.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
well, fuck me sideways! I had no idea college had a red zone-like channel. Houston scores a lot, so I guarantee TBL’s seen at least 10 minutes of them.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
Dirigo, bitches!
November 28th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
The nerve of those Northerners
November 28th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
Wait, what? I’m not saying you’re wrong, just never heard of this.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:57 PM
You know, cause a playoff solves this problem…
November 28th, 2011 at 12:57 PM
I FUCKIN’ KNEW IT.
/sends drone to south carolina
November 28th, 2011 at 12:57 PM
He who wins the BCS title gets the crystal ball, therefore he who wins it is the champion. Split titles no longer exist in my opinion.
I think UGA will play them close, actually. LSU’s offense doesn’t match up well at all with UGA. I just don’t see how UGA scores enough. I also think the special teams advantage for LSU is going to give them 7 points or more.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:57 PM
I hope college football does get a playoff but it only includes the big boy conferences, so that idiots like TBL can have a new complaint about the playoffs not being good enough.
/ Why doesn’t the Sun Belt Champ get in!
// fuck those little schools
November 28th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
/sends drone to south carolina
You think they’d let Stephen Garcia back on the team?
/low hanging fruit
//not even sure that makes sense
November 28th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT, BITCH!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
/fires guns
//peppers ATL’s tailgate with buckshot
November 28th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Oklahoma would be fine, but I’m not really trying to play a shitty Texas team. Don’t really want K-State either
November 28th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
Yateszzeeeee.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
Btw here’s what’s on the line for LSU this week. Keeping an undefeated season alive. Winning their 4th SEC title this century (more than anyone else). Beating Georgia, the only team in the SEC to have a winning record vs. Les Miles. A chance for one of the great seasons in modern CFB history. And they’ll be preseason #1 next year with a much easier schedule.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
Which is why we need to bring back the old system. To hell with Joe Casual Fan.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:00 PM
LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT, BITCH!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
/fires guns
//peppers ATL’s tailgate with buckshot
Meh, Atlanta’s about as Southern as Dallas or Houston. Yankees taking it over again and such. I love the South and Southern hospitality. It’s the confederate worship that has me shaking my head.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:00 PM
Probably best to throw out the SS uniform now grandpa.
saw a pretty good documentary on Vidkun Quisling on the Military Channel. Guy was pretty fucking delusional.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:00 PM
YET ANOTHER FAILURE OF ESPN
November 28th, 2011 at 1:00 PM
Georgia put the Confederate flag back in in 1955.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:00 PM
There’s a difference between earning a rematch by clawing your way past other deserving opponents in a playoff system, and being placed there by biased coaches and ADs who want to maximize ratings, money, and exposure.
The way CFB is currently constructed, there cannot be a rematch in a national title game because there would be no actual champion crowned.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:00 PM
Yeah…ok. The difference is Texas A&M was the best team you beat.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:01 PM
Still remember the last time these two teams played for the title. Beatdown City, baby!!
November 28th, 2011 at 1:01 PM
Georgia put the Confederate flag back in in 1955.
Really Georgia? 7 flags since 1879? Make up your goddamn mind.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:02 PM
Georgia put the Confederate flag back in in 1955.
Sort of similar to the United States putting “in God we trust” on money during the McCarthy era and yet people give credit to the “christian” founding fathers.
/ben franklin just slept with another french prostitute
November 28th, 2011 at 1:02 PM
yeah, but you have a bunch of holes in your tailgate now.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:02 PM
/ben franklin just slept with another french prostitute
//Thomas Jefferson’s corpse just impregnated another slave
November 28th, 2011 at 1:02 PM
but it has a lot to do with the Civil War. The people down here cannot let go of that.
So is Boise St. General Ulysses S. Grant
November 28th, 2011 at 1:03 PM
Wow, thanks. Never knew that. I never really studied/cared about flags but that’s interesting.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:04 PM
Yup…that’s why those idiots who bitched about “heritage” were so fun to argue with during the flag debate a decade ago.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
They really had 8
November 28th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
More uncalled for: Georgia having 7 flags since 1869, or Georgia having 2 NHL teams since 1972?
November 28th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
yeah, but you have a bunch of holes in your tailgate now.
/fixes them with a mix of chewing tobacco and duck tape
//spits
November 28th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
Going to be interesting to watch the perception of aTm change as soon as they become an SEC team and their players immediately become faster.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
*DUCT
wow.
/swigs coffee
November 28th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
Wow, thanks. Never knew that. I never really studied/cared about flags but that’s interesting.
Well now don’t you wish you had?
Worst state flag? New Mexico. Woof.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
ATL have you heard about this town, recreated German style? My cousin went there for Oktoberfest and had a blast!
November 28th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
You see the new GA license plate MS? Terrible.
/fellow license plate nerd
November 28th, 2011 at 1:07 PM
More uncalled for: Georgia having 7 flags since 1869, or Georgia having 2 NHL teams since 1972?
Going to go with 2 NHL teams since 1972.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:07 PM
lol at hyping up beating hobbled ass Sakerlina.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:07 PM
ATL have you heard about this town, recreated German style? My cousin went there for Oktoberfest and had a blast!
Yeah, I’ve also heard good things. Probably have to head up there and check it out one of these weekends.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:08 PM
You see the new GA license plate MS? Terrible.
Nope, but they can’t be any worse than Texas’s new plates.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:09 PM
Nope, but they can’t be any worse than Texas’s new plates.
Oh, They’ll give them a run for their money…
November 28th, 2011 at 1:09 PM
So, Lemme get this straight…Because Alabama lost to the number one undefeated team in the country…managed to win all their games before and after that…while others lost to teams that aren’t the number one team in the country, and don’t have the supporting wins that Alabama has from the computers and subjective POV…they haven’t earned a rematch by clawing past other deserving opponents?
Why have a regular seasont hen. We should just make all sport seasons a playoff…
(Checks construction)
The BCS puts the #1 and #2 team in the country based upon an agreed upon system by 11 FBS conferences to crown national champion.
Pretty much kills that argument.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:09 PM
///Washington’s wooden teeth continued to be freaky
November 28th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
your spelling of duct tape requires me to call bullshit on your claim to having a chaw in.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
Do you how long it took the SEC to accept SC and ARK? People in the SEC will want to thrash A&M and Mizzou at every turn as a form a hazing.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
Oh, They’ll give them a run for their money…
The peach on the bottom right looks more like a pumpkin. Which is still somewhat festive I guess.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:11 PM
Agreed. Smells like beans.
/raycesse’d
November 28th, 2011 at 1:12 PM
One of the coolest non-state flags ever? The “Come and Take It” flag from the Texas Revolution.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:12 PM
LOL harder at losing to Missouri by 2 TD’s
November 28th, 2011 at 1:13 PM
yeah, but you have a bunch of holes in your tailgate now.
They’re called speed holes and they make the car go faster.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:13 PM
Wikipedia states that this was the flag of Nevada from 1905-1991. It’s so ridiculous looking that I find it difficult to believe.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:13 PM
*if you don’t mind bubble screens, which I don’t.
If you run that play down south, isn’t it really a “bubba screen”? Well?
November 28th, 2011 at 1:14 PM
ohmygodsocool
November 28th, 2011 at 1:14 PM
I don’t know about the hazing part, but I really fucking hate it that the SEC added TAMU and Missouri.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:14 PM
/strokes chin
//looks around
///sees GA and TX, and raises a smiling fucking sun
November 28th, 2011 at 1:15 PM
///sees GA and TX, and raises a smiling fucking sun
Those will always be #1.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:16 PM
What are those? Arkansas, Penn State and Auburn?
November 28th, 2011 at 1:16 PM
http://www.coolpl8z.com/top-100-best-vanity-license-plate-ideas.php
November 28th, 2011 at 1:18 PM
Missouri doesn’t make any sense to me. It’ll be nice to have a more natural rival in aTm for Arkansas though, so I’m cool with that
November 28th, 2011 at 1:18 PM
Bama’s best “win” was taking LSU to overtime.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:19 PM
You and me both. 12 was the perfect number.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:20 PM
So who else would take Bama over LSU in the rematch? I know I would.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
I kind of like it, better than NH where I grew up.
Which lead me to this list.
To each, his own, I guess.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:30 PM
Bama’s best “win” was taking LSU to overtime.
while i don’t think Bama should get another shot at LSU, it’s the only matchup where LSU stands a chance at losing. so if everyone is ok with watching OK St, VaTech, Stanford, Boise, or Houston get throttled in the NC game, then let’s do it.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:36 PM
I want OK State, but I’m going to get Bama. Thus I will root for OK State and LSU to both win by 30 in their bowl games, so it never happens again.
November 28th, 2011 at 1:39 PM
As an LSU fan, i want Bama. I believe Les Miles’ damn strong team will have a want to prove that the Nov 5 game was not a fluke. I dont think the motivation would be as high given a different opponent, though I agree the chance for victory would be higher.
November 28th, 2011 at 2:13 PM
Was that the year Michigan got chocked out by OSU…and then OSU got destroyed by Florida? If so….SEC teams should have had a legit beef about a rematch. Why should TWO teams that can’t competed with and SEC team get a title game
November 28th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
You’re not very smart, are you?
November 28th, 2011 at 3:26 PM
who cares
November 28th, 2011 at 3:38 PM
what year am I thinking of? Wasn’t there a year where Michigan (fags) was unbeaten and played OSU…both unbeaten…Michigan got manhandled by a much better Buckeyes team…then OSU got destroyed in the BCS game??
Memory is foggy.
and anyone with a Bengals helmet can’t afford to question someone’s smarts
“)
November 28th, 2011 at 4:04 PM
It’s amazing how Alabama supporters have managed to change the narrative so that a “good loss” is perceived to be more important than “quality wins.”
Alabama has one quality win — Arkansas. Arkansas has beat exactly one ranked team — South Carolina — which in turn beat only one ranked team — Georgia — which in turn beat no ranked teams. See how this SEC bias thing works?
OSU has better wins, a better schedule, and plays in a better conference. If they beat OU, they will have won their conference and finished with the same number of losses as Alabama. Now, in what world is Alabama more deserving, especially considering they already lost to the title game’s other participant!
If the situation was reversed and Alabama was in OSU’s shoes, they’d be pulling the gray uniforms out of the closet.